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Brentk
Jan 16 2002, 19:08
Have you guys heard about the video card with 1 gigabyte of ram?http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif?? I'd paste the link but i cant find it!!!!!!!

Ex-RoNiN
Jan 16 2002, 19:15
because its a load of bollox and 5 yrs or more away

ffs, even the geforce 4 wont have more than 128 megs.

Brentk
Jan 16 2002, 19:25
Well it was a smaller name company with a set release for a year(i think......). If i find the link ill put it up in here http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Mister Frag
Jan 16 2002, 21:51
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ex-RoNiN @<hidden> Jan. 17 2002,04:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">because its a load of bollox and 5 yrs or more away

ffs, even the geforce 4 wont have more than 128 megs.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
You are thinking in terms of consumer-level boards, not professional-use and workstations. Silicon Graphics SGI 540 Cobalt workstations have up to 1.9GB of video memory.

Brentk
Jan 16 2002, 21:56
hmmmmmm not sure, but maybe

Wobble
Jan 16 2002, 22:39
I think it will be a long time before we see a board with a gig of memory.. because insted we will see cards with VERY VERY VERY fast memory like the QDR stuff being developed.(quadrupal data rate) that runs at 2ns..

in actuallity todays cards that use DDR have are the same as a card with twice as much SDR ram.. like the GF2 ultra DDRRAM.. its like it had 128mb of SDRRAM.

then again..

ya never know http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Jan 16 2002, 22:56
Mr. Frag - isn&#39;t that shared memory, though?

Mister Frag
Jan 16 2002, 23:02
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (OBiJuan @<hidden> Jan. 17 2002,07:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Mr. Frag - isn&#39;t that shared memory, though?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Yes, the use of shared frame buffers are a common architecture for UNIX workstations.

Still, this is memory set aside for display lists, drawing surfaces, textures etc.

Jan 16 2002, 23:10
Yeah, it&#39;s just that in Windoze, sharing RAM with your video card means you are taking away from memory. SO, an equivalent system would be one with 2 Gig SDRAM and 1.9 GB of it is shared with video, leaving a system with only 100 MB of RAM. ALso, accessing that shared RAM is slower than accessing dedicated RAM chips on the video card. Thats intel systems though. ARe the unix architecture machines different?

Personally, I don&#39;t believe we are too far from video cards with dedicated 512MB RAM.

Mister Frag
Jan 17 2002, 04:34
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (OBiJuan @<hidden> Jan. 17 2002,08:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yeah, it&#39;s just that in Windoze, sharing RAM with your video card means you are taking away from memory.  SO, an equivalent system would be one with 2 Gig SDRAM and 1.9 GB of it is shared with video, leaving a system with only 100 MB of RAM.  ALso, accessing that shared RAM is slower than accessing dedicated RAM chips on the video card.  Thats intel systems though.  ARe the unix architecture machines different?

Personally, I don&#39;t believe we are too far from video cards with dedicated 512MB RAM.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Some SGI systems running UNIX are based on Intel Pentium processors, and have architectures similar to our PCs.

Other workstation products have a very different design with extremely high-speed buses and memory -- they generally blow the pants off PC-based systems for anything that is graphics intensive.

I also totally agree that memory sizes on our graphics cards will grow quickly, which will only be accelerated by the fact that all major graphics chip designers are working on moving beyond 32-bit color. When that happens, frame sizes increase, as well as texture sizes.

Five years from now, we&#39;ll be laughing at the NV15/NV20 and R200/R300 chipsets...

Ex-RoNiN
Jan 17 2002, 12:51
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Mister Frag @<hidden> Jan. 16 2002,23:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">because its a load of bollox and 5 yrs or more away

ffs, even the geforce 4 wont have more than 128 megs.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
You are thinking in terms of consumer-level boards, not professional-use and workstations. Silicon Graphics SGI 540 Cobalt workstations have up to 1.9GB of video memory.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
If I was thinking on workstation level, then I&#39;d own a Gloria 2 http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

ffs, I have a budget to keep&#33;

R. Gerschwarzenge
Jan 17 2002, 13:14
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Five years from now, we&#39;ll be laughing at the NV15/NV20 and R200/R300 chipsets...[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
That&#39;s true.

Remember this?
No one would ever need more than 640K of memory. -Bill Gates

Damage Inc
Jan 17 2002, 13:20
And the other guy said "I think there&#39;s market for maybe five computers". I can&#39;t remember who that was but remember him being some IBM guy.

R. Gerschwarzenge
Jan 17 2002, 13:23
That was Thomas Watson the Chairman of IBM. He said that in 1943. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

MadMatriX
Jan 17 2002, 13:45
"in actuallity todays cards that use DDR have are the same as a card with twice as much SDR ram.. like the GF2 ultra DDRRAM.. its like it had 128mb of SDRRAM."

DDR does 2 memory functions in 1 clock pulse
doubling the speed which doubles the bandwidth to the memory. The GPU would get data quicker from the ddr
even know there was less memory.

a better comparison would be 64MB SDRAM @<hidden> 400Mhz
would be similar in bandwidth to 32MB DDR @<hidden> 200Mhz.

Jan 17 2002, 14:28
You can stick as much memory onto a card as you want. It doesn&#39;t matter as only a portion of it can ever really be kept in use, as there is a limited amount of bandwidth from system memory/CPU over the bus.

It&#39;s like building a bath tub that can hold thousands of litres but only gets filled by a pipe the size of a straw.

Jinef
Jan 6 2003, 15:41
GeForce FX anyone?

Shabadu
Jan 6 2003, 17:01
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (R. Gerschwarzenge @<hidden> Jan. 17 2002,15:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">That was Thomas Watson the Chairman of IBM. He said that in 1943.  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
What he said was (Maybe not exactly) "I don&#39;t see why there would ever need to be more than five computers in the whole world."

Or words to that effect.

Also 1 gig boards are probably used in industry, by hollywood film graphics ppl etc...

Warin
Jan 6 2003, 17:05
Closing http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif There are lots of more current threads to discuss.