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Animated
May 22 2005, 14:01
Here's a list of units identified from looking at the screenshots released so far. Feel free to make any corrections/additions.

Vehicles:
T-90 MBT
M1A2 MBT
BTR-90 APC
LVTP7 AAAV/AAV7A1 APC
M998 HMMWV
Oshkosh MTVR
Land Rover Series 3 109"
UH-1Y
Su-34
V-22 Osprey

Weapons:
AK-74
M-16A4
PKM
M249 PIP
M2-HB

HKFlash
May 22 2005, 14:03
Add to the list the M-16A4.

Heatseeker
May 22 2005, 14:11
There's a M16A4 and 249 SAW in the marines pics and AK74's and PKM on those russian special forces, that PKM looks great, well everything does http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wow_o.gif .
UH1N from the marines i think, i dont know what that truck showned in some pics is.

I think we could use some footage to see it all in action and motion and to see the abrams shoot that building to pieces, that would great http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif .

Darkhawk
May 22 2005, 15:17
The Chopper looks like an modified Bell UH1N

Jog
May 22 2005, 15:27
I think that the chopper ir British "Lynx"

http://home.wanadoo.nl/designers/aircraft/alynx/alynx.htm

BlackScorpion
May 22 2005, 15:28
M16A4 with M203... And look at the Huey exhausts. Strange? Doesn't look like any previous Huey. Otherwise, it looks like N or Y model.

da12thMonkey
May 22 2005, 15:34
The chopper's a UH-1Y notice it has 4 rotor blades where the UH-1N has 2.

There also appears to be a Sukhoi 'Flanker' in the game. Not 100% sure what model it is since it's in pieces but it's most likely the Su-34 since that's a ground attack aircraft and the rest of the flankers are prodominantly fighters.

And the M249 in the game is an M249 PIP I believe.

Jog
May 22 2005, 15:38
hmmmm, no blackhawks in ofp2 ? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif I hope there will be BHawks, because i like how they look http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

Fork122
May 22 2005, 15:46
hmmmm, no blackhawks in ofp2 ? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif I hope there will be BHawks, because i like how they look http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
Didn't the Gamespot preview say there were 3 roles to play? I think it was US Marines, US Army, and a special ops. So far we've only seen Marines, I bet the US Army part will have Blackhawks http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

Heatseeker
May 22 2005, 15:48
hmmmm, no blackhawks in ofp2 ? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif I hope there will be BHawks, because i like how they look http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
We will get to play has a Marine soldier, U.S. Army officer and U.S. SF so its very likely that the Black Hawks will be present http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif . I would rather play has a member of other countries army too tough, considering all three are U.S. and there is supposed to be a international coalition force in the game..

BlackScorpion
May 22 2005, 16:00
HEMTT? (http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/operationflashpoint2/screens.html?page=4)

Below the Huey gear (or whatever you call it), the 4 wheels...

And yeah, the plane must be from Su Flanker series, and is pretty surely Su-34.

But the Huey exhausts just don't match to N or Y model!

Animated
May 22 2005, 16:10
i dont know what that truck showned in some pics is.
The truck is an Oshkosh MTVR. I'll keep updating the list so people dont have to search through the other posts, as well as changing the wording slightly so it doesn't appear that I get all the credit. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

HKFlash
May 22 2005, 16:15
Where is the image with a marine carrying an M-16A4 with an M203?

BlackScorpion
May 22 2005, 16:25
Where is the image with a marine carrying an M-16A4 with an M203?
Here. (http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/operationflashpoint2/screens.html?page=25)

Heatseeker
May 22 2005, 16:28
Where is the image with a marine carrying an M-16A4 with an M203?
Here. (http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/operationflashpoint2/screens.html?page=25)
I can only see the barrel and hand guards/shields, whatever their called, there is no 203 versio at the moment, otherwise im sure they would have showned it to us http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif .

BlackScorpion
May 22 2005, 16:32
Oops, seems so... Just had a quick look, at the barrel looked so large I thought it was a M203. Sorry. Thanks for clearing that.

HKFlash
May 22 2005, 17:18
Where is the image with a marine carrying an M-16A4 with an M203?
Here. (http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/operationflashpoint2/screens.html?page=25)
I can only see the barrel and hand guards/shields, whatever their called, there is no 203 versio at the moment, otherwise im sure they would have showned it to us http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif .
Good question...is there a M203 compatible with theM-16A4? I know its able to use MODs like the M4 SOPMOD...

*EDIT*

Sounds like It can...


Quote[/b] ]Colt M16A4 Rifle is the fourth generation of the M16 weapon system. The M16A4 Rifle still represents the world standard by which all other weapons of this class are judged. Its combat proven performance is verified by the fact that over 8 million M16 weapon systems have been produced and placed in military service throughout the world. With a record that is unmatched by any other weapon system, it is no wonder that the U.S. Marine Corps considers there to be “… no finer service rifle in the world today”.

Colt M16A4 Rifle, now in production, features a performance identical to the M16A2. Physical differences between the two weapons include a removable carrying handle with an integral rail-mounting system on the M16A4. When the carrying handle is removed, any accessory device with a rail grabber, such as an optical sight, can be mounted on the weapon.

The M16A4 Rifle barrel is designed to accept the M203 Grenade Launcher which can easily be assembled to the rifle offering the user both point and area firing capabilities. Also, all US and NATO rifle grenades can be fired without any supplementary equipment.

The new concepts of rapid deployment, mobility and increased firepower play a major part in the overall strategy of modern warfare. Increased emphasis is now put on small tactical units that are able to “get in and out” fast. Increased need for a lightweight, highly dependable, accurate service rifle with added fire power therefore exists. Colt M16A4 Rifle is the ultimate rifle in 5.56mm.

http://www.colt.com/mil/M16.asp

Necromancer-
May 22 2005, 19:22
I wonder if they also added the "m16 unreliability" in OFP 2. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif

damn that would suck for MP..
USA's first objective would be to capture the enemy's weapons cache. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif

Commando84
May 22 2005, 21:59
the m16 reliability? nah maybe for the Early Vietnam scenarios but not in modern war, i think the new m16's should work better than old one's?

simulacra
May 22 2005, 22:30
They work somewhat better but they're not close to being as reliable as the AK47 or even some european weapons like the FN FNC and the HK G36.
The problem is that the internal parts in the armalites are constructed to be as snug as possible, and the gas system returns too much powder gas into the chamber which clogs up inside.
And with large amounts of gun powder that's being burnt this is a problem, the internal parts gets sticky and if sand or comes in something is bound to happen.
When gun powder burns carbon monoxide is "created" and it goes into the chamber, who here knows what carbon + heat + pressure produces?  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

Heatseeker
May 22 2005, 22:49
Not many units showned so far but knowing that the Marines, US Army, Army SF and the ruskies will be there we can predict/speculate already what will be in the final version of the game http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif .

STGN
May 22 2005, 23:19
They work somewhat better but they're not close to being as reliable as the AK47 or even some european weapons like the FN FNC and the HK G36.
The problem is that the internal parts in the armalites are constructed to be as snug as possible, and the gas system returns too much powder gas into the chamber which clogs up inside.
And with large amounts of gun powder that's being burnt this is a problem, the internal parts gets sticky and if sand or comes in something is bound to happen.
When gun powder burns carbon monoxide is "created" and it goes into the chamber, who here knows what carbon + heat + pressure produces?  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
Funny as the M16(series) beat out the FN FNC in the Canadian relaiblity tests AFAIK.
Problem is not so much the gun powder as you can fire 1000+ rounds throught an M16 before it jams. Actualy its because the gun runs best wet(lubricated, if you continuently lubricate it you can fire over 6000 round with out jamming) and then when it gets in contact with dust it is more likely to jam. Marines also now recomens to lub the rifle much less when operating in sand conditions.
STGN

Antichrist
May 22 2005, 23:31
Where exactly did you find BTR-90 on those screenshots? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif

simulacra
May 22 2005, 23:44
The problem is that the m16 is a combat weapon, not a match grade weapon.
I've stopped counting about how many stories I've read about armalites breaking down in the worst of moments, when ypu're out in the field it's not like you can lube the gun whenever you feel like it.

When I was in the service (Swedish Army, which uses a licensed and refined version of the FNC called AK5) and out on exercises it sometimes took 3-4 weeks before you had the chance to clean the gun properly, still ihad none weapon jams apart from when the bolt made managed to get a round jammed in the ejection port. (I even had that happen with an AK47 ::):)
I can't honestly say that I KNOW that the armalites are designed poorly and therefore are having problems because I've only fired some 100 rounds on a shooting range with an old A2, but I've read my share of horror stories.
And if you're studying the design of the AR-15 you see that the powder gases travel from the barrel through a feeding pipe into the chamber and THEN pushes the bolt backward unlike the AK-design which is a developed version of an old german design from ww2 that uses a rod connected to the bolt.

RUKH
May 22 2005, 23:45
The old my gun is better than yours contest http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
Weapon care is required regularily in a combatzone anyways so the tighter tolerances in the M16 does not really make any difference for a proffesional army, as opposed to guerilla/terrorist type fighters who only need something that goes bang in the general direction of pointing.

The M16a2/a4 seems to be efficent as it is still in service and a cost effective alternative has not really surfaced.
And when it comes to such a sizeable army like the US, the money IS a large factor...not the only though.

Edit: another swede!
We use a FN FNC variant here in sweden (AK5 license built) and if i remember correctly it did not pass without flaws either, and is beeing built with looser tolerances for our varied climate, and we only have two types of climate to worry about.

remember..
The most lethal part of any warrior is training!

Major Fubar
May 23 2005, 00:04
..all of this is interesting, but offtopic. Please stick to the topic at hand...

Animated
May 23 2005, 09:37
Where exactly did you find BTR-90 on those screenshots?
Here (http://ofp.gamezone.cz/news/pics2/OFP217.jpg), here (http://ofp.gamezone.cz/news/pics2/PC8.jpg) and here (http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/operationflashpoint2/screens.html?page=30). There are others but the vehicle is most easily identified in these screenshots.

KEVBAZ
May 23 2005, 10:15
st truck? (http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/operationflashpoint2/screens.html?page=47)

Rommel
May 23 2005, 11:28
Ah there is a Unimog, British Lynx chopper, and tents. :P
Oh and a Desert Looking Island/Map. (not sure if they still have islands..)

KEVBAZ
May 23 2005, 11:29
i didnt see a lynx?

BlackScorpion
May 23 2005, 11:49
who here knows what carbon + heat + pressure produces? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
You can produce diamonds in guns?

http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif

Animated
May 23 2005, 12:00
Ah there is a Unimog, British Lynx chopper, and tents. :P
The helicopter is definitely not a Lynx, it's a variant of the UH-1 Huey, but nobody seems to be sure exactly which variant it is. Could you also point out where the Unimog is?

Also, I think the "truck" in this screenshot (http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2005/138/914623_20050519_screen049.jpg) is actually two MTVRs parked together.

sicilian
May 23 2005, 12:33
The Chopper looks like an modified Bell UH1N
The front face looks exactly like a huey uh1 but the upper rotor safer and the turbines look not like uh1 models!

Latest modification I know is the 412 which has 2 turbines and 4 blades right, but the turbines are connected with the tail and not distanted so much and it has no rotor safer.

The rotor safer makes it looking like a lynx but it isn't.

I don't know if this is a real model or out of phantasy.

Antichrist
May 23 2005, 13:21
Where exactly did you find BTR-90 on those screenshots?
Here (http://ofp.gamezone.cz/news/pics2/OFP217.jpg), here (http://ofp.gamezone.cz/news/pics2/PC8.jpg) and here (http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/operationflashpoint2/screens.html?page=30). There are others but the vehicle is most easily identified in these screenshots.
As I mentioned before in another thread - that is not BTR-90! http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

BlackScorpion
May 23 2005, 13:31
Errr... Yes, it (http://legion.wplus.net/guide/army/ta/btr90.shtml) is.

Jotte
May 23 2005, 17:53
The Huey is a UH-1Y (this have been stated befor in the tread btw http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif ), the new 4 bladed version of of this old Marine workhorse. It have the same engines as the new AH-1Z.
Follow this link to read more on the manufacturers site. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
http://www.bellhelicopter.textron.com/en....-1Y.cfm (http://www.bellhelicopter.textron.com/en/aircraft/military/bellUH-1Y.cfm)

http://www.bellhelicopter.textron.com/images/heroUH-1YmPg750x260.jpg

Hellfish6
May 23 2005, 17:59
Yup. UH-1Y.

Heatseeker
May 23 2005, 18:40
But the exaust look very diferent, anyone ever saw a versio like that? (http://ofp.gamezone.cz/news/pics2/OFP29.jpg) http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif .

Animated
May 23 2005, 18:51
Okay, lets stick with the UH-1Y.

da12thMonkey
May 23 2005, 19:06
But the exaust look very diferent, anyone ever saw a versio like that? (http://ofp.gamezone.cz/news/pics2/OFP29.jpg) http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif .
I think those are just exhaust dampeners to reduce the chopper's Infra-Red signature, they're probably not always fitted. We only fit them to our Lynx fleet over here when we're in a warzone, along with AN/ALQ-144 countermeasures.

sicilian
May 24 2005, 07:26
The Huey is a UH-1Y (this have been stated befor in the tread btw  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif  ), the new 4 bladed version of of this old Marine workhorse. It have the same engines as the new AH-1Z.
Ah nice to know. I searched on other bell sites but didn't find that nice thing! Thx for ya info.

Thunderbird
May 24 2005, 13:20
Btw where have you seen a SU-34 mates ? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif

BlackScorpion
May 24 2005, 13:21
The plane wreck at the mosque/church...

sa8gecko
May 24 2005, 13:24
V-22 Osprey ?
Link (http://www.simhq.com/_technology/technology_053d.html)
three small pictures at the bottom of the page.

Landwarrior87
May 24 2005, 17:26
can anyone see a minigun in any of the choppers?? because it doesnt look like well be able to shoot from within choppers :-(

Daniel
May 24 2005, 17:48
V22 Osprey  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

EDIT: Sorry, just noticed the previous post about it http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif

And about no guns in choppers, I don't think we've seen enough of the game to judge that yet. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

Gollum1
May 24 2005, 18:23
can anyone see a minigun in any of the choppers?? because it doesnt look like well be able to shoot from within choppers :-(
I haven't seen hand grenades or extra mags being carried by soldiers, what have you done BIS, plz implement hand grenades and reloadable weapons!! :-(

Mr ThunderMakeR
May 24 2005, 18:36
But the exaust look very diferent, anyone ever saw a versio like that? (http://ofp.gamezone.cz/news/pics2/OFP29.jpg) http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif .
When looking through SimHQ's Forums (http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/boards/bbs/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=138;t=000002) I found this post

Quote[/b] ]OH MY GOODNESS! A Yankee WITH turned exhaust! That was fast! We just recently turned the exhaust on the Zulu!

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My System Specs: Found Here
If yer flyin' Jane's F/A18, SFP1 or Wov stop by Our Squadron Web Page
And if yer flyin' Pacific Fighters, stop by here!

Sounds like someone whos in the know, or possibly even works on the AH-1Z/UH-1Y update program so it sounds like a recent change, these choppers are still being developed.

[IEF] Mp
May 25 2005, 00:03
I think:

Armored Vehicles:

M3A3 Bradley CFV
M1126 Stryker ICV
Avenger
M1A2 Abrams MBT
M109A6 Paladin
M270 MLRS
M6 Linebacker

BMP3
BTR-90 APC
MT-LB
T-90 MBT
T-80U
2S19 MSTA
TOS-1 MRL
2S6M Tunguska

Aircraft:

AH-1Z Cobra
AH-64D Apache Longbow
RAH-66 Comanche
UH-1Y Huey
HH-60G Pavehawk
V-22 Hosprey
A-10 Thunderbolt II
F/A-18 Hornet

Mi-35 Hind E
Mi-28N Havoc
Ka-52 Hokum B
Ka-32 Helix
Ka-60 Kasatka
Mi-26 Halo
SU-39 FROGFOOT
SU-37 Flanker

killerwhale
May 25 2005, 00:31
Hey I was wondering if the game has Ironsight like that of call of duty. the ironsight enables you to aim like you would in real life, so is this feature available in this new game..btw, who are the enemies in single players?

MATRA
May 25 2005, 00:38
I dont think we will se the Comanche on Game 2, correct me if Im roung, but I think I saw that the hole Comanche project was canceled by the US Army.