8800 and SLI

[Flasher444]

I don't understand what is the problem with my 8800 GTX SLI and ARMA, is it ARMA or the Nvidia drivers because I had toi deactivate the SLI to have a smooth animation on ARMA .....

[Key Dutch]

that , couse Arma do not support SLI tehnology.

[Flasher444]

So in this case I hope that Bohemia will soon do a path for this because I have bought a 2 8800 GTX to play will all options ON and no lag, and I hope I've not spent my money for nothing !!!

[MattXR]

So in this case I hope that Bohemia will soon do a path for this because I have bought a 2 8800 GTX to play will all options ON and no lag, and I hope I've not spent my money for nothing !!!
u must be rich ^^ just 1 8800 does the trick for me http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

[Flasher444]

With one 8800 GTX, it's not bad, but with 2 it should be perfect http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

[Key Dutch]

So in this case I hope that Bohemia will soon do a path for this because I have bought a 2 8800 GTX to play will all options ON and no lag, and I hope I've not spent my money for nothing !!!
u must be rich ^^ just 1 8800 does the trick for me ***http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
i dont know, i would not go for 8800 GTX they slower than x1950 XTX, ok they have extra memory, but its not big deal.
*** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** 8800GTX *** *** *** *** *** X1950XTX/X1950 CF
Core Clock Speed *** *** *** *** ***575MHz *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***650MHz
Video Memory Installed *** 768MB *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** 512MB
Technology *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** GDDR3 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** GDDR4
Memory Clock Speed *** *** ***1.9GHz *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** 2GHz

all other info prity much same, but, there is "but"
8800GTX cost on ***J120/260$ more than ***x1950XTX, J120 for extra 256MB and slower speed? no thx u.
P.S. here "J" stand for "British pound-sterling"

[Silves]

Key Dutch, u dont know much about hardware do u?

[Flasher444]

Ahy Key Ducht I saw you have a PhysX acceleration card, is this card usefull in arma and taken in account by the graphic engine ?

[Key Dutch]

Ahy Key Ducht I saw you have a PhysX acceleration card, is this card usefull in arma and taken in account by the graphic engine ?
no, is no use for Arma, i just fitt in my comp anyway, have extra cash, so i diside why not.
this card usefull for games, wich actualy support PhysX card, there is not many , cant remember where i read full list game wich support PhysX.
Anyway , my card there just for, situacion, if i come across this kind of game.

[Key Dutch]

Key Dutch, u dont know much about hardware do u?
what make u think, im not?

[dirtylarrygb]

So in this case I hope that Bohemia will soon do a path for this because I have bought a 2 8800 GTX to play will all options ON and no lag, and I hope I've not spent my money for nothing !!!
u must be rich ^^ just 1 8800 does the trick for me http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
i dont know, i would not go for 8800 GTX they slower than x1950 XTX, ok they have extra memory, but its not big deal.
8800GTX X1950XTX/X1950 CF
Core Clock Speed 575MHz 650MHz
Video Memory Installed 768MB 512MB
Technology GDDR3 GDDR4
Memory Clock Speed 1.9GHz 2GHz

all other info prity much same, but, there is "but"
8800GTX cost on J120/260$ more than x1950XTX, J120 for extra 256MB and slower speed? no thx u.
P.S. here "J" stand for "British pound-sterling"

LOL slower?
it's not just about the MHZ of the core, there Pipes and stuff that count.

Single card Scores: 1600x1024, 4xaa 8 xaf

Oblivion outdoors 1950 XTX 17 FPS

8800 GTX 36 FPS

Hmm, thats 2x faster...

NOTE 8800 is x2 more expensive.

http://tomshardware.co.uk/2007....e7.html (http://tomshardware.co.uk/2007/03/21/matchless_muscle_overclocked_8800_uk/page7.html)

[Key Dutch]

Single card Scores: 1600x1024, 4xaa 8 xaf

Oblivion outdoors 1950 XTX 17 FPS

8800 GTX 36 FPS

Hmm, ***thats 2x faster...

NOTE 8800 is x2 more expensive.

http://tomshardware.co.uk/2007....e7.html (http://tomshardware.co.uk/2007/03/21/matchless_muscle_overclocked_8800_uk/page7.html)
first, if look at ur URL wich u left, 1950XTX das 22.9 (17 do x1950 Pro)
that not make 2x faster
second if read rall 8 peges of test, in first 2 u will see "Nvidia introduced its G80 processor in November last year. Knowing they were the top dog in the high-performance segment, the company placed a hold on overclocked models from board manufacturers going into the market. This maximizes the sales of the primary offering as products that exceed Nvidia's specification do not cannibalize the launch product. But as time goes by, there is a need to refresh the offering based on market pressures such as supply and demand.

Of late, the restriction on overclocked versions has been lifted and those thrill seeking performance hounds can find factory overclocked models. Today, we look at the performance of two overclocked versions of Nvidia's high-end, DX10 processor in the EVGA 8800GTX KO and the Foxconn 8800GTS." wonder if anyone was planning overclock 1950XTX, wich u can do in Catalist settings
3rd they was testing on Processor(s) Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 Conroe
2.93 GHz, 1,066 MHz FSB, 32 kB +32 kB L1 , 4 MB L2
Platform EVGA 122-CK-NF68-AR, LGA 775
Nvidia nForce 680i SLI, BIOS version 2.053.57
wich stright away no good for ATI cards, they ment to run on AMD/ATI
and last there is test for 3 games and 3DMark05 (why not 3DMark06 ?)and result is diferent
in overall its sims , yes overclocked 8800GTX faster than 1950XTX (wich i believe standart setings) there for question, how good 1950XTX will , if u overclock it.(example. i can overclock my for bout 7%)

[dirtylarrygb]

Single card Scores: 1600x1024, 4xaa 8 xaf

Oblivion outdoors 1950 XTX 17 FPS

8800 GTX 36 FPS

Hmm, thats 2x faster...

NOTE 8800 is x2 more expensive.

http://tomshardware.co.uk/2007....e7.html (http://tomshardware.co.uk/2007/03/21/matchless_muscle_overclocked_8800_uk/page7.html)
first, if look at ur URL wich u left, 1950XTX das 22.9 (17 do x1950 Pro)
that not make 2x faster
second if read rall 8 peges of test, in first 2 u will see "Nvidia introduced its G80 processor in November last year. Knowing they were the top dog in the high-performance segment, the company placed a hold on overclocked models from board manufacturers going into the market. This maximizes the sales of the primary offering as products that exceed Nvidia's specification do not cannibalize the launch product. But as time goes by, there is a need to refresh the offering based on market pressures such as supply and demand.

Of late, the restriction on overclocked versions has been lifted and those thrill seeking performance hounds can find factory overclocked models. Today, we look at the performance of two overclocked versions of Nvidia's high-end, DX10 processor in the EVGA 8800GTX KO and the Foxconn 8800GTS." wonder if anyone was planning overclock 1950XTX, wich u can do in Catalist settings
3rd they was testing on Processor(s) Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 Conroe
2.93 GHz, 1,066 MHz FSB, 32 kB +32 kB L1 , 4 MB L2
Platform EVGA 122-CK-NF68-AR, LGA 775
Nvidia nForce 680i SLI, BIOS version 2.053.57
wich stright away no good for ATI cards, they ment to run on AMD/ATI
and last there is test for 3 games and 3DMark05 (why not 3DMark06 ?)and result is diferent
in overall its sims , yes overclocked 8800GTX faster than 1950XTX (wich i believe standart setings) there for question, how good 1950XTX will , if u overclock it.(example. i can overclock my for bout 7%)
erm they perform worse on ATI under most benchmarks the duo cores improve FPS on both the G80 and ATI 1950.

The whole point of the 8800 series isn't the fact you can do 200 FPS in Hl2 at 800x600.

its the fact you can do 2000+ res and still hit 30 FPS.

Or 1280 by 1024 -1600x1024 and have 8xaa and 16x aa and still get 30-60 min FPs.

Both the 7900 series and 1950 start to suffer at high res with high AA and AF and things like ssaa enabled.

In fact the 8800 starts to get better at higher res as all the older cards start to stop working. The way the 8800 and r600 work is very different to all cards before them. They are not designed for DX9 they are kinda running in compatabilty mode till true Dx10 software arrives.

If you try and measure the GPU by its Speed alone your not going to get the right card. The GPU core speed is only part of the way it works the amount of texture pipes etc etc also count.

1950XTX
memory Bus 256-bit
8800GTX
memory bus 384-bit

1950 shaders
48 pixel
8 vertex
16 texture

8800
128 universal shaders

1950
core speed 625
memory 1800 effective

8800
core speed 575 * so the standard 880 GPu is SLOWER than the 1950! But is 70-100% faster in alsmot all games at high res. Why? the universal shaders are a big part of that.

memory effective 1800

Oblivion outdoors 1600x1024 4aa 8xaf

8800 GTX KO 41 FPS
8800 GTX 37 FPS
8800 GTS 27
1950XTX 22
7900GTX 18

So the 8800 GTX is 2x faster than the XTX.

http://tomshardware.co.uk/2007....e7.html (http://tomshardware.co.uk/2007/03/21/matchless_muscle_overclocked_8800_uk/page7.html)

This page shows GPU brand to Mobo chipset matching matters little

http://tomshardware.co.uk/2007....e8.html (http://tomshardware.co.uk/2007/04/04/does_chipset_to_gpu_matching_matter_uk/page8.html)

AMD CPU vs Intel DUO, note the figures from even the E4300 generally beat the 4600x2. i could send you links for games but most benchmarks i have seen claim the ATI cards prodices better FPS with core 2 right now than AMDx2

http://tomshardware.co.uk/2007....13.html (http://tomshardware.co.uk/2007/03/26/the_gigahertz_battle_uk/page13.html)

The 1950 XTX is a very good card, if your budget is 200 pounds its the best Dx9 card ever made. if you want DX10 compatability then go for a GTS 8800. They are faster. If you want to run at high res with everything pretty high right now only the 8800 can do that (r600 soon once its avaialble).

[Key Dutch]

gosh i realy want right now overclock my XTX and CPU for 7-10% and see how they preform, but im afried ill burne them, in stadart settings under heavy load temperature go to 43C for CPU and 60C for GPU( so if ill overclock them, my feare is, cooling system would not able stibelize temperature, right now i can run system under heavy load for 24hrs non stop for 3 days, was have no chans to chek longer)

[dirtylarrygb]

gosh i realy want right now overclock my XTX and CPU for 7-10% and see how they preform, but im afried ill burne them, in stadart settings under heavy load temperature go to 43C for CPU and 60C for GPU( so if ill overclock them, my feare is, cooling system would not able stibelize temperature, right now i can run system under heavy load for 24hrs non stop for 3 days, was have no chans to chek longer)

I've overclocked my CPU now for 10% AMD 4000 64 X1,(runs at 38c stock cooling underload) upped RAM and PCI express etc. GPU left at the EVGA Bio's of 626/1000.(runs at 62c under heavy laod) Poeple have reported daft figures of how high the 8800 can be pushed.

Lots of benchmarks have show anything below a E6600 bottlenecks the 8800 by upto 30% even the AMD 62FX and 5000x2 etc. The Core Duos are just alot faster till AMD 's new chip hits.

The most intresting score in the above benchmarks was the Quad Core vs the Single P4 in 3D studio Max 8.

Single core 5 mins to render a scene
Quad Core 50 seconds. Which means in a application that uses all four cores they are almost 5x faster eg. Behave like a P4 12-15000!!!!!!!

[Key Dutch]

I've overclocked my CPU now for 10% AMD 4000 64 X1,(runs at 38c stock cooling underload) ***upped RAM and PCI express etc. ***GPU left at the EVGA Bio's of 626/1000.(runs at 62c under heavy laod) Poeple have reported daft figures of how high the 8800 can be pushed.

Lots of benchmarks have show anything below a E6600 bottlenecks the 8800 by upto 30% even the AMD 62FX and 5000x2 etc. ***The Core Duos are just alot faster till AMD 's new chip hits.

The most intresting score in the above benchmarks was the Quad Core vs the Single P4 in 3D studio Max 8.

Single core 5 mins to render a scene
Quad Core 50 seconds. Which means in a application that uses all four cores they are almost 5x faster eg. Behave like a P4 12-15000!!!!!!!
so what bout ***AMD AM2 Athlon 64 4600+ Windsor Core
wich is Dual core, would that CPU bottleneck the 8800 ?
P.S. http://www.amdcompare.com/us-en/desktop/details.aspx?opn=ADA4600IAA5CU

[Flasher444]

I just tried the last 158.19 Nvidia drivers to test it with SLI and ARMA and this is still shit and slower than using 1 single card.

Si when BI would take care of their customer and release a patch to using my 2 BOARDS, I'm bored to wait, and I have the feeling of loosing my money buying 2 8800 GTX to play this game !!!! http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/banghead.gif