Wildlife and civillians

[SgtH3nry3]

In-game Wildlife as in form of seagulls, eagles, hawks, wolfs, deers, hares, wildrabbits, cats, etc is something that attracted me since I played FarCry, Deer Hunter, etc.

I don't know why but the ambience is like very realistic when you have wildlife ingame.
It gives you the idea like you are the soldier in this world, not a gamer which you can feel when you play Wolfenstein, Quake, Doom 3 etc.

If the upcoming ArAs would be more a simulator then why not add some sort of wildlife.
Preferrably with the models used in the VBS1 add-on of course.

And civillians are feature I can't miss in ArAs too.
And I the reason of more civillians come by the concept to see more variety between children, adolescenses, aged people, african-, indian people, etc.

Of course there needs to be some sort of AI changing but hey, if this would be implanted you can't say BIS didn't change the AI!

Anyways these are thing I hope to see in ArAs.
Of course together with JIP, SpeedTree RT, VoIP, NovodeX, Dynamic Destruction, Dynamic Interactive Cockpits, etc.

[D.murphy man]

Yes animals is a must, also the ability to take cover behind dead cows ect.. (saving private ryan style)


Quote[/b] ]And civillians are feature I can't miss in ArAs too.
And I the reason of more civillians come by the concept to see more variety between children, adolescenses, aged people, african-, indian people, etc.

I would also like to see this, also dont forget Fat and Skinny, built and small framed variation in civillians as well as soldiers. If it isint too much to ask. Also correct me if im wrong but wouldnt the game get banned if it is possible to kill children? I remember hearing some where that children wernt included in games where killing occures because in many countrys its against the law or somthing.

[Ti0n3r]

I've spooted a bird in one of the the OFPxbox trailers.
So it's pretty safe to say there will be birds in ArAs as well.
(I hope). http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

[SgtH3nry3]

Yes animals is a must, also the ability to take cover behind dead cows ect.. (saving private ryan style)


Quote[/b] ]And civillians are feature I can't miss in ArAs too.
And I the reason of more civillians come by the concept to see more variety between children, adolescenses, aged people, african-, indian people, etc.

I would also like to see this, also dont forget Fat and Skinny, built and small framed variation in civillians as well as soldiers. If it isint too much to ask. Also correct me if im wrong but wouldnt the game get banned if it is possible to kill children? I remember hearing some where that children wernt included in games where killing occures because in many countrys its against the law or somthing.
And what if you can't kill civillians? Or what if you can't kill children?

@<hidden>:
If you are killed then you transform in a bird as some sort of respawn to spectator stuff.
Its also in some mp-mission in CWC-1985.

And since Battlefield 2 will have birds, and because BF2 is some sort of concurrent I think ArAs must have wildlife.

Wildlife with independent packs/groups/rudels of animals which hunt on others.
Of course there should be radio signals like:
<span style='color:blue'>3:",WOLF, 10 o&#39;clock, 100"</span>
And every animal should have a variable setting like hungry or thirsty.
So they will look for water or other animals.
Playing animals would be nice too.

But I know that AI for such things are hard to make but if this feature would be in ArAs it would break a new age of simulation.
Other than that I want the AI not to be able to see through smoke or fog.

Of course wildlife should be on the Civillian side, but think about guard dogs of the West and East side.
Of course in variety: Bouviers, German shephards, etc..

[Ti0n3r]

@<hidden>:
If you are killed then you transform in a bird as some sort of respawn to spectator stuff.
Its also in some mp-mission in CWC-1985.
I have known that for almost 4 years. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
Also, that bird spectator thing is in every mp-mission. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[G-Capo]

I agree that there should be civilians and wild life,Wild life as in bears and deer and such not just birds.Bf2 will have birds and it&#39;s not even a mil sim.Civilians you can have men,women,and children.Also during multyplayer people can play as a civilian as well especially during clan matches were we have Special Operations which train civilians and stuff,Always did it with a huge OFP clan callen Intel Combat Marines.All this stuff is a must for a military simulator.

[funnyguy1]

Wildlife with independent packs/groups/rudels of animals which hunt on others.
Of course there should be radio signals like:
<span style='color:blue'>3:",WOLF, 10 o&#39;clock, 100"</span>
hmm, interesting idea, but I don`t think they would bother with this, there is a lot of other things which are a must.

Also I don`t think this wolf would be seen at all in real life, he would escape quickly just after spotting the soldiers.

[eestikas88]

or not-wolves are.....ummm....(must learn more english)...well they&#39;ll kill you if you go near them in real life.

[EddyBoy]

Do also remember that it would be rare to see one. Most of the animals listed would flee from your footsteps but fire a bullet and they&#39;re long gone. As nice as birds are it is pointless putting in Deer, Rabbit or other game as they wouldn&#39;t be within 100m of any battlefield.

[G-Capo]

But I would still like to see every know and then a bird and or deer while I&#39;am playing multiplayer or single player,It just gives it a little touch.

Also civilians for online play are a must&#33;,Even if they just run around and stuff,Like if they hear and explosion they start running,Like in the GTA series civilians like that would be sweet&#33;

[Bordoy]

Video of Kangaroo in VBS1

http://virtualbattlespace.com/downloads.htm

The sheep one doesn&#39;t work for me, and im downloading the kangaroo one now. Hopefully they can ad the sheep into Armed Assault.

Screen Shots of Animals

http://virtualbattlespace.com/screenshots.htm

Screenshots of a ram, camel, fox and a rabbit.

Lets hope they just copy the .pbo&#39;s from VBS1 folder to ArmAss folder.

[baff]

Flocks of small birds startling from trees is pretty high on my list. Perhaps they only startle if someone nearby is in a standing position, or running....or firing a gun...


It would be intresting if a kangaroo, cow or a deer totalled your vehicle on a blind bend.
(and then if you could trade in the wreck for a couple of camels perhaps).



Or if you could herd the sheep into your bedroom.


Maybe someone will mod a sheepdog.

[Warin]

The original Lucasarts flight sims (Their Finest Hour, Battlehawks 1942) had amazing manuals, and I wish more modern games lavished as much attention on the documentation.

What would be cool is if BIS invested in a "Field Manual" for AA, and made it an optional purchase. That way, there could be an advanced manual full of info and stuff available without adding too much to the game price.

[Bordoy]

The original Lucasarts flight sims (Their Finest Hour, Battlehawks 1942) had amazing manuals, and I wish more modern games lavished as much attention on the documentation.

What would be cool is if BIS invested in a "Field Manual" for AA, and made it an optional purchase.  That way, there could be an advanced manual full of info and stuff available without adding too much to the game price.
Yer that would be a good idea.

except it&#39;s the wrong thread http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[Antichrist]

In real life forests and islands in OFP are too small to have any of the larger animals (bears, wolves, deer etc). Hares and rabbits - yes. Some dogs - yes. Heaps of birds - definitely. As for larger animals not until ArAs 2 I&#39;d say.

[Suma]

In real life forests and islands in OFP are too small to have any of the larger animals (bears, wolves, deer etc).
Who knows? Maybe some small roe deer will find enough space and feeding to make their living there? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

Not that I really know, just guessing http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif .

[Berghoff]

Birds are nice but It can be quite sad If you accidently shoot one with a HEAT rounds from a tank http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif .

(=) But anyway if it will be possible I want to make some birds like the one in my backyard, a squirrel, erinaceus europaeus, bunny and a frog. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif woohoo.

[ryankaplan]

i&#39;m sure they can at least add the ones from vbs1, if they can really not be bothered, they can at least do that. I don&#39;t care about larger animals, and personally think wolves are a bit extreme, any island inhabited by humans which is smaller than 200kmsquare would have it&#39;s wolf population wiped out in weeks...smaller animals and the likes off sheeps, dogs, cats and birds are a must thought

[Espectro]

In real life forests and islands in OFP are too small to have any of the larger animals (bears, wolves, deer etc).
Who knows? Maybe some small roe deer will find enough space and feeding to make their living there? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

Not that I really know, just guessing  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif .
hehe

Anyway... I think bunnys would be cool...

Imagine laying down scanning the horizon... suddenly, u see 2 bunnys making a run away from some bush 200 metres away... i wonder would could be hiding there?

[Balschoiw]

They are already there in OFP 1 http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

My quick thoughts on animals visualized:
http://www.ciahome.net/images/cookbook/Hirsch1.jpg

http://www.ciahome.net/images/cookbook/rogerrabbit.jpg

http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wow_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif

[Daddl]

This (http://www.ciahome.net/images/cookbook/rogerrabbit.jpg) just made my day&#33; http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
Thanks, Bals&#33;

Oh, and the forests & islands are actually more than big enough to support at least roe deers, wild boars and other medium sized animals.

[Heatseeker]

They are really needed, seeing the ocasional animal would really add to the experience, some rabbits, sheep and some birds would be so nice http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif .

[Spy17]

I think Suma made a quiet promising comment&#33;
I think it is save to say they made it in. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/xmas_o.gif

[Heatseeker]

Yeah, i think BIS will put some animals though i can already see people posting:
"What?? No Rhino&#39;s? No T-Rex? No sharks?.."
The usual stuff...

[7,62]

maybe some carnivores? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif i personaly think its not so important. but with animals will be a bit closer to reality.

[funnyguy1]

snakes would be great...
They`re small, and quite (imho) easy to implement, easier than bears http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

Anyway, always something moveing in the grass... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/xmas_o.gif

latet anguis in herba http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[PainDealer]

In-game Wildlife as in form of seagulls, eagles, hawks, wolfs, deers, hares, wildrabbits, cats, etc is something that attracted me since I played FarCry, Deer Hunter, etc
isn&#39;t FarCry like "Rambo Vs. Wildlife with bazookas" or something? I saw something like that in a trailer and that helped me to make up my mind and save valuable 49.95€ http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

anyway lions and bears with random desires would be kick ass stuff. and some crows to eat up the bodies http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

[Suma]

Quote[/b] ]No sharks

Who said no sharks? There is plenty of them in OFP http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif, and they are very fierce and scary. Did you ever tried swimming in the OFP ocean? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif

[Cozza]

Quote[/b] ]No sharks

Who said no sharks? There is plenty of them in OFP http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif, and they are very fierce and scary. Did you ever tried swimming in the OFP ocean?  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif
did you http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif

[Heatseeker]

Im sure that if we were able see underwater them sharks could be easily avoided, think about how many virtual lives BIS would save if they also implemented this http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif .
How about giving the seagull some a.i. too, would go well with the pretty new water http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif .

[kavoven]

Quote[/b] ]No sharks

Who said no sharks? There is plenty of them in OFP http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif, and they are very fierce and scary. Did you ever tried swimming in the OFP ocean? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif
Well, thank you than Placebo, now I know the reason why I always had troubles swimming from Malden to Everon.... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif

[Placebo]

Heeey don&#39;t blame me http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[PainDealer]

How about giving the seagull some a.i. too, would go well with the pretty new water http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif .
heeeere fishy fishy fishyyy http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif *splash*

[Antichrist]

2 SUMA

I will still debate plausibility of roe deer on OFP islands, but I will most likely get killed by other forum members.... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif Looking forward to seeing it in the game&#33; http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

[ExtracTioN]

Sharks and crocodiles would be great http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[Antichrist]

Sharks and crocodiles would be great http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
And dinosaurs&#33; We definitely need dinosaurs.... robot ones.... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif

[Espectro]

We need king kong&#33;&#33;&#33;


// Edit

We REALLY need c0ws though... VERY important... Whats a battlefield without c0ws? That would just be science fiction http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

[Heatseeker]

We need king kong&#33;&#33;&#33;


// Edit

We REALLY need c0ws though... VERY important... Whats a battlefield without c0ws? That would just be science fiction http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
Meh, ordinary, comon and not very original plus we do have Mig&#39;s cows and mules.
Sheep, rabitt, birds (eagles and seagulls), and snake, it was a great idea they had for vbs, snakes would be too cool i think. From BIS i always expect something out of the ordinary but rational, maybe a turtlle http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif .

[funnyguy1]

We need king kong&#33;&#33;&#33;


// Edit

We REALLY need c0ws though... VERY important... Whats a battlefield without c0ws? That would just be science fiction http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
Ordinary, yes, but imho quite "rational" as Heatseeker posted...

Simple ordinary animals (pets, pack animals) would be great.

Also I want be able to blow`em up with charges http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
Do you see those cows flying?

new smiles http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/nener.gif lol

[ryankaplan]

using dead camels&#39; humps as cover....hmmm....attractive idea

[Balschoiw]

Quote[/b] ]using dead camels&#39; humps as cover....hmmm....attractive idea
Attractive ? After 3 days in the sun they fill with gases and stink like a pangalactic fart. Well if someone shoots them and you are behind them... not a nice view. *slime*
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif

[Shadow]

Now I want Roger Rabbit in OFP http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rofl.gif
Do you have a 1280x1024 version of that picture, Bals?
It makes for the perfect wallpaper http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

[Berghoff]

Quote[/b] ]using dead camels&#39; humps as cover....hmmm....attractive idea
Attractive ? After 3 days in the sun they fill with gases and stink like a pangalactic fart. Well if someone shoots them and you are behind them... not a nice view. *slime*
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif
hehe http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rofl.gif


:/ Especially when a grenade explodes on a dead camel. Uhm well anyway, indeed rabibts are nice maybe also a rat near farmhouses.

http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

[Balschoiw]

Quote[/b] ]Do you have a 1280x1024 version of that picture, Bals?
Yes, I already have it as my own Desktop. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
I will upload and post the link, where ?

Edit: Will attach link at picture here and in combat photography thread in appropriate post. Pooltime now :-) *splish, splash, Bals is taking a bath...*

[Johan_D]

Horses, cows, sheeps and dogs.. not much more do we need.

On the civilians: they should have another kind of Safe setting. A Wander setting. Where they walk around, do farm work, drive a bike and so on. Maybe add a few shops, give them a shop marker and the civilians automaticaly go inside and walk back to their houses.
Have a civilian do some fishing on its own for example.

And do not let them lie on the ground when they see soldiers, but run away or hide.. must be easy to program I hope.

Same for soldiers, an extra safe mode would be nice.. Put two soldiers in SafeX mode, and put a ball opbject between them, and they do some handball or something.

[gandalf the white]

Even Farcry couln&#39;t come close to this level of unscripted action, and if you saw what you had to do in the editor to achieve that "unscripted" behaviour... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif

[Balschoiw]

Wallpaper download for Roger the animal :

http://img92.echo.cx/img92/2672/roger1ay.th.jpg (http://img92.echo.cx/my.php?image=roger1ay.jpg)

[kavoven]

Heeey don&#39;t blame me :;):
Upsss... didn&#39;t reconize it wasn&#39;t you, who posted there...

*blaming suma for the sharks*
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge2.gif

EDIT

I made it&#33;
http://home.arcor.de/kavoven/ofp/shark_s.jpg (http://home.arcor.de/kavoven/ofp/shark.jpg)

First shark discovered in the sea between Malden and Everon, unfortunatly the guy who took the photo had some troubles comming back *g*

[colossus]

I hope the sharks has freaking laser beams on the heads otherwise I won&#39;t swim http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/huh.gif

EDIT:

Quote[/b] ]
IMG]http://home.arcor.de/kavoven/ofp/shark_s.jpg[/IMG]
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rofl.gif