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AUS_Twisted
Jul 7 2006, 08:09
Maybe the surprise is an update to OFP that gives us some of the scripting that will be in ArmA; so that we can get up to snuff. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
--Ben
Thats related to ArmA, it would require a patch and also Codemasters permission aswell, last time I checked BIS and Codemasters broke up awhile ago.
Not related to ArmA http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/banghead.gif
Not related to ArmA http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/banghead.gif
Not related to ArmA http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/banghead.gif
Not related to ArmA http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/banghead.gif
Not related to ArmA http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/banghead.gif
Not related to ArmA http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/banghead.gif
It also makes no sense either with ArmA almost finished.
FriketMonkey
Jul 7 2006, 08:16
I'm really wondering what it could be....
-Non Armed-Assault related... what's left then?
-OFP... No, don't think so...
....GAME 2! http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/whistle.gif
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
the only thing I see is the new O2 , didn't they say they would release it before Arma http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/yay.gif
FriketMonkey
Jul 7 2006, 08:22
Yes maby some new modding tools, so that mods already can start to convert their addons for Armed Assault... But Placebo said it had nothing to do with Armed Assault, modding tools do, or don't I don't know it anymore! http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/help.gif
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
AUS_Twisted
Jul 7 2006, 08:24
the only thing I see is the new O2 , didn't they say they would release it before Arma http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/yay.gif
But thats then related to ArmA aswell lol.
Espectro
Jul 7 2006, 10:37
the only thing I see is the new O2 , didn't they say they would release it before Arma http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/yay.gif
But thats then related to ArmA aswell lol.
Well... Anything BIS is remotely related to arma... But the release of a scripting guide or the wiki would be a good guess... Let's wait and see http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
deanosbeano
Jul 7 2006, 14:14
1-1.<Private internal URL, not to be posted on the forums>
2-1. tools to convert ofp addons to arma readiness.(ofp/arma related)
3-1.Mp demo(arma related)
4-1.global publisher name(arma related)
5-1.sp demo(arma related)
1,000,000-1 arma release(arma rleated)
take your bets .winners will be awarded a pat on the back.
Post edited to respect BIS' privacy - Placebo
Official Trailer missed http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
and i mean a Demo only with Publisher.
Demo without Publisher = Bistudio released ArmA without Publisher. *g*
Ukraineboy
Jul 8 2006, 03:21
Post edited to respect BIS' privacy - Placebo
He figured it out!
Oh man, he's going to get a million PMs tonight.
Post edited to respect BIS' privacy - Placebo
He figured it out!
Oh man, he's going to get a million PMs tonight.
No, he just posted a url to an internal BIS webpage. (Password protected so nothing to actually see)
No, he just posted a url to an internal BIS webpage. (Password protected so nothing to actually see)
Precisely.
shinRaiden
Jul 8 2006, 10:39
Unfortunately not, Shinraiden posted it a few weeks/months back iirc.
Still interesting reading tho http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
No, first time I've seen that specific article. I knew about half of it though a year ago or more between wayback.org, Google (various business docs), and the scattered publicly available bistudio sites, which can be quite fun to look at.
Ukraineboy
Jul 8 2006, 18:48
Post edited to respect BIS' privacy - Placebo
He figured it out!
Oh man, he's going to get a million PMs tonight.
No, he just posted a url to an internal BIS webpage. (Password protected so nothing to actually see)
Oh that? Yeah that's old news, it's been posted before. I hope that's not the surprise though
meyamoti
Jul 9 2006, 03:04
If it were known then exactly how would it be the suprise.
Stendac
Jul 10 2006, 02:57
Can BIS still manage to release the game within Q3? They're running at full tail boogie tryin' to get the game done, but with no publisher announced yet there doesn't seem to be much time left.
orange juice
Jul 10 2006, 08:04
with the latest info from that italian interview in mind, i wouldn't be too unhappy to see it released just before christmas, powered by a killer ai.
Placebo
Jul 10 2006, 08:12
with the latest info from that italian interview in mind
That would be Lithuanian http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
tonik_tzw
Jul 10 2006, 10:10
They may well have a publisher in the pipeline but all these business agreements take time to work out. Part of the deal may be that the publisher is not announced until the game is ready to ship, that way if things dont work out before the release, the publisher doesnt lose 'street cred'!
As far as I've seen with BIS, when they make an announcement, they make it BIG. Because of this, I think we will see the publisher announced literally before the game is shipped.
I know we all hate waiting, and that information seems to be coming in small drips but the main point is that ARMED ASSAULT IS COMING!! Thats enough to keep me going!
VladAlex
Jul 10 2006, 10:10
Hum... I think flashnews 100 is coming soon. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/yay.gif
adamicz
Jul 10 2006, 10:26
Hum... I think flashnews 100 is coming soon. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/yay.gif
Quote[/b] ]FlashNews 100 will probably be online sometime on Friday 14th July http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
Espectro
Jul 10 2006, 10:33
Check out this american 'preview'
http://www.armedassault.eu/news.php?readmore=145
VladAlex
Jul 10 2006, 10:38
Friday 14th July ? It's the french national day !!!!!!!! YEAAAAAAH !
Vive la France, vive la République ! http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/yay.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/yay.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/yay.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/yay.gif
FCOPZ-Illuminator
Jul 10 2006, 11:46
Check out this american 'preview'
http://www.armedassault.eu/news.php?readmore=145
Thanks a lot. But i miss some new infos....
Thats again bla bla bla.... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/confused_o.gif
orange juice
Jul 10 2006, 11:54
with the latest info from that italian interview in mind
That would be Lithuanian http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
*rubs eyes* lol, indeed. Blame Materazzi.
Dang Placebo, the article said you 'take aim' at battlefields cap points, I think your comment was a polite broadside - a simple and nice way of making BF's method of play seem insignificant. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/thumbs-up.gif (You PR mastermind you. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif )
Espectro
Jul 10 2006, 15:34
And another one http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
http://www.armedassault.eu/news.php
meyamoti
Jul 10 2006, 15:49
Ha! BIS didn't include the top stuff in the demo,I was right on the moneh....hmm....interesting idea and yet I don't understand how it would simply make things more smooth,yes I can understand lower graphics but those are tweakable,when somebody plays (yet again) bf2 and they dont have the card to play the highest graphics on it,its their fault if they want to bitch and moan about the inevitable (buy another card if your not happy,if no then use what you got like the rest of us) However not everyone is foolish enough,some play with what they only need and thats good enough for them.
This makes me wonder what else BIS is hiding,with textures then obviously they didn't add the missing vehicles and probably only US soldiers were playable (unless they included some kind of editor) as I have yet to see the desert camo SSF (South Sahrani Forces,just a name) in any of the demo images,just developer. As per how things are hard...flying and gunning at the same time if forced to is not hard,it just takes alittle bit of practice and a not so null mind.
The alpha the germans had was already TWO GIGABYTE, imagine that with hi-res textures...
Anyhow, I wonder what those two gigs are comprised off..... I mean... assuming it's compressed, it's still an awfull lot of unknown stuff...
Considering the mission editor isn't accessible, or nobody of SimHQ tried to unPBO the files, it'l remain a mystery for now http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
Commando84
Jul 10 2006, 17:24
hehe bigger and better thats the way of today... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
more and more new games eat up more and more space on the harddrive, so people need to buy bigger harddrives .. i got a feeling my 80 gig on one of my comps' wont' be enough in 5 years time http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
meyamoti
Jul 10 2006, 17:33
A large portion of it could be the island,considernig its size is much larger and detailed than that of most if not any game I'v seen,who knows,but I doubt it will be too big in the end,if not,I'm sure the community will be able to make a few gigs obsolete http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
bravo 6
Jul 10 2006, 18:24
And another one http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
http://www.armedassault.eu/news.php
Quote[/b] ]Facts:
Genre: Tactic-shooter
Developer: Bohemia Interactive
Version: Alpha
Release Date: October 2006
is it officially confirmed? (another delay -> Q4 2006?)
BIS site (http://www.bistudio.com/games/ofaa.html) still say Q3 2006
edit: wich is it?
VISTREL
Jul 10 2006, 18:31
Im tired of all these previews. I want game! Now. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif
Espectro
Jul 10 2006, 18:54
And another one http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
http://www.armedassault.eu/news.php
Quote[/b] ]Facts:
Genre: Tactic-shooter
Developer: Bohemia Interactive
Version: Alpha
Release Date: October 2006
is it officially confirmed? (another delay -> Q4 2006?)
BIS site (http://www.bistudio.com/games/ofaa.html) still say Q3 2006
edit: wich is it?
Nah, Placebo told me not to lay much into those release dates...
Placebo
Jul 10 2006, 18:55
edit: wich is it?
All of the above, none of the above http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
No publisher = no confirmable release date (as I'm sure you've read numerous times).
meyamoti
Jul 10 2006, 19:11
Im tired of all these previews. I want game! Now. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif
As do the rest of us,but thats not going to get the game out faster and won't do anything other than irritate others.
VladAlex
Jul 10 2006, 19:21
No publisher = no playable demo http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/huh.gif? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/huh.gif
Journeyman
Jul 10 2006, 19:29
No publisher = no confirmable release date
So it's official? No publisher yet? Either BIS/Idea Games is playng 'hard to get' with hitting an acceptable agreement or no publisher is yet interested enough in making a deal!
I hope it's the first! ....Don't sell your masterpiece away to some big wig vulture interested only in $$$$$$ and total rights to everything! http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
Perhaps BIS could be the publisher? They could make the developers penny and the publishers dollar? Yeah that's it! Start burning dvds in the basement, and/or offer ARMA online as a 4+ gig download! LOL.
VISTREL
Jul 10 2006, 21:12
If no publisher then maybe Steam ?
danowen
Jul 10 2006, 21:18
If no publisher then maybe Steam ?
i hope so.
And yet again we restart the pointless steam debate. Lets just stop it here and now. Half hate steam, the other half love it ... Result is that using steam pisses off half your potential customers. The End.
Frantic
Jul 10 2006, 22:50
hmmm...i have steam but no matter...
but a system like steam...just to download ArmA would be nice too...i already bought 10euro for only the case of the dvd and a lill piece of paper with a number on it.
so if they dont find a publisher then they can sell it over the internet!
i will wait the few weeks to download it... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif
but i still believe that they will have a publisher when ArmA is fully done!
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/notworthy.gif
so lets hope that they r close to finish it and r only working on the campaign!
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/thumbs-up.gif
ParaGraphic L
Jul 10 2006, 23:26
BIS, just give the adress of your main office and I'll go and get it personally, with the money in my pocket! :P
Just want to add that I love that it's only a few months from now! http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
And still love the fact that this totally makes up the time for waiting on Game2 http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
For all of you that can't wait any longer, get FFUR 2006, ECP or WGL05 and find some friends to LAN with or something, make your own style missions with them and enjoy the best game of all time!
meyamoti
Jul 11 2006, 00:01
Steam...bad idea,but I'm just going to point out the most 'obvious' and not really rant on it,the downloading and connecting to verify files,it takes a long time and those without internet are basicly screwed.
armandobronca
Jul 11 2006, 01:11
Let them make their work (make the game better every day, and make a good deal with a publisher), then we will make our work (play it, love it, and mod it forever)
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
FriketMonkey
Jul 11 2006, 07:59
The game is not finished yet... when the AI is working, and the game runs smooth, it should be interesting for many publishers.
AfrographX
Jul 11 2006, 08:15
Another delay http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
Btw armandobronca are you Nigerian?
Kernriver
Jul 11 2006, 11:08
BIS, just give the adress of your main office and I'll go and get it personally, with the money in my pocket! :P
Hehe, it wouldn't be bad to visit Czech republic again, and what reason would be better than ArmA http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/xmas_o.gif (and girls and beer and...)
wow 187 pages
world record?
thread out of control?
armandobronca
Jul 11 2006, 11:30
Another delay http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
Btw armandobronca are you Nigerian?
Nope. Im spanish. Just noticed Andalucia flag (Andalucia is a part of Spain) is the same flag Nigeria have.
About the last german preview:
- "Our version however had performance issues with viewdistances exceeding 5 kilometers."
That's pretty good for an alpha version i think.
- "The AI still has issues in Urban Warfare. The Pathfinding is working but not the aiming."
Maybe they need to play it again in hard mode? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/whistle.gif
wow 187 pages
world record?
226 pages "Armed Assault Press release" on flashpoint.ru (http://www.flashpoint.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=31507)
El_MUERkO
Jul 11 2006, 12:54
No publisher = no confirmable release date (as I'm sure you've read numerous times).
Why no publisher Placebo?
I cant understand why they're not battering down BIS's doors to get the game, its a guaranteed million seller http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/banghead.gif
Potatomasher
Jul 11 2006, 14:20
No publisher = no confirmable release date (as I'm sure you've read numerous times).
Why no publisher Placebo?
I cant understand why they're not battering down BIS's doors to get the game, its a guaranteed million seller http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/banghead.gif
That's a question i've been wondering too. If ArmA really is much improved from E3 demo stuff now.
Lou Montana
Jul 11 2006, 14:54
Maybe cause they all wanted to buy BIS, like Rockstart for Rockstar North, and many other dev studios. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/confused_o.gif
Anyway, another problem with a "steam" system would exclude 56k users, no-internet gamers, etc etc.
Should find some kind of UPS service...
---- Now, back to the topic http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif ----
As mentioned on the previews, the urban fight has been improved greatly, just aiming to (re?)work...
Let's fight in big house on Nogova city !
So, let's get back all the new stuff :
- multiple guns on vehicles
- urban fight improved
- nice graphics
- waves on sea http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
- big maps
- 200+ MP players, JIP...
- BIG BIG BIG viewdistance !
- so many more...
but :
- no swimming.
I just can say : WOW, I want ArmA NOW!
No more features, just debug these and drop out the game, I want it on my HDD...
I can't live any longer without you, ArmA... argh, I'm dead http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/goodnight.gif
I do not complain anymore about the game content, I just grrrrrowl about release date... like most of us I think.
So, see you at july 14th for 100th flashnews (the demo?) ! http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
And again : Thank you, you who made OFP possible.
That game was a "daily need" ( http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif ) for me since 2001-2002, and thanks for the "customer" (I don't feel like a "customer") support.
VIVA OPERATION FLASHPOINT !
VIVA BOHEMIA !
VIVA COD... VIVA IDEA !
VIVA ARMA !
Thanks all http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
...damnit...the key of Armed Assault release is to stop and force people not to buy copies of Flashpoint!. Please...you need to find the information which truck deliver game copies with GOTY in it in your town and steal either truck or GOTY copies. Later on you/we can make some deal how to make up BIS lost copies.
It`s the only way out http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/xmas_o.gif
sory for offtopic.
Lou Montana
Jul 11 2006, 15:56
I seen in the WorthPlaying interview (http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=34590) that BIS had TBA as european editor.
As I live in Europe, no matter, I stop complaining and watch you others-countries-guys crying for my ArmA copy http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
Is TBA really the ArmA editor ? I never seen it anywhere else ? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/huh.gif
whisper
Jul 11 2006, 16:01
errr...
TBA = "To Be Announced"
Sorry to ruin your joy http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
Lou Montana
Jul 11 2006, 16:04
Oh... I forgot that (english != native language).
TY = Thank You ^_^
Dwarden
Jul 11 2006, 20:03
BIS guys should meet with someone from Google ... they got enough $ and are interested in great projects http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif , servers everywhere and so on , ideal type of publisher and partner http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
btw. since Steam deployed new virtual driver it can now deliver and publish any type of game using any type of engine w/o hit in perf...
Lol, there should be a publisher called TBA ! http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
GimpyBassturd
Jul 11 2006, 21:41
Hi , im brand new to the forum, im a OFP player from back when gamespy had OPF servers after they died off i thought OFP was dead so for years ive had nothing , i recently found karrilions server and started playing , but my disk was damaged and so ive been starving for the fruity goodness of flashpoint and have been choking down BF1942 and BF2 as a sorry replacement ever since, every time they say Armed Assault is just about to come out i get so excited i nearly pee myself only to be dissapointed again by another delay, i just read that june 06, was probably the month , im starting to wonder how long these extensions will go on .does anyone know what stage the game is at? maybe there should be a website with a percentage bar displaying progress, is there like a support group or a 12 step program for us OFP obbsessives? i think im starting to crack up.
, im starting to wonder how long these extensions will go on .does anyone know what stage the game is at?
Read the FAQ's... That is all the public knows on AA.. BIS are busy trying to make 2 games concurrently and find a Publisher....
meyamoti
Jul 11 2006, 22:25
In terms of advancements and stages,I'd say Armed Assault is possibly going into phase 5,I'v given explanations for them so I won't go into search here,but yes,Armed Assault and Game2,one of which we have heard nothing of,well....other than a few 5-15 second clips and whatnot,BIS is pretty busy no doubt,and maybe they are working on improving some things,like remaking a texture here or there,who knows,you just have to be patient like the rest of us,or you can join the group that 'demands' the release and the date and whines and gripes,both groups have one thing in common,both have to wait,both know it,one is just more patient than the other.
MadRussian
Jul 11 2006, 23:02
Just read the German magazine “PC Powerplay” write-up (translated).
Lots of good info, including AI "fortifying themselves on rooftops"... I hope this means they'll actually take up positions instead of having to be placed up there with disableAI called on them. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
Regarding helicoptor controls, the reviewer did have one line of complaints I must respectfully oppose:
Quote[/b] ]Unfortunatly the controls stand in our way. After a bit of training we fly more or less safely but not as elegantly as in the more simple Battlefield 2. Nevertheless we don’t succeed in destroying any tank. Our wepon specialist that should handle the weapons annoys us by reacting only very slowly to our orders. And when we try to control the weapon systems ourselfs we’re overstrained.
My short answer for the author is... get a joystick. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/icon_rolleyes.gif
In this ultimate realistic game of OFP/ArmA, flying a helicoptor is SUPPOSE to be lifelike and challenging. You should absolutely NEED a joystick to fly them with any precision.
Quote[/b] ]To fly the Cobra, evade incomming fire, spot targets and atatck them at the same time is a tad bit too much for us.
I personally spent considerable time learning to juggle all these "helicoptor tasks" effectively in OFP... and I didn't mind this a bit. Overcoming this "difficulty" was the fun part! http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif
Indeed, I'm quite happy not being spoon fed with simplistic arcade-like Battlefield 2 style controls! Please don't take any of the "simulation" out of our simulation's controls.
ZedderZulu
Jul 11 2006, 23:08
Yeah, the rooftop fortification thingy is new to me - hope it wasn't a set piece for the specific mission, because if the AI can take it upon themselves to move through buildings (how many enterable buildings there may be...) for tactical purposes then that would be utterly fantastic http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
I agree that it's far more simpler just to get a joystick - just every so often I have my joystick too close to my mouse, and I just have to brush the mouse and suddenly it's instant ground headbutting time... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/whistle.gif
meyamoti
Jul 11 2006, 23:46
Flying in OFP isn't really all that difficult,but you can easily tell who has a mouse and who doesnt,depending on how 'twitchy' a persons movements are in an air vehicle,not to mention a joystick gives a whole new freedom aspect to helicopter and especially jets,doing all those things at once isn't so difficult..hell I do it even in bf2...my advice would be practice,it would not be a good thing at all if the dev's made flying so much more simpler because somebody didnt want to train themselves,damn lazy *********************** ****** *** *** *** ...........*cough* I'v had too many experiences of people whining about weapons or controls because it wasn't easy enough for them to use and they would not practice,so they just made good cannon fodder.
Donnervogel
Jul 12 2006, 01:32
Personally I wouldn't give much on the fortifying on rooftops. It's most probably preplaced units. I just trasnlated as it was written. I don't think the author has a profound understanding of the OFP AI and OFP mission editing in general anyway.
Frantic
Jul 12 2006, 03:28
forget the guy from the german magazine...first: we dont know how the handling of the helicopter was on that E3 demo...second: i dont think BIS gives a f**k about BF2! http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
King Haggis
Jul 12 2006, 12:25
I've used a joystick too for flying choppers in Flashpoint but I think my latest method suits me best. I use the arrow keys (w,a,s and d) to move the chopper. The f and c key to change altitude. The q and e keys for the rudders and I use the freelook option to look around in the cockpit with the mouse. This way, you can look around you, spot a target and steer towards it with they keys while keeping your vision towards the target using the mouse. It's a bit like track IR with the mouse being the tracking device. You should try it. It may be a bit strange at first, but once you get the hang of it, you'll most likely never want to go back to joystick or mousesteering.
Sorry for going offtopic again. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
SniperAndy
Jul 12 2006, 16:39
so, 2 days to go till the big flashpoint news 100...(aparently).
come on BI let's roll this babe... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/yay.gif
VladAlex
Jul 12 2006, 16:52
Hum... I'm not so optimistic. I think it will be a BIG deception for all fans... Not Arma related... But all the comunity want ARMA or something that is Arma related. 2 days before a major disappointment. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
so, 2 days to go till the big flashpoint news 100...(aparently).
come on BI let's roll this babe... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/yay.gif
Big Flashpoint news? I'm a little behind it seems.
meyamoti
Jul 12 2006, 18:20
Hum... I'm not so optimistic. I think it will be a BIG deception for all fans... Not Arma related... But all the comunity want ARMA or something that is Arma related. 2 days before a major disappointment. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
Major dissapointment caused by those whom are greedy and want nothing more than things for themself and the game to be out as soon as possible,rather than those who want to wait for it to be finished and not rushed out.
Dissapointment is caused by opinion,it is not BIS's fault,it is the one who views it.
Desiring to have that which cannot be had - causes discomfort.
Desiring to avoid that which cannot be avoided - causes discomfort
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/notworthy.gif I bow to the wisdom of the Orient. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
That said, I'm pretty frikin' uncomfortable! http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rofl.gif
C'mon Flashnews 100. Releive my pain!
meyamoti
Jul 12 2006, 21:17
I wanna relieve some peoples pain with a nice steel toe shoe ^.^
Commando84
Jul 12 2006, 23:20
well i just lay back and say time will tell, play some games , going out in the sun , going for a swim in the lake with tha friends, meeting tha ex. gfriend again, watching tv , renting dvd's c'mon people there are tons of stuff to do while ya wait http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
meyamoti
Jul 13 2006, 00:38
Glad somebody doesnt sit at their desk staring at the screen all the time. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rofl.gif
GimpyBassturd
Jul 13 2006, 00:46
Like i said, im new to the forums and i have no time to go through years of forum to get caught up but when i saw some demo i saw something that made me kinda sad,
One thing that really bothered me about OPF was that annoying little menu you operated with the mouse wheel on the bottom right, i was sure they would have devised a better way to turn on helicopters and open crates by now, is that annoying little box gonna be there in AA?
One thing im also concerned about , what if AA falls to the wayside like flashpoint did, it really was a masterpiece but sadly hardly anyone played it, 250 people was about max on Gamespy was all i knew about. honestly im a little worried ill have a hard time finding it when it does get published in the U.S
meyamoti
Jul 13 2006, 00:57
I hope like hell that little action menu is there,sure it was a bit annoying for those that are impatient or aren't used to it,but I can't imagine OFP without it,alot of people wanted to get rid of it because they whined it was too complex,sorry their minds can't handle it but it opens many doors,on vehicles it decides which seat you can get in,its a huge plus for community members because they can script many actions you can do with a vehicle into it,like opening things and deploying,many things,so I hope like hell they don't get rid of it simply because a few impatient people can't take the time to get familiar with it,same thing with the command system,I didn't find it hard at all,and yet I hear people whining about it alot,saying its not user friendly,it is,but it makes you THINK,oh dear me..you have to get familiar with the menu and learn what does what...oh the crime!
I think dedicated stores may carry it,I had a hard time finding OFP:E in many stores,including the infamous 'wal mart' but I only found it at GameStop,the staff seemed to actuallly be made of gamers too. I don't think AA will have too much problems,everyone goes by graphics and crud so I'm sure that will get more people,and of course the veterans will generally want to get it,I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
Ukraineboy
Jul 13 2006, 03:08
what if AA falls to the wayside like flashpoint did
OFP has been out for 5 years now, and the playerbase is still huge.
Also, not everyone uses Gamespy. OFP's multiplayer is very unfriendly in the ways to find games, so you need to find a good server, download the addons needed and stick with it, and you'll have tons of fun and get to know your fellow squadmates much better then Jump In and Play type of games out there. OFP is not popular sure, but after 5 years it's not doing too bad.
Stendac
Jul 13 2006, 06:00
OFP has been out for 5 years now, and the playerbase is still huge.
Not huge enough. I don't know a single person around me that has OFP. In fact, it was only by good fortune that I happened to get my hands on the game myself. When I bought it I knew nothing about it and had no idea if it would be any good at all. It was one of the few games that was left on the shelves during a Walmart closing sale.
When Elite came out I never found it in any of the stores I visited. However, I later found a single used copy in a GameStop.
I hope ArmA's publisher has a nice little ad campaign so I can watch the pretty adverts on the TV.
Armed Assault has publisher in Poland http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/yay.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/yay.gif Price - 99 Zloty, means 30$. Release date - September/October.
http://www.gry-online.pl/S013.asp?ID=27283
Now, I can wait for this
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
meyamoti
Jul 13 2006, 08:28
Don't get your hopes up,somebody may be trying to distribute the demo for money,and get themself a nice law suit against em. Though it matches with Q4,I wouldn't get my hopes up too much about this date http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif until we can get an official solid date.
VladAlex
Jul 13 2006, 08:55
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/yay.gif
I go in Poland in september ! http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/yay.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/yay.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/yay.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/yay.gif
lecholas
Jul 13 2006, 09:39
Is it for sure eJay? In the article it says that this is from "LEM's press release" but there's no information about ArmA at official LEM's site at all. And what is more OFP's publisher in Poland was Cenega. And on IDEA's site there was some information about cooperation between Cenega and IDEA:
Quote[/b] ]
01. 03. 2006
IDEA Games is proud to announce a worldwide publishing agreement between CENEGA PUBLISHING and ALTAR games covering their upcoming sequel to the UFO series under the title UFO: Afterlight. Please visit the publisher’s website for more information.
Source: IDEA (http://www.idea-games.com/index_main.php?id=news)
Just my speculations and doubts...
But it would be good news if LEM was to publish ArmA instead of Cenega...
Lou Montana
Jul 13 2006, 09:50
Not related to ArmA http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/banghead.gif
Not related to ArmA http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/banghead.gif
Not related to ArmA http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/banghead.gif
Not related to ArmA http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/banghead.gif
Not related to ArmA http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/banghead.gif
Not related to ArmA http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/banghead.gif
...
The FlashNews surprise is not specifically related to Armed Assault
So, not totally related to, but a little anyway ?
Related about Bohemia with a publisher (dreaming) ?
Aaah, I can't wait, you makes me suffering every day BIStaff http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/inlove.gif
i suppose the ArmA release is not this year... i cant believe that BIS could release the game this year if they wont have a publisher yet.
I'm really sick of these old E3 "new" pics and vids u can see every single week a "new" one... OFP is getting smaller and smaller and if the dont hurry up ofp is dead and the community is thantoo small to get ArmA a really success...
sure i will buy the game but im not wondering if i can hold in my hands in 2007.
Is it for sure eJay? In the article it says that this is from "LEM's press release" but there's no information about ArmA at official LEM's site at all. And what is more OFP's publisher in Poland was Cenega.
Yep, definitely. LEM sent this info directly to GRY-ONLINE. LEM will write this on site as soon as possible.
And Cenega is OFP publisher in Poland, but it looks like they resign from distributing ArmA.
Seriously guys, if the waiting is THAT frustrating, go outside and enjoy the nice weather. I know I have (and will) enjoyed it.
Stavanger
Jul 13 2006, 11:18
Quote[/b] ]Yep, definitely. LEM sent this info directly to GRY-ONLINE.
Yeah nice, thanks for Info EJAY. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
i thought that this is a forum where u can tell ur opinion... sorry for my mistake
Only 99,90 zt? That's nice. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
VISTREL
Jul 13 2006, 12:01
Seriously guys, if the waiting is THAT frustrating, go outside and enjoy the nice weather. I know I have (and will) enjoyed it.
Some of us are armchair warriros on duty 24/7 http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
ArmedAssault.pl interviewed LEM about polish localisation, the interview is only in polish for now but I'll prepare english translation soon.
http://www.armedassault.pl/module.php?name=article&id=21
funnyguy1
Jul 13 2006, 14:11
Thx for info, I don`t have much time to surf and search even though I`m from Poland http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
The FlashNews surprise is not specifically related to Armed Assault
So, not totally related to, but a little anyway ?
Related about Bohemia with a publisher (dreaming) ?
Aaah, I can't wait, you makes me suffering every day BIStaff http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/inlove.gif
My guess is that they'll release OFP for free so everyone can (legally) DL and play as a PR-stunt for ArmA.
The FlashNews surprise is not specifically related to Armed Assault
So, not totally related to, but a little anyway ?
Related about Bohemia with a publisher (dreaming) ?
Aaah, I can't wait, you makes me suffering every day BIStaff http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/inlove.gif
My guess is that they'll release OFP for free so everyone can (legally) DL and play as a PR-stunt for ArmA.
No way, Codemasters wouldn't like that idea.
booradley60
Jul 13 2006, 16:51
Seriously guys, if the waiting is THAT frustrating, go outside and enjoy the nice weather. I know I have (and will) enjoyed it.
Some of us are armchair warriros on duty 24/7 http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
Others among us live in Alabama. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/help.gif
(Lemme just say enjoying the weather could only mean enjoying the jazz played over the Weather Channel's Local on the 8's)
ODB_Mario
Jul 13 2006, 17:23
www.armed-assault.de
sound like they got a publisher from poland http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/whistle.gif
meyamoti
Jul 13 2006, 17:49
Yes this forum is a place you can tell your opinion,but griping about a release date won't help anything but irritate other members,like said,if your having that much problem,go outside,waiting all the time on the computer isn't going to help anything but mess up your head and make you more impatient,it will be out when its done,as per OFP,its not dead,its actually quite far from dead,things being released weekly or so,no I wouldn't say its dead,most of the community members that make addons are sitting in wait for Armed Assault. If your sick of the stuff then the answer is simple,don't look or pay attention to them.
www.armed-assault.de
sound like they got a publisher from poland http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/whistle.gif
Not quite, the as yet unconfirmed news is that they have a publisher for distribution in Poland. Not a world-wide distribution deal.
VISTREL
Jul 13 2006, 19:47
Im pretty sure BIS will find publishers in small european countries. But Id like to know when they will get UK and USA publisher. (So I can preorder and be among the first to receive a copy http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif )
Ukraineboy
Jul 13 2006, 19:58
OFP has been out for 5 years now, and the playerbase is still huge.
Not huge enough. I don't know a single person around me that has OFP. In fact, it was only by good fortune that I happened to get my hands on the game myself. When I bought it I knew nothing about it and had no idea if it would be any good at all. It was one of the few games that was left on the shelves during a Walmart closing sale.
When Elite came out I never found it in any of the stores I visited. However, I later found a single used copy in a GameStop.
I hope ArmA's publisher has a nice little ad campaign so I can watch the pretty adverts on the TV.
Read the bold. It's been 5 years. Hardly any game can boast the playerbase OFP has after 5 years.
Messiah
Jul 13 2006, 20:05
Half Life http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif, C&C series, but you're quite correct... its amazing how much life I've squeezed out of this game
With BB speeds now why doesnt Bohemia just register as a publisher and get a paypal/bank deposit account and well put the spendula straight into thier coffers. More money for upper managements next pay rise and game developement.
With the internet you dont need adds or prime space at the shop just a good roll out on the internet game sites and forums.
After the EA/BF2, Nova/JO experience it might be refreshing to pay the money straight to the people who doing so much more than other FPS games.
Hack, chop, thrust and work forward Bohemia.
Stendac
Jul 13 2006, 23:39
Read the bold. It's been 5 years. Hardly any game can boast the playerbase OFP has after 5 years.
No, I don't mean they don't play OFP anymore; I mean that many people have never heard of Flashpoint at all. None of my friends had any idea what OFP was. Sad, huh? So I bought Elite for one of them.
Yup, showing WIP ArmA screencaps to random strangers on the streets, just preaching the good news.
meyamoti
Jul 14 2006, 00:10
Thats some gospel I'm willing to preach. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rofl.gif
Ukraineboy
Jul 14 2006, 01:07
Read the bold. It's been 5 years. Hardly any game can boast the playerbase OFP has after 5 years.
No, I don't mean they don't play OFP anymore; I mean that many people have never heard of Flashpoint at all. None of my friends had any idea what OFP was. Sad, huh? So I bought Elite for one of them.
Yup, showing WIP ArmA screencaps to random strangers on the streets, just preaching the good news.
Do I have to say it a third time? It's a 5 year old game. Ofcourse many people won't know of a 5 year old game! Some games yes have retained it's popularity and presence, but OFP just wasn't that big enough game to retain it.
I've finally translated the interview, sorry for any mistakes it's late i'm goin to bed http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
http://www.armedassault.pl/common/arma.pl_lem_english.txt
hf reading http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
GimpyBassturd
Jul 14 2006, 03:55
Ok meymoti
1. The games was supposed to be out as OPF 2 in 2004
2. They have been disapointing us quarter by quarter ever since
3 the forum is called Progress updates
of course people are going to gripe, why dont you stop griping about gripers. do you think they are gonna send you a free copy of AA for defending them?
meyamoti
Jul 14 2006, 06:05
Nope,but if gripers get out of control they just start "breeding" en mass and become larger and larger,I admit I am basicly griping about them and griping isn't helpful in any way but it gets irritating hearing the same thing over from them,so I'm just going to irritate them with the same thing,basicly my kind way of saying "please shut the hell up". The game itself was declared last summer,or went into production anyway,there was alot of confusion because OFP:E and early Armed Assault looked exactly alike. As for the dissapointments,I can't say I understand,then again I'm not looking purely at graphics and so far we are not sure how things work because we have not seen it,and anybody with a brain would know that things won't function how they do in the press demo,such as the physics and all that. So if they keep up their griping,I will keep with mine.
Progress updates yes,asking over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over when its going to be out doesn't quite fit the topic.
1. The games was supposed to be out as OPF 2 in 2004
Sorry but that has never been the case.
SniperAndy
Jul 14 2006, 08:56
something called OFP2 is a complete different story than ArmA mate. You need to talk to Codemistas about that http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/pistols.gif
CsonkaPityu
Jul 14 2006, 09:18
Ok meymoti
1. The games was supposed to be out as OPF 2 in 2004
2. They have been disapointing us quarter by quarter ever since
3 the forum is called Progress updates
of course people are going to gripe, why dont you stop griping about gripers. do you think they are gonna send you a free copy of AA for defending them?
You see, this is why people might get angry at you.
1.) The game started GETTING DEVELOPED at the april of 2005. IT'S SOMETHING TO KEEP US OCCUPIED UNTIL GAME 2 (WHICH WAS SUPPOSED TO BE OFP2) This isn't OFP2, never was supposed to be. ArmA = OFP: Elite on crack.
2.) The game has been delayed a few times, yes.
3.) There are a bunch of progress updates.
meyamoti
Jul 14 2006, 10:45
But you look at most modern games and..well what game hasn't been delayed really?
The Susser
Jul 14 2006, 11:17
People moaning about graphics and then they go and happily watch the simpsons. I don't btw. My point is the simpsons are using worse graphics than a 70's disney animation and yet its the most popular cartoon today.
Its the content folks.
martinovic
Jul 14 2006, 11:28
Simpsons sucks monkey balls. They should've stopped that show 4 (or more like 8) years ago, now it's just tiring. And the Simpsons is made with modern computer tech, it's all 3d now, it's just made to look 2d. The Simpsons is the Terry Schiavo of cartoons, put it out of it's misery already.
Oh and ArmA ain't OFP2 it is a spontanously created game, it wasn't supposed to be.
Oh and ArmA ain't OFP2 it is a spontanously created game, it wasn't supposed to be.
...well, no more www.flashpoint2.com http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/xmas_o.gif
jammydodger
Jul 14 2006, 11:55
Thanks for the translation T 2000. much appreciated.
VladAlex
Jul 14 2006, 13:04
LOL !
SURPRISE DELAYYY ! Now we have to wait until the 17 th july... Bis is definitly the studio of the year for the delays ! http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rofl.gif
Kernriver
Jul 14 2006, 13:16
A quote from Maciej Turski (LEM):
"We heard of the great OFP succes in Poland, so we decided to contact Bohemia Interactive, and finally we agreed at E3."
I wonder, how many other distributors contacted IDEA games and BIS, and came to an agreement... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
LOL !
SURPRISE DELAYYY ! Now we have to wait until the 17 th july... Bis is definitly the studio of the year for the delays ! http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rofl.gif
Nah, 3D Realms are... ever since they started to give us Duke Nukem 2017 pics http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
VISTREL
Jul 14 2006, 13:22
damn, I was gonna say the same thing...
3d realms -> stalker -> BIS
jk http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/whistle.gif
Average Joe
Jul 14 2006, 14:27
It all adds up.
damn, I was gonna say the same thing...
3d realms -> stalker -> BIS
jk http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/whistle.gif
Id rather say
3drealms -> Stalker -> Ubisoft ( ghost recon 2 (rip) and then ghost recon 3) -> valve (hl2 ) -> BIS
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
Robert(UK)
Jul 14 2006, 15:58
LOL !
SURPRISE DELAYYY ! Now we have to wait until the 17 th july... Bis is definitly the studio of the year for the delays ! http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rofl.gif
Where do you get all this info from man?
adamicz
Jul 14 2006, 16:08
Where do you get all this info from man?
Quote[/b] ]Current ETA for FlashNews 100 is Monday 17th July from "FlashNews 2006" topic http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
NeMeSiS
Jul 14 2006, 16:36
ArmA Progress Updates
Ok, ive been on vacation for a week and i decided to read this topic for any 'Progress Updates', the only 'news' i read is that there are real artillary pieces which can be destroyed so there wont be any artillary. But why did i have to read 10 pages for that? we need a 'useless speculation tread' http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif
ODB_Mario
Jul 14 2006, 16:42
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/icon_rolleyes.gif im tired of BIS now.... i dont care about the FlashNews 100.....
what we want are facts facts facts....
Robert(UK)
Jul 14 2006, 17:04
Where do you get all this info from man?
Quote[/b] ]Current ETA for FlashNews 100 is Monday 17th July from "FlashNews 2006" topic http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
Well I don't know where to find that, not that it matters. I will just wait like everyone else, although I am really, really looking forward to Armed Assault... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
kerber.cz
Jul 14 2006, 17:52
ArmA Progress Updates
Ok, ive been on vacation for a week and i decided to read this topic for any 'Progress Updates', the only 'news' i read is that there are real artillary pieces which can be destroyed so there wont be any artillary. But why did i have to read 10 pages for that? we need a 'useless speculation tread' http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif
Actually off-topic threads in actual threads would be better http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif .
I mostly only read (dont post) and it's not always easy to 'see' what some pages are about http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/banghead.gif .
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/icon_rolleyes.gif im tired of BIS now.... i dont care about the FlashNews 100.....
what we want are facts facts facts....
Actually BIS has posted nothing but facts. Its threads like this which build up all the speculation and false info http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
Oh, and dates slip. They slip in the real world, they slip in the game world. Nothing is certain http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
So true. Every day this game isn't selling is a day they are losing money. I'm sure they'd like to get it out as much as people want to buy it.
Potatomasher
Jul 14 2006, 19:18
I sence some tence atmosphere lately around here. I feel the same way, i even finally registered here because i thought the release could be near. Now i think that we are lucky if we see release next christmas.
meyamoti
Jul 14 2006, 20:23
If you guys are getting impatient its your own fault.
Yes I'm sure they would like to have the game out but its obviously not money they are after,otherwise (once more) the game would have been out long ago.
Sorry guys and gals but you have to wait like the rest of us wether you like or not. And they said that the date in terms of months is around October/September,if its not released by then we simply wait,if you want to move to another game feel free,we aren't gonna stop you.
Jackal326
Jul 14 2006, 21:34
If you guys are getting impatient its your own fault.
...
Sorry guys and gals but you have to wait like the rest of us wether you like or not. And they said that the date in terms of months is around October/September,if its not released by then we simply wait,if you want to move to another game feel free,we aren't gonna stop you.
Couldn't have put it better myself.
Yes I'm sure they would like to have the game out but its obviously not money they are after,otherwise (once more) the game would have been out long ago.
Yeah, it's all about us loving fans. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rofl.gif
Kernriver
Jul 14 2006, 23:02
Of course they are after money too, but can you remember the game that lasted so long on your HDD? I can't. Why? Because BIS made OFP to last, they WANTED to give us a game we would play (and mod) for years, otherwise they would just do what other developers (and distributors) do: give us a half-finished game with no modding or editing capabilities...they knew what they were doing then, and i think they know what they are doing now.
Huh, did i say all that? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
My guess is that they'll release OFP for free so everyone can (legally) DL and play as a PR-stunt for ArmA.
No way, Codemasters wouldn't like that idea.
Think about it. First of all, what distribution/publisher deal is for more than 5 years when it comes to a game? Furthermore, the deal might just be that if BIS distributes themselves, Codemasters are entitled to x% of the income wich is 0.
I'm sticking to my story. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
Commando84
Jul 15 2006, 00:32
Like C.J from, Gta San Andreas put it! "4 Life!"
and by that i mean Ofp 4 Life! http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/inlove.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/pistols.gif
My guess is that they'll release OFP for free so everyone can (legally) DL and play as a PR-stunt for ArmA.
No way, Codemasters wouldn't like that idea.
Think about it. First of all, what distribution/publisher deal is for more than 5 years when it comes to a game? Furthermore, the deal might just be that if BIS distributes themselves, Codemasters are entitled to x% of the income wich is 0.
I'm sticking to my story. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
Under copyright laws etc Codemasters technically own Operation Flashpoint (the name, the game lock-stock and however many smoking barrels) for something like 75 years after publishing (I'm sure one of the copyright officionado's will correct me here)
So whether BIS wanted to or not, they couldnt release it as freeware, as it isnt theirs to release. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
Isn't theirs... That just blows goats. That's like the doctor owning the baby he/she just delivered. Or delivery truck drivers owning the items they haul. Or the marketing houses owning the rights to the objects they make commercials for.. I could go on and on - unfortunately. Publishers have the channels and bend developers over the barrel. I hope BIS and IDEA are the strong willed, creative, brainiacs I picture them as. Ah well, I'll just be happy to see it go gold, whatever path it takes. 'Till then, I'm hawking any new screenies.
Quote[/b] ]That's like the doctor owning the baby he/she just delivered.
Only if the doctor signed a deal with her and her husband/man/whatever to get their baby after it was born for a certain fee and pay for it's diapers and the add in the papers announcing the baby had born..
Espectro
Jul 15 2006, 08:47
OFP (the game, not name) is still BIS'. The only difference is, that BIS aren't allowed to earn money on it (commercial use) without Codies behind them.
SO it might be possible that BIS releases a free download with all the original stuff from OFP/Ressistance. They can't, however, include it in the ArmA-package, since then it would be of commercial use.
judge&jury
Jul 15 2006, 11:33
I don't think this surprise is a free release of OFP. Aside from the murky legal issues involved, the way BIS has handled the surprise tends to hint towards something else. Why, for instance, would BIS change the FlashNews release from Friday to Monday if they were merely uploading software? I imagine that packaging up some 5 year old software and a few patches wouldn't require an extra weekend of work due to unforseen difficulties.
Instead, I believe that it must be something that required some creative design or technical input from the staff, like a mod wiki, a new promo video, or perhaps even a demo. This would be consistent with the shift in dates, since it is possible to discover a critical bug or flaw close to release. What the surprise is, however, is anyone's guess. Until now, BIS has set neither a fixed release date or even a publisher for Armed Assault, and the status of Game 2/3/whatever is unclear. We have no confirmed final feature list and very little media or information to work with, so any predictions at this stage are unlikely to be anything more than mere guesses. Finally, all of this assumes the surprise is actually related to Armed Assault, which itself is doubtful.
To be honest, I'm getting sick of the information stranglehold too. BIS seldom makes any statements about its products, and its only public face is our local sheriff, Placebo. It must be frightening for newcomers to come here, see the multitude of locked threads and find next to no facts.
In short, we need to stop making wild speculations, and BIS needs to start releasing more info. Monday's FlashNews would be a good place to start.
westy159
Jul 15 2006, 13:09
Talking about rushing the game will leave bugs...
Look at how many patches OFP had. It was a rather buggy game (and still is, grass patches randomly flashing on the road in Nogova anyone?) probably as it was unlike any game ever created before. Can we expect Armed Assault to be the same?
"Information stranglehold"? "Next to no facts"? - There are dozens of interviews with lots of facts! BIS have answered the majority of questions asked about the game. That many people can't accept that they have the answers and endlessly wish for X, Y & Z is not BIS's problem.
"Multitude of locked threads" - The threads have been locked because they ask the same questions which have already been answered, or are already being discussed in open threads.
As far as the two day delay in Flashnews, who said that had anything to do with the suprise? Maybe Placebo just wanted more time to review the new mod releases, i.e. the bread and butter of Flashnews.
I think this suprise will turn out to be a huge disappointment for most people because they assume it must be something big and special. They insist on believing it has something to so with Arma despite being told emphatically that it isn't. I can just hear the angry tirades when the suprise is revealed to be a new BIS logo (etc).
Ahhh... A new logo. That would make sense since they have decided to dabble in Publishing, release the AA demo and bring out a patch for OFP that will turn it into Next Gen ...TIC
Under copyright laws etc Codemasters technically own Operation Flashpoint (the name, the game lock-stock and however many smoking barrels) for something like 75 years after publishing (I'm sure one of the copyright officionado's will correct me here)
So whether BIS wanted to or not, they couldnt release it as freeware, as it isnt theirs to release. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
Hmmm, ok. I thought BIS owned the rights to game and used Codemasters to distribute it. And the deal with Codemasters lasted only for 5 years.
Well thought isn't the right word. Hoped was more like it.
As I understand, BIS owns the engine, and thats about it. Codies own the rights to everything else. Tho I'm a little hazy on the content (models/textures) but the voice acting, logos, names and everything else belongs to codies.
Berghoff
Jul 15 2006, 14:25
Ofcourse the models/textures etc are owned by BIS as they made it ._o I think only the name and stuff is owned by Codies.
judge&jury
Jul 15 2006, 14:37
My apologies, I guess I wasn't clear enough. While BIS has given many interviews, and I commend them for that, they rarely give any new information. Sure, it's great to hear about the design philosophy of the BIS team, and that they're creating "games for life", but to be honest we've heard it all before. Take the new Lituanian interview, for instance. The only new piece of information in that interview was that they're improving the AI, something we essentially knew already (did anyone actually figure out what "FSM based modular AI system" means?). There are plenty of genuine concerns about the game that have simply gone unanswered. Do they plan to improve the vehicle system? How about the physics? These fundamental questions may only require simple answers about some ideas they want to implement. Unfortunately, since we don't know what to expect in Armed Assault, some of us are beginning to question why we cheered it along in the first place. Sure, BIS created an awesome first title, but then again most hollywood sequels suck. Last time I checked, X Y and Z were still pretty important.
I also understand that BIS, for business related, strategic or technical reasons, may not wish to answer questions at this time. Making promises you can't keep, I'm sure, can be a fatal mistake in such a community-orriented industry. Also, given the problems they're having with publishers, I suppose it's difficult for them to commit to a certain development timeframe. But the unfortunate result of this veil of secrecy is a restless, curious and speculative community. You can't have your cake and eat it too, it seems.
That says nothing about the effect that locking has on community discussion. Several weeks ago, someone posted a thread about creating a Vietnam mod, which was promptly locked because the mods simply thought it was "lame". I couldn't possibly think of a more harmful way to moderate such a creative community. I wouldn't really know since I'm not a mod maker, but I guess they need a lot of time to discuss the ideas and themes of their mods. After all, what else should we do while waiting for the release? Perhaps this calls for a mod forum for Armed Assault. Another quick glance at the "Anybody else see this" thread reveals that we're not to mention the surprise and Armed Assault in the same breath. If indeed this is the case, then I apologise to the mods for my earlier post.
Regarding Flashnews and mod releases, it's possible that you're right. Besides, I was never really expecting much from this surprise. Peoples' expectations are getting blown out of proportion, what with all the recent speculation. We need to keep it cool, and hope that BIS will be a little more open with us in the future
armandobronca
Jul 15 2006, 15:23
I havent seen a closed thread without a good reason.
Check that Vietnam Thread (http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard311/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=64;t=52719) again
About an Arma Mod forum, Placebo said
Quote[/b] ]
Although I'm currently toying with the idea of adding an "ArmA:Community" subforum which would essentially be a temporary "ArmA squads & fanpages" and "ArmA addons & mod:discussion" (with all ArmA general stuff remaining where it is).
"Peoples' expectations are getting blown out of proportion"
I think the same. I have no idea about whats coming with flashnews 100 but i dont think it will be something big.
Ukraineboy
Jul 15 2006, 17:14
Another quick glance at the "Anybody else see this" thread reveals that we're not to mention the surprise and Armed Assault in the same breath.
It was closed because:
1.)The Surprise has nothing to do with Armed Assault, thus the post was offtopic
2.)There was already plenty of discussion about the surprise
3.)Retarded title. You're not allowed to make titles like "wow!" or "OMG! come see this!". Vague titles are a no no.
Ah well, back to the topic.
After reviewing the 'latest' ArmA screenies (still old AFAIK) and previews of this WIP there is IMHO currently:
The Good-
Models, terrain, cities, grass, vegetation of all types, driving (on the side, and ground effects), water and smoke effects, quantity of units available/possible in a mission, view distance, projectile kinetics / material properties (even coarse differences), wildlife and ambiance.
The Bad-
The current set of voices (Latest are choppy), driving (maybe player induced collisions), AI (one previewers opinion, and yes I know they are attempting great things with it).
And The Ugly (read: unknown)-
Flight controls- some said too easy, some said too hard.. Is this the sweet-spot? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wow_o.gif
Building interiors - Has been written many are enterable, but seemingly not too many by the time of the released E3 demo?
Many things have improved, and many complaints have dissappered in the last 4 months. I would bet the so called current info is a bit old at this pace of progress. So overall, Good job BIS! http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/thumbs-up.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/notworthy.gif
NeMeSiS
Jul 15 2006, 18:18
My apologies, I guess I wasn't clear enough. While BIS has given many interviews, and I commend them for that, they rarely give any new information.
Actually, they give us a nice amount of info, and also stuff we are asking for, for instance, some weeks ago people wondered if the artillery was just spawned bombs or real artillery units, and in the latest interview we got info about that. When people wondered if there would be a hind in ArmA we got a screen of one in an interview, etc etc http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
martinovic
Jul 15 2006, 18:21
Quote[/b] ]When people wondered if there would be a hind in ArmA we got a screen of one in an interview,
Supply me with said screenshot please.
NeMeSiS
Jul 15 2006, 18:23
Quote[/b] ]When people wondered if there would be a hind in ArmA we got a screen of one in an interview,
Supply me with said screenshot please.
Cant
1. Too lazy
2. It might have been a mi17, or a mi24, i dont know http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif
armandobronca
Jul 15 2006, 20:18
Quote[/b] ]When people wondered if there would be a hind in ArmA we got a screen of one in an interview,
Supply me with said screenshot please.
This one? (http://clanshout.co.uk/cutenews/data/upimages/AAgamesit1L.jpg)
adamicz
Jul 15 2006, 20:29
Quote[/b] ]When people wondered if there would be a hind in ArmA we got a screen of one in an interview,
Supply me with said screenshot please.
This one? (http://clanshout.co.uk/cutenews/data/upimages/AAgamesit1L.jpg)
Yeah, that really looks like a Hind http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
martinovic
Jul 15 2006, 21:18
That's an mi-17:
http://www.airventure.de/gatowpics/Mi-8-01-93+14.jpg
Hind (mi-24):
http://perso.orange.fr/aeromil-yf/MI24%20au%20decollage.jpg
If I remember correctly, there was one in an early vid
doing paradrops.
Ukraineboy
Jul 16 2006, 01:34
If I remember correctly, there was one in an early vid
doing paradrops.
Yes, the Russian preview.
meyamoti
Jul 16 2006, 01:39
A Hind is not a Hip :P. But no,we have not seen any Mi-24 other than the very first video's,which of course were extremely early,the guns were present yes,but animations and character models were exactly like OFP:E aka placeholders. There are many questions unanswered yes,one would be why we see so little of the Russian forces. I have a few theories on this,keep in mind theories are not facts.
1. They are reworking the vehicles,I highly doubt that the North would have only T-72's,BMP-2's,Mi-17's,UAZ's,Ural's,ZSU-23 and the BTR. (BTR-60 I think...I know it has no turret.)
It leaves many gaps,where is the North's heavy battle tank,such as a T-80,their 'attack helicopter' Mi-17 can't carry AT missiles last I checked.
2. The vehicles are there,but they are being kept hidden,we have seen alot of US stuff right? Well the US stuff was apparently worked on first,and our little informant,William Porter whom provided some images that didn't match the timeline,was on the US side,so its natural we don't get any images of the Northen base. And what of the South Sarhani's? Is a simple repainted Ural all they have? I would tend to think not,so many things don't match up and so many questions remain.
If you guys remember back to the images of the UH-60's released by William Porter but then taken down later because of his "base commander" then you would remember the problem with the rotors. For those of you not familiar,there was a bug or misdefining of some sort that caused the rotor blur to show up with the rotors while the rotors were not moving,you might notice the same issue in the picture with the Mi-17.
Further more there was the mysterious image of Sahrani on google earth,no coordinates were given so nobody else could find it. Could it be a hoax? A photoshopped image? Seems like a pretty big hassle to do it,and whoever did it seems to have a good idea of how the island would look. Yes we were given an image of Sahrani but only in terms of its topography,showing land height and few features. And what of the blur to the north,why would that be there? My guess is that, IF it is valid,then it may be a possibility of the Northern base,but nobody other than BIS nows this for sure.
My speculations are not facts,they may be but I wouldn't take them to heart,but too many things are misplaced here and don't add up.
We have two US Marine vehicles,AH-1Z and Stryker,the super cobra equipped with AIM-9's and AGM-114's,in its current state,the north has no helicopter or AA system to really go against it. Yes they have a Shilka but even that is more limited.
Then we have southern Sahrani,using older US equipment,in terms of weaponry such as rifles we have seen a mix,vehicles we have only seen a repainted ural,but heres where it doesn't add up.
There are M11-3's and Vulcans,both of which would be outdated and not used by the more modern using US forces in the game,they have to be hiding some things there. In terms of vehicle classes,power and balance,the game other than infantry does not work well together,so yes,I believe there are things kept from us,and I can respect that.
As for the suprise,Placebo's words kind of make me wonder...He didn't necessarily say the suprise has "absolutely nothing" to do with Armed Assault,he said. "It is not 'specificly' related",a carefully worded statement,do not get your hopes up,but don't be too oblivious.
Ukraineboy
Jul 16 2006, 03:17
which of course were extremely early,the guns were present yes,but animations and character models were exactly like OFP:E aka placeholders.
Why would they have an Mi-24 placeholder if they didn't intend to have an mi-24 in the final game? Do you understand the word PLACEHOLDER? I.E. it holds a place.
Also there is absolutely, positively no reason the Mi-24 wont be in game! None whatsoever. It isn't a rare helicopter at all, and it will be in the game, 99% sure.
armandobronca
Jul 16 2006, 03:26
I believe there are things kept from us,and I can respect that.
As for the suprise,Placebo's words kind of make me wonder...He didn't necessarily say the suprise has "absolutely nothing" to do with Armed Assault,he said. "It is not 'specificly' related",a carefully worded statement,do not get your hopes up,but don't be too oblivious.
I think ur right. They are hiding a lot.
Arma related: wiki
Not arma related: no idea
Well, to be honest, it WAS an early build. Seemed to be OFP's engine touched up a bit, with the original units. With the north having such a numeric advantage, it might be unstopable with many 24's. So I see his point saying it's a placeholder, might have a lot of Hips instead for troop transport and shock effect, as we have not seen a Hind recently. I do hope there is one though, there would be something missing without it. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/confused_o.gif
BWFSabian
Jul 16 2006, 05:07
To be honest, I'm exhausted, along with many of you fellas and a host of others, waiting for the sequel... Maybe it's my cynical mind or the pint and a half of Smurff but I'm starting to think that lack of full disclosure hints at in-game issues.. BIS have been talking about publishers and thier security issues with Codemasters, but even though they say they would be ready in June 2006 (Q2), they have the felt need to shift that back to November 2006 (Q4).. I realise that I have no idea about the complexities of forming such a detailed and intricate work such as is Operation Flashpoint, but I have a calender on my wall which conveys, along with the various nefarious legal corruptions of womanhood, the dates which are fairly fixed on the Julian measurement of time.. (Except for an African country where it is still 1982...)
I just wish that I could find some steadfast and solid date to treat as my target in this.. It's been five years since the release and a lot of us dedicated ourselves to the concept straight away.. It would be a shame if the continual retreat stopped anyone beleiving in the rebirth of what must be one of the best PC/Xbox/PS2 games ever developed..
BWFSabian
British Weed Freaks
UK.
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
RMATICH
Jul 16 2006, 05:13
So that I don't have to go and read endless posts on this thread please tell me where AmedA stands right now. Do we have a publisher? Thats what I'm worried about is that they don't have a publisher yet. Are there legal issues with Codemasters or somthing?
meyamoti
Jul 16 2006, 05:14
which of course were extremely early,the guns were present yes,but animations and character models were exactly like OFP:E aka placeholders.
Why would they have an Mi-24 placeholder if they didn't intend to have an mi-24 in the final game? Do you understand the word PLACEHOLDER? I.E. it holds a place.
Also there is absolutely, positively no reason the Mi-24 wont be in game! None whatsoever. It isn't a rare helicopter at all, and it will be in the game, 99% sure.
I meant place holder as in holding a place until they get a new one.
Espectro
Jul 16 2006, 08:03
Further more there was the mysterious image of Sahrani on google earth,no coordinates were given so nobody else could find it. Could it be a hoax? A photoshopped image? Seems like a pretty big hassle to do it,and whoever did it seems to have a good idea of how the island would look. Yes we were given an image of Sahrani but only in terms of its topography,showing land height and few features. And what of the blur to the north,why would that be there? My guess is that, IF it is valid,then it may be a possibility of the Northern base,but nobody other than BIS nows this for sure.
My speculations are not facts,they may be but I wouldn't take them to heart,but too many things are misplaced here and don't add up.
We have two US Marine vehicles,AH-1Z and Stryker,the super cobra equipped with AIM-9's and AGM-114's,in its current state,the north has no helicopter or AA system to really go against it. Yes they have a Shilka but even that is more limited.
Then we have southern Sahrani,using older US equipment,in terms of weaponry such as rifles we have seen a mix,vehicles we have only seen a repainted ural,but heres where it doesn't add up.
There are M11-3's and Vulcans,both of which would be outdated and not used by the more modern using US forces in the game,they have to be hiding some things there. In terms of vehicle classes,power and balance,the game other than infantry does not work well together,so yes,I believe there are things kept from us,and I can respect that.
As for the suprise,Placebo's words kind of make me wonder...He didn't necessarily say the suprise has "absolutely nothing" to do with Armed Assault,he said. "It is not 'specificly' related",a carefully worded statement,do not get your hopes up,but don't be too oblivious.
Yes it was photoshopped.
Infact it wasn't BIS who made it, but someone from our community. Sorry, I cannot recall his name right from the back of my head, help anyone?
T-72's,BMP-2's,Mi-17's,UAZ's,Ural's,ZSU-23 and the BTR. (BTR-60 I think...I know it has no turret.)
Thats not BTR, but BRDM-2.
Quote[/b] ]We have two US Marine vehicles,AH-1Z and Stryker...
The Stryker is an US ARMY vehicle. The USMC use LAV series armoured transports and AAVP7A1 Assault Amphibian Vehicle.
Infact it wasn't BIS who made it, but someone from our community. Sorry, I cannot recall his name right from the back of my head, help anyone?
Are you absolutely sure about that? The faked google earth image had far more detail than the original Porter map, much of that extra detail has since proved to be accurate and reflected in in-game shots. The inlets on the south coast for example.
martinovic
Jul 16 2006, 09:17
T-72's,BMP-2's,Mi-17's,UAZ's,Ural's,ZSU-23 and the BTR. (BTR-60 I think...I know it has no turret.)
Thats not BTR, but BRDM-2.
Quote[/b] ]We have two US Marine vehicles,AH-1Z and Stryker...
The Stryker is an US ARMY vehicle. The USMC use LAV series armoured transports and AAVP7A1 Assault Amphibian Vehicle.
Well, the USMC use the littlebirds. So the two gunships are both USMC, so there probably is a marine presence on the island.
And it's not sure if the hind will be in, but there was a seperate thread for it so i won't start dicussing the stuff here.
judge&jury
Jul 16 2006, 09:56
I'm with GBee regarding the map. There are plenty of features shown on the satellite image and in-game pics that simply aren't on the BIS map. It would require someone with some pretty detailed inside information and damn good mapping talents (not to mention tools) to produce an image like that.
I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but I believe there is a real island out there that was used as a blueprint for Sahrani. Does anyone remember the BIS in-house tool that could create entire islands from raw topographic data? Assuming BIS bought some detailed satellite information, they could easily make a few modifications and release a fake "Google maps" image. This data would also be the basis for Sahrani, which would explain the consistency between the satellite image and in-game screenshots.
That may leave you scratching your head wondering what the upside is. Personally, I spent hours looking for that damned island, and even went to Wikipedia in search of a comprehensive list of small islands in the Atlantic (remember, the island could actually be anywhere). Quite an awesome marketting strategy, you could say.
Well, the USMC use the littlebirds. So the two gunships are both USMC, so there probably is a marine presence on the island.
And it's not sure if the hind will be in, but there was a seperate thread for it so i won't start dicussing the stuff here.
The USMC has NEVER used the H-6 airframe, it is an exclusively Army helicopter. And in fact, the Army only have ~30 of them left, all of which are in 160TH SOAR service.
Oh, and the Stryker is only in US Army service too, forming the Stryker brigades. The Marine Corps uses LAV's
deanosbeano
Jul 16 2006, 13:21
I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but I believe there is a real island out there
someone from bis and placebo in an interview said.
Quote[/b] ]Sahrani is based on real satelite datas but the shape was modified to fit our campaign and ideas.
[edit] oh and Donkey posted the google,prolly an alias for a bis chap http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
AfrographX
Jul 16 2006, 14:01
I think it's highly unrealistic that such a small nation as Northern Sahrani has heavy battle tanks, APCs, other AFVs and Mi17 helicopters.
Judging from the screens it has approximately half the size of Grenada. So Sahrani may have around 30.000-45.000 people with a maximum of 8.000 to 13.000 men available for military service. Comparable real-life nations wouldn't even have a military but only a police force with perhaps a small paramilitary unit equiped with heavier weapons and armoured vehicles.
Same thing with the US-presence on the island. Why so many units from different services? Why the hell should there be Abrams tanks? I think it would be more realistic to have only a small number of Green Berets and/or other military advisors training the Southern Sahranis on the island.
Berghoff
Jul 16 2006, 14:03
I think it's highly unrealistic that such a small nation as Northern Sahrani has heavy battle tanks, APCs, other AFVs and Mi17 helicopters.
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif Same thing for the CWC/Resistance campaign.
Well, the USMC use the littlebirds. So the two gunships are both USMC, so there probably is a marine presence on the island.
Well, actually the AH-1Z the only USMC related equipment. The H-6 and H-60 helos, the Stryker vehicle, and the M1A2 tank (? we only see M1A1 tank modell labelled M1A2 so far) are only US ARMY equipment. Not to mention the ACU uniform, because the USMC use their own MARPAT camouflage. So actually we mostly see US ARMY, and not USMC forces in ArmA...
I think it's highly unrealistic that such a small nation as Northern Sahrani has heavy battle tanks, APCs, other AFVs and Mi17 helicopters.
Judging from the screens it has approximately half the size of Grenada. So Sahrani may have around 30.000-45.000 people with a maximum of 8.000 to 13.000 men available for military service. Comparable real-life nations wouldn't even have a military but only a police force with perhaps a small paramilitary unit equiped with heavier weapons and armoured vehicles.
Same thing with the US-presence on the island. Why so many units from different services? Why the hell should there be Abrams tanks? I think it would be more realistic to have only a small number of Green Berets and/or other military advisors training the Southern Sahranis on the island.
The question is good, but be remain in ground: not too magniloquen to expect an game wich can handle a large nation, have several million citizen, and to afford this, are several thousand squre km large in area?
The BIS need to be scaled down, to maintain in playable levels...
I opened a thread a while ago about the US and southern sahari forces and the problems with authenticity of the units seen on the screenshots so far.
Maybe it would be good to continue talking there, rather than in this thread? Just a suggestion.
http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin....l=nyles (http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard311/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=64;t=52193;hl=nyles)
VladAlex
Jul 16 2006, 19:27
Do you think that the surprise is going to be released this night after 12 pm ? Should I sleep ? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/confused_o.gif
Won't be any suprise for me http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/huh.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/nener.gif
VladAlex
Jul 16 2006, 19:59
WHAT ?
Why ?
Do you ever know what is the surprise ? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif
If I knew the suprise, I'd be sworn to secrecy and I also wouldn't want to ruin it for everyone else.
So I can't prove I know the suprise and thus I won't make any claim to know the suprise.
I'm just saying that I won't be suprised.
VladAlex
Jul 16 2006, 20:42
Just one word. Do you THINK (and not know) it will be big, very big, or very very big ?
Espectro
Jul 16 2006, 20:50
Just one word. Do you THINK (and not know) it will be big, very big, or very very big ?
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VladAlex
Jul 16 2006, 20:56
OMG ! http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/xmas_o.gif = http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/yay.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/yay.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/yay.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/yay.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/yay.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/yay.gif
So the only thing to do is to wait ONE hour !
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Well I think it won't be as big as you hope. I think that you may be disappointed.
I don't even think it will be entirely a suprise.
I think I've said enough http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/yay.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/yay.gif
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/notworthy.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/notworthy.gif
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/goodnight.gif
ahhh, THIS wait is almost over, at least!
*gets shot*
hmm, wait one hour? Unless they have a timed update, I think it's possible it's a manual update, and therfore during their business hours (whatever zulu time that is). http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/confused_o.gif (c'mon auto-update!http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
I doubt it's going up at midnight. I'd bet on noon during there business hours.
cosmo3000
Jul 16 2006, 21:37
calm down biatches !!! :-)
there will be no demo, maybe a publisher or some new pics.
or a wiki page. nothing more !!!
realize that ..........
Looking at this = http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/xmas_o.gif tells me a Christmas release date perhaps?
VladAlex
Jul 16 2006, 21:47
Quote[/b] ]calm down biatches !!! :-)
there will be no demo, maybe a publisher or some new pics.
or a wiki page. nothing more !!!
realize that ..........
In this case what all that waiting ? why all that annouces ? Why this weekend delay. Why this tree weeks of works ? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
Rainbow
Jul 16 2006, 22:20
BIS also wants to have holidays, you don't think ?? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
kendell
Jul 16 2006, 22:36
sorry to be a dumb ass but what is out after 12
VladAlex
Jul 16 2006, 23:00
So we have to wait again and again ! http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rofl.gif
Robert(UK)
Jul 16 2006, 23:08
sorry to be a dumb ass but what is out after 12
An update by Placebo that apparently has nothing 'specifically' to do with ArmA... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
cosmo3000
Jul 16 2006, 23:40
as you see: ist 1:37 and nothing has happend
NOTHING
no surprise
and as anyone says: 100. flashnews has nothing to do with ArmA
DON'T EXPECT A MIRACLE
just wait for ArmA. it will come ! and it will be great. just be patient !!!
an for the waiting time i play some BF2 rounds.
and when ArmA is released, i will uninstall BF2 forever !!
meyamoti
Jul 17 2006, 00:14
Indeed,impatience isn't always a virtue. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
It's 05:30 can't you do it any faster ? :P
I'm goin' mad while waiting for this flashnews http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/xmas_o.gif
meyamoti
Jul 17 2006, 05:28
I would suggest you check the news website at around the afternoon of the 17th or the night of it.
Lou Montana
Jul 17 2006, 09:10
For those who kill their F5 button, copy-paste this on a txt then rename html :
<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr><td>Code Sample </td></tr><tr><td id="CODE"><html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="refresh" content="10">
<title>FlashNews No 100. (Week Ending 09/07/2006)</title>
</head>
<body topmargin=0 leftmargin=0 scroll="no">
<center><b>Lou Montana presents</b></center>
<IFRAME frameborder=0 src="http://www.bistudio.com/flashnews/2006/07_July/090706/flashnews_100.html" width="100%" height="100%">Your browser doesn't support frames.</IFRAME>
</body>
</html>[/QUOTE]
Here, your F5 is saved, your mental life too !
Makes his day to anyone http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif ?
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rofl.gif
Placebo
Jul 17 2006, 09:15
FlashNews is not an "ArmA Progress Update" so it's not related to this topic and should be discussed elsewhere (once it's out) http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
Murmur2k
Jul 17 2006, 09:19
Which forum/topic should it be discussed Placebo?? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
Lou Montana
Jul 17 2006, 09:20
Flashpoint forum, true. Sorry anyway!
Placebo
Jul 17 2006, 09:22
BI General, but for now the thread is closed as speculation is pointless, you'll just have to bite your lips and fingernails a little longer http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
So, I'm afraid that the news is not as good as we hoped....All we are waiting for is the released of AA. During our hollidays (now) we would have all our time to play with it and begin to modify our addOns.
Like said a great body : I have a dream.....
Greating and thank's for your work. The best game forever.
Xavier PETIT http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/notworthy.gif
VladAlex
Jul 17 2006, 09:34
I'm afraid it's not really a surprise. Its just another stupid marketing idea to make us wait like dogs ! http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
Placebo
Jul 17 2006, 10:28
Anyone who cannot participate on the forums in a mature manner will have their forum access removed.
cosmo3000
Jul 17 2006, 11:09
my F5 key is brocken !!!
how can i reload a page without f5 ??
should i use the any key? i cant find that key !!
help me out ... plz
Lou Montana
Jul 17 2006, 11:14
I'd say that a little surprise isn't announced 3 weeks before, but if it is not (totally?) related to ArmA, as ArmA makes the titles...
We're losing on our reflexion. Yesterday I played OFP (like everyday... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/whistle.gif ) and was wondering how could I feel on Sahrani with thos great graphics, this new campaign format (Big mission with other little missions)...
I just dreamed around 10 minutes before I seen I was killed.
You guys make some people dreaming or at least escaping from reality, that is a hard job and you make it perfectly (for me). That's why we all hope, like OFP is (was?), for a great one-in-a-decade game. Thanks again.
It is hard to just "wait" about an "imminent surprise" without talking about it, and we can't think it's not related to ArmA. If it is related to you BIS, it is related to OFP/ArmA/Game2. Maybe by that you meant "not totally related to ArmA" ?
You have our hopes on your shoulders, do not give up under pressure, I give you all my love to make you stronger http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/inlove.gif .
As long as you relase ArmA soon ! http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
Anyone who cannot participate on the forums in a mature manner will have their forum access removed.
I cant see who youre talking about. If youre having an attempt at humour than yes its a very funny statement considering i havent seen anything but cusdtomers eagerly waiting for news and discussing it.
Take a deep breath and relax !
Placebo
Jul 17 2006, 11:24
Anyone who cannot participate on the forums in a mature manner will have their forum access removed.
I cant see who youre talking about.
I referred to the post above mine with my comment.
If you wish to discuss any moderating issues please directly contact the moderator in question or use the pinned "ask a mod" thread in the off topic forum http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
armandobronca
Jul 17 2006, 11:25
Can't u?
I can
Anyway if you like humour check flashnews 100 page again:
All your F5 are belong to us!!!!
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/threadjacked.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/icon_redface.gif
Im sorry no more OT
AfrographX
Jul 17 2006, 11:26
I KNOW WHAT IT IS!
BIS will anounce an expansion pack for Operation Flashpoint, which they started to develop now in order to give the community something to play with, while we're waiting for Armed Assault!!!!!1111!111 http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/yay.gif
Placebo
Jul 17 2006, 11:27
Ok enough already http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/pistols.gif
Please restrict all FlashNews 100 discussion to the <a href="http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard311/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=60;t=52840" target="_blank">FlashNews
100 Thread</a>.
Updated with URL for new FlashNews 100 Thread http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
But that thread is locked?? That was extra evil to say continue discussion on a locked thread http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/mad_o.gif
meyamoti
Jul 17 2006, 11:57
I'm not sure where you see that the thread is locked,if it was earlier its not now.
I stand corrected...i downgrade my statement of "extra evil" to just evil....
I was thinking news thread....
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
meyamoti
Jul 17 2006, 21:16
Exactly how is it evil that he directs us to another thread that serves the purpose of the 17th/18th speculation rather than piling 3 or more pages onto this thread which would be off topic.
Although I have to admit the 100th flashnews page is rather amusing,all your F5 are belong to us..heh..
Praxtor
Jul 18 2006, 17:45
This is shameful This is shameful This is shameful This is shameful This is shameful This is shameful This is shameful
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http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/banghead.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/banghead.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/banghead.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/banghead.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/banghead.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/banghead.gif
ade_mcc
Jul 18 2006, 17:49
This is fantastic! scripting commands, configs and a whole lot more!
What were you expecting Praxtor?
Ukraineboy
Jul 18 2006, 18:20
This is shameful This is shameful This is shameful This is shameful This is shameful This is shameful This is shameful
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/pistols.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/pistols.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/pistols.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/pistols.gif
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/banghead.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/banghead.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/banghead.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/banghead.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/banghead.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/banghead.gif
They pounded it into your head, It's not Armed Assault related, It's not Armed Assault related, It's not Armed Assault related, It's not Armed Assault related Yet you still expected something great?! Christ, many forum members here already realized what it was. I knew about it for weeks, so did others. Be thankful! Not only do we get an amazing wiki to help our modding and the community, we get new screenshots as well.
CsonkaPityu
Jul 18 2006, 18:36
Praxtor is anticipating ArmA a bit too much for his own good.
I certainly don't want arma released yet, they still have Nogova buildings in the screenshots. I really hope those are placeholders.
Ukraineboy
Jul 18 2006, 18:55
Praxtor is anticipating ArmA a bit too much for his own good.
I certainly don't want arma released yet, they still have Nogova buildings in the screenshots. I really hope those are placeholders.
Uhm what, I don't see any Nogova buildings in those screenshots.
guyguy1
Jul 18 2006, 19:30
I recall from a couple of months ago a thread asking Placebo himself for a community Q&A session. He responded, telling us to remind him once "we seem to have found our path (or something like that)". Anyone wanna give him a try? (perhaps after his vacation).
Anyway, sweet wiki. Box cover looks nice, awesome!
CsonkaPityu
Jul 18 2006, 19:39
ukraineboy: http://www.imagedump.com/index.c....arned=y (http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=setandget&tp=437485&poll_id=0&category_id=19&warned=y)
Check the town of Vidlakov, south of Petrovice.
NeMeSiS
Jul 18 2006, 21:01
ukraineboy: http://www.imagedump.com/index.c....arned=y (http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=setandget&tp=437485&poll_id=0&category_id=19&warned=y)
Check the town of Vidlakov, south of Petrovice.
I dont see the problem with using those buildings as long as they fit the environment, which they do.
(and those buildings ARE updated to use normal maps etc, so they look just as good as the other buildings)
Commando84
Jul 19 2006, 00:06
yeah so what if there is like a a few of the old buildings from ofp resistance in the towns and stuff? They beefed them up with mappings and stuff. And btw why throw away something nice that still works? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif I think its fun that you get too see some objects that will make you think back to the days earlier in your childhood or earlier of your life. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
Strangely comforting thought http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
meyamoti
Jul 19 2006, 05:06
Till you see the group of T-72's comming down a road and once more you think. "Oh shit!"
CsonkaPityu
Jul 19 2006, 13:58
Well i think it looks like ass, but that's just me i guess.
Till you see the group of T-72's comming down a road and once more you think. "Oh shit!"
LOL, also a strangely comforting thought! http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
FriketMonkey
Jul 19 2006, 18:09
Don't care if a few buildings are still the same. The AI is the most important thing, that is what made OFP great. Hope the functions they mentioned in interviews will work out nice http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
armandobronca
Jul 19 2006, 23:26
am I the only one who likes to see a few of the old good flashpoint buildings in arma?
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/whistle.gif
Just a few http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
GimpyBassturd
Jul 21 2006, 05:44
I dont unerstand what you mean by A.I is most important, do you mean the AI , where they are complete mongloids but they can see and shoot a roach at 5 km
Stendac
Jul 21 2006, 06:55
I dont unerstand what you mean by A.I is most important, do you mean the AI , where they are complete mongloids but they can see and shoot a roach at 5 km
Well, it was supposed to have been pretty impressive when OFP first came out.
NeMeSiS
Jul 21 2006, 08:28
OFP AI is still quite impresive compared with newer games http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
*Thinks BF2, CoD2, BHD, etc etc)*
The only thing that came close was Far Cry's AI, and FEARs AI seemed smart, but its hard to see in such small enviroments http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
meyamoti
Jul 21 2006, 09:21
BF2 AI just run and shoot at ya,and if you get close enough they just take out the knife,makin em easy pickins,try that online and well..you'll get what you do to the AI.
FriketMonkey
Jul 21 2006, 10:41
Flashpoint AI is still great. Give them a few waypoints and they will fight, retreat, and all looks quite nice. All this can be done with 5 minutes messing around in the editor.
OFP AI is very versatile... Make your own Island, and they can still find their way moving around.
Some other games AI seems quite nice... But don't forget that most of it is scripted, and will give you the same expierence everytime.
Cheers http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
GimpyBassturd
Jul 21 2006, 12:38
Oh about the script, i could do basic things with the editor, but how did anyone know how to use that other complicated stuff for it, i remember combing through the manual but the instructions seemed to assume you already had a scripting degree from college
Oh another questions, one time a friend of mine and i tried to use the laser designator and a A-10 on a RTS game way back when OPF was still on gamespy but no matter what we did the A-10 wouldnt get any target reticul from the laser , anyone can shed some light on that?
stegman
Jul 21 2006, 13:30
Oh another questions, one time a friend of mine and i tried to use the laser designator and a A-10 on a RTS game way back when OPF was still on gamespy but no matter what we did the A-10 wouldnt get any target reticul from the laser , anyone can shed some light on that?
I think the laser only works for the AI rather than for other players.
Also, lets get back on track with the 'Latest updates' thing...
Do we have any?
long ago we have played a coop with a human pilot navigating a warthog and a small recon squad on the ground, one soldier equipped with one single laser designator. the a10 was airborne and began to seek for targets but couldn't id (a terror-lock-on was impossible with the current armament) the hostile tank that was hidden among houses, wrecks, thus a lot of additional "white signals" were visible through the aircraft's radar also.
sooner or later the recon squad had spotted the tank and began to focus it with the activated laser designator what causes a new "white signal" to appear on the radarscreen.
once the pilot had locked on the new "signal", he dropped the bomb at high altitude in the near of the spotting squad.
well, the bomb didn't hit the target at the first strike, but the second one was a hit and destroyed the hostile tank.
although i dont know exactly whether it was scripted or not, you can try it by yourself and a friend of course. try to lock on the soldier that has activated the designator and tell him to point to a target. Then drop the bomb somewhere in the near of the target. The result will show if it works or not http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
Espectro
Jul 21 2006, 14:27
It is offtopic, but to get back on track, let me explain how the laser designator works.
When a soldier armed with the designater aims (and activates) somewhere, the pilot in the A-10 will see a red (hostile) target in his HUD. Simply choose your LGB as weapon and lock on. Fly high (important), and simply release the bomb when the targeting system is locked on (When the square over the target turns into a diamond).
The soldier on the ground have to keep focusing on the target until the bomb hits.
If done like that, your bomb will 99% make a hit.
meyamoti
Jul 21 2006, 18:31
Oh another questions, one time a friend of mine and i tried to use the laser designator and a A-10 on a RTS game way back when OPF was still on gamespy but no matter what we did the A-10 wouldnt get any target reticul from the laser , anyone can shed some light on that?
I think the laser only works for the AI rather than for other players.
Also, lets get back on track with the 'Latest updates' thing...
Do we have any?
Yeah its called FN100 which isn't old,yeesh,what do you want an update every single day or something? How bout a free foot massage?
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