Arma Navy

[Boomer1985]

I decided to go further with my Ticonderoga! I like to implement more naval vessels into ArmA and that's why i'm asking you:

What ships do you want to have?

Feel free to post any idea and we'll see if it's possible to make.

Additionally i'm looking for experienced Texture Artists and Scripters!!!

[Serclaes]

How about some fast attack boats or the russian equivalent to the ticonderoga?

[Col. Faulkner]

A 1936 Tribal class destroyer, please!   http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

edit: seriously, some small boats would be good and
quite useful, not all just big ships.

[klavan]

Fully functional ships for amphibiuos operations like Tarawa, Wasp, Harpes Ferry and so on.
Klavan

[Stewy]

I think that given the cool Zodiac, that it'd be great to have a surfaced submarine, or maybe just a submarine sail that can be used for 'middle of the night' commando insertions.

Just my 2c http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[Foxhound]

Small landing vessels to bring troops up to the beach.

And maybe just for some great intro's.........a submarine.
You dont really have to make it a working one, if it could be just moving through the water and dive you will see me smile http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

[edit]Stewy beat me to it http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[Foxhound]

http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif
Double post

[Col. Faulkner]

I was going to suggest a submarine too! I'm going to do one
for my planned "mini-mod" (but it'll be a WW2 British boat and
therefore of interest to almost nobody on here http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif )

[Serclaes]

I think that given the cool Zodiac, that it'd be great to have a surfaced submarine, or maybe just a submarine sail that can be used for 'middle of the night' commando insertions.

Just my 2c http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
It's rahter unlikely a modern sub will surface to insert special forces. The new Seawolf Class (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seawolf_class_submarine) was designed to transport SEAL operators instead of torpedoes (and they are inserting llike torpedos or cruise missiles through the tubes). So you will never see the sub and only maybe the SEALs when they reached land. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[Ironsight]

Fully functional ships for amphibiuos operations like Tarawa, Wasp, Harpes Ferry and so on.
Klavan
I am working on an LPD17 http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[-HUNTER-]

big ass battleship

high speed navy seal attack boat

[MattXR]

Some Big Battleships with huge multiple guns ^^ for Arty http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif People will totally buy the game then http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif just think power http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

[Connors]

Frigates like the HMS Belfast perhaps.

A rowing boat might be nice.

[Helping_Hand]

the proper belfast would be better not a pocksy frigate 12 6inch guns are better than one 4 inch

[ukr-man]

Ukrainian "Zubr"
http://fleet.sebastopol.ua/morskaderzhava/articles/pics/p1093873232

Corvet "Ternopil"

http://rivok.org.ua/forums....&id=229 (http://rivok.org.ua/forums/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=229)

[Renegade Commando]

Mark V PBR, HSV-2 Swift and Pegasus class PHMs, the latter was retired from service back in '93 and sold in '96 (perhaps the Sharani navy bought them). And the LCAC if the game engine is able to handle it.

[blackdog~]

I'd like a pedal boat with a 50 cal and a plentiful supply of hand grenades.

http://www.surfacezero.com/span/pedalboat.gif

Perfect for any rebl force.

[klavan]

I'd like a pedal boat with a 50 cal and a plentiful supply of hand grenades.

[mg]http://www.surfacezero.com/span/pedalboat.gif[/img]

Perfect for any rebl force.
Brilliant! http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

@<hidden>
Very good news&#33; http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/thumbs-up.gif

Something else that may be usefull: RO/RO ships like this (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/cape-k.htm)
Klavan

[havocsquad]

Needed list for ArmA ships not mentioned already:


US
Arliegh Burke DDG (1 or 2 models available for this)
Oliver Hazard Perry (model available from OFP addon)
Sacremento AOE
- its a resupply ship
Nimitz CVN (model available from OFP addon)
Newport LST
LSD, forgot the classification name.
Improved LA SSN
Seawolf SSN
Virgina SSN
Ohio SSBN/SSGN


Russia

Sovernmeny DDG (High priority)
Slava CG (High priority)
Krivak FFG
Grisha FFL
Kirov CGN (low priority)
Akula I/II SSN
Typhoon SSBN (High priority)
Delta IV SSBN
Kilo SSK

LPD, (will find classification name soon)
Alligator LST

Will update this list as soon as I get more information.

[OIK]

GUys i like the idea creating ships but i believe that the sea is not large enough for naval warfare. Maybe if there were two large islands with ports with some distance between eachother.

So i guess a new map with two different islands maybe could do the job.

THats my opinion , in OFP i never used naval vessels maybe its time for it now.

Cheers

[Boomer1985]

First off i think about ships as an operation base...
Maybe if new maps are release we could realize some navy battles...
Ah by the way i contacted gnat b/c he&#39;s going to port his ofp ships over to arma... maybe we can make a naval combat pack together or whatever... depends on him...

regards boomer

[klavan]

@<hidden>

You&#39;re right: that&#39;s why I think the most usefull ships would be the ones who may be used to support ground operations. Large aircraft carriers and similar are nice for example, but like the ones who were created for OFP they were mostly used as subjects for the CP thread....
My 2 cents.
Klavan

[Boomer1985]

For example my Ticonderoga will be a static object first for fire support and helicopter operations... we&#39;ll see what comes out http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif For real navy battles the actual maps are too small...

[ag_smith]

Mark V SOC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_V_SOC) would be an addition I&#39;d love to see. Much more useful for ARMA than all those big ships.

[AfrographX]

Speaking of Littoral Warfare....


Ropucha


Quote[/b] ]The Project 775 Ropucha Large Landing Ship (Bol&#39;shoy Desatnyy Korabl&#39; BDK) is a beachable, general-purpose LST-type design with bow and stern ramps for unloading vehicles. A slightly smaller successor to the Alligator class, they were all built in Poland three distinct production runs. The last three units were an improved version with some variations in detail. Many have been retired, and remaining units may be in reserve, given the Russian Navy&#39;s decreased emphasis on amphibious operations.

Given the designation Large Landing Ship, the Ropucha class of tank landing ship was produced in Poland for the Soviet Navy. designed for roll-on, roll-off operations, the Ropucha design has both bow and stern doors, and the 630 square metres of vehicle deck stretches the length of the hull. The multi level supersturcture is designed to house two companies of naval infantry for extended periods. This, together with a 450 ton cargo capacity and the ability to carry 24 armoured vehicles, allowed the Soviet navy to employ the vessels on distant ocean operations. The collapse of the Soviet Union meant that capability was unlikely to be needed by Russia and the Ukraine, which inherited most of the ships of this class.

The class is not particularly well-characterized in the literature, and while all indicated names and numbers have been reported, the association of designations with the construction chronology is entirely conjectural, apart from the three Project 775M units. Although only 22 units have been identified through names or hull numbers, the production shipyard is quite specific that a total of 28 were produced.

Crew: 98 crew + 225 marines + tracks + tanks
Armament:
Missiles: 4 x 8 Strela (SS-N-3)
Grad missile system
Guns: 2 x 2 AK-726 DP (2 x 76 mm)
2 x 6 AK-630 gattl. AA
(6 x 30 mm; r: 6&#39;000rds/m/mount)
1 AK-176 (76 mm)
Cargo: 482 tons, approx 230 troops


Classification: Bol&#39;shoy Desatnyy Korabl&#39; (BDK); Large Landing Ship.

http://lenny.liquid-skill.de/s_rop_01.jpg

http://lenny.liquid-skill.de/s_rop_02.jpg

[Boomer1985]

This looks great afr&#33;
What&#39;s about the Polycount? any infos on that?

@<hidden>: i already had your ship in my mind and some info material on my desk... this would be very usefull i think...

[[APS]Gnat]

Much more useful for ARMA than all those big ships.
lol   http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif  to you too Mr Smith http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
As you might guess ... I disagree, ArmA is *much* more suited to anything at sea, be it big, small, armed, unarmed, moving or stationary.

[AfrographX]

~10.000 Vertices and ~15.000 Faces

[havocsquad]

GUys i like the idea creating ships but i believe that the sea is not large enough for naval warfare. Maybe if there were two large islands with ports with some distance between eachother.

So i guess a new map with two different islands maybe could do the job.

THats my opinion , in OFP i never used naval vessels maybe its time for it now.

Cheers

He heh he he, you&#39;ve never played a 1 vs 1 multiplayer Fleet Command scenario (modern naval war strategy) with multiple ships with heavy firepower fighting at knifefight ranges (20 miles or less).  Many of these battles are extremely fast, complex, and intense.

That&#39;s more than small enough to fit in the "box"  that is the size limit for OFP maps.

[teaser]

suicide bombers anyone?
or how about the pilots.... with the parachutes... or maybe the..fbI? lol http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/whistle.gif

[teaser]

ooOOOOHH how about a hover craft? huh? huh? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

[ag_smith]

Gnat @<hidden> Jan. 07 2007,11:33)]
Much more useful for ARMA than all those big ships.
lol http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif to you too Mr Smith http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
As you might guess ... I disagree, ArmA is *much* more suited to anything at sea, be it big, small, armed, unarmed, moving or stationary.
Nah, you sir, are absolutely biased&#33; http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

I haven&#39;t said big ships are useless, but just look at that sexy SOC... with all these multiple turrets, it&#39;s just asking to be improted to arma http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[Punisher_1509]

Some Navy Units would be great&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

A Tawara Class ship would be cool too&#33;

From there you could start a Special operation&#33;

I would prefered the Navy Seals they are outstanding&#33;&#33;

Here an example for such a unit.


http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6983/pict0011vj4.jpg[/CODE]

[Punisher_1509]

Here is another example for a Navy Seal Unit for ArmA.



http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/4050/30pj5un0.jpg[CODE]


What do you think about such units??

[cobra@pulse]

IB Code mate, use the options for IB code for image mate, much easier: (Btw, its over 100kb so you cant post it as an image, must be a link)

Looks like:
<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr><td>Code Sample </td></tr><tr><td id="CODE">&#91;IMG&#93;http&#58;//img341.imageshack.us/img341/6983/pict0011vj4.jpg&#91;/IMG&#93;[/QUOTE]

On topic, Landing ships are a must as some landings would be brilliant in ArmA

[teaser]

i dont get it, what so good about navy sealss, like, whats the hype. please explain.. i wanna be hyped also =D

[MattXR]

i dont get it, what so good about navy sealss, like, whats the hype. please explain.. i wanna be hyped also =D
Yeah lets talk SAS.. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/pistols.gif

Yeah id love to see some big ships in arma to see there Firepower.. muahaha.. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rofl.gif also like to see that Dock Landing Ship too http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

[teaser]

hmmm, add GIGN, maybe an easteregg model 1337 from cs source (hate that game, love armA) and also add SAS and urban riot control. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/pistols.gif

[=JpS=SgtRock]

I posted this thought in gnat&#39;s thread as well. There are several guys working on larger ships. What&#39;s missing are the small craft; patrol boats, landing craft, and the like. I&#39;ve been watching R. Lee Ermey chew up the scenery lately on "Mail Call", and I&#39;ve gotten a thirst to see some coastal naval action. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/whistle.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/xmas_o.gif

[TOOMSKI2000]

Have to agree with sarge rock here, we need the smaller stuff for more fun times, stuff like PBR, Gemini, Rigid raider etc but saying that i love the Soviet Aist class hovercraft and i would love to see that in Arma so we could drive it onto the beach and disgorge the vehicles and men it can carry http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/pistols.gif

[NoRailgunner]

some suggestions http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
RoRo ships and gator freighters and amphibs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphibious_assault_ship) would be very usefull to reinforce and strengthen combined arms formations (armored division XX)

[wolfbite]

Hms Bulwark looks pretty hench

[shark-attack]

a two man canoe for small scale insertions .. or from where raids on larger ships can be launched .. a la cockleshell heros

[gL33k]

maybe a ship with a chopper landpad, and ....

this on it .
http://www.usswisconsin.org/Picture....ing.jpg (http://www.usswisconsin.org/Pictures/1980-90%20pic/220%20M.%20Bowers%20%20SH3%20Seahawk%20Landing.jpg)


SH3 ship killer. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rofl.gif

[wolfbite]

Maybe people should find pictures of an actual navy seal and stop posting that doll around?... Oh yeah should release your ka-29

[Boomer1985]

@<hidden> Actually i&#39;m planning to modify the UH60 that already ships with ArmA as soon as the tools are released to model a Seahawk out of it&#33; As the Seahawk is just a midified Blackhawk it&#39;s easier that way b/c the ingame Blackhawk is modeled pretty good so it&#39;s not necessary to remodel the whole thing...

[charonos]

@<hidden>:

EXCELLENT&#33;

That is so needed for the destroyers
for LAMPS missions. I was considering making one for my destroyers,
but now that you do it, me and others can concentrate on their ships.

[lukemax]

Template Config, any around to base copy some/most ships from OFP over? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/whistle.gif

[CBFASI]

some suggestions http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
RoRo ships and gator freighters and amphibs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphibious_assault_ship) would be very usefull to reinforce and strengthen combined arms formations (armored division XX)
Most of the Falklands ships including Ro-Ro&#39;s, amphibs, Destoryers, Light Carriers will either be rebuilt or converted for ArmA...

Also a few new ships such as Ocean and some older WW2 ships suitable for both raiding or NGS, (larger shisp iwll be statics currently, but smaller under 250ft will move&#33http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[Zarele]

I was thinking of fishermanships,some nice yacht like in baywatch and stuff, and oh oh you have got to put in a kanoe for nice camping tripes.
seriusly.

[lukemax]

some suggestions http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
RoRo ships and gator freighters and amphibs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphibious_assault_ship) would be very usefull to reinforce and strengthen combined arms formations (armored division XX)
Most of the Falklands ships including Ro-Ro&#39;s, amphibs, Destoryers, Light Carriers will either be rebuilt or converted for ArmA...

Also a few new ships such as Ocean and some older WW2 ships suitable for both raiding or NGS, (larger shisp iwll be statics currently, but smaller under 250ft will move&#33http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
Yeah, but they will never be released http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

[Major Gripe]

some suggestions http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
RoRo ships and gator freighters and amphibs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphibious_assault_ship) would be very usefull to reinforce and strengthen combined arms formations (armored division XX)
Most of the Falklands ships including Ro-Ro&#39;s, amphibs, Destoryers, Light Carriers will either be rebuilt or converted for ArmA...

Also a few new ships such as Ocean and some older WW2 ships suitable for both raiding or NGS, (larger shisp iwll be statics currently, but smaller under 250ft will move&#33http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
Yeah, but they will never be released http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
You do know that a pack of Falklands ships was released for OFP?&#33;

I don&#39;t think there is anyone in the community who would rather have some buggy shitty model released quickly rather than a detailed bug free addon that will obviously take time to complete.

[Baff1]

Fast patrol hovercraft sound fun.

[CBFASI]

Quote[/b] ]I was thinking of fishermanships,some nice yacht like in baywatch and stuff, and oh oh you have got to put in a kanoe for nice camping tripes.
seriusly.

Bit like this one? (early trials&#33http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

http://www.cbfasi.co.uk/PicsCBF-A/ARMA0003.jpg
http://www.cbfasi.co.uk/PicsCBF-A/ARMA0004.jpg


Quote[/b] ]Yeah, but they will never be released  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

Thankfully I wll be taking a very different approach than was taken with Falk, and it many ways much of the very hard work is already done, the research and the building of the models, although in a number of cases new models will be built due to much much better referance material (like actaul plans rather than just pics).

Release wont be quick but it wont be a matter of waiting for the whole lot before release, it will be one at time releases, with support being on-going.

I hope that within a couple of months of the proper tools I might be able to release the above motor yacht, which was based on the &#39;White Knight&#39; from Virtual Sailor (it&#39;s also a real ship&#33http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif (it had multiple 10k&#39;s polys so was quicker to rebuild using that as a planning guide), new model now under 5k.

Most of Falks ships need new textures (due to to not being UV mapped etc) and also underwater hulls to be added (in fact some the latest models have had it built and cut off for the OFP versions, such as HMS Plymouth) My primary nation will be UK Both Reb and White ensigns.


Back on Boomers Topic..

I would vessels that often have a direct nvolvement wth land operations, either as a floating base or those used to get from that base to shore.  To be honest that can covere pretty much any type of naval vessel including the auxilleries as even these can be tasked to put peackeepers etc ashore, just think nice big Sacrementao tanker landing troops ashore by helicopter or launch&#39;s, or say a naval tug that just happens to be in the area.  I would say go for those that you can get good referance material for.

[Commando84]

sweet yacht there&#33; http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/inlove.gif really suits Sahransi setting so damn fine. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/thumbs-up.gif looks almost like you can run up onboard the deck from the wood dock too.

[lukemax]

Now thats a sweet looking yacht there matey&#33; http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/thumbs-up.gif

Thats exactly what this game needs anyway&#33;

MORE SHIPS&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; bring em in&#33;

[nastros]

nuclear missile launching sub

[Pathetic_Berserker]

Im looking at doing a &#39;ST Diesel Tug&#39;. So far I&#39;ve collected a bunch of reference pics and a model I&#39;d ordered arrived in the post about an hr ago.I thought it would make a good first boat to model, so its deffinately a way off yet

These sort of Tugs were made during WW2 in large numbers and used in Korea and Vietnam and can still be found in many harbours today.

[BadBrad]

Would love to see the MTB Skjold class, you can find facts about and more pictures here:

http://images.google.no/imgres?....rl=http (http://images.google.no/imgres?imgurl=http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/europe/images/skjold-03.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/europe/skjold.htm&h=390&w=630&sz=38&hl=no&start=24&tbnid=VPJA_YDKvTYq8M:&tbnh=85&tbnw=137&prev=/images%3Fq%3DKNM%2BSkjold%26start%3D18%26ndsp%3D18%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Dno%26sa%3DN)

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/europe/images/skjold-03.jpg

Another great addition for rapid insertion on land with special forces could be http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_Boat_90

at the end of this movie you see how fast it goes down in speed and are able to insert troops fast.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=A-8NHfAYEK8

[Hellfish6]

At the risk of using too much common sense, how about before somebody makes all this crap that we can&#39;t use for anything more than cutscenes (like SSBNs, SSNs, Aegis cruisers, etc) maybe everyone could benefit from the small stuff - fishing trawlers, tramp steamers, small tankers, small container ships, etc. that you&#39;d actually see on a place like Sahrani?

Otherwise if you REALLY want combat ships, I&#39;d think frigates, corvettes and amphibs would be best suited and most widely used in Arma. Take a clue from the Falklands team. They know what they&#39;re doing.

[Shashman]

I agree. So many requests. Let&#39;s learn to walk before we start running eh http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/icon_rolleyes.gif
Start with the small, simple, FUNCTIONAL things ArmA could use. Why would we want a Swedish stealth ship for example? (rhetorical question btw)

[Corkey]

I have read several posts regarding interest in the Mark V SOC. Has anyone made a commitment to creating this craft? If not, I may consider making one for ARMA.

[Zarele]

Rely nice yacht.
cant wait to hang with my hommies and somme nice chiqas in bikini. Is it possible to walk around on it like a building?

[CBFASI]

Iwill be opening a topic on for my own creations in te not to distant furture where questions such as that just posed wil be answered.

I think it wise to try to keep to Boomers original topic which was about what vessels you would like him to work on and also a request for textures and scripters to help.

[Commando84]

just out of curiosity is there are small coast patrol boats worked on that are counter to the US RHIB with turrets boat? for the east and independent sides? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

[USMC NEEDER]

What&#39;s your progress on these, can you release what you got finished? (lol i really want these and the desert marpat http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif )

[arigram]

I think,
fishing boats,
speed boats,
jet skis
and landing craft
would be most useful in a game like ArmA, especially considering that the focus is infantry combat and ships that can be used in combination with infantry operations would be best.
I wouldn&#39;t mind seing the Zubr monster though...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zubr/Pomornik_%28LCAC%29

[USMC NEEDER]

That&#39;s pretty cool&#33; my bro told me about that and i didn&#39;t know what it looked like..... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rofl.gif . But i want a big boat, could you imagine it in the Sea on Arma?

[Shashman]

jet skis
What for?

The Costa Del Sol mod? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/huh.gif

[USMC NEEDER]

LOL&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

[PeterEyres]

HMS Illustrious with Harriers and Apaches on board http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

[Frederf]

Orange tiny lift rafts for downed pilots&#33; Maybe with a smoke grenade or dye launcher.

[wackywhiffin]

a much larger landing boat that can take a car or tank (light one like a stryker) on instead of people, or take people

[USMC NEEDER]

Update please?

[Abs]

Pretty sure he&#39;ll update when he has something to update with. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/mad_o.gif

Abs

[Profe]

jet skis
What for?

The Costa Del Sol mod? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/huh.gif
Why not? we already have a tractor.