1.05 don't works on my PC

[eziogsv]

i have upgraded my german version of Arma (buyed on line by metaboli) with the 1.05 international patch

the game now don't works in no way ***http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/banghead.gif

the PC crashes 8 times on 10 during the game setup, 2 times on 10 after a max time of 5/6 minuts...

wonderful work.... congratulations to devs!!

mobo asus P5 B
E6600 core2 processor
1 gb Corsair Xms ram
sapphire X1950Pro with the lastest 7.2 drivers

[walker]

Hi eziogsv

I guess you will be able to reply to this in 2 days.

Brifly on the matter of the 1.06 patch you refer to in your other posts. I very much doubt that 1.06 will be capable of being applied in stead of 1.05 in fact I am almost certain you will have to apply 1.05 properly before applying 1.06. That is the way most patches tend to work.

Your problem according to your post is with setup.

In all probability you are going to have to uninstall and reinstall the game then reapply the 1.05 patch.

Make sure you have no 3rd party programs such as sickboys language patcher or addons in ArmA folders when you run the patch!

Can you post up the error reports you get so we can see what is causing the error.

Nobody can help you fix it if we do not know the details of the problem.

We will need some other information:

Is your version of ArmA a down load?

What version of windows are you using? Is it windows vista?

Where did you download your patch from?

Have you checked the size of the patch is it correct? This will tell you if you have had corrupted dowload.

Double check you downloaded the correct patch I know it sounds stupid but we all make mistakes.

Either way I would suggest a fresh download of the patch from the official source.

Did you run a virus checker over the patch especially if you got it from a mirror or a bittorrent? it is probably a good idea to do so.

Are you running a virus checker at the time of the install? It probably is not causing a problem but I have seen them prevent installs and most install packages tell you to turn off virus checkers while doing setup.

Are you running any other software when doing the install? Probably a good idea to turn them off. The patch is doing a lot of work.

Those are the basics.

I will try and help you through this as I want you to have the good experience of ArmA I am having.

Kind Regards walker

[eziogsv]

here I am... sorry for my language, but I am really angry because my ArmA don't works....

the first thing to say is that I work in the world of PCs and you can be sure that my PC, made by myself with the best quality components, has a good maintenance, with the last OS and drivers updates

no viruses, troyans or worms. I use Nod32 like antivirus and my OS is XP SP2

the firs thing I made before upgrade my Arma german on line version was to uninstall my ArmA game and made a fresh new install: no problems or error messages

I really don't remember where I downloaded the firs time the file but I have downloaded another time from the hollander Armaholic mirror: both zip files have a dimension of 477.548 KB, so I think they are OK

so I have:

1) uninstalled again my ArmA game
2) deletet manually all remained ArmA folders
3) cleaned the system registry with System Mechanic
4) installed again my original game
5) installed the 1.05 patch without any problem


THE GAME DON'T WORKS!!!
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it is NOt the game that crashes, I don't return to the desktop: is the whole OS that crashes during the game setup or at maximun after few minuts... and after 10-15 seconds of black screen the PC restarts

waiting for new inputs...........

[Dwarden]

just in case, you got any .dmp files (with day date equal to crash situation) in C:\Windows\Minidump\

?

[-=MaVerick=-]

I dont think that ArmA is the problem here, this sounds more like a hardware related problem. Arma just got the great ability to uncover those problems where other games dont care http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

You said that your PC reboots automaticly after some time so I would suggest that you check your RAM first. There are a few freeware RAM checkers floating around in WWW.

[Desertfox]

I smell an overheating problem.

Check FSB, CPU and GPU temperature and perform a burn-in test with Sisoft "SANDRA".

Additionally, you should describe your problem better. First you say how the patch can not be applied, then you say how the game can not be started, now you say the whole PC restarts after a couple of minutes playing ( ?! )

*EDIT* Something got me confused about the patch. Sorry.

[eziogsv]

just in case, you got any .dmp files (with day date equal to crash situation) in C:\Windows\Minidump\

?
I have not folders with this name or similar name in c:\windows.... and no .dmp files generated from ArmA in the whole c:\

[eziogsv]

...First you say how the patch can not be applied, then you say how the game can not be started, now you say the whole PC restarts after a couple of minutes playing ( ?! )

Are we missing something else ?..........
perhaps my english is not so good, but I really can't read in my posts what you say...

I never said that the patch can not be applied, and it's true that the game can not be started: it is because the PC crashes...

obviously I intend that a game that crashes in 2 minuts is a game that don't starts: just the time to see the initial images and, sometimes, the menu: this is for you a game that starts?http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/huh.gif

[Desertfox]

I already said I misread the thing with the patch.

And actually there is a huge difference between your game not starting, and your game crashing after 2 minutes. Trust me.

- Does your game always crash at exactly the same point ? When the first splash screens go away and it will show you the menu with the water in the background ?

- Did you do the test I suggested in my previous post ?

*EDIT* I read all your posts again, and you simply confuse me.

- Does your game run for 2-6 minutes now ? 6 Minutes means you can play sometimes ? No ?

- You initially say it "won't start" 8 out of 10 times. Does that mean you can play 2 in 10 times without problems ?

I'm getting a headache. You are not French are you ?

[W0lle]

Disable the 'automatically restart after crash' option in your control panel.

On next system crash you should get the good old blue screen. Check which program, dll or driver caused the crash.

[eziogsv]

I dont think that ArmA is the problem here, this sounds more like a hardware related problem. Arma just got the great ability to uncover those problems where other games dont care ***http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

You said that your PC reboots automaticly after some time so I would suggest that you check your RAM first. There are a few freeware RAM checkers floating around in WWW.
I have runned Memtest for some hours... the Ram feels good (obviously, I think: are two Corsair XMS2 memories tested in twinks)

>Arma just got the great ability to uncover those
>problems where other games dont care ***http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

great ability?http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/huh.gif?http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/huh.gif?http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/huh.gif?

buying ArmA I thinked to buy a GAME, not a HW STRESS TESTER ***http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

all my other games (America's Army, BF2 Project Reality, Battleground Europe etc.) works perfectly without the minimum problem: I think that this happens simply because them have a good game code, and Arma a not well tested game code, that has to be revised... that's all

[eziogsv]

Disable the 'automatically restart after crash' option in your control panel.

On next system crash you should get the good old blue screen. Check which program, dll or driver caused the crash.
MIRACLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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following your request (I don't know if you intended this) I have disabled the VPU recover from the Ati Catalist Control Center

now the game works, and I can play without problems

even the graphic card now, without the VPU recover, heats less than before

I think that BIS have to inform the Ati Support of this issue

****edit***

oppss, I spoked too early: the game crashes again, but after 30-40 minutes

well, 30-40 minutes are better than 2 minutes

hoping in future patches, both brom Bis than from Ati

[-=MaVerick=-]

Better then nothing I guess.
Did you get any error messages when the game crashed?

[Max Power]

There is a problem with the 7.2 drivers. ATI are aware of this.

[eziogsv]

Better then nothing I guess.
Did you get any error messages when the game crashed?
no, because IS NOT the game that crashes, but the whole PC: I don't return to the desktop, but after some seconds of black screen the PC restarts

now I have disabled the 'automatically restart after crash' option in the control panel... this evening I will see if I will get some error messages

[eziogsv]

There is a problem with the 7.2 drivers. ***ATI are aware of this.
... and with the 7.1 too

I tried to install the old 6.8, but with my X1950Pro the 6.8 gives a lot of problems both in 2D than in 3D... I have reinstalled the 7.2, so that the only problems remains ArmA

[-=MaVerick=-]

Just to make sure...
First your PC rebooted itself after 2-3 min, and now after 30-40 min?
'Cause i ment the 30-40 min crash in my last post.

[eziogsv]

Just to make sure...
First your PC rebooted itself after 2-3 min, and now after 30-40 min?
yes, I confirm

after to have disabled the VPU recover from the CCC, now the PC creashes after 30-40 minutes

more, the graphic card, that with the VPU recover enabled went to 90 celsius degrees in few seconds, now remains between 75-80 degrees

incredible, I know, but it is so...

I am not happy, obviously: the game haven't to crash never, but better of first...

[eziogsv]

Disable the 'automatically restart after crash' option in your control panel.

On next system crash you should get the good old blue screen. Check which program, dll or driver caused the crash.

well, I did

I have disabled the 'automatically restart after crash' option in my control panel

but after the usual crash I don't see blue screens, only the usual black screen: the only difference is that the PC don't restarts

after a new manual restart in the %SystemRoot% I can't find any Minidump folder or any .dmp file, so that I really don't know how to find the error

sorry, I tried

[stabiz]

Is your system overclocked?

[eziogsv]

Is your system overclocked?
absolutely not

core duo E6600, card X1950Pro and ram Corsair Xms2 Pc6400... I think that my system can work well even without overclock

[stabiz]

Strange, I have fairly similar system, and no crashing.

[-=MaVerick=-]

80°C sounds pretty hot to me, but being a Nvidia fanboy I dont know that much about ATI's 1950 series.
You may take a look at the GPU fan and clean it a bit if nessesary. Maybe Arma is stressing your Grafic card to much and it gets to hot, causing your PC freeze and restart.

...Thats all i can think of atm, need coffee.

[karantan]

I think your thinking is a spot on -=MaVerick=-, this


I don't return to the desktop, but after some seconds of black screen the PC restarts

looks very much like an overheating problem.

[eziogsv]

me too initially thinked that was an overheating problem, so
I asked on the sapphire forum, and someone answered to me that until 90 celsius degrees there are not problems for the X1950Pro

and now, once disabled the VPU recover, the card rarely goes over the 80 celsius degrees

so, at this point, I think (or, better, I hope) that the problems are two:

1) http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin....t=58542 (http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard311/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=68;t=58542)

2) the ArmA code that is very far to be properly optimized

waiting for new ati drivers and a 1.06 patch ***http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/whistle.gif

[-=MaVerick=-]

Just to make sure again..
When did you check your temperature? In Windows or while playing a game with high hardware requirements?

Im asking because Im beginning to think that karantan is absolutely right here, this all sounds very much like an overheating problem.
And just cause someone told you that 90°C are OK you shouldnt count on it.

Like I said in my last post, check the Fan, see if wheres dust or some other stuff in it, clean it if nessesary, check if it runs correctly and see if it helps.
If everythings right with your GPU fan you can still wait etc.
But you should make sure cause you actually can loose your card with that kind of problem...and I think an X1950 is pretty expensive, isnt it?

[Jack-UK]

Let me check something...

The X1950 PRO has two molar connectors on it.. have you got BOTH plugged in? Otherwise the card wont get enuff power...

EDIT: also make sure the power comes directly from the PSU. That card is a hungry beast :P I had restarting problems till i did this...

[eziogsv]

Just to make sure again..
When did you check your temperature? In Windows or while playing a game with high hardware requirements?
leaving open the Catalyst Control Center overdrive window and alt+tabbing from the game to the CCC and viceversa

[eziogsv]

Let me check something...

The X1950 PROhas two molar connectors on it.. have you got BOTH plugged in? Otherwise the card wont get enuff power...

EDIT: also make sure the power comes directly from the PSU. That card is a hungry beast :P I had restarting problems till i did this...
the X1950Pro PCI has only one additional molex

http://www.sapphiretech.com/en/productfiles/168image3.jpg

my ANTEC TP3-550 EC TRUEPOWER TRIO 550W ATX12V 2.2 SLI READY PFC has a dedicated molex for the graphic cards and I used obviously it

[otreblA_SNAKE_[ITA]]

Hi, I have same problem: whit the version 1.08 + Hotfix. My video card is a Radeon x1650pro AGP 8x, my power supply is a 350w and my ram is 1gb. Why my pc restarts after 2 (good) playing minutes? Do you think too me I need disable the VPU recover?