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MadDogX
Jan 15 2008, 09:49
Hi guys!
I was quite surprised after trying a search, that no one on these forums seems to have noticed a nice piece of software called PilFius.
First of all, let me post a link to the Pilfius + ArmA video on YouTube:
YouTube video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfQu2nuDt8A)
That video had me hooked within ten seconds. Five minutes later I was downloading the software. Somehow I had never thought about voice control in games before but the concept is definitely cool.
Although the fact that your player character echoes whatever you say is somewhat tiresome, it has a certain coolness factor to be talking to your AI squad mates without having to look at your F- and number keys or the command menu.
I only tried it yesterday for about an hour, but it definitely seems like something I could use on a regular basis - and not only for ArmA. I've even considered donating to the author, because I want to see a non-beta version released.
What do you guys think?
EDIT:
Here are a couple of links to Pilfius and some required and/or recommended stuff:
Pilfius homepage (http://pilfius.com.ar/default.php (http://pilfius.com.ar/default.php))
Microsoft Speech SDK 5.1 (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/ (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=5e86ec97-40a7-453f-b0ee-6583171b4530)...)
ArmA/OFP Pilfius profile (http://soundscapes.cozywebhost.com/ (http://soundscapes.cozywebhost.com/stuff/arma_ofp_pilflus.zip)...)
mute.zip for ArmA (http://soundscapes.cozywebhost.com/ (http://soundscapes.cozywebhost.com/stuff/mute.zip)...)
Shadow NX
Jan 15 2008, 09:55
Was discussed before here, a search should bring some results... at least if the search function works right again.
Anyway, its a pretty neat piece of software and i will give it a try soon, should increase survial rate of commanders a lot.
MadDogX
Jan 15 2008, 10:02
Was discussed before here, a search should bring some results... at least if the search function works right again.
Anyway, its a pretty neat piece of software and i will give it a try soon, should increase survial rate of commanders a lot.
Yeah the "search from the beginning" option didn't work for me, so I guess that's why I couldn't find anything.
Looks interesting.
I didn't check the page yet, so I'll just ask, how does it work, do you first make a sample and it saves it, then compares it with what you've just said? What about disturbances, like a sneeze or a cough? Hopefully that won't make wierd command. Very nice though.
MadDogX
Jan 15 2008, 10:47
The program has a couple of example texts that you can read to it. Somehow it uses those texts to adapt the recognition to your voice. I'm assuming this is necessary to compensate for different accents and dialects. The more you "train" the program, the beter it will recognize your commands. I only did the basic training text, buit there are a few more to choose from and it worked fine.
The rest is basically like creating hotkeys - only that you write words instead of hotkeys, which can then be assigned to different key combinations and stuff. For example you can assign the words "one", "two", "three" etc. to their respective F-keys, and then assign the word "disembark" to "4 ... 1", sort of like in the YouTube video. Then you can select team members by saying their numbers and tell them to get out of a vehicle by saying "disembark".
I haven't experimented with making noises or anything to see how the program reacts, but as far as I can tell it only reacts to spoken words.
[DirTyDeeDs]-Ziggy-
Jan 15 2008, 12:27
sounds pretty cool.
Is there a "push to talk" toggle that would seperate voice commands from just speaking on Ventrilo or TS2?
maybe I'll try it and find out its user friendlyness http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
andersson
Jan 15 2008, 15:42
It should be possible to make a new voice that you can select as a player with no sound to get rid of that command repeating.
frostwyrm333
Jan 15 2008, 16:37
I still dont understand why everytime the guy says something, the character will repeat it, it looks dumb and its slow.
It works great, you can assign hotkeys so it wont conflict with TS ventrillo etc..
Frostwyrm, it only repeats what hes saying because the voice is only activating keystrokes on the keyboard so you would hear the voices even if you were pressing the buttons on the keyboard, if it looks dumb and slow then thats Armas fault. I also use similar programs for flight simulators and they're a godsend.
MadDogX
Jan 15 2008, 20:49
I've been fine tuning my speech recognition for most of the day (getting some funny looks because of reading Aesops Fables etc. out loud) and also added some new commands to the already existing list I found on the Pilfius website.
Tested it with a large squad earlier and it's just brilliant. It gives you so much freedom to command a squad while not having to fiddle around with F- and number keys.
It's even possible to give lots of orders in quick succession and the engine will process them all! Such as:
"two three advance, four five flank left, six seven flank right"
By now I don't even mind my commands getting repeated, because it's a good indicator that they are being executed.
Quite good freeware there.
I've been using it for quite a time now and it's takes a bit to get used to, but surely makes things easier.
Pillage
Jan 15 2008, 23:39
Quoting a post I made on the Pilfius forum on Dec 1
Quote[/b] ]This program may be in it's infancy (@<hidden> a few months) but I can't praise it highly enough. Although primarily aimed at milsimers and gamers in general I now use it for everything. I have made profiles for Firefox, Google Sketchup, Armed Assault, Mount&Blade & Halflife 1 & 2 plus their expansions. but it's using it with the applications that has really impressed me. In sketchup I can design without having to look at the tool bar and with Firefox atleast 50% of my mouse/keyboard movement has been freed up.
Creating profiles for any game/application is insanely easy, because after the 5-10 minutes it takes to train it you then only need to type the new commands in not say them. It can be set for either PTT or always on. Command lists can be broken up into sections like the ArmA radio menu (movement, mount, target, etc). I recommend PTT as always on can pick up many false commands (this also depends on your accuracy vs response time setting).
I already saw that program some months ago, but ArmA was at a very low point in my interest, so I didn't try it.
May give it another chance with 1.09b, as the game experience is getting better every day.
It sounds very simple configure and very useful in the end. Usually, I don't like commanding AI in ArmA because of the insanely complicated keyboard commands, where you have to stop playing and concentrate on the correct key combination...
Thanks for (re)sharing with us http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
Malick
PS : how do girlfriends/wives react to this tool ? Mine is already sick of ArmA, I guess it won't do any good !
The Susser
Jan 16 2008, 11:38
Was discussed before here, a search should bring some results... at least if the search function works right again.
Anyway, its a pretty neat piece of software and i will give it a try soon, should increase survial rate of commanders a lot.
Yeah the "search from the beginning" option didn't work for me, so I guess that's why I couldn't find anything.
There is always someone acting the mod. I'm glad you posted this cause I missed the first discussion so thank you for bringing this to our attention.
Looks great! I will try it @<hidden> home with Arma and FS X. Thanks for the tip!
sparks50
Jan 17 2008, 02:35
Looks great! I will try it @<hidden> home with Arma and FS X. Thanks for the tip!
Second that x2!
Even with my bad english pronunciation I rarely encounter any problems with it. And when i do i just modify the words from "go prone" to "hit the dirt" etc so the computer hears me clearer.
My tip is to set it on push-to-activate(I use mouse button #4), and after a hour of play, you basicly forget that your squadmates are AI. Its great http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
MadDogX
Jan 17 2008, 08:26
PS : how do girlfriends/wives react to this tool ? Mine is already sick of ArmA, I guess it won't do any good !
My girlfriend is used to me talking over VoIP, so I haven't really been getting any funny looks or anything. She probably thinks I'm playing online and trying to boss the other players around or something. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
I'm really beginning to love this program. Aside from commanding squads in ArmA, it's also good for VSays in Quake Wars. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
the_bengine
Jan 19 2008, 18:19
Just been playing around with pilfius and it's great!!!
it initially had problems deciphering between 'all' and 'four' but it soon learnt the difference. I did have to do about 5 or 6 of the test readings tho.
What's great is you can dish out commands without taking your eyes off the action. I've grown to really quite like the way that i (the weedy, calculating brain) mumble a command to myself and, a second later, my war-torn, gruff virtual soldier (the hollow, mindless body) shouts it to his men.
THE POWER.....THE POWER!!!! woohahahah...etc
anyway, it currently only takes up about 11meg of ram, similar to fraps, but it seems to use more the more commands you program. best to just stick to the ones you use regularly.
Another tip is to program 10 additional commands and a 'backspace' command to negotiate through all the options that vary in different contexts. I've found saying "option one", "option two" etc works well, plus "cancel" for the backspace.
that way, you can say "All..get in...option 3" if a vehicle is listed but not in view.
MadDogX
Jan 20 2008, 11:46
I've actually made quite a few extra commands. Like you said, a cancel or back command for the menu is extremely helpful. I also made seperate commands for "watch north", watch "north-east" etc. So I can quickly tell my squaddies where to face.
On a related topic: Somehow it's disturbingly fun to put some guys against a wall and play firing squad. ("FIRE!!" .... BANG BANG BANG...)
I think I'm a bad person... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
XxEnigmAxX
Jan 20 2008, 16:08
Just been playing around with pilfius and it's great!!!
it initially had problems deciphering between 'all' and 'four' but it soon learnt the difference.
I changed All to squad it's alot easier for me and it forgoes the situation of being in control of one soldier as apposed to my whole team.>.<
SWAT_BigBear
Jan 20 2008, 19:51
Between this program and TrackIR, my keyboard skills are getting very lazy.
Pilfius is really handy during a dark atmosphere and/or night time missions.
What will be available for this game next?
XxEnigmAxX
Jan 20 2008, 20:24
you can still use pilfius for arma 2 just map the keys for the voice commands and save it under a new name http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
I use it for a few games,
IL2,Stalker it's a great time saving device i'll say that much
GrassyKnollington
Jan 21 2008, 11:02
Alternative to this program is VAC - Have been using it for 3 years without one single problem. $10 for a lifetime licence and worth every penny.
Program: www.dwvac.com
Review: http://www.airwarfare.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=644
SHWiiNG
Jan 22 2008, 20:14
Alternative to this program is VAC - Have been using it for 3 years without one single problem. $10 for a lifetime licence and worth every penny.
Program: www.dwvac.com
Review: http://www.airwarfare.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=644
But this piece of software if free, for a lifetime.
Ha sorry just had to say that.
Its like Open office and Win Word
You could pay £40 for Winword but have open office word for free, I know which one i would take (And have taken)
Alternative to this program is VAC
Hi GrassyKnollington,
Do you know where I can find an ArmA profile for VAC?
Tried PiLfIuS 0.9 Beta but it keep crashing on my rig and I really don't like thoose "pimped" GUI's (not complaining since it's is free, just my opinion).
/KC
MadDogX
Jan 24 2008, 15:49
Alternative to this program is VAC
Hi GrassyKnollington,
Do you know where I can find an ArmA profile for VAC?
Tried PiLfIuS 0.9 Beta but it keep crashing on my rig and I really don't like thoose "pimped" GUI's (not complaining since it's is free, just my opinion).
/KC
KeyCat, do you use a non-english keyboard layout? Pilfius doesn't like the ^ character, which is the key for selecting all squad members -at least on german keyboards. If you press that key, Pilfius will crash.
If you change that key to something else, Pilfius will be ok. Or you can change the keyboard layout to english for Pilfius and ArmA.
KeyCat, do you use a non-english keyboard layout?
Thanks for the pointer MadDogX! Could be the reason since I'm using a Swedish keyboard layout, will try again.
Still, if anyone knows where to find an ArmA profile for VAC I would appreciate it since I intend to try VAC as well.
/KC
andersson
Jan 24 2008, 22:19
As I remember its quick and easy to do your own profile to VAC. I used it in OFP and I never use default layout.
wolfsblut_
Jan 26 2008, 03:17
Maybe i am wrong but i thing before i can get the "all"-command i have to hold down constantly the "command"-button.
My question: how do you manage with pilfius the p e r m a n e n t hold-down-button?
GrassyKnollington
Jan 26 2008, 12:47
Alternative to this program is VAC
Hi GrassyKnollington,
Do you know where I can find an ArmA profile for VAC?
Tried PiLfIuS 0.9 Beta but it keep crashing on my rig and I really don't like thoose "pimped" GUI's (not complaining since it's is free, just my opinion).
/KC
Afternoon KeyKat. You can download a VAC profile for ArmA here:
http://www.tacticalsites.com/~buccaneer/
You will find it on Downloads page 3
I like the way VAC is supported. Unlike the free programs, if a user has a good idea to include within the program, he logs in to the support forum and logs his idea. If the idea is a good one, Shift_E (the programs author) usually implements it within a couple of days.
Shoot (which I used to use before VAC) has not been updated for about 4 years! And lets face it, $10 (about 5 quid) for a lifetimes licence, on a peace of very good software isn't that bad.
Thanks for the VAC profile GrassyKnollington. It's always a bit easier to have something to start with instead of starting from scratch...
/KC
GrassyKnollington
Jan 26 2008, 15:33
My pleasure KC. I hear you.
I hope you find the VAC profile a handy start point.
Wow... downloading this as soon as I get home. Thanks for this!
This proggie is awesome http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
I made a tiny addon to mute your in-game voice, so it doesn't repeat every command you speak to the mic.
http://soundscapes.cozywebhost.com/stuff/mute.zip
In your profile choose "Mute" as your character voice.
Barely-injured
Feb 28 2009, 23:22
hi i just found out about this program and it seems like a great idea but i cant seem to get it to work.
I am using vista so i did the vista speech recognition setup and loaded up the arma profile in pilfius and run arma but for some reason it does not recognize commands in game.
voice recognition works on desktop and on the pilfuis command list thing but i does not work in game makes me feel that i am missing something here, i tried assigning push to talk, push to toggle and always on with no use.
any help is appreciated.
Really weird, it should work with this setup. Try to set constant listening, not push-to-talk...
Hm.. maybe you have audio mixing turned on - so when in game, it also records game sounds apart from your voice and can't recognize commands... Check this out and set only the microphone as the input source.
SWAT_BigBear
Mar 1 2009, 06:12
Mine works fine with Vista, (setup for VR was very time consuming).
I only use it for SP play.
VOIP/Comms interferes, or maybe I missed an option?
andersson
Mar 1 2009, 07:11
I used another program, VAC, and I had the option to disable the program if I pushed a button of my choice. If I choosed the same button as TS VAC disabled itself while I was talking to other players.
See if you can find anything similar to that.
Here are my pilflus command lists for ArmA and OFP. They're based on the list found on pilflus website, but I added a lot of additional commands, including mounting vehicles, watching a particular direction, team selection by colors (after assigning), etc.
Some commands can be said in multiple ways, f.e.:
return to formation = fall back into formation = follow me = get back
squad = all = everyone = everybody
Mounting works when you're already inside a vehicle, the commands are:
get in = get in anywhere
ride in back = get in back
gunner get in
driver get in = pilot get in
disembark = get out = out
In OFP list I also added movement commands, like: move west 500.
http://soundscapes.cozywebhost.com/stuff/arma_ofp_pilflus.zip
Thanks for posting that command list Soohy, I'll give it a whirl. I've found Pilfius has saved my arse a number of times. No longer having to take your fingers of the movement keys and mouse to order the AI spastics around helps.
Can get a little confusing with Teamspeak running at the same time, but push to talk goes a long way to solving that.
Nice to see more people discovering voice recognition and as said in title it really ads to the immersion when giving orders to AI!
I personally use VAC and I'm surprised how well it works in ArmA (and other sims) even with my sometimes wierd swedish/english accent http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
Thanks for the mute addon Soohy I will try it out next time.
/KC
Andersson[SWEC]
Mar 2 2009, 17:35
I´d like to try it, but im lacking a
"Speech Recognition Engine"...
Im runing Vista32, were do i find one..??
PS: Link please
Google for SpeechSDK51.exe - it's required for plifius.
Andersson[SWEC]
Mar 3 2009, 06:00
Didnt work...Still says i have no engine
I think you must be running an English version of Vista for it to work.
For some reason MS decided to not include the required files in localized Vista versions. I've heard rumors that it's possible to install English as a secondary language if you have Vista Ultimate but nothing I've tried since I still use XP Pro (and gonna keep doing that for while).
/KC
Inkompetent
Mar 3 2009, 09:35
What is the current version of Pilfius? Googling around I can only find 0.9 which seem to be from 2007, and the Pilfius homepage is unaccessible at the moment :S
sparks50
Mar 3 2009, 10:47
I had to download voice recognition from microsoft website for my localized vista.
@<hidden> - could you add the following links to the 1st post please in order to make things easier?
Speech SDK 5.1 (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=5e86ec97-40a7-453f-b0ee-6583171b4530)
ArmA_OFP_pilflus.zip (http://soundscapes.cozywebhost.com/stuff/arma_ofp_pilflus.zip)
mute.zip (http://soundscapes.cozywebhost.com/stuff/mute.zip) (tiny addon to mute your in-game voice, so it doesn't repeat every command you speak to the mic. In your profile choose "Mute" as your character voice.)
Thanks Soohy for the links and info. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
Ill have a try out for sure.
What is the current version of Pilfius? Googling around I can only find 0.9 which seem to be from 2007, and the Pilfius homepage is unaccessible at the moment :S
The site is http://pilfius.com.ar/default.php (without "www"). 0.9 is latest.
Andersson[SWEC]
Mar 3 2009, 16:36
Kind of odd though..
I have Windows Speach Recognition
in my startmenu but i cant start it...
Inkompetent
Mar 3 2009, 18:34
Ah, that did it. Thanks everyone. Time to see if I can get this bugger to work. Haven't had much luck with other voice control softwares.
DesertJedi
Mar 3 2009, 22:05
For anyone interested, there is another similar app called Shoot available here:
http://clans.gameclubcentral.com/shoot/
lecholas
Mar 4 2009, 21:24
I've just (after reading this topic) switched from Shoot to PilfIus because the latter IMHO works better. Shoot doesn't have recognition of fluent talk so you have to speak your commands one after one, not in one sentence. You have to say: Squad. (wait for a second) Return to formation. With PiLfius you can say: 'Squad return to formation' in one sentence and the program should understand you.
Also, I'm under an impression that PiLfius is more accurate in recognition than Shoot. Strange because AFAIK both use the same microsoft sound recognition engine.
@<hidden> - could you add the following links to the 1st post please in order to make things easier?
Speech SDK 5.1 (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=5e86ec97-40a7-453f-b0ee-6583171b4530)
ArmA_OFP_pilflus.zip (http://soundscapes.cozywebhost.com/stuff/arma_ofp_pilflus.zip)
mute.zip (http://soundscapes.cozywebhost.com/stuff/mute.zip) (tiny addon to mute your in-game voice, so it doesn't repeat every command you speak to the mic. In your profile choose "Mute" as your character voice.)
Thanks Soohy for the links and info. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
Ill have a try out for sure.
By your command. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
Added links to OP.
BiGFooT_y2k
Mar 6 2009, 14:42
The commands library don't work for me http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif I can load it, but Pilfius don't react on voice commands. So I did my own lib which is working. Shame the Pilfius is quite unstable and is crashing everytime http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif
BeerHunter
Mar 6 2009, 21:50
I'm using a little program called VAC VAC Home (http://www.dwvac.com/).
It's not free (pretty cheap though and comes with a 30 day trial) but I like it because you can easily assign more than 1 voice command to the same operation (ie Fall in , On Me , Back into formation etc. all for the squad to re-group).
I also find it extremely easy to program and you can export the commands into text files for reference.
I'm just using notepad to edit these list - it's the fastest way (thanks to copy/paste), especially when assigning multiple voice commands for the same things.
Quote[/b] ]COMMAND i've got him
KEY 5
KEY 7
COMMAND target destroyed
KEY 5
KEY 7
COMMAND target neutralized
KEY 5
KEY 7
COMMAND enemy down
KEY 5
KEY 7
COMMAND soldier is history
KEY 5
KEY 7
Im having some minor problems with it. The program on its own is wonderful! The issue is either my speech recognition, or just wrong key commands when doing "ALL" unit commands.. Single or miltiple units i can do great with. Controlling the groups a whole (where you press spacebar) isnt working for me. Several things have happened here.
Only a few of the units get selected...or...
The whole group gets selected, but the next command gets lost in process..
Since i dont have internet other than my phone, i cant get a pilfius command list doloaded (but i do have the arma pdf command list)
I am just not sure to set the spacebar command for "all" by itself for the action, then set another keystroke binding for the actual action i want...or bind "all" (spacebar) in with the entire action i want..for example
(One entire string) 'all" spacebar+ "move" 1+ "return to formation" 1
Ot (two seperate strings)
Command "All" (spacebar) THEN assign a seperate command of 1+1 (move- return to formation)
I know you have to hold spacebar down for the order to execute in game, if you release it too early the all issue is ceased. So i dont know if i need to mess with the "hold key for xxx miliseconds option" or not.
Other than i have to say my commands EXTREMELY FAST..i can control the individual units ok.
Sorry for the long text, but all i got is my cellphone, and its slooow on the internet, and no download capabilities.
Can one of yall send me a pm with the pilfius ARMA commands?
The goodnews! I use the ECS mod, so there is no repeatle stuff from the clunky robot voice! Nice....
And i havent tried it yet, but thinking off assigning my troops as last names, that way its more fluent in combat. "Johans, find cover! Anderson target that tank!" rather than saying "2,3,4," for situations.
I car about my guys! Not "just a number" to me! =P
There are command lists posted in this thread - look above. Also the default key for selecting all is: `- maybe that's why space bar doesn't work.
The usual order is something like:
all (`), return to formation (1-1)
COMPLETE RE-RE-EDIT:::
I figured out the problem. I wear construction type earmuffs coverted to headphones, that block out almost all sound...i forgot i have 3 tornado fans going on in there (the computer..not the headphones!http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif Since i couldnt hear them with in game sounds, and heavy duty earmuffs blocking out external sound, i couldnt figure out why my training was so bad. DOH!
I removed the turbine jet exhaust fans and
Retrained all vocals, in a quiet atmosphere, fired back up arma.
NO PROBLEMS what so ever.
And i realised its easier to make all commands first for one soldier...then just keep adding in more soldier prompts.
Also calling soldiers by a basic last name (each "name" is common to soldier type i.e. "Sanderson" will always be sniper, "andrews" will always be anti-whatever, "engles" would be engineer..etc,etc..
Plus, after each "common" command like STOP, i test it, if it works, i then add in additional commands that mean the same keypress, but different wording (dont move!, stay put! Hold what you got, far enough, thats good..etc etc, that way im not relegated to sounding like stephen hawkins, and communication is more lifelike.
Very nice program!
Does anyone know how to get the fire teams to move, or flank?
I can get individual units to move and flank, i can get the whole squad to move, or flank...but i cant get red team, green team, etc etc to do anything..
I can get red team to move..but thats it, any other team, or movement causes the control panel to open up, select desired movement..then fires my weapon...rather than "click" to "move here"...(even though the key press is exactly as i do in game..studied,written down,tried different combinations)
Is there a key press or assignable keypress in game that is "hidden" or not well known to use that highlights only that fireteam, rather than having to select and scroll?
Im wondering if that is the issue.
Also can someone confirm this crash bug for me? If i assign "K" for compass in pilfius..it crashes on me.
Same thing for "N" for night vision, and "M" for map..
Thanks
Another convert here - downloaded the files last night and set it up within minutes (none of the usual installation swearing). I'm impressed with the level of recognition after just the basic voice training. I grabbed a squad of Royal Marines and headed into Afghani in Jackals to take on 20 Taleban. Have'nt tried the mute function yet as the repeated commands can get a bit much sometimes.
Just need to learn the commands off by heart now.
cjph
SWAT_BigBear
Mar 18 2009, 20:33
Just need to learn the commands off by heart now.
cjph
It's a lil easier to use common slang:
Punk, go " "
bitch, disembark
ect.
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
Has anyone got this (pilfius) program to work in vista?
I cannot get it working here. On my XP pc it works fine though.
So if anyone could give step-by-step instructions to get this great program working on vista, I'll be really thankful.
All-a-Mort
Mar 31 2009, 13:11
Two questions if I may ask them:
1. Lacking a mic, can anyone suggest a decent suitable headset for using, or describe how they use the voice thing? I prefer routing the normal sound via my amp, and figure I'll lose that with headphones on or get a strange audio effect (Delay? Echo?).
2. Since as mentioned I lack a mic/headset, does using voice recognition software add enough to make it worth buying one? I've always been rubbish playing as a squad leader because of the complex keypresses. I do like the voice commands in the console Rainbow Six Vegas games (though coughing has an odd effect).
I use an old Medusa Speedlink headphones/mic setup as it has directional/positional sound - suspect you get stereo through your amp so may not be relevent.
Re controlling via voice, I am a convert and fan and with an option to disable it via a keypress you can still use teamspeak or Arma voip to talk to real people. I think I might need the mute executable soon though as the repeating of your commands can get a little much. I'll do this once the system recognises my commands as near perfect as I can get. 'Cancel' is a useful command, since you sometimes get stuck in a menu and need to clear it to start over.
cjph
All-a-Mort
Apr 1 2009, 10:04
I use an old Medusa Speedlink headphones/mic setup as it has directional/positional sound - suspect you get stereo through your amp so may not be relevent.
Hmmm. I worry that unlike on a console where only voice is heard via the headphones and in-game sounds come from the speakers, that with the headset, sound would be delivered from the amp and speakers and by the headphones and if there is a delay between the sound being processed by the amp before being output then the effect would be...weird. Might need to try a test with normal headphones and something. The amp processes a Dolby Digital 5.1 output by the card, though since I haven't got 5 speakers set up it has to monkey about with it to create a virtual effect. 5.1 headphones do the same I guess.
Re controlling via voice, I am a convert and fan and with an option to disable it via a keypress you can still use teamspeak or Arma voip to talk to real people.
I've never bothered playing multiplayer (to much hassle sorting out my mod folder), so can't say the teamspeak stuff means much to me, just interested to know opinions on whether it adds enough to this game (and potentially others...voice activated computer in X3TC perhaps a la Star Trek) to be worth shelling out for a headset. These your ones by any chance?
Speedlink Medusa 5.1 (http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/9159094/SPEEDLINK-SL-8793-SBK-Medusa-NX-5-1-Gaming-Headset/Product.html)
Those look like the ones, I don't have them to hand or the paperwork but they look the same (I may have na older verions as they were about half the price in the link). I drive them from a Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS sound card, and all the music, sounds and speech come through loud and clear. Obviously it will depend on your setup but I have no issues with them sound wise (they cover the ears and block out all other sound). My only gripe is they can get heavy on the ears after several hours play but it is the price you pay for the over the ears design.
The speech recognition is great in singleplayer as it does free up time looking for commands, and not having the fastest reflexes I am dead pretty quick if I spend too much time going backspace-0-1 etc for commands. Saying "Squad stay alert" is much easier. As it's free, give it a go - you have nothing to lose.
cjph
All-a-Mort
Apr 2 2009, 10:14
Ok dude, cheers. I'll likely just get the basic stereo medusa, as I've read that the 5.1 headphones don't compare well compared to using the CMSS-3D headphones setting on creative X-fi cards. I was even looking at just a clip-on mic, but they don't seem to have mute/PTT functionality and the mic quality is maybe questionable.
Now, if I were feeling more flush I might go for this:
Stryker PC Throat Mic (http://www.throat-mic.co.uk/stryker_pc.htm)
Bit geeky, but would probably solve my headphones v speakers issue, whilst upping the immersion factor.
edit: Removed.
edit2: PiLfIus crash alot! Thats the problem with it...
anyone have the same problem? (alot)
Has anyone got this (pilfius) program to work in vista?
SWAT_BigBear
Apr 6 2009, 13:13
Has anyone got this (pilfius) program to work in vista?
Yes,
No issues, but I only use it in single play.
Training VR took forever.
I noticed Pifius doesn't like any other keyboard layout than US English (UK possibly okay too). Certain keys would make it crash when running with the German keyboard layout. I believe especially the "select all units" key (the one on the top left, beneath ESC - not sure what it's called) would make Pilfius crash all the time.
gunterlund
Apr 7 2009, 00:01
ok having a bit of trouble with this. I have pilfius loaded and it is listening. I have the Arma.lcl loaded and n Pilfius is recognizes the commands. when I load arma and try to execute commands nothing happens. what am I missing here. do I need to retrain Pilfius to recognize the arma command. Shouldnt I be able to bring up notepad and when I say Squad shouldnt it write `?
you need to activate the program inside the game..
maybe you set pilfius to work while pressing a key or always..
First you need to activate the program while you are in game.
edit: sometimes for me when the program stops responding i alt tab and i confirm that the pilfius just crashed http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
All-a-Mort
Apr 16 2009, 10:17
Just managed to get this thing running. Damn it's fun. The software works really well, even picking up my rapidfire speech and idiosyncratic choice of commands.
I've had to just set the activation to always on, either before launching the game or by switching when in the map screen (I find my PC is happier to switch from the map than in game normally), because I couldn't find an easy key press to use that either wasn't already mapped to something else or require multiple keypresses. Out of interest what keys are people using to toggle it?
ok having a bit of trouble with this. I have pilfius loaded and it is listening. I have the Arma.lcl loaded and n Pilfius is recognizes the commands. when I load arma and try to execute commands nothing happens. what am I missing here. do I need to retrain Pilfius to recognize the arma command. Shouldnt I be able to bring up notepad and when I say Squad shouldnt it write `?
I think we have the same problem. Do you have Vista 64 bit, because I do and I think that's the main cause of the problem?
Can someone please help us? The original website, http://www.pilfius.com.ar/, is down. There is no support for this program, and yet this is the only software that I know of that can do continuous voice recognition.
I tried Shoot 1.6, but I have to pause for a second after saying each word... defeats the purpose of having voice recog when I can just type the commands faster...
So, does anyone know how to make Pilfius Vista 64 compatible? Or maybe someone knows any other programs like Pilfius that can do continuous voice recognition?
Uraniumman
Jun 29 2010, 17:41
I think we have the same problem. Do you have Vista 64 bit, because I do and I think that's the main cause of the problem?
Can someone please help us? The original website, http://www.pilfius.com.ar/, is down. There is no support for this program, and yet this is the only software that I know of that can do continuous voice recognition.
I tried Shoot 1.6, but I have to pause for a second after saying each word... defeats the purpose of having voice recog when I can just type the commands faster...
So, does anyone know how to make Pilfius Vista 64 compatible? Or maybe someone knows any other programs like Pilfius that can do continuous voice recognition?
I have win7 64 bit and I am experiencing the same problem. The speech recognition windows program picks up just fine, but for some reason Pilfius does not generate the keystrokes. I have tried just about every program I can get my hands on, and so far nothing either works, or just doesn't compare to Pilfius.
To scream the obvious again: SOMEONE PLEASE HELP US 64 BIT USERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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