Razor Two

[Fire]

This mission seems to be buggy

After some time I get a message that Lobotev is leaving the country and that I have 20 minutes left to catch him.

But then immediately the mission ends....

Why didn't I get a chance to catch that guy?

And where is the fourth peace of evidence? I got a card in the castle ruins, dogtags in the mine and photos in one camp.

[Lee82UK]

The opposite happens for me. I get the radio call that he is leaving and I have 20 minutes to get to shakholka to stop him. I've looked there, looked everywhere in Golka, Polana and all other roads/villages nearby and cannot find him anywhere. I was told I only had 20 minutes, I've waited for 6 hours and nothing has happened, I'm unable to progress any further :(
I also have LOTS of random crashes during the 2nd half of this mission (Razor two)

[FraG_AU]

I am getting a lot of CTD bugs in this missoin now.

I have done this mission 3 times, one time I got the 20 min warning but nothing came of it.. just kept on searching couldn't find him.. 3rd attempt I did all missions backwards, and got the 20min warning after searching 2 "X' locations, the power station and was on my way to stolnichya (sp?) when I got the message.. Right after starforce came to pick me up it said he got away and then missions stats followed by CTD...

Frustrating, as I like these open ended missions but these CTD are more and more common as I get further into the game.

Anyone actually found/caught the guy ? Or is the script randomly stuffing up?

[Raptor]

Yes there are many versions how to end this mission.

Basicly after the meeting with dressler you should drive to the farm under Vishnoyebut the problem is if you catch Mr.B the mission ends, sometimes and you didn't get the points.

But this is no guarntee to catch him, other users found him on other places so you must watch to a driving car, somtimes it's a Skoda but mostly a the red Golf.

[kiwi1234]

Hi there all

Can someone please post a guide for this mission?

I have been everywhere and ant find a thing - where am i supposed to find this guy?

And how do i use the UAV? is the control terminal located in the base with Dressler, or where you start the mission?

Thanks all - this is very frustrasting, ive been stuck on this mission for hours!

[EricM]

Here's how it went for me, I played it multiple times using different tactics but it always ended differently :
- I got Bardak and mission ended with a victory
- I got the "Lopotev is feeling north you have 20min" and immediatly after a FAIL
- I got the "Lopotev is feeling north you have 20min" and nothing happend...

I never found "Akula" Lopotev though... Is it possible to even get Him... ?

Some spoilers down here of what I found :

- 1 Piece of evidence in castle near Vishnoye
- 1 piece of evidence in the north camp
- Barak can be found by asking the locals and the NAPA guy, he's in the quarry.

[thepiespy]

i actually found bardak in one of the three camps dressler marks, he started running so i shot him in the leg which apparently killed him and ended the mission (in success)

[ArmaFreak]

I've found Bardak twice at a T-junction between Golka and Shakolka, I waited for him (after the 20 minute call) and he arrived both times in a red VW Golf, problem is I blew up the car both times trying to stop him and of course failed the mission.

[MuthaF]

I also get the warning about him leaving ara in 20 minutes, which (somehow) expired in cca 1 minute, so of course i didn't catch him.
But in next few missions campaign takes it in account, already has info about Lopotove being co-worker of that crazy blonde russian SpetsNaz guy, so im almost sure i will get my chance to take revenge soon :)

[SnakePliskin]

Have played this mission for more then 10 hours now...Frustrating

First i go to Drecsler, then the intel guy, then i drive me and my team to first(closest cross), then second, then third, clear the erea, find the evidence, but then nothing happens...i got alot of crashes, and had to restart a couple of times. Also got then "Lopotev is fleeing north in 20 mins", but cant find him.
I was also at the ruins and got the evidence from there..
Were are the two last pices of evidence?

Could anyone tell how they did this one?

[MuthaF]

Really, just re-read this thread, than talk to civilians, its the easiest way. Also, realize, that not all objectives are neccessary for mission to end mission successfully. So to save yourself further frustation maybe you only do the minimum.
...Although, 1.02 patch is supposed to be out on Friday ;)

[SnakePliskin]

After a long day on this mission i finaly made it to Manhatten :) Gonna stop now to let the 1.02 patch do its magic.

I actualy found Bardak in the quarry near the cost. Dont put to much stock in it though, from the other posts it seems he spawns at diffrent locations.

[EricM]

There are multiple ways to play and end this mission.

The good part is that you can play it again multiple times to see what else you could have done.

The bad part is that the more complexe and open ended the mission, the more it can get buggy at times when various triggers get in conflict (same for Manhattan, while simple SP missions are usually flawless).

[giantsfan24]

Yeah, the changelog shows tat the campaign gets some bugs fixed in 1.02. I like that it's kind of like an rpg in that you choose where to go next but if you are going to get stuck, it's kind of ruins it. Me personally went from Dressler, to the CDF guy in the camp, to the NAPA guy, helped him defend his village, he told me to checkout the power plant, I land back at base, get the 20 minute message, the 5 seconds later the mission ends.

[Nemesis_wales]

i cant even get it to run. in 1st part, go to lil camp, spoke to the officers. called in heli then it all went black an white and a million lil dots all over screen. ended task an dit wa sall over my desk top. so rebooted, installing nvida tools to change fan speed but i ran it for 20 mins in mp with my m8 getting perfect 30 fps very smooth

[muttly]

hi all can any 1 tell me how i use the chopper service please for instance at start mission i want to use the helicopter to transport us to the base we all mount and he says welcome to taxi service or some thing but then how do i get him to move us all to where i want to go


cheers:bounce3:

[bonchie]

Where exactly is the quarry?

[doford]

If you speak to the locals they will give you different places to go look at.

Evidence i've found.

Map next to a tent in the castle (vyoshnoye - near farm)
Dog tags from a killed soldier at the quary (solnichniy - east coast)
Photos at northern red X camp On table - It was BUGGED for me, stuck inside table, so i had to throw a nade in to move it.

I've read on a forum there was another piece in a cave. Anyone know where that is or perhaps he's talking about the quary. Or what was that about ruins?

I've compltely this misson once and found bardak driving to vyoshnoye, past the castle.

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hi all can any 1 tell me how i use the chopper service please for instance at start mission i want to use the helicopter to transport us to the base we all mount and he says welcome to taxi service or some thing but then how do i get him to move us all to where i want to go


cheers:bounce3:

Open your map, press space / click communications / transport / click on map where you want to go.

[ChevyVanDude]

What happens at a location near Visneya? I was under fire.

[bonchie]

What happens at a location near Visneya? I was under fire.

In the castle on the hill to the east theres evidence. Other then that I found nothing there but a few snipers to take out.

I ended up just going to the Quarry to end the mission after much searching.

[MrPing1000]

I can't do this mission, do the 2 guys even exist?

I've found 3/4 evidence been to the quarry, and everywhere else mentioned. Found bugger all, bah.

[Velaska]

I have found Bardak in Solnichniy, in a chalet on the left of the railway. Just kill a couple of enemies and arrest him.
Never found the other guy :((

[bonchie]

Has anyone gotten Lopetev? If so how?

I got Bardak in the Quarry and it ended the mission. The rest of the campaign the dialogue speaks as if Lopetev is still free.

Are you even supposed to actually find him?

[giantsfan24]

I will say this and I know it sounds weird. Play the mission in the editor. For some reason, alot of the bugs in the campaign have not to do with the mission itself but with the way the "campaign program" within arma 2 reads them. Only thing is, when you start getting choices later in the campaign, you need to know which version of the mission to play to continue the story. I do know this though, you are apparently not supposed to find Lopotev in this mission.

[[C4]Draeger[OwP]]

Does this mission have "trigger point" bugs of some sort?.

Because I have done pretty much that everyone has suggested to do and I'm still driving round the countryside on a sightseeing tour. :(

I have had no "Lopotev is fleeing you have 20 mins etc" message yet.

I'm wondering if I'm going to have to completely restart from the very beginning again. Noooooooo!!!!!. :eek:

[kizersan]

hey im gettin stuck on this too i go to the quarry and i kill all the dudes there and the guy sais no ones her ?? wot u just shot someone !!!
then he goes on saying no vehicles no one then i just give up is there like a particular time?
also i defend the village for the russian guy whose a partisan (cant remember his name) and he tells me to go to the power plant which is the power plant is it the large pipe things on the map if it is then i went there and lo and behold no ones there :mad:
i get the message saying lopotov is making a run for it so i head to the first place only an empty red hatchback so i call in air and head to the other place and get shot down immediately ?? is it just me
also.. (sorry) it says in support im supposed to have an apc where is my apc ?? and the uav how do i get that
alot of questions i know sorry :/
cheers in advance

[Deadfast]

No matter what I did the mission ended up with me supposedly killing him even though I never found him.

Once I did actually find him,
in the Nothern stronghold,
but there was no option to arrest him.

[Lt_Darkman]

I also killed the 3 enemies in the Quarry, but couldn't find the dogtags.

I'm finding this mission very frustrating. If I'd wanted to fly around Cherno I would have loaded up the editor.

P

[MrPing1000]

Yeah this mission is now officially driving me loopy.

I have found 3/4 evidence, no idea where the last 1 is. Found the following.
Dog Tags in Quarry
Map in the Castle in the west.
Photos in the most north red X camp.

I have found nobody of consequence, neither leb or his mate.

I can manage to visit all the mentioned places by 12pm which gives me a few mins before the 20minute warning, Leb seems to not exactly exist.

[Lt_Darkman]

Did you have to select 'Gear' next to the bodies, or do the dog tags show up when you get close as a menu option like the map case?

Or did you not get the message that nobody was there after you'd shot the Chedaki?

P

[Deadfast]

Did you have to select 'Gear' next to the bodies, or do the dog tags show up when you get close as a menu option like the map case?

The dogtags are hard as hell to find.

In fact every time I had to use the a little cheat of telling my squaddie to aim on them and then scan the area in the command view...

[MrPing1000]

The dogtags are hard as hell to find.

In fact every time I had to use the a little cheat of telling my squaddie to aim on them and then scan the area in the command view...

They seem to always fall off the chedaki soldier wearing the balaclava at the quarry. If you have terrain detail on low they are easy to spot. Try hiding his body if u can't see them.

[Urbanski]

OK i've had real problems here.

I have started this mission a few times now - been playing it for ages.

I had the message "Lopotev is heading for Russian border.....20 mins to catch him" and then the mission ended with a fail.

This time around I supposedly found Bardak in the ruins, except i didn't find him, there was just a message to say task complete, so i get the evidence, take out the north camp, get the evidence there and head to Stolnye and nobody will talk to me.

On previous plays Olgech talks to you and the town defence starts, but i get nothing, I checked out the south eastern camp and none of the soliders will talk either when before I had a chat with them.

I really can't be bothered to start this mission again - its a real pain, I started off thinking how cool it was to have to operate like a real recon team but now I just want to progress.......from these forums it seems the next missions are even more bugged :(

I like what the devs are trying to do but i'm afraid their engine is not robust enough to handle open ended /complex missions and this trigger failure/conflict bug happened extensively in both previous games. I have played some awesome and complex community made missions in Arma so it is possible to do.

[MrPing1000]

I will say this and I know it sounds weird. Play the mission in the editor. For some reason, alot of the bugs in the campaign have not to do with the mission itself but with the way the "campaign program" within arma 2 reads them. Only thing is, when you start getting choices later in the campaign, you need to know which version of the mission to play to continue the story. I do know this though, you are apparently not supposed to find Lopotev in this mission.


How do u play missions in the editor? Oh figured it out, extract it from the .pbo and plonk it in the user maps folder in my documents.

See if I can understand how this works and figure out where the 4th evidence is :p

[Westmoreland]

I found no bardak, no lopotev, only three X and quarry visited, and mission ended with fail soon after 20 min. limit ended. epic fail.

and no one wanted to talk to me, the villagers only said that they know nothing.. :(

This missions really need some guide - step by step what to do, otherwise it's nearly impossible to complete..

[MrPing1000]

OK!

I had a look through the map in the editor and theres a few things that need to be stated to help everyone out.

1. Lopotev CANNOT be captured. He doesn't even exist.
2. Bardak CAN be captured OR killed. Bardak spawns in a blue rusty car just south of Pusta. He then DRIVES to one of the key areas that you visit during the mission. Quarry/Castle/Power Plant/Northern red x marked camp. One attempt I found his car at the north red camp but couldn't find him, another he was standing in the quarry. Dunno if he gets back in and drives off, but regardless it's going to take him a while to get to any of these locations. To capture him you must chase him around until you get close lol.
3. There are only THREE items of evidence in the map, the fourth IS Bardak. (capturing him is the 4th)

The mission ends when;
Lopotev escapes (this cannot be prevented)
Bardak is killed.
Bardak is captured.

Tbh I suggest the tasks are rewritten to insinuate that capturing either of them would be useful because it really isn't obvious that Lopotev simply isn't in the level.

[Malleus]

There are only THREE items of evidence in the map despite the tasks listing 4. Not sure why this is, I presume it's a map bug but if anyone finds a 4th let us know.

I think you 'get' one evidence when you capture Bardak. When I did the mission, I only got the dogtags and the photos, but when the mission ended (with capturing Bardak) I had 3/4 evidence.

[MrPing1000]

I think you 'get' one evidence when you capture Bardak. When I did the mission, I only got the dogtags and the photos, but when the mission ended (with capturing Bardak) I had 3/4 evidence.

Ah I'll try that.

*edit* You are correct sir, updated previous post.

[EricM]

Thanks for the info.

I finished the mission on my own, but I was always wondering if there was a way to actually catch lopotev...

I caught bardak in the quarrry after reading the intel, being to the power plant and asking the locals.

[Lt_Darkman]

Thanks for putting us out of our misery MrPing & Deadfast.

I'll give it another try now ;)

P

[Malleus]

Ah I'll try that.

*edit* You are correct sir, updated previous post.

The weird thing is, that the actionCollectEvidence.sqf lists four evidences


_evidPool = ;

and the mission.fsm states that you get one (a different one) when you capture Bardak


class end__1
{
name = "end__1";
init = /*%FSM<STATEINIT""">*/"[B]BIS_evid_Bardak call BIS_fnc_addEvidence;" \n "" \n "_nic = [objNull, objNull, rENDMISSION, ""END1""] call RE;"/*%FSM</STATEINIT""">*/;
precondition = /*%FSM<STATEPRECONDITION""">*/""/*%FSM</STATEPRECONDITION""">*/;
class Links
{
};
};

So, uh ... I don't know. :) If there are three evidence pieces on the map, I guess that the fourth was deleted in testing, but the reference was left in the evidence file.

[Lt_Darkman]

Started the mission again. Went straight to UAV and spotted rusty blue car driving to Power Plant. Bardak (I presume) got out.

Aha I thought, I know where he is. So I went and got the other evidence before returning to the Power Plant to kill/capture him and end the mission.

He wasn't there. WTF?

This mission is more annoying than a BSOD, and where did Maddox get his wings, he can't fly to save his (or my) life.

edit: found Bardak and completed the mission properly. Click on the spoiler button if you want to know where to head him off.

Grid ref: 092075. If you get the hurry up message this is a good place to ambush Bardak when he arrives in the red hatchback as he has to slow down to negotiate the turn. Step in front of the car, shoot one of the tyres and he gets out. Catch him and mission over.

P

[doford]

Finished this mission today on elite.

Got the 3 piece of evidence at the quarry, castle and camp then went back to the quarry and found bardak. Normally he come up as *commander* but this time he was called *insurgent* and I got the 4th piece of evidence after capturing him.

[Westmoreland]

I tried this mission again, with nearly the same result as before - I went to 1st X, 2nd X, staroye, visnoye farm and ruin and a quarry, and soon after the mission ended, with Bardak and Lopotev still free. I wonder if is it possible to delay "catch lopotev" mission somehow, I'm always as quick as possible, but without success.

[MrPing1000]

I tried this mission again, with nearly the same result as before - I went to 1st X, 2nd X, staroye, visnoye farm and ruin and a quarry, and soon after the mission ended, with Bardak and Lopotev still free. I wonder if is it possible to delay "catch lopotev" mission somehow, I'm always as quick as possible, but without success.

If you exclusively use the transport helicopter you should have loads of time.

[yanarinu0104]

To capture lopotev ... i use my brdm-2 ... and just bump him till he fall and then there is a conversation from lopotev that he's surrender ... and you will get a pickup transport ...

[ampeg]

Got lucky with this mission on my last attempt. Drove straight to the power station with no sign of either suspect then called in heli transport to the Quarry. Killed three or four guys at the quarry then one of my squad said that there was noone there. Next thing I know Cooper is shouting at Bardak to freeze and calling in a transport to get rid of him and the mission is successfully completed with only one objective fulfilled :confused:.

[lampuiho]

To capture lopotev ... i use my brdm-2 ... and just bump him till he fall and then there is a conversation from lopotev that he's surrender ... and you will get a pickup transport ...

huh? Where did you find him?

[GunRage]

Bardak has a piece of evidence on him, when he’s captured, it show’s the new evidence, I have no idea what it is, mission end.

[BlackAlpha]

This took me a freaking long time to figure out but I finally finished the mission with all 4 evidence pieces in my possession.

First I went to the castle south of Vyshnoye. Then to the quarry at Solnichniy. Finally I went to the most northern camp on top of the hill north of Guglovo. At each place I got 1 piece of evidence, so that's a total of three pieces that you can actually pick up.

If you can't find the evidence, you can try to let the AI teammates pick it up. Get to the place where the evidence is. Press F2 (to select an AI), press 6 (actions menu) and see if the evidence is in there. Another trick is to press F2, press 2 (target menu) and tell the AI to target the piece of evidence. Look where he's aiming at, then press F2 (to select the AI) and move the mouse over the area ("scan" with your mouse) that he's aiming at, eventually the evidence will pop up in your hud.

The fourth and final piece of evidence you will receive after handing Bardak over to some sadistic CIA guys, which will make him talk. But first you will, of course, have to capture him.

Once you got the three pieces of evidence you can do multiple things to try to find Bardak. Go to the castle south of Vyshnoye. Go to the Quarry at Solnichniy. Go to the power station just north east of Elektrozavodsk. Go to one of the marked camps. He might be at even more places, though.

Thing is that it's randomized where he'll be, so it's probably easier to catch him when he's driving towards the north. Around 12:13 I got the message that the other guy was fleeing to the north. I caught Bardak driving a red car on the road leading into the Black Forrest just north of Shakhovka. He was there less then a minute after I got the message that tells you about the 20 minute thing. I'm not sure if he always spawns there and always takes that route, though. I shot out one of his tires and ran after him. Once I got close enough, a special cinematic started to play in which I heroically captured him.

So, I caught him, which gave me the 4th piece of evidence and finished the mission successfully. Hope this helps.

[worstmoderationever]

This is one of the worst missions. It starts out fun but it's so buggy that it can be impossible to find the guy. It's also extremely CPU heavy for some reason. In the armory, I can actually fly planes around and increase the view distance to 10,000! It is nice and smooth. But with the exact same settings, I barely got 25fps on this mission.

It pretends to have a 'plot' and a proper progression, but it doesn't really. The three locations that get marked on your map, the one nearest always seems to be just friendly troops, the one in the middle always seems to be empty, and the other one has guys there. Apparently the bad guy can be there sometimes but I never found him there the 7 times I did that mission.

After that, you get a report of some resistance fighters needing your help. If you help them they tell you that the bad guy might be found at the power station in the south. If you go there you can apparently find him (don't listen to the guy at the gate, he lies). I never found him there though. The trail runs cold at that point though, and if you follow the guy at the gate's advice, you go on a wild goose chase that leads you nowhere.

Eventually you will get a message that the guy is spotted heading north. The message is always from the same town and he is always heading to the same town. My first attempt, I simply didn't make it in time because I was in the middle of nowhere when I got the message and I called the chopper and it just didn't come to me for some reason so the mission failed. (Although you can continue if you want to). The next 5 or 6 times I tried this mission, the same message would come in, but I would then have the chopper ready and I would scour all the roads and fields where the guy is heading, but I would never find him, and yet the mission would not end. I think the guy had simply vanished out of the game or something, because I searched like a military operation and on one attempt, I spent 5 hours in one sitting, travelling both on foot and by air to sweep the entire area. There was no sign of him.

On the 7th attempt at this mission, I bumped in to his second in command. He tried to run me over so I shot him. If you can capture him, do that, not that there seems to be any point to achieving objectives...

[THEBLITZ6794]

1. so can lopetev be found

2. wut does finding the evidence do (im also wondering this for other missions like manhatten)

[Max Power]

I eventually completed the mission successfully with a desperation move. I noticed that quite a bit into the last 20 mins, I had an option to tell my squad to 'get in hatchback'. I told them to get in, and they ran several kilometers from Gorka to just outside of Stary Sobor. I found that the hatchback had stopped to let my squad in. They got in, and he drove away, so I told the squad to disembark. He stopped again to let them out, allowing me to shoot his wheels.

Very strange game, somtimes.

[Snafu]

I attempted this mission a few times so I can get all the evidence then capture Bardak. Every time I have done this and went to a location for evidence Bardak was there meaning I had to retry it.

This time that didn't happen. I went to the quarry first, then the Castle then the Northern most X. Got all pieces of evidence but no Bardak! I also checked the power plant but he wasn't there either.

Where is that bugger?

We know he can go to:

- Quarry
- Power Plant
- Castle
- Northern most X

And now Stary Sobor, is that actually one of the places? Or a bug, Max Power?

I have tried to get to Stary Sobor by chopper but on the first run one of my guys took a hit and then the second time it was by Ural from Vishnoye, where I got shot the minute I exited the truck at the crossroads between Vishnoye and Sobor. Are there just troops there?

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Ha! Got the booger in Gorka in a red VW after the 20min message appeared. God knows where he came from.

[Protocol]

Ive tried the mission a few times. So I restarted the mission, and this time it took me 20 minutes to complete. When the mission started I jumped in a humvee and drove to get the intelligence. Lt Mary(sp??) told me to go and see a freedom fighter who needed help defending his town. So I drove my humvee to that location, helped him defend his town, in which the man told me that you should look right under your nose, he said head back to the factory where the FOB is. I hopped back in the humvee, headed back south, and pulled into the factory are, and as I disembarked I saw a man running to a pickup truck and got in. I wasnt sure if it was him, so I shot at the truck until he got out, and as he got out we opened up on him. Killed him and the screen faded black, I was thinking I failed the mission due to killing some civilian. Sure enough it was Bardak, and ended up getting the victory. He literally was right under our noses. But this game seems like it doesn't play out the same for everyone. So maybe i just got lucky and had good timing.

[Adzy28394]

I have tried this mission 8 times, and I have never finsihed it without having done the ENDMISSION cheat

1)Go to Dressler
2)Go to CDF guy
3)Go to Staroye
4)Go to power plant - Bardak has been here ONCE, but then never found lopetov
5)Go to camps, find nothing
6)Go to Solnichny and kill chedaki, but no evidence there

I can never find Lopetov and found Bardak ONCE, then did ENDMISSION
Also I can never get evidence from anywhere for some reason:16_6_8:

[Protocol]

I dont think lopetov can be found though?

[skooma]

I went to Staroye to help Olegich and Bardak just drove down the road right past me as I was going over to the fighting to the west :p. I shot out his tyres as he was leaving town, and chased him around in Benny Hill style. I shot him the legs but he still wouldn't surrender so I went off to heal my heavy gunner who got in my way as I was disabling the car and the bastard crawled off somewhere. I run around looking for him and he just surrenders in the middle of the road. Mission over.

[THEBLITZ6794]

I went to Staroye to help Olegich and Bardak just drove down the road right past me as I was going over to the fighting to the west :p. I shot out his tyres as he was leaving town, and chased him around in Benny Hill style. I shot him the legs but he still wouldn't surrender so I went off to heal my heavy gunner who got in my way as I was disabling the car and the bastard crawled off somewhere. I run around looking for him and he just surrenders in the middle of the road. Mission over.

i shot bardak and killed all his huards. he crawled for about a minute with my team and me all around him. then he surrendered.

i like ambiet combat.

[EricM]

Lopotev cannot be found, it's a red herring / lure. Find Bardak and you're done.

Lopotev is to be captured later in another mission.

[Jimmy the Saint]

I have played the mission the first time today, but since I failed badly I was not sure if I am doing it right though. So I had a look here and I probably was just too slow to finish the mission successfully. All the time when I was flying around Chernarus gathering informations I got this interesting message of a "unknown car" near the choppers position although I was never able to spot it with my eyes (information from the officals was that Lopotev is using a blue car and Bardak a red hatchback). Now, when I got the message that Lopotev is leaving the country through the border of Gorka in about 20 minutes I took an old sedan and drove the road up north from Solnichny. While driving through some villages north I passed several dead villagers on the side of the street. But at the end I was not able to catch anyone of those two terrorists. And as I have read here, Lopotev cannot be catched anyway.

a small hint:
You might be careful in the woods, there are some amoured infantry patrols. One for example is moving nearby the old castle where you encounter the hiding marines.

[TechnoTerrorist303]

To capture lopotev ... i use my brdm-2 ... and just bump him till he fall and then there is a conversation from lopotev that he's surrender ... and you will get a pickup transport ...

You're clearly lying. STFU and GTFO.

[Blackhawk]

Going to have another crack at this mission, probably my favourite in the game.

I'll post here how I find him.

EDIT, Found him at the Quarry.

[Mudkip]

Woot! I managed to get all evidence thingys and capture Bardark! Yay!

Here's my walkthrough...
1. Go to the castle south of Vyshnoye and get the maps.
2. Go to the northernmost marked camp and get the photos.
3. Go to the quarry near Solnichniy and get the dog tags.
4. Go to Gorka and wait for the 20 minute warning, Bardark should be heading north in a red Volkswagen Golf look-alike.

[Jimmy the Saint]

This might be something interesting to think about:

The CDF official at the base at the beginning will tell you that there are informations of a suspicous blue car driving north and later in the mission you will recieve a message from your HQ that a red hatchback is driving towards Gorka trying to leave the country in twenty minutes and therefore it becomes the ultimate target. Now when you visit several crucial recon places, especially Maleks farm, you might notice an old sedan painted blue and red. Could this be one of the terrorists? Maybe it is a lead to Lopotev, who, as we all know, cannot be catched (yet). I also noticed that Malek could be Bardak himself, because once I noticed him driving away from his farm as soon as I came back from the castle with the evidence. Of course I shot his car, so he jumped out and tried to run away. But I got close enough to catch him. However the sequence afterwards looked strange and it ended the mission with -400 points for me without letting me knowwhy. Anyway the cognizance seems to be obvious. One information hints to a blue car while the second leads to a red car. And at Maleks farm I have seen this old sedan painted in blue and red. So my conclusion so far is. Malek could be one of the two traitors. But in the case of the mission design, he probably is Bardak.

[Mudkip]

Malek's farm? What's that? Where is it?

Also... I questioned some civilians in Vyshnoye and they all said something about Pepa and a water pump? Where was it? I never found him so I just skipped it...

[Blackhawk]

Well you can't arrest Malek, but boy he was a stubborn old bastard, I had to threaten to kill him, then he told me to F**k off. :D

[Trapper]

Lol, after all these many rampage reports I've to write down my pleasant game. :yay:

I've took all the time of the world to visit Dressler and Marny then drove back and flew towards Vishney. My LZ was south of the old castle so I found the map evidence already on my way to the village and that journey became redundant.
When I flew to the camps in the NE I set my LZ on a road in a forest. The chopper almost crashed then eventually returned to base. One minute late a car approached on the road and stopped 50m in front because I was standing on the road. I've approached the police car and didn't even notice I've just stumbled over Bardak until my character started talking. I shot the tire when he drove off, and tried to arrest him but he pulled a gun.

[Jimmy the Saint]

Malek's farm? What's that? Where is it?

Also... I questioned some civilians in Vyshnoye and they all said something about Pepa and a water pump? Where was it? I never found him so I just skipped it...

Pepa and the well can be found at the town center. There are also other villagers who might give you informations.


Well you can't arrest Malek, but boy he was a stubborn old bastard, I had to threaten to kill him, then he told me to F**k off. :D

Well, you cannot take Malek into custody because all you know is, that he is the stubborn farmer Malek and not Bardak or whoever. Play nice with Malek and he might give you some informations. ;)

[Sgt Mack]

Hi all. Here's my Razor Two mission walkthrough. It's about all you can do after having done it several times, I found this out and it's a fairly thorough walkthrough with driving directions included! It definitely helps to do manual saves after each step as if you blow it you only have to reload from the previous one. But sometimes the game glitches; especially at the quarry, and you might have to start over anyways, as I had to do. Hope it helps and enjoy!

After the briefing with the Captain, grab the HumV with the .50 cal on top (I put Rodriguez as gunner; and left him there through most of the mission. It surely helps to have him there!) and head to Elektrozavodsk to speak with Cpt Dressler. He will have you speak with the CDF liason officer; who is standing in front of a BMP across the compound from Dressler.

Next head to the castle by Vyshnoye by taking the main coast road back up towards Chernogorsk. Take the road north off the coast road; there is a gas station nearby across the street, that's how you'll know you've got the right road. It leads to Pusta. When you arrive in Pusta take the left and follow that around to the curved intersection that it dead ends into just south of Mogilevka. Head on in to Mogilevka and take the road through town and then taking the next left. The dirt road will continue west out of town towards Vyshnoye. Take the next left, stop alongside the road a short ways and disembark the HumV. Head on up the hill past the house and on towards the castle. It's quite visible on the map. Inside the ruins courtyard you'll find a small tent around back and a table. Take the evidence and you have 1/4 evidence.

Take your team back to the HumV and get in. Reverse directions and head back to Mogilevka; this time go north out of town and take the first left (dirt road. Take the next right, then a quick left and follow the windy two-track north until it dead ends. Keep going straight (off-road) and on up the hill until you get contacts. You can elect to keep your gunner in the HumV to engage the insurgents in the camp on Hill 446 or get everyone out to engage them. Once they're dealt with, search the tent, you'll find your next piece of evidence on a table; that's 2/4! Now several times I did this the insurgents were split up and waiting at the foot of the hill where you came from; which is where you need to go. If it's clear just head back to the road you crossed; and take it left (south). Your next stop is Staroye.

Stay on the main road through Guglovo and in to Staroye. Don't run over your NAPA contact! lol You'll be in radio contact with him as you get close, and once you get out (disembarking your team; you'll need them for the firefight coming up!) and you're close to him he'll talk with you directly. He's the guy (gamekeeper) with the hunting rifle and cap. He'll be in a bit of a panic as Insurgents are about to attack the town. Follow him back in to town and up the road to the left towards the milking shed. There other NAPA (townsfolk) have gathered to defend Staroye. You don't get much time to set up before insurgents attack. Deal with them. They may be split into several teams or one big attack. I've had it happen both ways. Once dealt with (all must be dead; check your map for stragglers and chase them down) head back to the NAPA leader and he'll give you your next place to check for the insurgent leaders; right under your nose, the Electrical Plant in Elektrozavodsk!

Get back in the HumV and follow the main road south out of Staroye. Stay on that until it hits a T-intersection and turn left. Follow that past the dam and you will see a tall smokestack. That's the power plant. Drive up to the main gate and get out. You can leave your team in the HumV for now. Talk to the gatekeeper (you'll be outside) and he'll reluctantly let you in. Now I've had Bardak be here in a shed behind the power plant; he may or may not be there. He will try to get away if he is there. Once in a bus, once in a white car. Shoot the tires out if he's making a getaway! If he is there and you chase him down (don't kill him!) you'll get an arrest cutscene and your mission may be over. However, you did not get all 4 pieces of evidence, not to worry too badly. I failed at this point, so don't know if it does end. If it does not end, continue on to the final piece of evidence; and obviously if he's not there, head to the final piece of evidence; which the gatekeeper gave you. See Franta in Solnichniy!

Take the road on into Elektrozavodsk and take the next left (coast road) and follow that all the way up to Solnichniy. It's quite a drive, like 10 minutes real time. I never found this Franta guy but he is there somewhere. I just headed into town and took the main road leading west. Right after crossing the tracks take the next left and that short road leads into the quarry. Your gunner should despatch the three insurgents no problem! Several times I did this quarry fight it was bugged. One of the insurgents (of course the one with the evidence [dog tags] was on the side of the hill and I couldn't get to his body to get them! Grrrr had to start all over after trying several reloads, it just kept getting bugged) has the evidence you need 3/4 down!

The hunt for Bardak begins when you get a message from HQ that Lopotev is making a run for it. He's been spotted in a red hatchback heading north from Shakovka! You only have about 20 mins to catch him as he's driving from Shakovka to Gorka along the first dirt road that leads off the paved road out of Shakovka and heads north directly to Gorka. You're probably alot farther away, but no worries. He's driving like an old person (very slow!) and you should be able to get to Gorka before he does. Check your map (quickly now!) and take the shortest route to Gorka! Ok on your map there are three dirt roads that lead south out of Gorka. It's important VERY important you get the right one, it's the middle one! Now race south to a good ambush spot and wait for him to come puttering by. Shoot his tires out! When the car stops, stop firing (probably a good idea to have your team be not engaged (cease fire)) and you be the one doing the shooting. You've come a long ways and not a good idea to screw it up now! Chase his butt down if you're too far away, don't kill him. If you're a good shot you could nick him in the leg and slow him down, but just run after him, he'll give up sooner or later. Just don't let him get away!

Cutscene: You order him to the ground, he wont, you shoot him in the leg as he tries to make a break, he now is on the ground! You call in a pickup and mission is over!

[Rekrul]

Here's a faster walkthru for you. :)

When you start, load your men into the chopper. If you don't know where the north camp is, speak to Dressler and have him mark it on the map.
Fly to Vyshnoye, land SW of the y-cross just south in town where there's an open field. Upon landing you will be attacked by a single gunman. You can take him out with the minigun.

Run to the middle of town and talk to the guy by the fountain/waterpump. He'll tell you about Malek in the farm S of town and roughly W of the castle. If you see a blue civil Ural in the Y-crossing, use that. It will sometime help.

Go to Malek in his farm. On the first choice press 2 (Please cooperate) and then 1 (Want to go to jail?). He will say that they were in the castle but has probably left now. Run up to the castle. Halfway to the castle - SAVE! Check the castle, he's rarely inside but he IS around. I've played this like 20 times and he is ALWAYS there, but you need to talk to both guys (fountain guy and Malek). Coop might say something about smelling smoke and so on upon entering the castle area. On the bench next to the tent right next to the castle, you'll find some evidence. This is 1/4. Search the nearby area. Bardak always has one bodyguard (sniper) sometimes two. Don't worry, sometimes it will take up to 4-5 minutes before you find the sniper (or Bardak) who is always on the move (walking, unless he has seen you) but always passing the castle. When you kill the sniper, run towards where he was coming from if you don't see Bardak. Now comes the tricky part. When approaching Bardak you want Coop to yell don't move or I'll shoot and have Bardak freeze. 4/5 times he'll run (and Coop will yell Bastard!) and you have to load, but this time you'll know the approx area he's in at least. When Bardak freezes - SAVE! and backtrack, do NOT approach him so he's arrested.

If you want to collect all the evidence, read on - if not, just approach him, arrest him and the mission is over.

Mark Bardak on the map (he doesn't have a marker on the map and Razor won't report seeing him unless he's unknown) and run back to the LZ and call in Starforce 21. Fly to the Quarry and kill the men there. Search the guy with balaklava/ski mask. You should get an option saying "Take dogtags". If not, select one in Razor by pressing e.g. F2 - 6 and take dog tags. This is evidence 2/4.

Find a suitable LZ and call in Starforce 21. SAVE!

OPTIONAL: Go back to the base where you started and send the UAV to the northern camp and take out armor in the surrounding area/towns for a closer landing.

Fly to the northern camp and find a suitable LZ. If you did not use the UAV it has to be about 0.5-1km S of the camp across the road and between the towns on either side in order to not be shot down.

Take out the team in the northern camp. I prefer to attack from the south, withdraw back to a tiny forrest and take them out across the field. In the forrest you're easily out flanked. You can also use StarForces minigun on approach. In the tent in the northern camp, you'll find some photos which is evidence 3/4. Call in StarForce 21 and land on the old LZ SW of Vyshnoye. Run to the marker on the map where Bardak is and arrest him. He is evidence 4/4 and you have a complete success.

* If the chopper hovers midair due to shooting (and threat is over), open map, hit 0-8-1 and click on the original LZ to land

* Sometimes Bardak's car is on the foot of the hill, sometimes it just explodes. If it does he is most likely to run to the Ural you stole.

* Sometimes when searching the area, Bardak manages to sneak back to the castle and jumps into the car and tries to drive off (which he never manages). When this happens, just load as you won't manage to get him to freeze now.

[Da Bomb]

Here's a faster walkthru for you. :)

When you start, load your men into the chopper. If you don't know where the north camp is, speak to Dressler and have him mark it on the map.
Fly to Vyshnoye, land SW of the y-cross just south in town where there's an open field. Upon landing you will be attacked by a single gunman. You can take him out with the minigun.

Run to the middle of town and talk to the guy by the fountain/waterpump. He'll tell you about Malek in the farm S of town and roughly W of the castle. If you see a blue civil Ural in the Y-crossing, use that. It will sometime help.

Go to Malek in his farm. On the first choice press 2 (Please cooperate) and then 1 (Want to go to jail?). He will say that they were in the castle but has probably left now. Run up to the castle. Halfway to the castle - SAVE! Check the castle, he's rarely inside but he IS around. I've played this like 20 times and he is ALWAYS there, but you need to talk to both guys (fountain guy and Malek). Coop might say something about smelling smoke and so on upon entering the castle area. On the bench next to the tent right next to the castle, you'll find some evidence. This is 1/4. Search the nearby area. Bardak always has one bodyguard (sniper) sometimes two. Don't worry, sometimes it will take up to 4-5 minutes before you find the sniper (or Bardak) who is always on the move (walking, unless he has seen you) but always passing the castle. When you kill the sniper, run towards where he was coming from if you don't see Bardak. Now comes the tricky part. When approaching Bardak you want Coop to yell don't move or I'll shoot and have Bardak freeze. 4/5 times he'll run (and Coop will yell Bastard!) and you have to load, but this time you'll know the approx area he's in at least. When Bardak freezes - SAVE! and backtrack, do NOT approach him so he's arrested.

If you want to collect all the evidence, read on - if not, just approach him, arrest him and the mission is over.

Mark Bardak on the map (he doesn't have a marker on the map and Razor won't report seeing him unless he's unknown) and run back to the LZ and call in Starforce 21. Fly to the Quarry and kill the men there. Search the guy with balaklava/ski mask. You should get an option saying "Take dogtags". If not, select one in Razor by pressing e.g. F2 - 6 and take dog tags. This is evidence 2/4.

Find a suitable LZ and call in Starforce 21. SAVE!

OPTIONAL: Go back to the base where you started and send the UAV to the northern camp and take out armor in the surrounding area/towns for a closer landing.

Fly to the northern camp and find a suitable LZ. If you did not use the UAV it has to be about 0.5-1km S of the camp across the road and between the towns on either side in order to not be shot down.

Take out the team in the northern camp. I prefer to attack from the south, withdraw back to a tiny forrest and take them out across the field. In the forrest you're easily out flanked. You can also use StarForces minigun on approach. In the tent in the northern camp, you'll find some photos which is evidence 3/4. Call in StarForce 21 and land on the old LZ SW of Vyshnoye. Run to the marker on the map where Bardak is and arrest him. He is evidence 4/4 and you have a complete success.

* If the chopper hovers midair due to shooting (and threat is over), open map, hit 0-8-1 and click on the original LZ to land

* Sometimes Bardak's car is on the foot of the hill, sometimes it just explodes. If it does he is most likely to run to the Ural you stole.

* Sometimes when searching the area, Bardak manages to sneak back to the castle and jumps into the car and tries to drive off (which he never manages). When this happens, just load as you won't manage to get him to freeze now.

It's no good. Bardak doesn't always go to the Vyshnoye castle first.

[Rekrul]

Well I claim he does. :)

As I said, you have to talk to fountain guy and Malek first, then you have to search the area. I've played it a ton of times i.e. atleast 20 times to test this theory and it always hold water but I've never caught him inside the castle though. My theory is that you have several successful approaches to catch him as long as you things in a certain order. Meaning if you follow another certain set of actions he will always be e.g. in the quarry.

[br@cob]

I have found him in the general area of the castle, on the road near Malek's farm, but never in the castle itself.

[Da Bomb]

Well I claim he does. :)

As I said, you have to talk to fountain guy and Malek first, then you have to search the area. I've played it a ton of times i.e. atleast 20 times to test this theory and it always hold water but I've never caught him inside the castle though. My theory is that you have several successful approaches to catch him as long as you things in a certain order. Meaning if you follow another certain set of actions he will always be e.g. in the quarry.

You may have played it 20 times over (A lie) but even so, many othes have claimed that he shows up in different places.

[Rekrul]

So you're saying that it's a lie that I've tested this 20 odd times? If you actually read my walkthrough you'll see that he'll run 4/5 times. Since he didn't do that the first time I usually didn't save before approaching him when I replayed it. That was a couple of times. Then I had to load a couple of times when he ran. A few times I accidentally arrested him (ending the mission, killing the saves), and then some verification runs (since you can capture Bardak in >5 minutes from mission start).

Also, I'm not saying that he appears other places, I'm saying if you follow my walkthrough he will be there. Just try it (and remember that you have to search the area so don't go more 100m away from castle. You could even try watching from the castle roof).

[Kramxel]

With so many saves, you're definitely not playing on Veteran....

[Airborne_hk]

After uncountable retries, and see everyone's suggestion here, still no luck at all! However, in the last two attempts, I "accidentally" found Badark and finally finished this mission in only 10 mins!

In the first attempt, after gathered intels from Dressler and Marny, I drove my HMMWV to the electric plant and talked to gatekeeper. Then I went to the backyard of the plant and called for the helo to pick us up to the quarry. Meanwhile, I suddenly spotted a blue old car driving away. I though it must be Badark so I shot at it but failed to score a hit. As a result I restart the mission. This time after talked to the gatekeeper I ran directly to the backyard and successful captured Badark!

I'm not sure if there is the fix Badark starting point. I'll confirm it later.

[Jimmy the Saint]

With so many saves, you're definitely not playing on Veteran....

Sure you can, just keep copying your actual profile/saved folder to a different directory or adjust the options in the difficulty setup. Helps everytime when you get stuck at any part of the mission. :nener:

[SAbre4809]

Delete.

[Rekrul]

With so many saves, you're definitely not playing on Veteran....Nope, normal cause I suck. :) Actually the only save you need is just after talking to Malek.

[CrazyAviator]

To capture lopotev ... i use my brdm-2 ... and just bump him till he fall and then there is a conversation from lopotev that he's surrender ... and you will get a pickup transport ...

You can capture Lopotev? Can this be confirmed?

[Jimmy the Saint]

You CANNOT capture Lopotev. He's a "red herring".

[br@cob]

Correct, it is not possible to capture Lobotov during the Razor Two mission. What to know when you can? You will get your chance in Dogs of War

[Kramxel]

Nope, normal cause I suck. :) Actually the only save you need is just after talking to Malek.

I suck too....

But I'm trying to grind it out on Vet....

I like having no wayponts, map markers and such...

[S-M]

I had my game delivered yesterday so i spent an enjoyable few hours getting up to this mission yesterday.

When starting, i spoke to the two officers, got the 3 map markers and set off in the chopper to the first, unfortuantly the spacker pilot then crashed into some trees after we disembarked, so he is now gone!

The nearest X on the map was some marines doing a patrol, spoke to them and then started walking towards the next closest X

I stumbled upon an enemy patrol in the forest and they wiped me out, just as i was dyeing the game froze, this was the first glitch i had seen so far, i then reloaded the game after ctrl+alt+delete and shutting it down.

Restart and i spoke to the marines, then went off towards the nearest X, this time i stuck closer to the road to try and avoid the enemy patrol, i managed to get towards the cross roads, the game then froze, and i had to ctrl+alt+del to shut it down.

This confused me, the same glitch twice>?

I then turned down all the graphics settings to normal, restarted it yet again, and it froze just as i was fighting the enemy patrol :(

My system is a q6700 quad @<hidden> 3.30ghz, with a gtx275 graphics card, so i am doubtful that the system is at fault, but i don't know what to do now? :(

Do you think i should just restart the mission from scratch, and do things in a different order just so i can continue ?

As it stands i am stuck with a broken campaign that i cant seam to get past, is there any penalty for using this "endmission" cheat thing?

[S-M]

Hmm i restarted the mission, going to the furthest one first, and working back toward the marines, done all 3, found 1 bit of evidence, never saw any car, although one was spotted while we were in the chopper, looks like i will need to use a walkthrough :D

[-Shifty-]

I can't find him anywhere!

The first time I went to Dressler, then to Marny, then to Olegich, then to the electric factory and searched it. After searching it I proceeded to the closest camp and I found a USMC Force Recon team there and they had cleared the camp. Then I was too low on time anyway so I restarted.

The second time I took the HMMWV M2 .50 again (like the first time) and went to Dressler and the intelligence guys. After raping the crap out of the Chedaki with Olegich (It litterally only lasted 60 seconds tops, good old "Ma Deuce") and then went with Star Force 21 to the castle near the village Vys-whatever. After I found some info in the castle and questioned a local (Makel or whatever) I went to the northern most camp, nobody was there then star force 21 got shot down leaving (we had no resistance going in) so I restarted right before we landed to clear the camp and went to the 2nd camp in the middle. But nobody was there. I searched every camp and NOTHING!

[Rekrul]

I assume you have read at least one of the walkthroughs here?

[-Shifty-]

Yes :o

Oh and I wrote that up very quick while I was in the mission, so sorry for it being so crappy and it sounded like a 12 year old's post :lol:

But I generally don't read through 80-90 posts. I'm checking but it's annoying scrolling down and looking for a large piece of text and having to keep hitting "Show Spoiler".

[edit] Oh and where are the dog tags in the quarry? I looked everywhere, then even assigned a guy to get them. So he stops over this body (there's only 3 guys in the quarry, I killed em all with one M203 round :D) and I go there and try to pick it up but it's not there!

[Rekrul]

Well mine works every time for me, but apparently not for everyone:
http://forums.bistudio.com/showpost.php?p=1382576&postcount=71

As for the dog tags, if your teammate has them - that's good enough. The guy with the balaclava has them and it's on the ground and a olivegreen square. His body is sometimes over it though.

[-Shifty-]

K well guys I had a question.

See the thing is, in the first mission I didn't save the guy hostage, he was accidently killed by an enemy grenade, so no mass grave. Also I skipped Razor 2 (shift and - then type endmission) and it said I didn't capture Borak.

Things seems to be going downhill, and now in Manhattan I revieled the weapons cache, but I feel like a jerk because the priest needs them. I'm just acting as I would as a real Marine, I go by the book.

But can the campaign change? I'm thinking maybe I should start over and be better with the civilians to help them more and maybe get a better rep. Does anybody know all the possible outcomes? And what I should do?

[Jakerod]

K well guys I had a question.

See the thing is, in the first mission I didn't save the guy hostage, he was accidently killed by an enemy grenade, so no mass grave. Also I skipped Razor 2 (shift and - then type endmission) and it said I didn't capture Borak.

Things seems to be going downhill, and now in Manhattan I revieled the weapons cache, but I feel like a jerk because the priest needs them. I'm just acting as I would as a real Marine, I go by the book.

But can the campaign change? I'm thinking maybe I should start over and be better with the civilians to help them more and maybe get a better rep. Does anybody know all the possible outcomes? And what I should do?

I know many of the possible outcomes but I am not sure what leads up to all of them.

I played it the way I thought was morally right. I initially turned in the cache too but then I had saved right before hand and went back about 10 seconds after my decision and undid it (which in my book is technically cheating).

[Atrocious]

Of course it all has some influence on the rest of the campaign. It's just the question if you can live with 'wrong' decisions and how the campaign evolves or if you ignore it.
I decided to ignore any more things that go wrong, as long as the mission is successful.

I'd suggest you play the campaign again after it has been fixed (even more) and then do it all right. :)

Either way you should get the Prizrak hotfix before you play "Badlands". With patch 1.03 and without the hotfix you will have another important choice in the game ruined (because he is immortal and you can't decide to kill him, even though that was supposed to be the point of the objective).

[comrade_mato]

Hey, I just got one question. Is it possible to rearm in razor two mission? my machinegunner went out of ammo and i can't find any place with proper ammunition.

thanks

[tom3kb]

@<hidden>
Mayby in the camp where you start the mission or rearm him with pkm or rpk/rpd from dead chdkz

[Banderas]

It might be just for me, but with the latest patch (not beta) this mission doesn't play the cutscene when you capture Bardak. The task of capturing Bardak gets fulfilled, but it just doesn't play the damn cutscene....

[Hanzu]

I just completed Razor Two mission last week with 1.59.79600 (beta). There is no real cutscene there. Bardak just runs few meters, lifts his hands up, then rolls in the ground like wounded (even though you didn't fire at him). Meanwhile there is dialog between Cooper and Bardak and also between Cooper and Swordsman 1. I have screenshots if you want to compare to what happened to you.

What kind of cutscene there was eariler for you?