Release....

[zootso]

I've heard that AA is set for release in Q4 2005-unfortunalty, I've seen little or no news regarding AA on any game sites. Is this release date still confirmed?

[luemmel]

I do not believe that "ArA" will come out this year. I saw first online stores with an announcement of 1.Q. 2006. It seems that it is not so easy to find a publisher for this job.

So for myself, I bought last weekend a xbox :-) so I can be sure that i will play ofp with new features in less then 2 weeks  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif

[gandalf the white]

I'd really roll over laughing if it would say Arma had gone gold one day....

[StealthTiger]

Yes things are a little quiet.. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/whistle.gif

No new news, no new screenies, no new announcements, no new anything.. considering we're 1/2 way through October now.

[colossus]

Quote[/b] ]New additional screenshots for Armed Assault were added on our website today. You can see them in the left corner of this site. More screenshots and news will be available soon together with the new version of our official Armed Assault website
The big bomb is nearly set.
I'm guessing the publisher comes along with the new website.

Stay alert. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[Mr_Tea]

It is realy a little bit too quiet. I was hoping for a little info this days. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
@<hidden> Colossus
I`m on high alert, that you can bet on. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[crave22]

I do hope it&#39;s soon. Real soon. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

However, you all realise this is so locked. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/band.gif Just saying. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

[Jotte]

Maybe BIs is aiming for a "Shock and Awe" surprise release http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/nener.gif

[schmerzbringer]

Alert^2 http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

I think this thread will be closed soon. So I post also my opinion:

ARMA will come in Q4 2005, trust me. Except Placebo tell us a diffrence. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

[ExtracTioN]

I think ArmA will be released in early 2006 and CM is I think the publisher again http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/banghead.gif

[crave22]

Then what would be the point of calling it Armed Assault since CM owns the OFP name. They could still call it OFP if the publisher is CM. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/huh.gif Makes no sense.

[colossus]

I think ArmA will be released in early 2006 and CM is I think the publisher again http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/banghead.gif
I worry thats the case yes. Deadline is christmas, nothing happens before the next year after that. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/confused_o.gif
If nothing happens soon it&#39;s gone be 2006 before we get it.

I wouldn&#39;t pressure BIS to move the release forward, that would be fatal and alot of "casualties"
could be made if they do that. But it must be released sooner or later.

I still have faith, just need to hang on. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

[zootso]

Will do:)


Really lookin&#39; forward to it.

[Scrub]

*tick*

.....
.....
....&#33;

*tock*

http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/banghead.gif

Is time slowing down, or is it just me?

(As much as I hate saying it) Take your time BIS and do it right, as you have in the past.

@<hidden> - yup&#33; just waiting for the hammer to fall. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/nener.gif

[Heatseeker]

I also doubt ARMA will come out this year, it would hurt OFP Elite&#39;s sales badly http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif . That is problably why we dont see much advertising now, Arma should look better and people would just wait for the PC version instead of buying elite http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif .
BIS must be focusing on ARMA&#39;s development now that elite is finally gold, they will need to finish the game, deal with the publisher stuff, advertise and promote like crazy, etc.
Wouldnt make sense releasing a secret game just to meet a rough deadline, its unfortunate for us that suffer though but 2006 seems very likely http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif .

[Antichrist]

I also doubt ARMA will come out this year, it would hurt OFP Elite&#39;s sales badly http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif . That is problably why we dont see much advertising now, Arma should look better and people would just wait for the PC version instead of buying elite http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif .
Judging my those smilies you&#39;re not serious, but i&#39;ll correct you anyway. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
For average owner of XBOX there is nothing connecting ArmA and OFP: Elite. Most likely just the developer, but they won&#39;t really know that. As for OFP fans... I am sure as hell not buying OFP: Elite. I can&#39;t even imagine playing it with XBOX Controller after playing it from 4 years with keyboard + mouse. I might hire it for couple of days to see what it is like, but that&#39;s pretty much it..

[crave22]

Hopefully it&#39;s in time for me b-day at least. Note to self: new graphics card for Christmas. Also gonna need some more RAM. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif

@<hidden>
Hammer will fall any time now. And it will fall hard. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/whistle.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/nener.gif

[IzE]

Ok ok let me try a date... hmm (Cant we have somecind of lottery on this?) 21th January ? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/thumbs-up.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/inlove.gif

[Espectro]

Nice banner IzE http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

I think arma will be go gold the 4th january, and released the 20th here in europe.. While US and AU must wait until 1st february

[munchkin]

4th Jan? That&#39;s my bday&#33;

[Thunderbird]

I think we&#39;ll get ArmA before the end of this year for some reasons (Mainly commercial/financial ones...).
Christmas&#39;s the year&#39;s period which usually brings us a lot of games.
:P


Regards
TB84

[schmerzbringer]

4th Jan? That&#39;s my bday&#33;
ok http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

I heard the Release Date in Europe is 09. December 2005.

[Mr_Tea]

@<hidden> schmerzbringer
Where do you heard that? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/huh.gif

[schmerzbringer]

A fairy told me last night.

[Mr_Tea]

Dammit, i thought someone had an eye on the new Armed Assault website. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

[schmerzbringer]

We all wish that.

We have to wait, even it is hard.

Sorry for the joke.

[WhoCares]

Just to add to the speculation, maybe the &#39;technical reason&#39; to postpone the Flashnews is an annoucement of the ArmA release http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/whistle.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[Cozza]

I rekon Arma will be out by Xmas. BIS are propley taking some time off after getting hammered for getting rid of OFP: E.

[ANTH]

A little information would be good if its not comming this year, Im sure Bis would tell us if it wasnt so I guess its still q4.

Lack of advertisment and an exact date does puzzle me though with it being so close.

[4 IN 1]

Ok ok let me try a date... hmm (Cant we have somecind of lottery on this?) 21th January ?  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/thumbs-up.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/inlove.gif
hey thats my birthday&#33; http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/confused_o.gif

[nx_illusion]

Well BIS is only game maker i know who dont keep any contact to fans. They show news 2 times in a year, they do not tell whole features etc.. If everything will be only like *secret/surprise* stuff it will become very unliked.

[Commando84]

I think it will either november or decembr release http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
they are probably putting down the last pieces of the puzzle in still and polishing like crazy , making the cd cover and keeping in touch with a publisher or searching for one? maybe they are just waiting for the rigth moment like christmas when many games are sold http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/xmas_o.gif
just play the waiting game for now.. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[Goeth]

I also doubt ARMA will come out this year, it would hurt OFP Elite&#39;s sales badly http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif .
I really don´t see it that way, only thing that is going to hurt Elite´s sales are BF 2 to xbox which is going to be released 3 days before Elite, and that might hurt big time.

[KimTuomi]

After a careful consideration, I dare to post a humble opinion which kind of crossed my mind:

Any day when new Bohemia game is released is a birthday to all of us.

I sure hope that ArmA is out due christmas. No better gift for us, Mr. Spanel(s)&#33;

Thank you for wasting your time reading this meaningless post&#33; http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rofl.gif

[imported_bör]

silence before the storm. please let it be that way.

[StealthTiger]

Just to add to the speculation, maybe the &#39;technical reason&#39; to postpone the Flashnews is an annoucement of the ArmA release http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/whistle.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
Maybe just maybe... not http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wow_o.gif

[Heatseeker]

@<hidden> Oct. 18 2005,18:31)]
I also doubt ARMA will come out this year, it would hurt OFP Elite&#39;s sales badly http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif .
I really don´t see it that way, only thing that is going to hurt Elite´s sales are BF 2 to xbox which is going to be released 3 days before Elite, and that might hurt big time.
Thats positive and i dont know if OPF:E will represent much competition to BF2 but its probable that many people who played and liked OPF on the PC 4 years ago might wanna buy it for xbox to see what its like and the improvements BIS made. These wouldnt consider it if ARMA was to be released simultaniously. I am curious about elite but i dont console, i dont consider consoling and i have already played 85 and resistance campaigns plenty of times, i would definetly buy it if i had an xbox though but im interested in ARMA 1000 times more http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif .

[orange juice]

Could it be that BIS is going to wait and see how OFP-Elite sells on X-Box before they give a specific release date?

Just as an argument in publisher negotiations... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/pistols.gif

[schmerzbringer]

Could it be that BIS is going to wait and see how OFP-Elite sells on X-Box before they give a specific release date?

Just as an argument in publisher negotiations...  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/pistols.gif
I think: NO. There is no reason.

[ade_mcc]

Quote[/b] ]Well BIS is only game maker i know who dont keep any contact to fans. They show news 2 times in a year, they do not tell whole features etc.. If everything will be only like *secret/surprise* stuff it will become very unliked.

I dont think thats quite fair, if i&#39;ve understood you correctly.

Plenty of gamers from different game communities are moaning at any one time about the lack of progress or updates.

off the top of my head, STALKER, Prey, FEAR, DNF to name but 4, have all recently unrest in there forums from fans demanding news/progression.

Is it a bad thing? No, of course not.

Cant we just wait and see? Is the concept of suprise too much these days?

[schmerzbringer]

 Is the concept of suprise too much these days?
My brain says "no", my heart "YEEEES&#33;"



Any day when new Bohemia game is released is a birthday to all of us.

I hope, it will not be mine&#33; -> June http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif

BTW

some intressting Armed Assault offers:

Armed Assault by Patton http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000EZ0XS/qid=1129719204/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_unbuck_1/104-4161434-2209510?v=glance&s=videogames&n=229534)

How to Defend Yourself Against Armed Assault http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1583940081/qid=1129719204/sr=8-2/ref=sr_8__i1_xgl14/104-4161434-2209510?v=glance&s=books&n=229534)

[orange juice]

I think: NO. There is no reason.
well i´m not into publishing strategies, but i think the average publisher does have their very own release politics/schedules, so maybe a fixed release date would be their decision or at least be a matter of negotiations...

We don´t know if they have a deal with any publisher, be it codies or any other, by now. i think they would go public with that if they could.

[schmerzbringer]

Seems like ARMA has found his publisher&#33;

GamersHell (http://www.gamershell.com/pc/armed_assault/) <- look @<hidden> publisher&#33; http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rofl.gif

that could only be a mistake&#33;

[wmk]

http://www.cosmi.com/OnlineS....0000704 (http://www.cosmi.com/OnlineStore/ProductCatalog/ProductDetail.aspx?Matnr=W0000704)

http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rofl.gif  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rofl.gif

[ade_mcc]

Cosmi ?&#33;?

Can&#39;t be right, unless they are looking to branch out from top titles such as &#39;Texas Holdem Pro Tour Poker&#39; and &#39;Championship MahJongg Deluxe&#39;.

Bizzare

[Espectro]

OMG... I actually thought Codemasters was the worst publisher around.

I stand corrected...

[Raptor]

a publisher who published a 300 Arcade Game ? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/goodnight.gif

[wmk]

but seriously, I&#39;m afraid that there will be no game called Arma.. -it seems to me that BIS is going to develop OFP2 only and release it in 2006....  

BTW, in case it have not been published before:
http://www.geocities.com/pageunavailable/a2.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/pageunavailable/a3.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/pageunavailable/a5.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/pageunavailable/a6.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/pageunavailable/a7.jpg
-those are OFP2 pics, not Arma, and I know that BIS team is currently working on OFP2 with few freelancers, so.......
(but I can be wrong of course http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif and maybe  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/xmas_o.gif will give me something what would help me save the money -otherwise I will spent &#036;&#036;&#036;&#036; on VBS  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/confused_o.gif (or even &#036;&#036;&#036;&#036;&#036;&#036; ) http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

[ade_mcc]

Quote[/b] ]but seriously, I&#39;m afraid that there will be no game called Arma.. -it seems to me that BIS is going to develop OFP2 only and release it in 2006....

based on what? Facts?

[klavan]

@<hidden>
So you think bIS is cheating us? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/huh.gif
Maybe using the "silence tactic" to keep us wired to ofpR &#39;till next generation game?? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rofl.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rofl.gif
C&#39;mon.....
klavan

[imported_bör]

Seems like ARMA has found his publisher&#33;

GamersHell (http://www.gamershell.com/pc/armed_assault/) <- look @<hidden> publisher&#33; http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rofl.gif

that could only be a mistake&#33;
Never heard of this one. But its "300 Arcade Games" sound like a good offer. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/yay.gif

edit: All clear. gamershell mixed it up obviously. Look, what I&#39;ve found googling:
"Patton - Armed Assault"
http://www.dealtime.com/xPC-Cosmi_COSMI_Patton_Armed_Assault_Windows

[Kam2000]

Always the same http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/yay.gif

[StealthTiger]

Chasing rumour after speculation eh?


Quote[/b] ] &#39;Trying to understand is like straining through muddy water. Be still and allow the mud to settle.&#39; - Lao Tzu 6th Century B.C.

Think about it. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[Scrub]

You speak wisdom, grasshopper http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/thumbs-up.gif

[wmk]

based on what?  Facts?

ade_mcc
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif no, it&#39;s just my h opinion, based on tactics used by other software companies.. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif lets face it: look at the screenshots published officially by bis: there aren&#39;t many differences between them, and if you know (i know http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif ) that at least one person affiliated with bis is working on ofp2/next gen.pc/whatever it&#39;s called game only, theoretically you have the answer... (which is actually very sad) if arma = VBS1 it will not be rel. -without any major update to VBS bis will never release anything which is almost the same but for less money -it&#39;s obvious.... personally I think that there will be two new games next year: 1st VBS2, then OFP2, both based on the same engine.....
all right -cheers -roger and over  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/goodnight.gif  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[schmerzbringer]

http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wow_o.gif

http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/notworthy.gif

now I´m undeceived.

[Jotte]

wmk,
Good thing for you this forum isn&#39;t like the Wild West in which case you&#39;d be rolling in tar right now on your way to a appointment with a big pile of feathers.....
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/nener.gif

[Mr_Tea]

This is my official request for an official statement about the release date of Armed Assault. I`ll report this post to the moderators myself and hope we get some info. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/huh.gif

[Major Fubar]

*sigh* How many times do we need to tell you - BIS will announce a release date when BIS are ready to.

It&#39;s great to see the level of community enthusiasm, but really, constantly needling and harrassing them for info won&#39;t make it happen any sooner. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[Heatseeker]

if arma = VBS1 it will not be rel. -without any major update to VBS bis will never release anything which is almost the same but for less money -it&#39;s obvious.... personally I think that there will be two new games next year: 1st VBS2, then OFP2, both based on the same engine.....
Hmm, seems very doubtfull to me, sry.
Goes more like this imo:
Currently there&#39;s OPF:R and VBS1, both sharing the same engine with VBS1 slightly optimised and tweaked but still the same tech.
Coming next is OPF:E (xbox), same game but on a much improved and optimised engine, performance, lighting and shadows, colision detection, a.i. etc.
A much better and improved engine version by far.

The near future = Armed Assault and VBS2, both taking advantage of an improved engine, fruit of the hard labor and glorious achievement of enhancing and making Flashpoint run smooth and look better on a outdated and weak console system.
Armed Assault being a comercial, home entertaining, software product including OPF:R and new content.
VBS2 being what VBS1 was to OPF:
 
Quote[/b] ]VBS1 was therefore developed as the military alternative to OFP (OFP is licensed only for entertainment). BIA was given the task of converting the product
Both will problably not only take advantage of the improvements made for the xbox version but also current or recent PC HW.

Last in the far future comes "Game2", a whole new next generation graphics engine, a whole new game with new features.
I think your mistake was throwing vbs into the mix, VBS1 is not a home entertainment product, it takes advantage of available technology and is tailored and licensed for military use with BIA creating specific material on client demand.
This is my perception of things to come, ofcourse nothing is definite but it seems to be what BIS is planning to achieve http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif .

Usually im never wrong, really http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/whistle.gif .

[SpecOp9]

*sigh* How many times do we need to tell you - BIS will announce a release date when BIS are ready to.

It&#39;s great to see the level of community enthusiasm, but really, constantly needling and harrassing them for info won&#39;t make it happen any sooner.  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
Show a monkey the banana locked in the cage, he&#39;s gonna ask when the doors will open until he knows.

I predict ArmA Coming in Q1 of 06, and I predict OFP2 coming spring of 06.


Who wants to bet. I put down &#036;10 any takers?

[DrBobcat]

Spring 2006 for OFP2? As in codemaster&#39;s release or NextGen Game? Because there sure as hell ain&#39;t anyway nextgen is gonna be released until at LEAST late next year. However, I totally agree with your guess on ArAs in Q1 2k6... but I still think that they could do a (still) strong release @<hidden> around christmas because the game looks quite complete already....

Although since we do not know who the publisher is (or even if they have chosen one), we cannot make any real firm predictions, nor do I think we should. Just keep checking up on the forums and wait for news. No point begging the zookeeper, as a previous anology stated - he ain&#39;t gonna open it until it&#39;s time to be free http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/nener.gif

Caz

(I sure as hell wish he would toss us a piece once in a while http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/pistols.gif )

[Placebo]

I`ll report this post to the moderators myself and hope we get some info. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/huh.gif
Please do not misuse the "report post to moderator function", it&#39;s to be used only when there is a rule breaking type problem on the forums http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

[Espectro]

Dont worry, ArmA will be out... hopefully this year or very early next year :-)

I know they have over 10 people working on ArmA right now in Pragh, while the OFP2 team is stationed elsewhere in Czech.

[Mr_Tea]

@<hidden> Placebo
I have to say sorry for this misbehavior, but it`s about time to get some info. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/notworthy.gif

[spoock]

team witch worked on OFP Xbox is moved on ARMA - Q4 2004 is really possible deadline http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/yay.gif

Good gift from BIS to Community MERRY XMAS http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/xmas_o.gif

[HitmanFF]

team witch worked on OFP Xbox is moved on ARMA - Q4 2004 is really possible deadline http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/yay.gif
Sorry, I just couldn&#39;t resist http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
They won&#39;t make that deadline unless they have a time machine http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[EiZei]

I said it almost a month ago and I say it again.. the christmas release date is for those truly optimistic.

[=|[T0]|=]

Is it bad to dream about flashpoint when you have been in iraq for about a year and havent played it that long? I mean....all i do is get on the forums everyday and look at the new pics coming out.... I wont lie...im a feen. They could come out with AA mid next year for all i care. Just keep the screenies coming. Im feening here&#33; Im stuck here watching this bum aZZ BF2 player and it&#39;s killing me&#33;

[Jezz]

when bis said the 4th quarter im starting to think they meant the 4th quarter of the finacial year http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif

[=|[T0]|=]

4TH QTR Army Fiscal Year? Haha who cares...give me more screenies and two or three bomb A55 vidoes&#33;

[wmk]

[...]I think your mistake was throwing vbs into the mix, VBS1 is not a home entertainment product, it takes advantage of available technology and is tailored and licensed for military use with BIA creating specific material on client demand.
This is my perception of things to come, ofcourse nothing is definite but it seems to be what BIS is planning to achieve http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif .

Usually im never wrong, really http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/whistle.gif .
hehe will see will see.. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
(but maybe you are right -in this case it would be good but not great...(=no xmas this year..))
(btw you didn&#39;t convince me because we already know from modmakers working on VBS1 mods and cooperating with BIA that Arma = VBS1, so...)


@<hidden>
me &#036;10 for VBS2 in mid 2006 and OFP2 in Q3 2006  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
who will gonna be a banker? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif (->Placebo..?) http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

[Heatseeker]

(btw you didn&#39;t convince me because we already know from modmakers working on VBS1 mods and cooperating with BIA that Arma = VBS1, so...)
Good lord, no http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif , re-read my previous post please. If that was the case we would be better off with xbox OPF:elite.
I think you are confused, its probable that both the comercial ARMA game and future VBS2 product will utilise the same technology but they are distinct products with completely diferent purposes http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif .

[wmk]

maybe...
btw please don&#39;t take me worng: I dont&#39; want to discuss here just for prove that I&#39;m right because (for example) I&#39;m insane or have some other problems http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif -but only because I have one problem now: to buy VBS1 now or to wait to the end of the year or more for Armaor OFP2..... (why to go with VBS..? --it&#39;s a different story...)
(and I&#39;m a pessimist as you probably already know  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[Heatseeker]

Well, after watching user made VBS1 movies and OPF elite ones with all the engine gameplay and graphics improvements i think patience would be rewarded regarding future OPF and VBS versions but we are leading this off topic http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif .
Im done speculating ARMA&#39;s release now too, i just hope the new website will be up soon with new pics and info http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif .

[colossus]

Im done speculating ARMA&#39;s release now too, i just hope the new website will be up soon with new pics and info http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif .
I&#39;m guessing again: Right after the release of OFP: Elite in Europe or very early next month.

[Heatseeker]

Im done speculating ARMA&#39;s release now too, i just hope the new website will be up soon with new pics and info http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif .
I&#39;m guessing again: Right after the release of OFP: Elite in Europe or very early next month.
You mean the site update? Yes maybe mid November, the sooner the better ofcourse, hoping Placebo will show off his great tactics and skill providing us with Arma gameplay footage in the future http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rofl.gif .

[Major Fubar]

Show a monkey the banana locked in the cage, he&#39;s gonna ask when the doors will open until he knows.
Dammit, you are men not monkeys&#33; Show those lousy tree swingers who&#39;s top of the evolutionary ladder, and excercise some patience&#33; http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif

Seriously, yes, we know how desperately people want a concrete release date. I remember pacing in front of my PC like a caged tiger when the Resistance expansion was released, desperately waiting for it to hit Australia.

I know your pain...but your patience will be rewarded... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[Mr_Tea]

I´m sure it will, once i hold my copy of Armed Assault in my hands. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

[wmk]

I know your pain...but your patience will be rewarded...  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
...and your wishes will be granted  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[crave22]

You mods probably calculate time as:

PArmA
TH

PArmA = Pre Armed Assault = Peaceful Time

TH = After Armed Assault Confirmed = People Bugging You = Total Hell for Mods

Once it is released, a new era of peace shall reign throughout the BI Forums. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif

[hardrock]

I suppose the release will be around mid 06. But any discussion about the ArmA release is useless anyway. It&#39;s the same as if we&#39;d discuss the existence of aliens ... we&#39;ll never know until we find them.

[MattXR]

well we all know its not an 05 release.. im sure its 2 late into the year for that now.. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

unless someone is going to spend a hell of a lot of money on advertising http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/huh.gif

[crave22]

Who knows, maybe all the commercials and trailers are already made and BIS is waiting for the right moment to release all. Hopefully, if this were the case, that right moment was soon.

[StealthTiger]

When the time is right... Untill then we&#39;ll just have to look out and await any new developments.

[Scrub]

And when it does come out, the only way someone will get it away from me is if they pry it from my cold dead hands http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif  (This IS digital crack, isn&#39;t it?http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif )

[echo1]

Who knows, maybe all the commercials and trailers are already made and BIS is waiting for the right moment to release all. Hopefully, if this were the case, that right moment was soon.
who says that BIS will have a big ad campaign? I mean, they&#39;d get more than enough sales from the denziens of flashpoint fanatics (which I proudly consider myself to be one of) I mean look at HL2, there was practically no commercialization of it, but it sold like mad.

[Commando84]

ch_123 is right&#33; The fans will make the game be sold , heard and played http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

[Sanyix]

LOL (http://www.mx2.co.uk/default.asp?part=PC948) or they just mix up ofp2 with armed assault? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif I hope they do, and arma will be released on 7th of november http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

[orange juice]

LOL (http://www.mx2.co.uk/default.asp?part=PC948)
where did they get that cover photograph? made it by themselves? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rofl.gif

[Sanyix]

LOL (http://www.mx2.co.uk/default.asp?part=PC948)
where did they get that cover photograph? made it by themselves?   http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rofl.gif
Yeah, and i think it was very hard work http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif

[orange juice]

Is that advertising text borrowed from codemasters` press release? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

[nx_illusion]

aaahhh who the hell cares now.. There is coming lots of good 3D action/war games from other game makers. Bis are making very very slow work if it takes 4 years to make a 1.5 update.

[ziiip]

aaahhh who the hell cares now.. There is coming lots of good 3D action/war games from other game makers. Bis are making very very slow work if it takes 4 years to make a 1.5 update.
:crazy:Don&#39;t mind it, but they were working on 3 games at the same time. OFP Xbox, ArmA and OFP2.

Think before acting...

[Raptor]

you forgot VBS and the VBS Modules. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

[EddyBoy]

BIS dont make them, BIA do.

[Raptor]

VBS Development Team (http://www.virtualbattlefieldsystems.com/development.html) http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

[Metal Heart]

Quote[/b] ]aaahhh who the hell cares now.. There is coming lots of good 3D action/war games from other game makers.

How do you know that they&#39;re good before they&#39;re released?
How many of these good war games are really even the same genre as OFP?

[Goeth]

How do you know that they&#39;re good before they&#39;re released?
How many of these good war games are really even the same genre as OFP?
Not many, i found only one and that is Enemy In Sight.

[gabgab]

How many of these good war games are really even the same genre as OFP?
Not a single one.

(And please don&#39;t mention BF2 - it&#39;s a nice game but nowhere near OFP except it deals also with military)

[gabgab]

@<hidden> Oct. 23 2005,18:14)]Not many, i found only one and that is Enemy In Sight.
Why? Because of the nice screenshots? I remember Vietcong and H&D2 (also from Illusion Softworks) both had nice screenshots but the real games didn&#39;t deliver anything flashpointish. Let&#39;s wait & see ...

[AUS_Twisted]

Hollywood style games with these cool effects and graphics with very average gameplay are what the younger gamers buy, theres more money to be made with them. I&#39;m just glad some companies stick to the Simulation side of things in both military and racing games as I like both.

[Goeth]

@<hidden> Oct. 23 2005,18:14)]Not many, i found only one and that is Enemy In Sight.
Why? Because of the nice screenshots? I remember Vietcong and H&D2 (also from Illusion Softworks) both had nice screenshots but the real games didn&#39;t deliver anything flashpointish. Let&#39;s wait & see ...
Well it might be too early to say but the screenshots look very much like ofp. Personally i didn´t expect anything like ofp from Vietcong or H&D2, i knew they were going to be small scale fps shooters.

[AG.]

Hollywood style games with these cool effects and graphics with very average gameplay are what the younger gamers buy, theres more money to be made with them. I&#39;m just glad some companies stick to the Simulation side of things in both military and racing games as I like both.
I totaly agree with you&#33; We see only hundreds of Holywood type games on the market. Sometimes i think that those are made like: "buy it, use it once, throw it away". Like hamburgers. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/confused_o.gif Of course it puts lots of money into makers pocket. They get idea, makes it smohow and puts on market, then they get new idea .. and so on and on ...
BIs team - Europeans and that says everything ...

[Placebo]

aaahhh who the hell cares now.. There is coming lots of good 3D action/war games from other game makers. Bis are making very very slow work if it takes 4 years to make a 1.5 update.
Repeatedly making negative comments is tantamount to trolling, if you no longer are capable of saying anything remotely positive please refrain from posting.

[Soul_Assassin]

Hollywood style games with these cool effects and graphics with very average gameplay are what the younger gamers buy, theres more money to be made with them. I&#39;m just glad some companies stick to the Simulation side of things in both military and racing games as I like both.
oh yeh and also dont forget that as we get all these amaizing graphical improvements and games become more and more realistic the gameplay times are becoming rediculously short. A great example would be FEAR where most people we confused as the final product was just a bit longer than the demo (exagerated of course but still very short). So the game industries should rather concentrate on making games fun and long and not super real (just what BIS is doing http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif). I tired of companies claiming that they have the biggest playtime, meanwhile its true just because their super duper new engine runs at 0.23 FPS on my 64bit processor. fun.

[Raptor]

aaahhh who the hell cares now.. There is coming lots of good 3D action/war games from other game makers. Bis are making very very slow work if it takes 4 years to make a 1.5 update.
Repeatedly making negative comments is tantamount to trolling, if you no longer are capable of saying anything remotely positive please refrain from posting.
but he can say his public opinion, can&#39;t he? [it&#39;s a publicforum]

i think it&#39;s like a censor. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/confused_o.gif

Raptor http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/mad_o.gif

[Dowie100]

We are just fed up with the xbox version getting videos and screenshots left right and centre. While we the people that made OFP such a sucess have about 15 screenshots and no info... Its just so close to your release estimate with no news we are just concerned thats all.

[klavan]

Reading these posts I can feel excitement, impatience, entuxiasm, sarcasm and so on.....
I wonder if I&#39;m the only one that&#39;s feeling scared about all the mods teams that are dying or switching to something else (maybe vbs1), mission makers that are tired to work in the ofp&#39;s limited environments, addon makers that are ceasing their activities waiting for news but with the concrete risk that they turn their attention to other games......
I&#39;m sure that BIS is not cheating us about ArmA (it simply doesn&#39;t make sense), but at this point I think it&#39;s clear that the future of community is on the razor&#39;s edge.
Yes, we can espect a wave of new players (and new modders/addons makers/mission designer with &#39;em) following it&#39;s release, but what&#39;s the cost of all this?
The experience that could be wasted in the meanwhile is an high toll to pay......
This is what I&#39;m worried about.....
Klavan

[colt]

I think a lot of this confusion could have been prevented if they had staggered their Press Announcements. In the space of a couple of months we&#39;ve had news that Xbox Elite is nearly finished, the announcment of Armed Assault and Game 2 and they have commitments to VBS1 community.

All of these communities want info on their particular product. Add to this the confusion surrounding Publishers and nothing concrete is coming out and of course this leads to (wild) speculation...

But I&#39;m confident BIS will do what&#39;s best for everyone. Just hope the AI routines and collision detection from Elite make their way into ArmA &#33;

[AG.]

Hei ... fellas ... please stop speculating like that (its nonsence&#33; It just hurts my feelings&#33; I am 100% sure that BIs is not playing with us (that ArmA is just cheap PR )&#33; That would be unbelieveble if that would be true http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif ... thousands of fans would come to Prague protesting and shouting ... WE WANT ARMA WE WANT ARMA&#33; http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/banghead.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/banghead.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/banghead.gif
Then the riot would start near the BIs walls ... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/pistols.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/pistols.gif Hundreds of insured, burned cars, broken windows. Police shooting at riot with plastic bullets.

http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif BIs wont do that, thats impossible it would mean the end of BIs http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/goodnight.gif

So i still support the idea: lets wait, and hope that it will come as stated (Q4 05) ... and speculate ... a little bit ... just tiny tiny speculation among fans in the huge labirint of BIs forums away from Placebos eyes http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif

[AiRBLaDE]

I heard the United States will not have a publisher for AA, is this true? I hope thats not true http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif .

[Heatseeker]

I heard the United States will not have a publisher for AA, is this true?  I hope thats not true  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif .
Source? At this time everything that doesnt come out of BIS mouth should be disregarded, let OPF:E hit the shelves, im sure we will hear more about ARMA soon after that http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif .

[Jakerod]

I heard that chimps took over BIS&#39; headquarters and are forcing them to do slave work for them.

Seriously though, I agree with Heatseeker that we will probably hear something when OFP:E hits the shelves. I am thinking that maybe on October 28th we will get some news because that would be exactly one month from when the new screenshots were put on the Armed Assault site.

Keep up the good work BIS, fight off those evil evil chimps.

[Scrub]

Are you guys saying take a deep breath, and relax for a while?
Or maybe, after ArmA comes out, the mod makers will come back out from the abyss to make addons for such a great game?
Or maybe now&#39;s the time to enjoy the outdoors before the cold weather really gets going?

Hmm, if so..  Ok&#33;  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

[Jakerod]

Don&#39;t know about there, but it was freezing here today. But then again maybe you are right maybe I should go enjoy the nice fall colors outside while I wait for my dream game.

[Placebo]

aaahhh who the hell cares now.. There is coming lots of good 3D action/war games from other game makers. Bis are making very very slow work if it takes 4 years to make a 1.5 update.
Repeatedly making negative comments is tantamount to trolling, if you no longer are capable of saying anything remotely positive please refrain from posting.
but he can say his public opinion, can&#39;t he? [it&#39;s a publicforum]

i think it&#39;s like a censor. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/confused_o.gif

Raptor http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/mad_o.gif
You&#39;re welcome to search his posts over the last couple of months to see where I&#39;m coming from.

Making your opinion known once or twice on similar issues is fine, repeatedly beating the forum with your opinion of sorrow and woe and angst is not fine.

[schmerzbringer]

Yes yes but I think: Why not?

Maybe it´s his way to tell us that he is waiting for Arma as hard as we do.

Not everyone can write his opinion in so a "polite" way as you do or most of us.

But he is joining us, and he spends his time in this forum, so he is a great BIS-Fan too, of course.

[DrBobcat]

Quote[/b] ]Placebo- You&#39;re welcome to search his posts over the last couple of months to see where I&#39;m coming from.

Making your opinion known once or twice on similar issues is fine, repeatedly beating the forum with your opinion of sorrow and woe and angst is not fine.

+


Quote[/b] ]schmerzbringer-Yes yes but I think: Why not?

Maybe it´s his way to tell us that he is waiting for Arma as hard as we do.

Not everyone can write his opinion in so a "polite" way as you do or most of us.

But he is joining us, and he spends his time in this forum, so he is a great BIS-Fan too, of course.

I think what he is trying to say, shmerz, is that sharing your opinions are one thing, constant negativity and a lack of constructive comments are another.  Placebo isn&#39;t trying to run a dictatorship, nor is he censoring anybody. It&#39;s his job. Duh

Well I can see where some of nx-illusion&#39;s comments are coming from (I too am anxious about the whole damn dilemma), some of his comments were plain-and-simply rash and not well thought-out. BIS is a very small company in comparison to others. It was/is working on 3+ games at once. Not to mention publisher woes which would most defintely interfere with development. Think twice before playing the "bitch card." It makes you look like a n00b.

Now I ain&#39;t a "mindless fanboy". I just have common sense. And yes, I know you are all anxious about ArAs, but good things come to those who wait. (Yes, I know, that&#39;s been said a lot too.) Suck it up. Sit up straight. Grow some balls (or ovaries, you ladies) and calm down.

Information WILL be released when it&#39;s READY to be released...

http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/mad_o.gif Caz http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/goodnight.gif

[schmerzbringer]

I think I understood placebo.

But I think I understand nx_illusions´s resentment also.
His writing type is serious, that´s right, but I try to understand his motivation too.

However.

ARMA ´ll come earlier or later, who cares, as long it comes...

[snoops_213]

http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rofl.gif
@<hidden> Well said, and nuff said&#33;

One note of intrest was a recent OFP:E preview by a forum member saying that there are/were a number of teams working on ArmA/ Game2 while he was at BIS HQ. So do we really believe that ArmA is a joke? Looking forward to some news (gonna shit when the games actually comes out, yes its coming), as I hit all the ArmA sites as soon as I get online http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif

PS. Build it and they will come(back). http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/whistle.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

[nx_illusion]

aaahhh who the hell cares now.. There is coming lots of good 3D action/war games from other game makers. Bis are making very very slow work if it takes 4 years to make a 1.5 update.
Repeatedly making negative comments is tantamount to trolling, if you no longer are capable of saying anything remotely positive please refrain from posting.
but he can say his public opinion, can&#39;t he? [it&#39;s a publicforum]

i think it&#39;s like a censor. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/confused_o.gif

Raptor http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/mad_o.gif
You&#39;re welcome to search his posts over the last couple of months to see where I&#39;m coming from.

Making your opinion known once or twice on similar issues is fine, repeatedly beating the forum with your opinion of sorrow and woe and angst is not fine.
Your Evil @<hidden>&#33;"¤Ł@<hidden>��Ł&#036;&#33;&#33;&#33; Ban me if you want thats anyway best you can do on this forums... If we cannot say our opinions&#33; Yes i know this is your forum but anyway you have to realise that very very small mount of people is playing OFP&#33; Its over OFP is DEAD and if Armed Assault or what ever you will call it will have only a some freaking update than i can say you have failed&#33; And those people who are yelling all the time ooohh... this is OFP its so realistic very good gameplay etc etc... Thats all bullshit&#33;


WAKE UP&#33;&#33; There is lots of games that are good 3D action. Games arent suppost to train people to kill with somekinda of "war simulators" Games are made to have fun, enjoy your time, not for killing russians (BTW czech did it very directly against Russians i think they still have negative opinions about russians in Prague)

Well iam out of here&#33; Wont play AA or OFP this is my opinion&#33; Iam sure that AA is made only to get some pocketmoney for BIS&#33; Making an update for 4 years??.. You really must suck&#33;

I know soon Placebo will remove this post&#33; Becouse he knows but can not accept this&#33; You must be really a shimed&#33;

cya in the next life when you will make your second update&#33; nx_illusion OUT&#33;

[Raptor]

aaahhh who the hell cares now.. There is coming lots of good 3D action/war games from other game makers. Bis are making very very slow work if it takes 4 years to make a 1.5 update.
Repeatedly making negative comments is tantamount to trolling, if you no longer are capable of saying anything remotely positive please refrain from posting.
but he can say his public opinion, can&#39;t he? [it&#39;s a publicforum]

i think it&#39;s like a censor. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/confused_o.gif

Raptor http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/mad_o.gif
You&#39;re welcome to search his posts over the last couple of months to see where I&#39;m coming from.

Making your opinion known once or twice on similar issues is fine, repeatedly beating the forum with your opinion of sorrow and woe and angst is not fine.
Your Evil @<hidden>&#33;"¤Ł@<hidden>��Ł&#036;&#33;&#33;&#33; Ban me if you want thats anyway best you can do on this forums...Its over OFP is DEAD and if Armed Assault or what ever you will call it will have only a some freaking update than i can say you have failed&#33; And those people who are yelling all the time ooohh... this is OFP its so realistic very good gameplay etc etc... Thats all bullshit&#33;
Thats bullshit&#33;

OFP have a big community, the community here is bigger than most of other communities.

Not permitted to say his own opinion is one thing, but to to make the Community and special OFP down isn&#39;t acceptable&#33;

Raptor http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/mad_o.gif

[AUS_Twisted]

That post makes me laugh, just think how long it&#39;s taken some of the most popular games to be developed in recent times.

[schmerzbringer]

I....

I....

I want to annul my previous posts.

nx_Illusion, please go http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/goodnight.gif . I think you haven´t sleep for a long long time, a year?

[D.murphy man]

Rofl. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rofl.gif @<hidden> nx_illusion

[Shadow]

Do what we do, ignore nx_illusion&#39;s post and move on with the topic  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
@<hidden>: I suggest you stop pushing it.

[SniperAndy]

so i wonder,
what has all that to do with the release of AA?
...looking... last update for SWAT4 was... yeah remember now...when they added all the advertising being streamed right into the game. as many many games will do in the future...

really a shame "nobody" plays OFP / VBS anymore... BIS could have added all the advertisement too then....**joking** LOL

[XeLSiS]

I do not believe that "ArA" will come out this year. I saw first online stores with an announcement of 1.Q. 2006. It seems that it is not so easy to find a publisher for this job.

So for myself, I bought last weekend a xbox :-) so I can be sure that i will play ofp with new features in less then 2 weeks  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif
A bit late reply like usual with me lol, I donno if anyone noticed my "interview with Placebo" in August but I confirmed that there were enough large and small publishing companies to do a world release that were interested in contracting with BIS so I believe the delay of ArmA is due to the fact that the Engine is not where they want it to be at so they are delaying release info etc.. I mean com&#39;n you actually expect them to release the ArmA with screenshots of "converted" abrams and tanks, the only things new i&#39;ve seen in the arma shots are vegetation, landscape detail, and soldiers... They&#39;re probably still working on the Vehicles, etc right now...

so I wouldnt be surprised if they delayed the release... again http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rofl.gif

[Raptor]

? They want to release the game in 2-3 month and haven&#39;t complete any vehicles or soldiermodels? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

[Mr Reality]

the only things new i&#39;ve seen in the arma shots are vegetation, landscape detail, and soldiers... They&#39;re probably still working on the Vehicles, etc right now...
I too noticed this and was thinking that if Arma was just a slightly updated version of OFP then i&#39;d be a bit pissed off but i&#39;m hopeing there, as you say, working on the vehicle models. Still, me being a "super" fan will still buy it  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

How about if BIS are delaying Arma it&#39;s because they want the "real" OFP maniacs to buy the Elite version first so they spend twice as much money.... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif

[Radnik]

How about if BIS are delaying Arma it&#39;s because
... there`s preparation for big, Elite release , party http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wow_o.gif

http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/3638/36ll.gif (http://imageshack.us)

[brataccas]

I actually wish BIS would rush the armed assault release and quickly release it, I know this sounds dumb but thats where expansions come in, to finish off what they never managed to do in the desired timeframe etc http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

[MattXR]

i dont have an x-box so all that news and trailers doesnt excite me one bit http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/huh.gif

Thats why i need AA news http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/yay.gif i cant wait untill the AA website is up and running..

@<hidden> -- its not been four years for an update.. They made Res, also they have been making 3 games at once.. it will be a record..

[snoops_213]

@<hidden> http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rofl.gif No one is saying you cant have an opinion. Just stop with the bullshit ranting. Its not warrentted or needed. It does noone good and if you are that pissed off go to an abuse channel(irc) and do it there not here. No offence intended but if you are gonna be that childish, then cya&#33; go to BF2 and piss them off.

Ladies and Gentlemen, Placebo said in his last interview regarding ArmA that it is starting to turn into game2 by itself. Could this be a reason for a delay, maybe they are doing more than we thinK? Anyone remeber Falcon 4.0? It took them 5+ yrs to release and when it did come out it was buggy as hell, a delay of 6months is nothing nowdays. Go BIS and I hope the OFP:E team who are moving over to ArmA will help speed things up somewhat.

[Skulleye]

To be fair, the two videos that were recently released of OFP: Elite showcases features that will probably also be in Armed Assault. We got a look at how the grass were implemented, and how vegetation would move with the wind and be affected helicopter rotors. There was also bump mapping (or normal mapping?) and detail texturing. Lastly, we got to see more of the updated water, which looks very good http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

And correct me if I&#39;m wrong, but didn&#39;t we get a look at insects in the first video? I also thought the explosions looked a little updated. Not to forget the bouncing grenade, even if that&#39;s not exactly new http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

I could understand complaining a month or two back, when we hadn&#39;t heard anything in a long time. I complained too back then. But right now I&#39;m satisfied with what we have.

[Chip]

(BTW czech did it very directly against Russians i think they still have negative opinions about russians in Prague)
That&#39;s true, unfortunately. Even the Red Hammer campaign was totally ruined by switching sides. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/mad_o.gif Though I think it was done mainly to appeal to all the western fanboys. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/confused_o.gif

[EiZei]

(BTW czech did it very directly against Russians i think they still have negative opinions about russians in Prague)
That&#39;s true, unfortunately. Even the Red Hammer campaign was totally ruined by switching sides. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/mad_o.gif Though I think it was done mainly to appeal to all the western fanboys. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/confused_o.gif
I know I am going way off-topic but a soviet contigent led by a crazy rogue general abusing civilians is anything but unplausible. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif

[colossus]

Is there a possibility to revive OFPN when ArmA comes out?
The site still looks pretty good to me http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

[kavoven]

(BTW czech did it very directly against Russians i think they still have negative opinions about russians in Prague)
That&#39;s true, unfortunately. Even the Red Hammer campaign was totally ruined by switching sides. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/mad_o.gif Though I think it was done mainly to appeal to all the western fanboys. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/confused_o.gif
I know I am going way off-topic but a soviet contigent led by a crazy rogue general abusing civilians is anything but unplausible. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif
Yeah, the Retalation Campagin (Or how it was called) was much much better and I not only mean the storyline http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

[stakex]

aaahhh who the hell cares now.. There is coming lots of good 3D action/war games from other game makers. Bis are making very very slow work if it takes 4 years to make a 1.5 update.
Repeatedly making negative comments is tantamount to trolling, if you no longer are capable of saying anything remotely positive please refrain from posting.
but he can say his public opinion, can&#39;t he? [it&#39;s a publicforum]

i think it&#39;s like a censor. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/confused_o.gif

Raptor http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/mad_o.gif
You&#39;re welcome to search his posts over the last couple of months to see where I&#39;m coming from.

Making your opinion known once or twice on similar issues is fine, repeatedly beating the forum with your opinion of sorrow and woe and angst is not fine.
Your Evil @<hidden>&#33;"¤Ł@<hidden>��Ł&#036;&#33;&#33;&#33; Ban me if you want thats anyway best you can do on this forums... If we cannot say our opinions&#33; Yes i know this is your forum but anyway you have to realise that very very small mount of people is playing OFP&#33; Its over OFP is DEAD and if Armed Assault or what ever you will call it will have only a some freaking update than i can say you have failed&#33; And those people who are yelling all the time ooohh... this is OFP its so realistic very good gameplay etc etc... Thats all bullshit&#33;


WAKE UP&#33;&#33; There is lots of games that are good 3D action. Games arent suppost to train people to kill with somekinda of "war simulators" Games are made to have fun, enjoy your time, not for killing russians (BTW czech did it very directly against Russians i think they still have negative opinions about russians in Prague)

Well iam out of here&#33; Wont play AA or OFP this is my opinion&#33; Iam sure that AA is made only to get some pocketmoney for BIS&#33; Making an update for 4 years??.. You really must suck&#33;

I know soon Placebo will remove this post&#33; Becouse he knows but can not accept this&#33; You must be really a shimed&#33;

cya in the next life when you will make your second update&#33; nx_illusion OUT&#33;
Acctually, OFP has one of the strongest and longest lasting communities I have ever seen for a non-mmorpg game. I&#39;ll bet any ammount of money that no where near as many people are playing BF2 in 4 years... so why we are enjoying our realistic, tactical war game that was can play for years and not do the same mission... you will be off... captureing bases over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over again in BF2 till you get board after a month.

OFP dosnt teach you to kill any more then BF2 or any other game does. It just make the game more dynamic, with realistic missions, and non static gameplay. And a game set durring the Cold War... Hmmmmm I wonder whos going to be fighting who. Obviouslly its going to be west vs east... its a fact of life. Not "We hate russia, so they are who you are going to fight". You very well cant make a game called Cold War Crisis, and have the US fighting Austrailia or something....

Anyway, that update they are makeing will be a great update to a great game. If you knew anything about Arma you would know, that they have not been working on it for 4 years. It was an idea they got from makeing the Xbox game. Originally there was going to be no Arma, just Game 2. But to hold us over, they are makeing ArmA... its actually a smart move, and one that will make OFP fans happy.

One thing about your post bothers me tho... why the hell did you make an account to post here, when you dont even play OFP? You came here just to bash the developers and make an idiot out of your self? You know nothing about either game obviouslly, and have one hell of an attitude problem. Its quite obvious that you are just some 10 year old BF2 fan who things people who dont like repedativ run and gun games are losers. Well, your the loser here man.

Sorry for the off topic post guys, just my rant for the year.

[AG.]

aaahhh who the hell cares now.. There is coming lots of good 3D action/war games from other game makers. Bis are making very very slow work if it takes 4 years to make a 1.5 update.
Repeatedly making negative comments is tantamount to trolling, if you no longer are capable of saying anything remotely positive please refrain from posting.
but he can say his public opinion, can&#39;t he? [it&#39;s a publicforum]

i think it&#39;s like a censor. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/confused_o.gif

Raptor http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/mad_o.gif
You&#39;re welcome to search his posts over the last couple of months to see where I&#39;m coming from.

Making your opinion known once or twice on similar issues is fine, repeatedly beating the forum with your opinion of sorrow and woe and angst is not fine.
Your Evil @<hidden>&#33;"¤Ł@<hidden>��Ł&#036;&#33;&#33;&#33; Ban me if you want thats anyway best you can do on this forums... If we cannot say our opinions&#33; Yes i know this is your forum but anyway you have to realise that very very small mount of people is playing OFP&#33; Its over OFP is DEAD and if Armed Assault or what ever you will call it will have only a some freaking update than i can say you have failed&#33; And those people who are yelling all the time ooohh... this is OFP its so realistic very good gameplay etc etc... Thats all bullshit&#33;


WAKE UP&#33;&#33; There is lots of games that are good 3D action. Games arent suppost to train people to kill with somekinda of "war simulators" Games are made to have fun, enjoy your time, not for killing russians (BTW czech did it very directly against Russians i think they still have negative opinions about russians in Prague)

Well iam out of here&#33; Wont play AA or OFP this is my opinion&#33; Iam sure that AA is made only to get some pocketmoney for BIS&#33; Making an update for 4 years??.. You really must suck&#33;

I know soon Placebo will remove this post&#33; Becouse he knows but can not accept this&#33; You must be really a shimed&#33;

cya in the next life when you will make your second update&#33; nx_illusion OUT&#33;
1. I dont think Placebo will BAN you for your opinion, even if you wrote it rudely.

2. I agree that BIs took too much time making Arma ... i agree that BIs had no plan for the future and now rush all the things a little bit. And that pisses me off as well.

3. I am playing OFP for 4 years now and i support your opinion that OFP have hit its limits and in the future it will be in our memories. Even if the comunity is large, even if community made lots of addons, anyways, addons incopability issues are making communities work worthless. Evryday somebody makes some addons, but day after day those addons are forgotten and nobody even uses them. At the same time we see how community interpretate their fellings to OFP by making addons, missions, mods, islands.
And thats the part, that makes my fellings for OFP go mad ... sometimes i just DL some addons just to look what each community member/members wish to see in the OFP, that makes OFP unbeaten and that will make us to remember OFP for looong loong time ... forgeting all the CS and BF crap ...

4. Please give me examples of games that can be compared to OFP&#33;

5. OFP is not a training program (like VBS) it was created to have fun. I see that you dont know a sh*t bout OFP communityand never played mp.
Just surf some forums of the clans and take a look ... those guys are very friendly fellas i had lots of good time with them online and on forums.

6. Yes ... lots of people have negative opinions about Russians (I am from east EU and btw speak Russian very well), but this does not mean that we hate em&#33; As Most of the word have negative opinions bout Germany ... History is a thing that cannot be changed.

7. We will see if Arma was made just to get pocketmoney ... we will see ... at the moment we cant predict that. Anyways, if arma is 1.5 OFP and if it is true, BIs will loose most of the OLD community, thats for sure&#33;

8. Even without knowing how Arma will look like i can tell for sure that your IQ is lower then most of the comentators here.

[Dwarden]

where is smilie "Don&#39;t feed trolls" or so ? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif ...

anyway just to drop some oil into fire http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/whistle.gif

i count myself as member of this "nonexisting" OFP&reg;/VBS1 community http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/inlove.gif

[Soul_Assassin]

Quote[/b] ]7. We will see if Arma was made just to get pocketmoney ... we will see ... at the moment we cant predict that. Anyways, if arma is 1.5 OFP and if it is true, BIs will loose most of the OLD community, thats for sure&#33;

just u wait&#33; ArmA is not only a new game or update it is a whole new playground fro modmakers. That is what it is all about to open up new boundaries with a new engine. Look at OFP today..anyone still in the community who doesnt download addons and still only plays 1.46 campaign? doooont think so just like for OFP to make the GAME community last for 4 years it doesnt just take BIS it takes the whole COMMUNITY...oh and trolls apparently. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif

[XeLSiS]

Well in the above statements about the release yes I believe I was the last to interview Placebo and with Elite being released ArmA will most likely NOT be released by Xmas because why the hell release OFP to XboX then 3 moths later release a whole new OFP to PC&#39;s lol...

[Chip]

Well in the above statements about the release yes I believe I was the last to interview Placebo and with Elite being released ArmA will most likely NOT be released by Xmas because why the hell release OFP to XboX then 3 moths later release a whole new OFP to PC&#39;s lol...
Think about it a little. People who have PCs (and don&#39;t have xbox) won&#39;t buy Elite because they will want to wait for ArmA. And people who have xbox probably have PC as well and perhaps they will consider buying ArmA also. And there will be more sales in general before xmas simply because people have a) more money and b) are in a jolly good mood http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/xmas_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif So I wouldn&#39;t worry about it, I think BIS studied the market thoroughly already.

[ziiip]

BIS simply haven&#39;t signed the contract paper with a publisher, I think.

[Espectro]

Also... this is free PR for Armed Assault :-)

[kavoven]

Quote[/b] ]7. We will see if Arma was made just to get pocketmoney ... we will see ... at the moment we cant predict that. Anyways, if arma is 1.5 OFP and if it is true, BIs will loose most of the OLD community, thats for sure&#33;

just u wait&#33; ArmA is not only a new game or update it is a whole new playground fro modmakers. That is what it is all about to open up new boundaries with a new engine. Look at OFP today..anyone still in the community who doesnt download addons and still only plays 1.46 campaign? doooont think so just like for OFP to make the GAME community last for 4 years it doesnt just take BIS it takes the whole COMMUNITY...oh and trolls apparently. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif
ArmA is no new game, it&#39;s just an update...
It&#39;s still based on the old engine, but with many improvements, but it&#39;s definatly not a new game, because there is no revolution&#33;

[Soul_Assassin]

Quote[/b] ]7. We will see if Arma was made just to get pocketmoney ... we will see ... at the moment we cant predict that. Anyways, if arma is 1.5 OFP and if it is true, BIs will loose most of the OLD community, thats for sure&#33;

just u wait&#33; ArmA is not only a new game or update it is a whole new playground fro modmakers. That is what it is all about to open up new boundaries with a new engine. Look at OFP today..anyone still in the community who doesnt download addons and still only plays 1.46 campaign? doooont think so just like for OFP to make the GAME community last for 4 years it doesnt just take BIS it takes the whole COMMUNITY...oh and trolls apparently. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif
ArmA is no new game, it&#39;s just an update...
It&#39;s still based on the old engine, but with many improvements, but it&#39;s definatly not a new game, because there is no revolution&#33;
it seems u missed my point. And besides with such limited information about ArmA I dont think u should be making such bold statements. From what I&#39;ve seen of the engine its more than JUST an update.

[D.murphy man]

actully i belive in one of the interveiws about ArmA one the BIS team stated that its turning out to be game 2 in its self rather then just an update.

[EiZei]

actully i belive in one of the interveiws about ArmA one the BIS team stated that its turning out to be game 2 in its self rather then just an update.
With a 4-year development cycle it better. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif

[Heatseeker]

actully i belive in one of the interveiws about ArmA one the BIS team stated that its turning out to be game 2 in its self rather then just an update.
With a 4-year development cycle it better. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif
They may have spent most of that time figuring out how to make OPF run well on a xbox and working on a next gen engine for game2 http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif .

[schmerzbringer]

Quote[/b] ]7. We will see if Arma was made just to get pocketmoney ... we will see ... at the moment we cant predict that. Anyways, if arma is 1.5 OFP and if it is true, BIs will loose most of the OLD community, thats for sure&#33;

just u wait&#33; ArmA is not only a new game or update it is a whole new playground fro modmakers. That is what it is all about to open up new boundaries with a new engine. Look at OFP today..anyone still in the community who doesnt download addons and still only plays 1.46 campaign? doooont think so just like for OFP to make the GAME community last for 4 years it doesnt just take BIS it takes the whole COMMUNITY...oh and trolls apparently. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif
ArmA is no new game, it&#39;s just an update...
It&#39;s still based on the old engine, but with many improvements, but it&#39;s definatly not a new game, because there is no revolution&#33;
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rofl.gif

Do you think a developer programms a single line 2 times, if the first version was ok? You have a funny opinion about software-engineering.

ARMA isn´t a "update", come on. Whom do you want to irritate?

PLS stop writing nonsense, it´s enough.

[XeLSiS]

@<hidden> all the above since my last post - http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rofl.gif

I&#39;ll just settle this as I know what ArmA will be about just from looking at screen&#39;s. ArmA will be an update to the engine but its gonna be a completely new games with really the only old things being used will be the Original 5 Islands with some updates of course and the Campaigns, besides that everything else will be new &/or improved.

What have we seen so far?

New Soldier Model
New Soldier Textures
New Grass Models
New Physics
Updated Effects
Updated Water
Updated Vegetation
v2 of the OFP Engine

And a few more things that I cant remember right now but the point is with just those alone I would buy ArmA and consider it to be a new game.

OFP/ArmA/BIS  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/notworthy.gif  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/thumbs-up.gif

[Raptor]

i haven&#39;t seen updated water or effects http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif from ArmedA yet.

Where i could see it?

[Jakerod]

Quote[/b] ]i haven&#39;t seen updated water or effects  from ArmedA yet.

New Smoke Effect (http://www.armedassault.com/shots/aa_shot3.jpg)
New Water Effect (http://www.arma.dk/images/photoalbum/35.jpg)
New Water Effect #2 (http://www.arma.dk/images/photoalbum/36.jpg)
New Dust Effect (http://www.arma.dk/images/photoalbum/52.jpg)
New Smoke Effect #2 (http://www.arma.dk/images/photoalbum/51.jpg)

[D.murphy man]

i haven&#39;t seen updated water or effects http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif from ArmedA yet.

Where i could see it?
Also its in OFP:E, so no doubt itll be in Armed Assualt.

[Raptor]

ok thanks http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

[XeLSiS]

Ty Jake for the pics to confirm some of what I said http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[NeMeSiS]

New Physics
Is this confirmed? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/huh.gif

[colossus]

<s>It has a new collision detection system, isn&#39;t that physics?</s>
You can clearly see that the tanks on OFP: Elite doesn&#39;t jump when they come over a hill, now thats physics. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[Metal Heart]

But tanks do jump. Anything that can go fast can jump, doesn&#39;t matter if it weighted 100kg or 100t as the gravity is equal to both.

[colossus]

I know that, but if you have seen OFP you know that a M1A1 can easly jump 2-3 meters without haveing much of a speed.

If you see the movie at flashpointelite.com, on the top-left of the screen, you can see that the tanks behave
different then in OFP. They look more heavy then in OFP.
And thats the kind of physic which is different from OFP on Elite, and I&#39;m totaly sure that physics in ArmA is different too.

[xnodunitx]

Ever seen an abrams going near top speed and run over a small hill or something? Oh yes trust me they "jump"

[FCOPZ-Illuminator]

I&#39;ve found "bad" news on this german website: http://www.pcgamesdatabase.de/gameinfo.php?game_id=1279

Take a look on right frame, new release date: 03.03.2006 http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif

Any informations ?

[xnodunitx]

Take a close look at those screenshots,those are the ones that are OFP2 not AA.

Most noticeable about this is the very early desert picture that was released awhile ago and the ever great looking one of the soldiers crouching.

http://www.gamershell.com/pc/operation_flashpoint_2/screenshots.html
http://ofp.gamezone.cz/index.php?showthis=8350
http://www.gamespot.com/pc....ex.html (http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/operationflashpoint2/screenindex.html)

[FCOPZ-Illuminator]

Yeah, but a release for Game 2 in march 06 is a little bit unrealistic too *g* And many (commerce) people don&#39;t know the difference between Game 2 and Armed Assault... *LoL*

[xnodunitx]

Heh,well they did say that AA is becomming OFP2,to an extent. But who knows,I guess we will find out in March 6.

But I think its another one of those people making up false release dates or something,but ya never know.

[Raptor]

I&#39;ve found "bad" news on this german website: http://www.pcgamesdatabase.de/gameinfo.php?game_id=1279

Take a look on right frame, new release date: 03.03.2006 http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif

Any informations ?
these article is very very old..... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[SpecOp9]

Well, I will be perfectly honest, I would not expect AA to be released this year, as most sites say it will.

I think the 3rd month of 2006 is pretty accurate

[Raptor]

I think the 3rd month of 2006 is pretty accurate
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/confused_o.gif , i hope not http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif , more on january. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

[xnodunitx]

If it were released next year would that mean maybe OFP2 would be a 2007 thing or perhaps a later in the year thing,not seeing much sense in that but what if their trying to fuse AA and OFP2 together sort of or upgrading it more and more *hears door slam* what was tha?- *gets dragged away by men in white coats*

[Jotte]

While the date isn&#39;t unlikley per se, given the state of things, this is just another rumor untill BIS or the publisher say something else then Q4 2005.
Since there is no other info and the one currently available seems more and more like a snowballs chance in hell, we are bound to see more speculation dates on these "release charts".
Those sites seem to relay on "my-brothers-best-friends-next-cousin-told-me" kind of "info" quite often. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/icon_rolleyes.gif

[Balschoiw]

Quote[/b] ]I&#39;ve found "bad" news on this german website
I just know that I sent news about AA and OFP2 to the magazine as they had no clue whatsoever about name, content and other things concerning AA and OFP2.
I don´t know if PcGames are in contact with BIS, but it doesn´t look like that.

[orange juice]

i still say BIS will let OFP: E sales flow a bit, that game will bring OFP back to peoples´ minds. just take a look at the first few reviews. Bis don´t want to sell ArmA to community people only, don´t you think?

they have all the time they want with a console title just released and i´m sure there will be SOME pc gamers drooling over OFP: E but can´t play it http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif . And BIS know that http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/nener.gif .

[xnodunitx]

Oh trust me,get a flow of some AA pics in sunny area&#39;s and stuff where the bump maps show and believe me they will get alot of people wanting it. Though to be honest when I compare OFP2 to bf2 somehow bf2&#39;s shaders and bump maps look...weak...but thats a whole different subject,anyway.

These day&#39;s I&#39;d guess about 60% of the gaming population now rests on graphics,notice how usually when you hear people talking about a game one of the first things they say "whats the grafix?" or "release the game the graphics look good&#33;" or something like that...I don&#39;t think like them so I can&#39;t really word it correctly.....though ofp2&#39;s stuff sure catches my eye but thats more of a virtual reality...in military thing,hmm,if VBS ports to that I might have to get it afterall...DAMNIT STOP GOING OFF TOPIC http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/banghead.gif okay its late and I&#39;v been up all night,audio....adio&#39;s. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/goodnight.gif

[PrivateNoob]

No revolution&#33;? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif

How about:

JIP (Join in Progress) for multiplayer
New scripting possibilities
redesigned collision detection system
DirectX9 support
Extreme weather effects(waves, wind etc)
Individual trees

Consider that so far Operation Flashpoint from 2001
is still unchallenged as a combat simulator game, I call all
this(which is the little we know for sure, more info
is probably coming soon) a dam major revolution&#33;
This is no simple OFP 1,5 we are facing
and if it is, then its a hell-uva upgrade. IF placebo says
that ArmedAssault looks more like game 2 then a simple
upgrade, you better listen&#33;

[EiZei]

No revolution&#33;?  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif

How about:

JIP (Join in Progress) for multiplayer
New scripting possibilities
redesigned collision detection system
DirectX9 support
Extreme weather effects(waves, wind etc)
Individual trees
I really don&#39;t see anything revolutionary there.

[Mr Reality]

I really don&#39;t see anything revolutionary there.
Maybe not, but it deffinatley makes a great game even better don&#39;t you think http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif .

[esti_the_big]

Thas just evolutionary....

revolutionary for ofp are dynamic campaigns, a new level of terrain interaction (dds) true large scale operations and a completely new physics engine.

[SpecOp9]

revolution will be in OFP2 http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[Heatseeker]

revolution will be in OFP2  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
Armed Assault will be a small but memorable revolution too, because OPFR is still a revolutionary game today, maybe ARMA will turn out into a improved, up to date revolution...
When will the revolution take place is the real question, i know im prepared http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif ...

[MattXR]

revolution will be in OFP2 http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
Armed Assault will be a small but memorable revolution too, because OPFR is still a revolutionary game today, maybe ARMA will turn out into a improved, up to date revolution...
When will the revolution take place is the real question, i know im prepared http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif ...
i am also prepared http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/pistols.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/welcome.gif

[benreeper]

EVOLUTIONARY&#33;

How many games of OFP&#39;s scale has JIP and full scripting. Name me one&#33;
--Ben

[Ozzzzzzy]

AA will be evolutionary

[Metal Heart]

Revolutionary, evolutionary, who cares, the main thing is that it&#39;s gonna be the greatest *king war game in the history of earth so far.

[harley 3 1185]

Well, ArmA might not be the greatest game ever (I&#39;m sure there&#39;ll be phalanxes of people who will find something to criticise it), but even if it&#39;s a slightly updated version of OFP, you&#39;ll be able to play it again, and again, and again, and again, and so on and so forth. There aren&#39;t too many games which you can do that for, and seeing as OFP is already unique in its genre, all Arma can do is improve on that position. I&#39;m prepared to wait for as long as it takes...

[Heatseeker]

Well, ArmA might not be the greatest game ever (I&#39;m sure there&#39;ll be phalanxes of people who will find something to criticise it), but even if it&#39;s a slightly updated version of OFP, you&#39;ll be able to play it again, and again, and again, and again, and so on and so forth.  There aren&#39;t too many games which you can do that for, and seeing as OFP is already unique in its genre, all Arma can do is improve on that position.  I&#39;m prepared to wait for as long as it takes...
Arma will be better than OPFR itself so how can it not be the greatest game ever? That really made no sense here, sry.. and im not prepared to wait has long has it takes neither, i will wait but i dont want to, it kind of feels we should be all playing ARMA already http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif . Arghh the pain&#33;&#33; http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif ?&#33;

[AG.]

Well, ArmA might not be the greatest game ever (I&#39;m sure there&#39;ll be phalanxes of people who will find something to criticise it), but even if it&#39;s a slightly updated version of OFP, you&#39;ll be able to play it again, and again, and again, and again, and so on and so forth. There aren&#39;t too many games which you can do that for, and seeing as OFP is already unique in its genre, all Arma can do is improve on that position. I&#39;m prepared to wait for as long as it takes...
Arma will be better than OPFR itself so how can it not be the greatest game ever? That really made no sense here, sry.. and im not prepared to wait has long has it takes neither, i will wait but i dont want to, it kind of feels we should be all playing ARMA already http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif . Arghh the pain&#33;&#33; http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif ?&#33;
My two cents ...

will explain how i imagine recoliutions and evolutions ...

Example ... revolution ... and hop ... we have got socialism ...
once again revolution .. and hop we have got democracy ...
revolution .. hop .. and we are back at dictatorship. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/yay.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/whistle.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/goodnight.gif
So ... revolution was HL1 ... wooow ... big science labs http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif with crazy stuff going around ... revolution .. OFP wooo ... real war sim ... do what you want, use what you want ... and arma, in my opinion, as upcoming game 2 is evolutionary product as HL2 ... idea is already been released to masses by BIstudio on 2001 March (OFP Demo) ... now we only tweak it a bit ...

[4 IN 1]

Well, ArmA might not be the greatest game ever (I&#39;m sure there&#39;ll be phalanxes of people who will find something to criticise it), but even if it&#39;s a slightly updated version of OFP, you&#39;ll be able to play it again, and again, and again, and again, and so on and so forth.  There aren&#39;t too many games which you can do that for, and seeing as OFP is already unique in its genre, all Arma can do is improve on that position.  I&#39;m prepared to wait for as long as it takes...
Arma will be better than OPFR itself so how can it not be the greatest game ever? That really made no sense here, sry.. and im not prepared to wait has long has it takes neither, i will wait but i dont want to, it kind of feels we should be all playing ARMA already http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif . Arghh the pain&#33;&#33; http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif ?&#33;
My two cents ...

will explain how i imagine recoliutions and evolutions ...

Example ... revolution ... and hop ... we have got socialism ...
once again revolution .. and hop we have got democracy ...
revolution .. hop .. and we are back at dictatorship.       http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/yay.gif  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/whistle.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/goodnight.gif
So ... revolution was HL1 ... wooow ... big science labs  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif with crazy stuff going around ... revolution .. OFP wooo ... real war sim ... do what you want, use what you want ... and arma, in my opinion, as upcoming game 2 is evolutionary product as HL2 ... idea is already been released to masses by BIstudio on 2001 March (OFP Demo)  ... now we only tweak it a bit ...
game 2 is a rpg with f/tps fighting in it, as this idea havent been seen from others b4 that makes game a revolutionary product, while ArmA is cross generation evolution of a already great game with upgrades/better supports/little new things added , the release of ArmA is a big fallow up on OPF engine based game

if you somehow dont understand the idea you better go looking inside your dusty dictionary

now back on topic if you dont want Placebo to close this post  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/icon_rolleyes.gif

[NetWalker]

So release date is on 2006 now? Why we don&#39;t have an official comment from BIS about the real release date for ArmA ? please tell us something...

[4 IN 1]

So release date is on 2006 now? Why we don&#39;t have an official comment from BIS about the real release date for ArmA ? please tell us something...
there is no sure of what is the release date from the begining, since BI only said that they hopefully it could be release at 2005 fall which makes the release date remain in the shadow, and dont forget that the publisher is still TBA(to be announce)

[JdB]

So release date is on 2006 now? Why we don&#39;t have an official comment from BIS about the real release date for ArmA ? please tell us something...
Quite simple. As soon as BIS knows what the release date will be, they will tell us as soon as they see the need to do so.

[gandalf the white]

So release date is on 2006 now? Why we don&#39;t have an official comment from BIS about the real release date for ArmA ? please tell us something...
Quite simple. As soon as BIS knows what the release date will be, they will tell us as soon as they see the need to do so.
would it be too much to ask about what they need to get done?

and I dont think they release allot of pics because the graphics keep changing. first the grass looked like OFP:e&#39;s, now it looks more like Game2&#39;s, odd shadows included http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif

[ziiip]

I dont think they release allot of pics because the graphics keep changing. first the grass looked like OFP:e&#39;s, now it looks more like Game2&#39;s, odd shadows included http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif
I think OFP:E&#39;s grass looks pretty nice. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[luemmel]

I dont think they release allot of pics because the graphics keep changing. first the grass looked like OFP:e&#39;s, now it looks more like Game2&#39;s, odd shadows included  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif
I think OFP:E&#39;s grass looks pretty nice.   http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
yes, i am playing ofp since 4 years, currently with ecp mod (only sounds). further more, i have a 3,2 ghz p4 pc with gf gt6600, 1 gb ram and a 19" flat screen.

i have graphic setting at maximum (frame rate, resolution etc) and i use 8x anti-aliasing.

i have to say, that ofp looks with these settings like an actual game. its foto-realism, partly. in addition i use a 5.1 surround sound system and a beamer wich supports 1280*1024 resolution. for me it is, if i am an actor in a war movie :-) i hope that i will get in the next days, the uk version of ofp elite to have a first look on the new features (waves, wind, grass for instance) which we can expect from armed assault.

but from my point of view, the ecp sound mod gave the most benefit to ofp and i hope that

a) arma / ofp:e will have it
b) ecp mod will work with arma

btw, i am still wondering why there is no competitor to ofp since 4 years... (due to the fact that ofp is a million selling game)

see you....

[crave22]

We may not even need ECP with ArmA.  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/whistle.gif If a bunch of guys who didn&#39;t do it for cash and who live really far away from each other can accomplish as much as they did, just think what a programming team who works right next to each other can do now that they know it&#39;s possible. One of the finest programming teams, might I add. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/thumbs-up.gif

[SpecOp9]

Could be an ECP II

[[UKF] John R.]

I believe that we will get more informations after the 8th november&#33;

[snoops_213]

Not to fussed on the release date that much anymore, I would like to hear who the publisher is first. Surely there is a short list by now. Like everyone else though Im just keen to get some info http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif Information is power they say and BIS have it all atm http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rofl.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/notworthy.gif Please wisen us up a little someday soon http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/whistle.gif

[Sanyix]

John R. @<hidden> Oct. 31 2005,10:33)]I believe that we will get more informations after the 8th november&#33;
Why? What will happen on 8th november?

[orange juice]

it´s my birthday&#33; http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/yay.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/confused_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/goodnight.gif

[[UKF] John R.]

Quote[/b] ]Release date is confirmed as October 28th for Europe and November 8th for North America & Australia.

[the_shadow]

John R. @<hidden> Oct. 31 2005,15:33)]
Quote[/b] ]Release date is confirmed as October 28th for Europe and November 8th for North America & Australia.
and that was wrong, wasnt it, ArmA wasnt released on October 28th in Europe http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[Kode]

I think he meant OFP:Elite (the xbox version) coming out at those dates, and so they can concentrate on ArMa

[Kode]

I just noticed OFP:E was brought by Atari says this link:

http://www.xboxworld.com.au/xbox_games/review_xbox.php?idReview=624

Was this known before? or is that site wrong. Still, would atari posibly publish armed assault?

[Espectro]

Atari is the publisher in australia... as they were with ofp..

Elite was actually allready released on the 26th in UK... Some shops just sold it prior the release (another sign on the great structure that Codies brings for the day) http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif

[Dowie100]

this delay of info makes me want to buy OF:E, but ive only got Ł3 lol&#33;

[[UKF] John R.]

I think he meant OFP:Elite (the xbox version) coming out at those dates, and so they can concentrate on ArMa
Thats what I meant... i&#39;ve just forgotten to write OFP:Elite in my post http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/whistle.gif

[Commando84]

i wonder if atari maybe publish armed A? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif c&#39;mon they published act of war , wich is a modern , futuristic war rts game but i think it would be logical if they published ofp http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
i remember act of war had some decent press in game magazines here in sweden and maybe if armed assault would be published who knows, BIS might get a piece of the gold cookie too http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
im guessing the game will be out just in time when you either have just spent all your money or when you will have to wait a week or two until "payday" 25th up here http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif so somewhere between 25 of novembre and 25th of december http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif i dunno im just thinking to much but as the old saying goes , something good comes to those that wait or something like that http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[AUS_Twisted]

They have just over 1 month for Armed Assault to go gold if it will be released this year, it&#39;s getting really close till we find out some info I&#39;m sure.

[D.murphy man]

Yea i bet theyll have to give info before the new year on the next expected release date...right guys....right?&#33; http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif

[SpecOp9]

If I had to choose a publisher I&#39;d pick Ubisoft

[Kode]

I would have no clue what publisher to take. But most probably it will be Atari for the benelux, as they also published OFP:E in it.


Quote[/b] ]Placebo
Über Verwalter
Group: OF Forum Team
Posts: 11514
Joined: July 2001
Posted: Oct. 31 2005,16:06
I&#39;ve had it confirmed a second time that Atari (distributor in Benelux) distributed the game last week.


would be rather strange when they would take a different publisher after they found one for the xbox game, mostly they stick to it http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[Heatseeker]

If I had to choose a publisher I&#39;d pick Ubisoft
Ubisoft have turned GR and R6 franchise into console arcadish exclusives, with the next generation consoles coming out you can bet they wouldnt be very interested in publishing BIS games for PC, not interested in seeing dumbed down ports either, not even to mention starforce http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif .

http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/pistols.gif >>> Ubisoft&#33;

[Scrub]

Wellllll, they also have some truly rockin&#39; sims (pacific fighters, silent hunter III. blah blah blah ok, that&#39;s the end of my list...). And does the publisher MAKE the games?? Oh no they do not http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif (though they would like to have you THINK that with the size of their logo on the box  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/banghead.gif )  Just hope that BIS&#39;s resolve will stay the course against the tide of publisher phone calls saying "Just get it out.  C&#39;mon, we&#39;ll make some money... Then you make a little expansion to fix some of the things you originally wanted to put in, and make some more money" - ad nauseum.

BI has a great track record, I&#39;m not worried. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/whistle.gif

[Cozza]

No but the publishers come in and tell the devolpers what should be in it for what will give the most sales. (Mostly CS kiddies who thinks realism is running around with 2 M60&#39;s firing off 1000 bullets before throwing them away and pulling a rocket luacher out of no where and blowing up another person and getting anther m60) http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif God I hate EA

[Heatseeker]

No but the publishers come in and tell the devolpers what should be in it for what will give the most sales. (Mostly CS kiddies who thinks realism is running around with 2 M60&#39;s firing off 1000 bullets before throwing them away and pulling a rocket luacher out of no where and blowing up another person and getting anther m60)  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif  God I hate EA
That atitude is growing old, diferent people prefer diferent games, some do like both arcade and realistic games, EA seems to focus on publishing mainstream products targeted at a wider audience, we dont have to buy their jun.. products if we dont want to http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif .
Im sure BIS will make a contract with a publisher to release their software but they will still remain a independant company, its not like their selling their souls http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif .

[EiZei]

If I had to choose a publisher I&#39;d pick Ubisoft
Ubisoft have turned GR and R6 franchise into console arcadish exclusives, with the next generation consoles coming out you can bet they wouldnt be very interested in publishing BIS games for PC, not interested in seeing dumbed down ports either, not even to mention starforce http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif .

 http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/pistols.gif >>> Ubisoft&#33;
I think the new direction of the R6 and GR was totally chosen by red storm themselves. Codemasters is quite fond of starforce too, they were one of the first companies to adopt it.

[Dynamax]

well well, its now November and we have yet to hear anything about a possible release date. i wouldnt be too happy if BIS waited ti&#39;ll the last minute of this last quarter to announce that AA will be delayed.
i hope they give us something in the next few weeks if not earlier. it wouldnt look good on them if the last quarter passes with out any information on a possible change of release date.
it&#39;s better to be informed over the reasons as to why AA is delayed, then to have the stated release date pass only to leave the community in the dark. at lease give us something to help us understand what is going on, and help to quench this fire that has been brunning for a while now.

[DBR_ONIX]

If I had to choose a publisher I&#39;d pick Ubisoft
Ubisoft have turned GR and R6 franchise into console arcadish exclusives, with the next generation consoles coming out you can bet they wouldnt be very interested in publishing BIS games for PC, not interested in seeing dumbed down ports either, not even to mention starforce http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif .

http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/pistols.gif >>> Ubisoft&#33;
I think the new direction of the R6 and GR was totally chosen by red storm themselves. Codemasters is quite fond of starforce too, they were one of the first companies to adopt it.
Exactly.. You really think Ubisoft forced the developers to change the game from realistic to arcade, without the developers wanting to? Sure, they might have suggested "An arcade game might sell better", but I honestly doubt they would/could change the game without the developer wanting to..

Anyway, as for a release Q4 this year, I kinda doubt it will happen.. Maybe Q1 next year, which would be a shame, as it&#39;d lose all the christmas sales, and after c&#39;mas, after people who play games have got all the games as presents, probobaly aren&#39;t going to go out and by more games.. Which would then cut the sales down to only people who like OFP largely..

But a surprise release in a month or so would be good *hint hint* http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif
- Ben

[Heatseeker]

I think the new direction of the R6 and GR was totally chosen by red storm themselves. Codemasters is quite fond of starforce too, they were one of the first companies to adopt it.
Exactly.. You really think Ubisoft forced the developers to change the game from realistic to arcade, without the developers wanting to? Sure, they might have suggested "An arcade game might sell better", but I honestly doubt they would/could change the game without the developer wanting to..
Guys http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif , its not relevant to the topic at hand but everybody knows RSE started developing kid shooters when UBI took over, like.. their no longer a independant company like BIS http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/confused_o.gif .

Has for Aras release i feel we are still far from seeing it coming http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif , looking back i would have expected to be playing something new from BIS by now but 2k5 will end with no Aras and no OPF2...

[Kode]

I would say, no news is good news.

Maybe BIS will announce in 2 weeks that it is finished with videos , a new site, and everything else. I honestly see no reason why everybody sees it delayed. Some games came out of nowhere, without any news just 1/2 week before releasing the game.

[benreeper]

You know I don&#39;t really post on subjects like these but I&#39;ll ponder this.

Getting a good game publisher must be as hard as getting a record deal. I personnally know several people that are incredible singers and are also pleasing to the eye. They have sung everywhere but have yet to get a break. Contrast this with the hundreds of albums in the stores recorded by people with no real talent.

Back to my point.
Look at the promotion of other games of this ilk, most notably "Call of Duty". There is an hour long special about it on the Military Channel, here in the states. Now "Call of Duty" is a good game but it has NO WHERE the lasting appeal that OFP has. However, this TV special makes it seem that their developers have invented everything to do with military first person shooters. Imagine if our game had half this much promotion but sadly, I see the new games being overlooked as well. Money and accollades go not to the best but to the loudest.
--Ben

[Dwarden]

EA ... dark empire between publishers, dumbed any game they got control over
UBI ... they canceled too many good projects and dumbed out many others but yet they got some good titles but i think it&#39;s just pure luck http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

VU Games ... evil twin of UBI ... in paleblue..

CM ... no idea but theirs PR about OFP/OFPR was not enough but still they helped OFP be published at all ...

Atari ... ehm, i know they publish OFP in Australia but they done lot of "wrong steps in last 2 years" and they lost UT2007 to Midway ...

Strategy First ... omg, nearly bancrupted by wrong decisions but who knows maybe after restructure they better

Sony ... hmm no chance they will for sure demand OFP2 to be just PS3 exclusive as reward ...

Microsoft ... well , that will be interesting publisher http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif ads everywhere and what about OFP2 as bonus to each Vista Home (entertainment edition) install ? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif))

Lucas ... hardly that care about SW and so http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

SCI ... hmm they got some neat titles and working distrib

Midway ... well Epic moved from Atari to Midway ... that tells something ...

find publisher must be really hard work http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif more i think about bigger freezing in my neck http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

[SGT. Hurley]

This is getting to nerv racking - someone please release some information.

[Dynamax]

at this point i would be happy if they would just tell us if its going to be delayed.
a late release isnt new.
but keeping us dangleing from a thin string by our teeth, not knowing what is going on is not cool at all.

[ziiip]

How &#39;bout Activison or Sierra? Both gotta be rolling in money &#39;cause of F.E.A.R. and Quake 4, and both have published quality games.

[harley 3 1185]

How about GOD Games? They&#39;ve published two of my favourite games of all time, Mafia and H&D2, and lots of other good games.

[Blake]

My share of adding fuel to the rumor machine is that I believe BIS is under contract with Codemasters that it will not reveal the publisher of AA even if it has one. All this because Codemasters surely does not wan&#39;t BIS and it&#39;s new partner stealing consumer attention from OFP:Elite. Also, advertising essentially the same game with different titles on different platforms while OFP2 is being devoleped at the same would be a bit confusing too.
November 8th is the big day since it&#39;s the OFP:E US release day and if we won&#39;t hear about AA after couple of weeks after that, then I&#39;m certain AA has moved to Q1 2006 at least.

[kavoven]

I&#39;m still for a STEAM-like solution.

Would be the best publisher...:)
all the money would go to BIS and the game would cost less http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

[EiZei]

How about GOD Games?  They&#39;ve published two of my favourite games of all time, Mafia and H&D2, and lots of other good games.
GOD is a brand owned by Take2. Just like rockstar and 2k games.

[Sanyix]

I&#39;m still for a STEAM-like solution.

Would be the best publisher...:)
all the money would go to BIS and the game would cost less http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
And we all going mad/or have too high STEAM pressure http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif, because this shitty, buggy thing like steam http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif

[orange juice]

Look at the promotion of other games of this ilk, most notably "Call of Duty". There is an hour long special about it on the Military Channel, here in the states.
OT:
I am somehow not surprised that there is a military TV-channel in the states. it´s sick anyway, isn´t it? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/huh.gif

it seems now that more and more Flashpoint addicts are getting really nervous with no information given on anything, therefor i demand:

SOMEBODY - MUST - DO - SOMETHING&#33;

[ryankaplan]

B.I.S. you sllllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggsssssssssssssssssss
sssssssssssss (add cockney accent)

What happened to the "New website and info will be released very shortly"? That was 2 months ago (not that long, but still quite long).

[kavoven]

I&#39;m still for a STEAM-like solution.

Would be the best publisher...:)
all the money would go to BIS and the game would cost less http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
And we all going mad/or have too high STEAM pressure http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif, because this shitty, buggy thing like steam http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif
This shows me, that you have actually no real idea about steam.

It&#39;s now running really smooth since one year, although I never had probs with it at all.

A few days ago, the Lost Coast lvl, based on the new HL 2 engine was released and it was about 300 MB, so a big pack to download. I loaded it just after the release, as many thousand others did all around the world. The download took about 10 minuts, than I could play the lvl and everything worked fine.

You should try nowerdays steam and then judge about the system&#33;

[Dynamax]

i also think steam would be a nice thing to have for ArmAss since it d/l the latest patches and can even work to d/l new addons.

[EiZei]

I really really like the idea of steam-style content distribution (cheap prices.. multiple installs.. no destroyable media) but the implementation seems little shaky so far.. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/confused_o.gif

[Heatseeker]

I really really like the idea of steam-style content distribution (cheap prices.. multiple installs.. no destroyable media) but the implementation seems little shaky so far.. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/confused_o.gif
For Arma http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/confused_o.gif , i mean i dont have HL2 but unfortunetly i dont think Arma will be a several multi million best seller out there capable of supporting and maintaining this system, plus setting up and maintaining this service must be veery costy and work is being done on the true OPF sequel. I really dont see any advantages and doubt BIS will release many content for Arma after release, would a steam system be really worth it? I doubt it...


Quote[/b] ]November 8th is the big day since it&#39;s the OFP:E US release day and if we won&#39;t hear about AA after couple of weeks after that, then I&#39;m certain AA has moved to Q1 2006 at least.


Im with Blake on this, OPF:E must come out worldwide and reach its sales peak before they start hyping a new product, comon sense imo.
News by the end of November?

http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif .

[schmerzbringer]

*spam*

Lets make a publisher and releasedate bet- survey.

I&#39;ll bet: 500,-* for this Year & 10TACLE


*CZK http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

[akhen]

I trust BIS, and I&#39;m sure they will make the right decision. Just hoping it&#39;s going to be soon&#33; http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

[Cozza]

B.I.S. you sllllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggsssssssssssssssssss

sssssssssssss (add cockney accent)

What happened to the "New website and info will be released very shortly"? That was 2 months ago (not that long, but still quite long).
really. All your going to get saying something like that is that you need to grow up.

Let BIS do what they want

[ziiip]

Hell, I remember how happy the OFP community was when they released that 4 pics at the beginning of september and now we dont get nothing. I really hope they&#39;ll release some info on november 8th. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/huh.gif

[colossus]

The info is comming when BIS is ready for it, hopefully after the US release of Elite.

Until that... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/colossus/Forum/f8ffb863.gif

[Jezz]

Quote[/b] ]More screenshots and news will be available soon together with the new version of our official Armed Assault website.

real soon guys http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/confused_o.gif this is getting as bad as oleg maddox&#39;s famous "two weeks be sure" http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif

[Bordoy]

How &#39;bout Activison or Sierra? Both gotta be rolling in money &#39;cause of F.E.A.R. and Quake 4, and both have published quality games.
Activision did alright with R:TW but lost publishing rights to SEGA.

[IceBreakr]

It would be a miracle if we get ArmA this year... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

[Dwarden]

How &#39;bout Activison or Sierra? Both gotta be rolling in money &#39;cause of F.E.A.R. and Quake 4, and both have published quality games.
Sierra = VU Games ... and if i look at mistakes done with FEAR ... nvm ...

[Aussie]

We wont see Arm As till early next year. Theres no way they can get a publisher and package,then release the game within 2 months, which to me dont make any sense at all. Xmas is the peak &#036;&#036;&#036;&#036; time It is a little disapointing to not have any more info considering we are still here playing after all these years. Perhaps even as late as March next year. This is one time I hope I am wrong though