Creating a New "Island"

[TheArgyll]

Can anyone help me out with some pointers for creating a new island ? I will be modelling it in AutoCAD 2006, converting to 3ds then... Well, then I dont really know what to do.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks.

[Dr_Eyeball]

The island editing forum is at ARMA : MAP EDITING (VISITOR 3) (http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard311/ikonboard.cgi?act=SF;f=77). You'll get more support there.

[Miller]

Yes or like this :Visitor 3: Making of simple landscape (http://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Visitor_3:_Making_of_simple_landscape)

For german this link: Visitor 3 Anleitung v 1.1 in Deutsch (http://www.armabase.de/cms/include.php?path=content/news.php&contentid=470&PHPKITSID=084b2791915cedbeaa5debdbbd2f49ab)

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[Commando84]

im wondering when will the first from scratch islands be available for downloading http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/inlove.gif i just wish i had some new grounds to explore http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

[Opteryx]

im wondering when will the first from scratch islands be available for downloading http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/inlove.gif i just wish i had some new grounds to explore http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
Oh Oh I can tell you that WITHOUT giving you that stupid "it's done when it's done" answer! Exactly one month after BIS releases the final version of V3!

Weeeeell okay to be honest I'm not completely sure how long it will take to finish my maps, but if I decide to NOT release them in a pack and individually, I would say not too long after full version of V3 is out....... provided nothing stupid happens...... which actually happens quite frequently when I'm operating Visitor.... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif

[ofp2]

I would release one tommorrow no problem ,i have a stable iraq ,afghanistan and half finished europe including uk map.
there is one problem, the smallest size of the islands which is afghanistan is 500 megabytes lol. so until i find a way to reduce it wont be just yet .

[Bracken]

Here is one, it is 4.5 megs so it may help you Ofp2, not sure. (not made by me)
http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=2033

[fasad]

Yes, the amount of textures used on a large island makes distribution quite a challenge. For example, Sahrani in a zip file = ~250mb.

I think the satellite/layer mask segments under the ocean could share a single tile, which would reduce the file size.

Also, islands aren't complete without roads, and we can't place roads yet http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif

[ofp2]

Here is one, it is 4.5 megs so it may help you Ofp2, not sure. (not made by me)
http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=2033
its a beautiful small island , but its a pity he has not left the pew and everything in there would have made a nice example map for begginers.
alas tho dosent help for me its only a 10km map with a 3km landmass , mine are nearer 400km square lol. i better hope some bin tool can compress the hell out of them.

@<hidden> we cant place bis roads but old dirty roads are ok in afghanisan http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[fasad]

If you know of any road objects that can be placed in V3, please share the knowledge http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

[kubi]

i&#39;m trying to reveal the secret of roads http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

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[hoz]

Kubi, don&#39;t cross post to other forums. Its one of the forum rules. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/whistle.gif

[Hund]

So, what exactly would happen if one went ahead and just placed the road objects manually? It is possible ands they do show up in Bulldozer, but would it work in game? would it lag? would it crash?

I&#39;m curious...

[fasad]

Nothing bad happens, it&#39;s just that placing them manually is about 1000 times the work as using the road tool.

[Atsche]

All roads working fine for me without any problems

[ofp2]

Quote[/b] ]All roads working fine for me without any problems
There is one major problem sgt.ace
A distinct lack of feedback and information sharing http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
to say there is no problem , it all works for me is really not enough ,could you be so kind as to show us your process ?

i have tried roads on the samplemap and there is no problem until i try to use the panel of objects newroads then its not possible to create start piece and terminator piece , how are you doing it ?

[Opteryx]

Yes, please share your knowledge.

[Atsche]

Im using only the biki manual (http://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Visitor_3_Manual#New_road_objects_.5BF3.5D). What do u think about a Visitor conversation in IRC or something like that, to share more Infos.

[Opteryx]

Eh, last time I checked the roads section in the Biki was outdated and there wasn&#39;t much there that corresponded with the Interface in V3, I might have been too tired for it to make sense to me though, I&#39;ll check it again.

Also, this forum is for sharing information so that people can search and find questions without having to constantly start new threads, (although some don&#39;t seem to get that...) so I don&#39;t think having closed discussions on different channels of communication is very wise, information should be shared and readily available to anyone without having to go through much hassle.

[fasad]

The issue wis the roads distributed with ArmA cannot be used since they have been binarized, and the necessary data points for the road tool get removed as part of the binarization process.

So, Sgt. Ace, which road objects are you using?

[Aussie]

As for roads I tried laying a few and then got the AI to drive around and they work great, the bridges are the only thing they wont cross. My maps only quite small so I&#39;ve nearly completed the road network. The only real problem I found is dodgy textures when u lay them on the long grass. Heres some pics, its about 80% completed.

http://sas.ogn.com.au/island/arma%202007-09-18%2023-41-58-79.jpg

http://sas.ogn.com.au/island/arma%202007-09-18%2023-27-39-18.jpg

http://sas.ogn.com.au/island/arma%202007-09-18%2023-37-38-20.jpg

http://sas.ogn.com.au/island/arma%202007-09-18%2023-48-31-23.jpg

http://sas.ogn.com.au/island/arma%202007-09-18%2023-48-59-75.jpg

http://sas.ogn.com.au/island/arma%202007-09-18%2023-41-53-63.jpg




When I created the mask I used the city texture under the road network, this then helped me when I used buldozer as I just followed the texture path. As for the sat pic, I still need to do more work on that, I used the sat pic from saharini and took small sat textures from that. I found a trick for making good mountains and ridgelines in the greyscale, after creating them I used the soften pic tool too smooth out the overall pic and blend ridges into valleys

[Opteryx]

Very Impressive&#33;

I especially like this view:
http://sas.ogn.com.au/island/arma%202007-09-18%2023-27-39-18.jpg

One thing though, it looks as if the trees are all the same height, you should fiddle a little bit with the Randomize setting in the Artificial Objects Definition though, other than that it looks awesome.

[Aussie]

Excellent idea I&#39;d completely forgotton about that, idiot me was doing it manually..lol cheers I have redone some forrest already I&#39;ll post a comparison pic later http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

[fasad]

As for roads I tried laying a few and then got the AI to drive around and they work great, the bridges are the only thing they wont cross.
Aussie, what road objects are you placing? How did you de-pbo them, etc?

I have been unable to get V3 to accept any road object as a valid road object. I even "forced" V3 to accept some roads taken from roads.pbo, which allows the tool to work (albeit without any data on the road object), but the results crash V3 and buldozer almost instantly.

[Aussie]

I de-pbo&#39;d the roads addon then added all of them to the new roads section in V3. Then I changed the colors to signify a main road or a dirt road (this will also change them in the map editor). Once that was done I could start adding them to the map. Use the Cntrl key to orintate objects (wish I&#39;d known that before about 10K of road..LOL

Another tip as I mentioned before, make sure u use Mesto in the mask, do all your roads in the mask, then when u use V3 you can follow the path, make it slightly bigger than the road so u get a good gravel texture on the shoulders of the road. ( As you can see in the second bottom pic) One thing I have found is laying roads in the long grass with the mesto underlay causes problems, kinda goes all blocky, I have to make the road shoulder bigger to counter it.

One more thing play around with the "hardness" of the brush when using PSP or photoshop its a great way of getting textures to run into each other

[fasad]

Ah, so you did it the hard way, placing single road piece objects one by one? Nice work, it&#39;s hard to do&#33;

[Aussie]

As far as I know thats the only way I do it, I tried defining and creating roads but wasnt able too sort it out so I was faced with the option of having an un-usable island without roads..hehe.

[Allie]

Ok i finished something, its not much but i&#39;l make it all public, just see what you can make out of it.

Its the PBO and the whole working folder with all the pics and scripts and stuff.
http://www.delta-automaten.com/public/tummyland.rar

Pic of the island: http://www.delta-automaten.com/public/tummyland.jpg

wont be bug free tho, http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif But at least i&#39;m working on a "real" island now .

&#33; Rar file about 50Mb, but it is all &#33;

Later

ps: put the tummylandv1 folder straight to your P:/ drive

[[APS]Gnat]

Nice thanks Allie .... its helping me to get started

[Heatseeker]

Yes Allie, well done and thanks http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif .