Single Player Performance Issues. [Archive] - Bohemia Interactive Forums

joethe33

May 30 2009, 01:12

Doing the Chernogorsk campaign.

AMD Phenom 9950 2.6GHz (OCed to 3.1Ghz) Black Edition
MSI K9A2 CF-F V2 ATX AMD Motherboard
CORSAIR 4GB DDR2 1066
PNY GeForce GTX 260

According to Fraps, I'm getting less than 20 FPS at all times. I'm only using Fraps in the backround to display my FPS, it does not effect my frames if Fraps is off.

Same for any range of settings.

edit. running at 1680x1050

garack666

May 30 2009, 07:36

ony max 26 frames here:

http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?t=73153

Jorge.PT

May 30 2009, 11:29

joethe33

Jun 1 2009, 23:02

Still seems to load slow. As well as textures. The textures take awhile to load. I sort of also think it seems like the map is a separate entity. It takes a second to load back in. Which I could understand because of how much data is displayed on the map, but honestly my computer isn't that bad. I don't have a Phenom II or anything (Latest and absolute greatest) but I run any DX10 game fine. Crysis is even some-what playable on the highest possible settings, etc. Of course I don't use those settings because its like 10ish FPS.

My theory is it's some code or something that's causing the lack in performance. Right now I'm on the Manhattan campaign, I'm getting around 30 FPS out in the open. Some-what high settings. Same resolution as the original post, Fill Rate at 100%, I've tried anywhere between 80-100%, I usually hover it around there. Obvious reasons. View distance is at 1600. It also seems like at any range of settings or the highest resolution, there's not much of a difference. It's sub 20 in Urban Environments. Which include the villages.

ThePainkiller

Jun 1 2009, 23:36

This game is a performance killer, even with a 4890 or 285 it lacks sometimes. They have to clean the code alot to make it playable.

garack666

Jun 2 2009, 01:10

This game is a performance killer, even with a 4890 or 285 it lacks sometimes. They have to clean the code alot to make it playable.

yep^^

SNKMAN

Jun 2 2009, 01:13

C2D 6600
Corsair XMS DDR 800 2048 MB RAM
8800 GTX

Windows XP SP3

Settings all HIGH

50 - 60 FPS

Sometimes less is more. ;)

mr.g-c

Jun 2 2009, 01:17

After Reading all those numerous Reports about performance, i think its like usually that XP is running the Game up to 25% faster than Vista.

I had the same impression as i moved from XP to Vista over 1 Year ago and Arma suddenly ran 20% slower and a other game too.

joethe33

Jun 2 2009, 04:15

I'm using Windows 7, and I've tried it with the dual boot of XP sp3. XP does not show a huge improvement.

easty

Jun 2 2009, 05:27

Resolution -- 1920x1200
Visibility --- 3000
Fill Rate --- 200
Texture --- Normal
Vid Mem --- V.high
Anisotropic --- Normal
Terrain --- High
Objects --- High
Shadow --- Normal
Postproces --- Low

Vista plays aweful on mine, Win 7 RC seems pretty great so far.

ohara

Jun 2 2009, 08:20

Try to set fill rate on 100 and vid mem just to normal, vid very high can fullfill your bus, filrate 200 means that final resolutiob is in your case 3840*2400

mr.g-c

Jun 2 2009, 10:57

I'm using Windows 7, and I've tried it with the dual boot of XP sp3. XP does not show a huge improvement.
This is now Wonder, Windows7 i said to be as fast for programs/games as XP was (again).
Damn it i will screw Vista as soon as Win7 gets out finally.

mr71mb0

Jun 2 2009, 11:48

Could be a driver issue?

I expect BI will get it patched and nvidia & ati will release some driver updates.

In urban environments Upping the detail doesn't seem to slow the fps down any for me.

I'll get fraps on to measure my fps.

Thr0tt

Jun 2 2009, 19:12

We need one of those benchmarking runs like the Arma Mark thing from Arma 1.

garack666

Jun 2 2009, 22:18

Try to set fill rate on 100 and vid mem just to normal, vid very high can fullfill your bus, filrate 200 means that final resolutiob is in your case 3840*2400

wich bus? what is a bus? i have a 1gb 4870, should i set to high?

Steinfisch

Jun 2 2009, 22:53

Doing the Chernogorsk campaign.

...According to Fraps, I'm getting less than 20 FPS at all times. I'm only using Fraps in the backround to display my FPS, it does not effect my frames if Fraps is off....
edit. running at 1680x1050

Fraps is not an accurate method of measuring the FPS. It hooks into IDirect3DDevice9::Present and adds some extra code, even if no recording is done.

I'm generally wondering how they draw hundred of objects, calculate the culling, the current positions and states, the KI.. and get 35 frames.

The game is worth its money - despite the annoying errors.

joethe33

Jun 2 2009, 23:15

Thanks. I wish I could find a command to show FPS to get an accurate reading. Still, I find the Urban lag and slow loading textures annoying. Despite this, I'm really enjoying the game.

ThePainkiller

Jun 2 2009, 23:31

Try to set fill rate on 100 and vid mem just to normal, vid very high can fullfill your bus, filrate 200 means that final resolutiob is in your case 3840*2400

did you ever play the game on fillrate 100%? it looks worse then arma, hell, even worse then ofp in some cases. it looks like a simulation of a guy who is short sighted, please give us AA asap.

joethe33

Jun 3 2009, 08:12

Still getting about the same performance on every range of settings, excluding the Fill-Rate/AF. Still seems to be "playable." Same slow loading textures etc. Running the 1.01 Patch. Hopefully the full release fixes that and concerns I'm having. Including the inability to get through the Manhattan missions. After completing the last objective, It set me back hours in game play to a previous save after crashing to the desktop.

I've been mostly sticking to the editor and multiplayer, waiting on the patch. If anyone has similar issues with FPS or possible "new" fixes, respond please. =D

BlueSteel

Jun 3 2009, 10:43

The campaign is heavily CPU limited, even on a quadcore. (for details, see here (http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?t=73537))

Try this: Set the fillrate to 50%. If your framerate goes up, you are limited by your GPU and can improve the framerate by changing some options. If the framerate stays the same, you are limited by your CPU; short of overclocking it you can't fix that by yourself.

After a lot of experimenting I found that these settings provide a good balance between performance and visual quality:
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/9955/arma2settings.jpg
With this I get 40-50fps outside and 30-40fps inside towns or forests.

Your framerate can go down if you zoom in while inside a forest, to fix this set shadows to medium. I avoided this since shadows look extremely blocky on that setting.

System:
Core2Quad 3.4GHz
GeForce GTX 260
4GB DDR2 RAM
Windows 7 x64 RC

Manzilla

Jun 3 2009, 11:09

soldier9945

Jun 3 2009, 15:50

I get 35-50fps most times with all settings max except fillrate at 100% and VD at 7000. To me, the game seems to run just as good as ArmA does on my rig.

But moving the fillrate above 120%+ really kills the performance if I don't adjust some of the other settings to lower values.

My rig:

C2E X9650@<hidden>
4GB Ram
ATi 3870 with most recent drivers(9.5 I think. I rolled it back a few and it still crashed.)
Vista 32bit SP2
ASUS P5E3 Deluxe Wi-Fi

Now, that's nice for you, but could you confirm your FPS in the third singleplayer mission called "Gegenangriff" ? Go into the village and look towards the center... I've got 20FPS when VD=38xx (to be able to set the terrain setting to very high), fillrate=100%, the rest on Very High.

Also, do you guess your FPS or do you actually use a program for it, like FRAPS or RivaTuner? (I know, stupid question, but you never know :D)

I don't say you lie, but I want to be sure, so I can identify my problem... if there is one.

Thanks alot!

joethe33

Jun 3 2009, 21:28

The BETA 186 Nvidia driver made a slight noticeable difference.

joethe33

Jun 4 2009, 00:04

Happens after saves.
http://i43.tinypic.com/13z5ms1.jpg

Hitman_FR

Jun 4 2009, 21:50

FPS tested with FRAPS in the "Harvest Red" mission (industrial complex) with a resolution of 1680x1050 and all settings set to maximum (with "sichtweite" set at 4000) :
with fillrate at 100% : only 20-22 fps :(
with fillrate at 200% : falls to 10 fps :(:(

my system :

Intel Core I7 920
6 GB Ram
GeForce GTX 295 (with 185.85 drivers)
Vista x64

Only one solution : LOWER SETTINGS !!! :(

Arma2 is a buggy but very good game (even if the aircrafts are too easy to handle for a "ultimative militärsimulation" in my opinion ;) )

OverDawg

Jun 4 2009, 22:35

Ouch, that is low for such a beast of a machine. Are both GPU's being used?

Hitman_FR

Jun 4 2009, 23:35

OverDawg,

the multi GPU option is enabled in the Nvidia control panel but i don't know if there is a way to check if both are used during the game. Do you know how i could check that?

thanks,

bye

Nemesis_wales

Jun 4 2009, 23:38

hit man, use the change EXE trick, change it too crysis.exe ... this tricks the card/nvidia prifle to think ur playing it an it boosts ur performance bi gtime

joethe33

Jun 5 2009, 07:41

hit man, use the change EXE trick, change it too crysis.exe ... this tricks the card/nvidia prifle to think ur playing it an it boosts ur performance bi gtime Didn't help me at all. Maybe because I had crysis installed?

Shadow NX

Jun 5 2009, 08:18

Somehow i get a feeling my GPU has issues but as i dont have problems in other games and dont get errors even if i stress test the card in FUR mark for a while.

When you get into the industrial complex in the campaign all probs started for me, heavy texture and lod loading and in the end even lots of graphic errors like spikes or wild flickering coloured stripes.

Setting things to normal helps but in some cases the errors even there show and the lod and texture loading is less but still present and thats so dman annyoing especially as the missions before ran smooth as silk on high settings.

IS the HD 4870 512MB combined with the Phenom X4 9850 @<hidden> 2,5 really sucha bad combo or should i consider sending my card to the manufacturer for a check?
I just wonder if that will bring me anything other than having no card for a while because as stated above all other games and test run fine and error free.

:/

OverDawg

Jun 5 2009, 11:54

OverDawg,

the multi GPU option is enabled in the Nvidia control panel but i don't know if there is a way to check if both are used during the game. Do you know how i could check that?

thanks,

bye

Judging from other posters adding the -winxp to your game shortcut may do something for you, give that a try