OFP2 system specs.... speculation

[Shabadu]

Hi all,

basically the thing is this...

I'm currently running my crappy old 1GHz celeron, 512MB RAM, GeForce Ti 4200 (64MB) graphics card....

recently got a small windfall of Ł280 from my employers, for some vague 'holiday pay uplift' thing, probably just trying to keep us on the old contracts happy because they screwed us over so much recently.... but I digress

I'm considering a P4, 3GHz, 1GB DDR2 RAM with relevent motherboad, upgrade....

but I'm at a loss as to whether I should wait until I can afford a PCIe graphics card, or stick with my trusty Ti4200 and go with the agp motherboad, since the Ti will be fine for everything I want it to do (including play CS:Source, I hope)

the *only* concern is whether or not I'll be able to pick up a decent AGP graphics card when OFP2 comes out, to be able to run it comfortably enough... or if I'll need to wait and get me some PCIe action.

Any suggestions, comments, insults are welcome  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif



edit: I just re-read this and I'm not sure it's very clear lol So basically what I'm asking is: do you think I should get the upgrade, to be able to run OFP now, with the chance of getting an AGP graphics card later on that will run OFP2? Or should I wait until I can afford to get a system with PCIe?

[Kastuvas]

Hehe what ever you do - may the flash be with you  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/blues.gif

[MATRA]

OPF2 will use DX9c, so SM 2.0b or SM 3.0 will be used for sure, one thing u should consider is, when it comes out if u want to play it in all his glory u will need a good grafic card.

but again we dont have a clue when OPF2 will be relesed so if I where u I dont bother with that. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[Shabadu]

OPF2 will use DX9c, so SM 2.0b or SM 3.0 will be used for sure, one thing u should consider is, when it comes out if u want to play it in all his glory u will need a good grafic card.

but again we dont have a clue when OPF2 will be relesed so if I where u I dont bother with that.  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
So you think I should just wait until OFP2 comes out?

Sorry, didn't quite understand what you meant http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

[MATRA]

What I mean was: U want to buy a new Grafics Unit now, buy one with some power and full DX9 compatible.

if u dont want to spend much money on it Ill sugest the nVIDIA 6600GT, AGP or PCI-E, if u dont bother to spend a "litle" more money, u have many cards from nVIDIA an ATI.

but again, we dont know when OPF2 comes out, so minimal specs r a hard gess.

[Gordy]

I wouldn't worry about sys spec just yet.
OFP can kill the best equiped PC today. Just drop in some quality addons and put it on high.
One might assume OFP2 will be similar in that segment.

[Shabadu]

The original point was... I only have Ł280 to go with... I can't afford a new graphics card and processor/RAM/motherboard...

I've already stated what I've currently got.

[Heatseeker]

Dont upgrade now, the game is supposed to come in 2006 and that could be close to 2007 so new hardware will come and current HW prices will drop, if you really want a new system to play current games in decent quality you should go with pci-e so you can upgrade graphics in the future without replacing the mobo, i have doubts that the next gen video cards will be agp compatible so my advice would be to keep saving http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif .

[Gordy]

Quote[/b] ]I'm considering a P4, 3GHz, 1GB DDR2 RAM with relevent motherboad

Don't consider, just buy.
OFP is more CPU & RAM oriented that VPU.

[hardrock]

Sapphire Atlantis Radeon 9800pro 128mb is good and cheap, not top-notch, but OFP and other games run very well with it (I got it for 180 Euro and am very happy). That way you are able to play newer games without spending too much money.


Edit: ATM it costs around 150

[Shabadu]

Dont upgrade now, the game is supposed to come in 2006 and that could be close to 2007 so new hardware will come and current HW prices will drop, if you really want a new system to play current games in decent quality you should go with pci-e so you can upgrade graphics in the future without replacing the mobo, i have doubts that the next gen video cards will be agp compatible so my advice would be to keep saving  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif .
You have a good point, but I'm trying to see what people think of what I'm looking at here http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

I'm only interested in OFP2 as far as future compatibility is concerned... do you think an Athlon 64 3200+, 1GB DDR will be a sufficient base to put an AGP card on, later on?

It'd be enough for what I want it to do now, with my old card, I'm just considering if there will be any AGP cards that will cope with OFP2. Especially given that OFP2 isn't going to be an overly graphics-heavy game, as compared to games like Doom or Half-Life. As far as I'm aware.

[Gordy]

forgot to add, that It is better to upgrade the PC's core elements first (CPU, RAM, MB). Only then you can think of up to date VPU's and other costly crap.

[Shabadu]

Quote[/b] ]I'm considering a P4, 3GHz, 1GB DDR2 RAM with relevent motherboad

Don't consider, just buy.
OFP is more CPU & RAM oriented that VPU.
AMD (Winchester) Athlon 64bit 3200+ 939pin 512kb L2cache 90nm Retail Boxed Processor With 3 Year Warranty and Fan Included. 079189 210 Ł104.79

Abit AV8-3RD Eye Skt 939 K8t800pro 8xAGP ATX Gigabit LAN, SATA150 RAID, IEEE1394, 6ch Audio, ěGuru USB2.0 Retail Box 066708 130 Ł68.07

Corsair (VS1GBKIT400C3) 1024MB (2 x 512MB Matched Pair), DDR400 / PC3200, non-ECC, Unbuffered, CL3, Memory Modules With Lifetime Warranty 054472 295 Ł59.01

Cart Total: Ł231.87



What do you think of this little lot? Been looking at AMD vs. intel and as far as I can see, Athlon 64 FAR outstrips the P4 http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

[Gordy]

Quote[/b] ]I'm considering a P4, 3GHz, 1GB DDR2 RAM with relevent motherboad

Don't consider, just buy.
OFP is more CPU & RAM oriented that VPU.
AMD (Winchester) Athlon 64bit 3200+ 939pin 512kb L2cache 90nm Retail Boxed Processor With 3 Year Warranty and Fan Included. 079189 210 Ł104.79

Abit AV8-3RD Eye Skt 939 K8t800pro 8xAGP ATX Gigabit LAN, SATA150 RAID, IEEE1394, 6ch Audio, ěGuru USB2.0 Retail Box 066708 130 Ł68.07

Corsair (VS1GBKIT400C3) 1024MB (2 x 512MB Matched Pair), DDR400 / PC3200, non-ECC, Unbuffered, CL3, Memory Modules With Lifetime Warranty 054472 295 Ł59.01

Cart Total: Ł231.87



What do you think of this little lot? Been looking at AMD vs. intel and as far as I can see, Athlon 64 FAR outstrips the P4 http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
Well, yes. But only of you have a 64 bit apps that can use this.
On the other hand, AMD 64 will be changed several times before decent 64 bit OS and apps will appear.

I don't think WIN 64 is a good choice for now.

[Shabadu]

errrrr Athlon 64 does work with 32-bit apps http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif supposedly faster than 32-bit processors do.


http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=2330&p=2

[Heatseeker]

i think your ti4200 will feel bad surrounded by all that http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif .

[Shabadu]

i think your ti4200 will feel bad surrounded by all that http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif .
lol it'll certainly feel inadequate http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif especially after lording it over my current specs.... that Celeron is choking on the GF's dust lol

[Sniperwolf572]

Well some sites have run trough few test on games available now and top hardware on 32 and 64 every test recorded similar results with both 32 and 64 only problem is that games and programs are not yet exploiting 64bit technology and are based on 32bit and actually you might have compatibility issues with games and programs since in Windows 64 it has two Program Files
1. Regular Program Files - For 64bit apps
2. Program Files (x38) (Not sure about the number) - For 32bit apps

And I.E. you can't run Splinter Cell 3 - Chaos Theory on Win64

[colossus]

Wohoo! Radeon X800 XL with 512 MB has come, good bye Ti 4200!
OFP2 will be so awesome with this card http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

[Shabadu]

Well some sites have run trough few test on games available now and top hardware on 32 and 64 every test recorded similar results with both 32 and 64 only problem is that games and programs are not yet exploiting 64bit technology and are based on 32bit and actually you might have compatibility issues with games and programs since in Windows 64 it has two Program Files
1. Regular Program Files - For 64bit apps
2. Program Files (x38) (Not sure about the number) - For 32bit apps

And I.E. you can't run Splinter Cell 3 - Chaos Theory on Win64
Yeah, but I'm not talking about running Win64 since it's not neccessary for running on an Athlon64.

Since 64bit PC's aren't entirely prolific yet, it'll take time for the extra scope to be fully utilised.

Until then, I'm (relatively) happy with regular winblows.

[HuNtA]

Don't consider, just buy.
OFP is more CPU & RAM oriented that VPU.
I beg to differ.. ive got 1.5gb ram, 3ghz proccessor.. 128mb graphics card. and on NORMAL graphics levels OFP runs slow

[colossus]

Just wanted to add something about 64-bit CPUs.
Microsoft's Longhorn is to be released next summer, that will say maybe before OFP2/"Game 2", and I hope that OFP2/"Game 2" will be compatible with this. I'm not sure if you have said anything about OFP2/"Game 2" been compatible with a 64-bit CPU, but I hope that it will be since it may happen (and will) that people after a while will start updating there OS'.

Here is a link to the article I saw:
LINK to article (http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20050617PR203.html)

[Ti0n3r]

Wohoo! Radeon X800 XL with 512 MB has come, good bye Ti 4200!
OFP2 will be so awesome with this card http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
Are you sure you're going to buy that card? When OFP2 is out you might be able to get a card twice as good for the samer prize.

I dont mean to be rude or anything. Just think you should think twice. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/confused_o.gif

[colossus]

Wohoo! Radeon X800 XL with 512 MB has come, good bye Ti 4200!
OFP2 will be so awesome with this card http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
Are you sure you're going to buy that card? When OFP2 is out you might be able to get a card twice as good for the samer prize.

I dont mean to be rude or anything. Just think you should think twice.  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/confused_o.gif
lol, it's been a while since I desided not to buy it.
But I seriously need a card that can hold until OFP2 arrives,
I don't want to spend almost $500/€400 on a high-end card that is.. not new when OFP2 comes http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

I have already started saving money for this. And thats hard evidence that I am a real OFP fan http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/notworthy.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/inlove.gif

EDIT: I was thinking of buying a SLI card but since Nvidia is working with SLI2 and that SLI isn't compatible with every game, I desided I should wait and see what the market could offer me when OFP2 comes. An option is to have a Crossfire card but there is a limit of motherboards that has the ability to handle Crossfire now, so that also gave me an idea to wait a while.

[Ti0n3r]

I think that the GeForce 6600GT could be a good card for those who want a new card but dont want to spend to much money on it. The prize i somwhere over 300€ I think. Im not sure...

But I got mine for 100€. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/nener.gif I guees the guy who owned the store was crazy. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/nener.gif

Edit: stupid me. 100€, not 10€ http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rofl.gif

[bravo 6]

if you want my suggestion/opinion here it goes,

do NOT upgrade yet! wait untill OFP2* comes out.
if you can play OFP1 with that pc you have, keep it and wait.

ATM im running a P4 3Ghz, 1GDDr 400, radeon 9700 pro 128mb, Board = ABIT GURU AI7
to be honest i OFP doesnt run better and i think i will need a better computer when OFP2* comes out http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/confused_o.gif

remember: when OFP2* comes out (+-2006) things will be cheaper http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

good luck,

[Ti0n3r]

if you want my suggestion/opinion here it goes,

do NOT upgrade yet! wait untill OFP2* comes out.
if you can play OFP1 with that pc you have, keep it and wait.

ATM im running a P4 3Ghz, 1GDDr 400, radeon 9700 pro 128mb, Board = ABIT GURU AI7
to be honest i OFP doesnt run better and i think i will need a better computer when OFP2* comes out http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/confused_o.gif

remember: when OFP2* comes out (+-2006) things will be cheaper http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

good luck,
I agree. As long as you can survive without upgrading, then dont upgrade. OFP doenst run much better on high spec computers. With dxdll I get a very low fps rate, even though I got a P4 @<hidden> 3.80 Ghz... And new video cards cant handle OFP as good as older cards like the GeForce 4 series.

[colossus]

I just hope that no one else takes the same path as EA did with BF2, otherwise I need to upgrade my relative new hardware and buy new parts.

Damn how I regret that I bought a P4 CPU, right before the end of the 487 socket&#39;s time http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/confused_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/banghead.gif

[Berghoff]

if you want my suggestion/opinion here it goes,

do NOT upgrade yet&#33; wait untill OFP2* comes out.
if you can play OFP1 with that pc you have, keep it and wait.

ATM im running a P4 3Ghz, 1GDDr 400, radeon 9700 pro 128mb, Board = ABIT GURU AI7
to be honest i OFP doesnt run better and i think i will need a better computer when OFP2* comes out http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/confused_o.gif

remember: when OFP2* comes out (+-2006) things will be cheaper http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

good luck,
Yea, considering a new GFX card has a price tag of 500-600 euro.

I&#39;m still happy with my 9800 pro, don&#39;t have any problems yet with the new games. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif Meh It can run for another year I guess.

[metallicAL]

Does anyone know if OFP2 will support 64bit?

[MATRA]

When it comes out, windows Longhorn must be out too, so Im preaty sure that OFP2 will support 64 bit instrutions.

[Radnik]

Does anyone know if OFP2 will support 64bit?
... i think there are http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/whistle.gif
i think some guyz called Maruk and Suma or something like that,
but i haven`t see them around for a awile, http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rofl.gif

[Antichrist]

I upgraded 3 months ago to Athlon64 3200+, 1Gb RAM and Radeon 9800 Pro. I am not planning any upgrade until Game2 comes out&#33;

[metallicAL]

at the moment i dont have have a 64bit computer (havent seen the need for one yet). If Game2 aka ArmA 2 will support 64bit i&#39;ll definately get one.
Then again, i might upgrade sooner due to STALKER supporting it. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

[MATRA]

STALKER was delayed -again- to 2006.

[Baphomet]

While I will buy Game 2 and Armed Assault as soon as they come out. I&#39;ll probably really not start playing them until perhaps six or so months, or at least when the next leap in pc technology occurs if it&#39;s within the time frame of game 2&#39;s release.

I&#39;m glad I waited a little while after OFP was released to buy a pc, because technology had gotten a bit better, and my pc was more capable. I want a bit of longevity to my new flashpoint experience.

If my current machine doesn&#39;t cut it. I&#39;ll just hang in there a few months until some better technology comes out and drop a wad on a smoking Game 2 machine.

[FireLord]

I have a AMD Athlon 64 3500+, 1GB RAM and a ATI Radeon x850XT and I expect this to be able to play game 2 well. I can run older games such as OFP: Resistance with dxdll on high settings with very good frame rates. I can also run the latest, graphically demanding games effortlessly, so I am sure I will be able to play game 2 on at least medium settings. (From what I have seen in the screenshots so far the game engine doesnt look like the final version as it needs a lot more anti-aliasing&#33;)

I might add however that it may be advisable to use a graphics card such as the 7800GTX that supports Pixel Shader 3.0.

[Berghoff]

Maybe Game2 will use Dx10 even and 64bit ofcourse :P

[AUS_Twisted]

(From what I have seen in the screenshots so far the game engine doesnt look like the final version as it needs a lot more anti-aliasing&#33http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
Antialiasing is part of your video card settings not what the graphics engine supports, even though it can cause some problems with certain drivers in some games. I can run old games with AA and AF on high that are so old that AA and AF didn&#39;t even exist on video cards back then.

Anyway BIS seem to choose not to use AA and AF on in there screenshots and capture there shots at the raw resolution there running in game which is good in a way as a lot of companies run resolutions of 1600x1200 with AA and AF cranked right up to take there screenshots which no one will play at anyway, it&#39;s the same with all the Armed Assault screenshots that have been released, no AA and AF on.

[FireLord]

dx10 will be released with Vista. It could use it i suppose but i dont think it will. Games such as Far Cry 2 or whatever it will be called (as i think Crytek and Ubi have gone their seperate ways like BIS and Codies) will use dx10.