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Soldaat
Dec 5 2006, 20:57
No clue why.
And changing settings doesnt matter much if at all.

It's mostly running at 10-15 fps.

Shuttle SN25p
Got 3700+ overclocked to 2.8 ghz.
7800GT 256mb
2 gig memory

Resolution: 1680x1050
Even when I change view distance to 500 meters or set all settings on very low quality its still piss poor!

Cant play it to be honest like this.
Looks nice the game I must say. Gun sights are very ugly though.

Other games run fast.

Sentralia
Dec 5 2006, 20:58
Your either a troll, or you didn't download the recent patch.

Soldaat
Dec 5 2006, 21:06
Got it patched.
Am serious. Must be something wrong http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif

Borg
Dec 5 2006, 21:20
Check for spyware, virus, clean your computer of unnecessary files, put the resolution of your desktop down.

THAT gives you a very good performance boost, IF those above is causing the slowdown ! http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/goodnight.gif

hoz
Dec 5 2006, 21:24
moving to TS

twisted
Dec 5 2006, 21:25
you might try truning the ingame resolution down. I've got a similar system and play it at 1028x768 and it runs very nice and smoothly with all the settings (except AA really) at normal or high.

WhoCares
Dec 5 2006, 21:27
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Shuttle SN25p
Got 3700+ overclocked to 2.8 ghz.
7800GT 256mb
2 gig memory

Resolution: 1680x1050
Even when I change view distance to 500 meters or set all settings on very low quality its still piss poor!
...
I guess you are running an a widescreen TFT, so I know it it is not really a good option, but have you tried to lower your resolution, preferably to 1024x768. I know, as it is not the native resolution of your display it will look bad, but just to check for performance it might be worth a try.

rev
Dec 5 2006, 21:28
I get crap performance also.

Cant believe it, been waiting for so long to play and i cant even run it smooth on very low.

Intel Pentium 4 - HT, 3200 MHz (3.2) (16 x 200)
Gigabyte GA-8I848PM (3 PCI, 1 AGP, 2 DDR DIMM, Audio, LAN)
Microsoft XP Windows Home Edition SP2
1024 MB (PC2700 DDR SDRAM)
Intel 82801EB ICH5 - AC'97 Audio Controller [A-2/A-3]
ST3160021A (160 GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/100)
NEC DVD_RW ND-3500AG (DVD+R9:4x, DVD+RW:16x/4x, DVD-RW:16x/4x, DVD-ROM:16x, CD:48x/24x/48x DVD+RW/DVD-RW)
nVIDIA Gainward GeForce 6600 GT AGP 128mb

Sentralia
Dec 5 2006, 21:33
I get crap performance also.

Cant believe it, been waiting for so long to play and i cant even run it smooth on very low.

Intel Pentium 4 - HT, 3200 MHz (3.2) (16 x 200)
Gigabyte GA-8I848PM (3 PCI, 1 AGP, 2 DDR DIMM, Audio, LAN)
Microsoft XP Windows Home Edition SP2
1024 MB (PC2700 DDR SDRAM)
Intel 82801EB ICH5 - AC'97 Audio Controller [A-2/A-3]
ST3160021A (160 GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/100)
NEC DVD_RW ND-3500AG (DVD+R9:4x, DVD+RW:16x/4x, DVD-RW:16x/4x, DVD-ROM:16x, CD:48x/24x/48x DVD+RW/DVD-RW)
nVIDIA Gainward GeForce 6600 GT AGP 128mb
You need a new video card. The minimum is the 6800, IIRC, plus your card is AGP, which sucks. I would go with the 7600, for around $120. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

Check this out: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130017

rev
Dec 5 2006, 21:40
Your not only telling me to get a card but a whole new system i hope you know. I dont have the money to upgrade to PCI.

Sentralia
Dec 5 2006, 21:43
Your not only telling me to get a card but a whole new system i hope you know. I dont have the money to upgrade to PCI.
I guess your stuck with poor performance, until you get some money then, right? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

Soldaat
Dec 5 2006, 21:46
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Shuttle SN25p
Got 3700+ overclocked to 2.8 ghz.
7800GT 256mb
2 gig memory

Resolution: 1680x1050
Even when I change view distance to 500 meters or set all settings on very low quality its still piss poor!
...
I guess you are running an a widescreen TFT, so I know it it is not really a good option, but have you tried to lower your resolution, preferably to 1024x768. I know, as it is not the native resolution of your display it will look bad, but just to check for performance it might be worth a try.
Had it running at 1024x768 at start which did looked ugly but performance wasnt really better, perhaps 3-5 fps better.

What does this game needs most? videocard or processing power?
Will try a new install and see how that goes.

Millenium7
Dec 5 2006, 22:04
You need a new video card. The minimum is the 6800, IIRC, plus your card is AGP, which sucks. I would go with the 7600, for around $120. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
Thats the recommended and a 6600GT flogs the bejesus out of a 6800. I'm running an XP2800, 1gb ram and a 6600GT and I get better performance than some running high end systems. I also get little drop in performance on high as opposed to very low. I'm not affected at all by trees and other things which cause other more powerful computers to die. It needs a lot of work in the performance area, until faster computers actually run faster and higher settings run slower the posted specs don't mean anything.

Bugsfrombis
Dec 5 2006, 22:51
6600 isnt not minimum the geforce fx series is wich are fx 5200 and on

Bugsfrombis
Dec 5 2006, 22:52
make sure you have latest motherboard chipset drivers and video drivers put all nvidia settings to application controled

slip777
Dec 5 2006, 23:43
I've noticed a slight performance boost after the new patch. I used to get 10-15 FPS on normal settings, after this patch I get a stable 25-30.

I have an AMD 3500+, GeForce 6600 256mb, and 1gb ram. One thing i've noticed is that your resolution has a great performance effect on your game. Try lowering it and see what happens.

killerwhale
Dec 6 2006, 00:14
The game needs serious improvements.

Chipper
Dec 6 2006, 02:03
AMD 3000+ XP
1GB DDR RAM
AGP GeForce XFX 7800GS 256mb

I been reading around and I seem to be getting worse preformance than people with a 6600 or 6800.

Is it my processor?

Some guy mentioned installing ArmA on a clean windows partion helps preformance but how do I do that?

Klicky
Dec 9 2006, 21:57
Take your game and throw it in the trash and go buy Batlefield 2

Soldaat
Dec 9 2006, 22:06
Take your game and throw it in the trash and go buy Batlefield 2
Nah, I stick with red orchestra for now and wait future patches.

This game really still got performance issues.... for now.

Eidron
Dec 9 2006, 23:38
Games works fine for me. Make sure you have the latest drivers.

For the guy with the AGP slot you can buy an x1600 for around Ł70.

Dudester
Dec 10 2006, 17:12
Take your game and throw it in the trash and go buy Batlefield 2
Nah, I stick with red orchestra for now and wait future patches.

This game really still got performance issues.... for now.
Battlefield 2 has more bugs then an Ant hill. Red orchestra just sucks big time, all these 2 games have going for them is that they don't lagg like this game. I just hope BIS keep to there word about getting 100 people on one severs at one time. Its early days so i'll judge them in 6 months time. Also i would say installing a game on a partion would make it run slower.

Spartan2E
Dec 10 2006, 17:42
After reading this thread I'm getting a bit scared. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif
Got:
6600GT(believe 128mb)AGP(yes, AGP sucks)
Pentium 4 2.40GHz
768mb RAM
MS Windows XP Proffesional
SP 2

Will I even be able to run the game normally?

rev
Dec 10 2006, 17:45
^ after much tweaking ive been able to get playable settings on low give me your msn if you want my ini.

Lee_H._Oswald
Dec 10 2006, 17:46
Will I even be able to run the game normally?
Maybe.

BIS should know, better ask them.

MfG Lee

somebloke
Dec 10 2006, 17:58
Judging by the fact a lot of people are able to run the game smoothly on both high and low spec systems. It's more likely a system problem than a game problem, try altering your settings, and resolution, and clean up the hard drive.

Also try Ctrl + Alt + delete and check if something is eating your CPU.

Norsu
Dec 10 2006, 18:10
Judging by the fact a lot of people are able to run the game smoothly on both high and low spec systems. It's more likely a system problem than a game problem, try altering your settings, and resolution, and clean up the hard drive.

Also try Ctrl + Alt + delete and check if something is eating your CPU.
I wouldn't count on that. IMO there's something wrong with the foliage because even a single bush in the middle of nowhere can make your PC (low or high end) crawl when you are close to it.

Soldaat
Dec 10 2006, 19:37
Made some screenshots:

http://xs410.xs.to/xs410/06490/1arma.jpg
Above = 10 fps with these settings:
http://xs410.xs.to/xs410/06490/2arma.jpg

Then when I lower everythign and also note the 500mtrs view distance but i also used 500 above and setting it on 1200 or more isnt bad or good for my fps (no change&#33http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif.

So with very low settings i get 30fps&#33; but this is butt ugly and I got a pretty fast system (3700+ @<hidden> 2.8ghz, 2 gig memory, 7800GT 256mb).


http://xs110.xs.to/xs110/06490/3arma.jpg

low settings:
http://xs110.xs.to/xs110/06490/4arma.jpg




http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/help.gif


I guess i must live with it? or buy a 8800GT http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/band.gif

waffen-79
Dec 11 2006, 00:05
Ok now I&#39;m scared... my specs:

CPU:
Intel&reg; Pentium&reg; 4 CPU 630 3.00GHz
Hyper-Threading Technology: Yes
Intel&reg; Extended Memory 64 Technology: Yes
Intel&reg; Virtualization Technology: No
Expected Processor Frequency: 3.0 GHz
Reported Processor Frequency: 3.0 GHz
Expected System Bus Frequency: 800 MHz
Reported System Bus Frequency: 800 MHz

RAM:
Kingston DDR 1GB PC400/PC3200 CL3

MAINBOARD:
Biostar P4M800-M7A LGA775/FSB 800Mhz DDR400 AGP 8X

VIDEOCARD
MSI GeForce NX6600 256MB, AGP 8x

could I run it at Medium and 1024x768http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/huh.gif?

nubbin77
Dec 11 2006, 00:14
Soldaat,

I have the same specs as you.
Turn off the shadows and turn the textures to low.  Shadows are nice but they killed my framerate.

put the object and terrain detail to high. You should also be able to put AF to very high.

I have very good frame rates now.  I didn&#39;t before and was a little worried about the type of computer that you need to play the game.  You should be able to find a combination that works.
Also turn the shading detail down.
Game still looks good, but not as awe inspiring as possible. Get an 8800 you want it all (I&#39;m assuming, anyone own one of these?)
Also, don&#39;t forget to do the maxmem thing in the shortcut and defrag.

Deady
Dec 11 2006, 00:57
Nubbin those suggestions helped me thanks.  Textures to low and shadows off is a great help.  The game feels a lot more responsive now, and i can even turn some other options up and make it look somewhat pretty.

The impact on the textures from normal to low was hardly noticeable anyway. The FPS increase is far more noticeable than any quality decrease.

MechaStalin
Dec 11 2006, 01:40
I think you will pretty much need a PCI-E card to run this game well.

BangTail
Dec 11 2006, 04:26
No clue why.
And changing settings doesnt matter much if at all.

It&#39;s mostly running at 10-15 fps.

Shuttle SN25p
Got 3700+ overclocked to 2.8 ghz.
7800GT 256mb
2 gig memory

Resolution: 1680x1050
Even when I change view distance to 500 meters or set all settings on very low quality its still piss poor&#33;

Cant play it to be honest like this.
Looks nice the game I must say. Gun sights are very ugly though.

Other games run fast.
Other games are not trying to simulate the vast size and scale of ArmA. No game does&#33; Just play around with the settings until you get a happy medium. Post/Shader and Shadows are FPS killers. 1680 x 1050 may be a little ambitious for your rig.

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ZiggyJinx
Dec 11 2006, 10:49
Been looking forward to this game for ages now and all i need is good frame rates, i dont give a monkeys about all the other little bugs just as long as im hitting 50-60 or even higher FPS but right now im getting about 15-20 max in heavy going areas.... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/banghead.gif

I have a high end system what should walk this game with it&#39;s eyes closed.

AMD4800+X2 OPTIMIZED
NVIDIA 7800GTX&#39;S OC RUNNING SLI
2GB XMS CORSAIR RAM
HIPER 580 PS
AUDIGY 2ZS

1nsane
Dec 11 2006, 11:26
I agree, same problem...

And yes.... SLI working=same poor performance, no change.

Mr_Tea
Dec 11 2006, 13:01
I think you will pretty much need a PCI-E card to run this game well.
That is simply not right.

My 512MB AGP8X videocard on an AGP8X mainboard can handle ArmA with high settings in 1280x1024, viewdistance 1200 meters.

GeForce 7600GS 512 MB vram
AthlonXP 3200+ (Barton)
2x512 MB PC3200 Ram in Dualchannel mode
OS: Win2K Prof. SP3 http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

FantasticDamage
Dec 11 2006, 13:47
Anyone with low FPS and knows their system can handle it should reference this thread:

http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin....t=55529 (http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard311/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=68;t=55529)

I could barely run low settings with my PC
AMD 3500+
2GB RAM
7800 GTX

Once I changed this value I can now run MAX Settings with no problems.

ZiggyJinx
Dec 11 2006, 17:09
Unfortunately that does sod all for my frame rates, but others looking like they have a gain in performance so it may help some.
does anybody know when we might see another patch or heard anything from the other side of this operation saying that good things are on the horizon.

akaunionjack
Dec 11 2006, 17:55
Got the game today and well after all the hype im very sad to say i dont like what i see, visualy very nice scenery but ive seen games made 5 years ago with better weapon graphics and the sounds are terrible the humvee sounds like my milkmans float coming up the road.

any ways back to why im posting, i am new to ofp series so i could be just not used to the way things work with these games.

When i move my soldier it feels like he is stuttering around when i walk up next to a car its like he is magnetic and it can be hard to walk away from the car like i am stuck to it.

when i look left and right it feels like its hard to turn at first then all or a sudden he spins and turns fast. causing me to get motion sickness after playing for more than 10 mins.

ive turned settings down to everything normal and screen res 1024 x768

rig spec
amd am2 athlon 64 dual core 2.4ghz
2 gigs of ocz 800mhz ram
asus m2n32 sli delux mobo
Sli 2 x bfg 7900gtx o.c.
games running of a raptor drive.

If the game will always play out like this i may as well sell it as i cant stand feeling sick from playing this http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/help.gif

Stealth3
Dec 11 2006, 19:21
You might want to try the OFP demo and see how the movements work for you.

The movements are very different than ARMA and better implemented (in my opinion).
I also dislike the way they tried to simulate momentum (which by the way is done in a horrible way)

NeMeSiS
Dec 11 2006, 19:35
I also dislike the way they tried to simulate momentum (which by the way is done in a horrible way)
They didnt, try forcing vSync off in your driver settings, and set render frames ahead(nVidia)/Flip queue size(Ati) to 0.
That should sort the weird aiming feeling, and it should improve your FPS a bit.

(This is a tip for everyone, not just the people with performance problems)

Stealth3
Dec 11 2006, 19:59
Ok, thanks. I&#39;ll try it out sometimes.

SFG
Dec 11 2006, 21:20
I also dislike the way they tried to simulate momentum (which by the way is done in a horrible way)
They didnt, try forcing vSync off in your driver settings, and set render frames ahead(nVidia)/Flip queue size(Ati) to 0.
That should sort the weird aiming feeling, and it should improve your FPS a bit.

(This is a tip for everyone, not just the people with performance problems)
Where is set render frames ahead? I can&#39;t find it in the control panel.

ZiggyJinx
Dec 11 2006, 21:42
You need to install COOLBITS (http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=815)

Daveyboy1978
Dec 12 2006, 02:03
Your not only telling me to get a card but a whole new system i hope you know. I dont have the money to upgrade to PCI.
The best agp card is the ATI Radeon 1950 Pro, so get that and you wont have to upgrade your whole system.