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WargamingNor
Feb 15 2005, 11:49
I'm sure this is on every OFP fans mind, waiting for OFP 2.

I can actually just break it down into some simple questions;

1. Will OFP 2 be showcased at this years E3?

2. Will BIS give us any kind of community updates, news, interviews, media, etc. etc. during 2005?

3. Will the official OFP 2 site be updated this year? (http://www.flashpoint2.com)

4. Will BIS explain to the community why OFP 2 and OFP Xbox were delayed - and why the 99% silence that's been enforced?

5. I'm not sure if this question should be here (but rather in the Codemasters forum), but I'll ask it anyway; -Claire from Codemasters did an interview with Marek at last years E3. Will we ever see this interview?


Everyone else can feel free to add their own questions as they see fit in this thread.

It would be nice if Maruk or Suma would enter the forums and answer some of these questions (even just a "no comment" would suffice) - but most likely this thread will be closed... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif

I (and probably everyone else on this forum) can wait for OFP 2 - be it 2006 or 2010. But it would be nice to get some snippets of information from the developers from time to time - it wouldn't have to be very often, maybe once a month?

Well, this is just something I had to let out... now let's just see what the future holds for us OFP folks... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

MattXR
Feb 15 2005, 12:23
i agree http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

this fella
Feb 15 2005, 13:13
Quote[/b] ]I (and probably everyone else on this forum) can wait for OFP 2 - be it 2006 or 2010
I don't know about 2010 in fact if I hear ofp Xbox has been delayed for another year (I mean it's nearly spring and we still haven't heard much) then its a safe bet flashpoint 2 will be set back too.
I might loose intrest http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wow_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif. I might think "oh well another developer fades into the shadows" http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif

WargamingNor
Feb 15 2005, 13:20
2010 were (hopefully) just an example. The summer 2006 date might not hold (at the Codies site, the date is now 12 april 2006), it could be christmas 2006 or even winter/spring 2007 before it gets released.

OFP Xbox is set for june 1 2005 at the Codies site. If we don't get any information on either games before E3, I certainly hope we will learn more during E3!

I'm a patient man and a longstanding OFP fanatic - so even if both games will suffer heavy delays yet again, I'll still be here waiting for them... playing good old OFP http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

colossus
Feb 15 2005, 19:02
<s>I smell mods coming to close this</s>

BTW, noticed that number of ppl playing MP now has been lowered in the last couple of months (or maybe the whole 2004)
Maybe it&#39;s time to boost the morale http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

EDIT: I was totaly wrong http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

ebns72
Feb 15 2005, 19:07
I am wondering about flashpoint 2 also. I hope we will be given something at e3 this year, I am dying for a screenshot :P

Chiefy
Feb 16 2005, 22:06
The silence is killing me, I really want to know what&#39;s going on with it, just a few glimpses or snippets of news would reassure all of us I think. It doesn&#39;t bode well for the game when there&#39;s absolutely nothing said about it and its sites are never updated. Let&#39;s hope 2005 sees more in the way of announcements about the game.

PainDealer
Feb 17 2005, 09:12
The silence is killing me, I really want to know what&#39;s going on with it, just a few glimpses or snippets of news would reassure all of us I think. It doesn&#39;t bode well for the game when there&#39;s absolutely nothing said about it and its sites are never updated. Let&#39;s hope 2005 sees more in the way of announcements about the game.
the silence is killing every 1337 OFP maniac on the planet http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif I don&#39;t think I can hold much longer http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif

they really should say/show something. the silence in the announcement department makes me feel there&#39;s a silence in the dev department too http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif

colossus
Feb 17 2005, 11:37
The time will come, but I sure would like to see a picture.
Doesn&#39;t have to be big, could be a picture of a unfinished weapon, building, tank or car.
The picture just need to be 100x100, 72 pix/inch.
I would be talking about that for a month if I saw something from OFP2.

But the time will come. Patients people.

What the hell I&#39;m I thinking, I don&#39;t have any patient http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif

http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

Placebo
Feb 17 2005, 11:42
but I sure would like to see a picture.

The picture just need to be 100x100, 72 pix/inch.
http://img236.exs.cx/img236/2381/f4mo.jpg

http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

Hellfish6
Feb 17 2005, 12:27
Hahahaha... that&#39;s so evil. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

colossus
Feb 17 2005, 12:38
Hahahaha... that&#39;s so evil.  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
Ditto http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wow_o.gif  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif

EDIT: Errmm.. this is 96 pix/inch I asked for a 72 pix/inch.
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

WargamingNor
Feb 17 2005, 12:49
But the time will come. Patients people.

What the hell I&#39;m I thinking, I don&#39;t have any patient http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif

http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
You mean patients as in lunatic ward patients? Because that will be the faith for everyone here waiting for OFP 2... if we don&#39;t get any information soon...  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif


Patience is a virtue someone once said... but then again; someone probably said an enema is a pleasent experience...  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif


And... that screen is beyond pure evil...

Suma
Feb 17 2005, 12:51
I might think "oh well another developer fades into the shadows" http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
Original developers do not fade. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

WargamingNor
Feb 17 2005, 12:54
afugfuye/&%&/47632r¤%#Wf.... sorry, I just had a mild heartattack here...

I thought I saw a post from Suma in here... *looks again*... yep. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

gandalf the white
Feb 17 2005, 12:59
I might think "oh well another developer fades into the shadows" http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
Original developers do not fade. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
SUMA&#33;&#33; http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

allright, time to edit my post and make sense.. gotta.. control.. adrenaline...

EDIT: allright, where to start, ehh... MAn it&#39;s great to see a post from you&#33; http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif how are you? for starters&#33; http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

Say, some guys in my clan would like to play OFP online, care to join us? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif PM me if you&#39;ve got some spare minutes... oh man... this is prolly in vain... but would make a nice addition to the Compat Photography thread&#33; "Suma spotted in raiding operation" http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

Shadow
Feb 17 2005, 16:51
I might think "oh well another developer fades into the shadows" http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
Original developers do not fade.  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
Unless they use (a) crack http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

gandalf the white
Feb 17 2005, 18:38
I might think "oh well another developer fades into the shadows" http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
Original developers do not fade. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
Unless they use (a) crack http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
developer on crack..

*thinks of the graphic bugs*

Suma reveals his true self&#33; http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wow_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

Homefry
Feb 17 2005, 23:42
I might think "oh well another developer fades into the shadows" http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
Original developers do not fade. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
Unless they use (a) crack http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
Your a wiley one... eh mate? I didn&#39;t get it at first... good thinking.

At least now we know they know about this thread... and have acknowledged it.

PainDealer
Feb 18 2005, 07:16
hope they haven&#39;t _CRACKNOWLEDGED_ it... omg that was a lame one http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif

now that we&#39;ve seen Suma post here we can live peacefully for a few weeks http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

Cozza
Feb 18 2005, 07:47
the waiting not killing me I I still play ofp for hours on end http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif anyway, if there no news at this E3 from BIS then I fear the worst, http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif

MattXR
Feb 18 2005, 11:27
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

Suma never said anything about ofp at all though

http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif

WargamingNor
Feb 18 2005, 11:48
Suma never said anything about ofp at all though
That were to be expected. Anyways, it&#39;s nice to see they&#39;re alive http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

I have 2 more questions - although they will probably not be answered either...;

1. Are there any work being done on OFP 2 at all? Or is it completly on hold, until OFP Xbox is released?

2. What are BI&#39;s feelings towards everyone here that is waiting for OFP 2? Examples; "impatient crybabies", "poor souls", etc. We all know you care about your fans, but I have the feeling some among us are beginning to get disillusioned - and might abandon the whole OFP franchise (that would perhaps be their loss...). The ultimate question in this, is perhaps; why the decision to keep completly quiet, when the extreme possibility is the alienation of your fans?

Oh well, why do I ask these questions... it&#39;s pretty clear they will not be answered before BIS breaks this streak of silence. But this is a forum, where we are (relatively) free to express our thoughts... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

hardrock
Feb 18 2005, 13:06
We all know you care about your fans, but I have the feeling some among us are beginning to get disillusioned - and might abandon the whole OFP franchise (that would perhaps be their loss...)
Do you know what&#39;s funny? People were saying that years ago, and now a helluva lot of time passed and basically the same people are still threatening to loose interest in ofp and leaving the community and blah blah and although they wait on and on since they know there&#39;s no other game like ofp http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

colossus
Feb 18 2005, 13:40
Suma never said anything about ofp at all though
That were to be expected. Anyways, it&#39;s nice to see they&#39;re alive  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
Brings me a bit of hope.

PS: Placebo, you are evil&#33; http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/mad_o.gif

http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif

Placebo
Feb 18 2005, 14:36
PS: Placebo, you are evil&#33; http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/mad_o.gif

http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif
Hehehe I know, but providing the filesizes you wanted just made it hard to resist http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

bn880
Feb 18 2005, 15:14
I might think "oh well another developer fades into the shadows" http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
Original developers do not fade. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
Right, sometimes they just crash. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif

USSRsniper
Feb 18 2005, 20:00
Suma didnt talk about OFP? at least we know he is OK :P it means OFP2 will be ok :P http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

Johan_D
Feb 19 2005, 00:59
Quote[/b] ]Original developers do not fade

This analized means that the developpers from BIS, the originals ones who made OFP, and that there are now new developers around, do not, like the discs, fade away, but are around and REACT.

This only can mean, a YES, there is something going on. But it sureley dont give any dates.

---lol--------------


Seeing all the addons comming out daily and the alive of the community I think, no I feel its cruel that they dont tell a bit more in their forums. I mean, SUMA just can tell a brief intention of what they are doing. Why the secrecy? No need to give deadlines, we understand, but a little more towards us would be handy, since we also can hype it up elsewhere&#33;

Johan

bn880
Feb 19 2005, 01:15
Of course it means everything is rolling&#33; It&#39;s quite obvious. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

InqWiper
Feb 19 2005, 12:52
The problem with releasing information is that when the game is released it wouldnt blow you away the same way if you knew what was coming a year earlier. When I read about STALKER for example I was excited and thought it seemed like it was going to be very nice. If the game had been released that month I would have bought it but now I dont really care anymore. Ofcourse most people who still play OFP will buy OFP2 no matter if info is released now or the same month the game is released. The problem I think is that the public who dont know OFP will react more like me when I read about STALKER. They will become interrested and maybe even be climbing the walls waiting for the game to get out but after a year that has died away and maybe only 50% of the people who wanted to buy the game when the info was released wants to buy the game when its released. I think that is the problem with releasing information too early. It gets you excited a short while and takes some effect away from the release. I might be more or less wrong but I belive Im pretty much right. If this post is in any way weird or just stupid its because Im veery tired. I hope people will have a little more understanding about why they cant release too much information yet. I think everyone can relate to what I said about me and STALKER in some situation. I need to stop typing now or I will get more confusing http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

WargamingNor
Feb 19 2005, 13:18
I hope people will have a little more understanding about why they cant release too much information yet.
Well, the situation is "no information yet"...


I&#39;ve waited for S.T.A.L.K.E.R. ever since I first laid eyes on the game way back in december 2001... and the releasedates given over the years (&#33;) have always been pushed back. But I&#39;m still waiting for the game, and still thinks it will rock the gaming world when it comes out. The reason for me having waited patiently for this game so long, and not having lost interest is this; the developers have constantly released information, screenshots, media, given interviews etc. all the way. Not too much, but just enough for me to have retained my interest in the game.

I can&#39;t say for sure, but I think I would have lost interest and forgotten all about S.T.A.L.K.E.R. a long time ago, had GSC went into hiding and not said a word or showed anything from the game. I understand to some point what you mean, but I do not agree with you 100%.

So what you actually mean, is that BIS should not reveal any information or show anything from OFP 2 until the release is one month away? (Because if you put what you said on the very edge, that&#39;s what you mean...)

Well, if the releasedate at Codies hold (which it most likely won&#39;t)... that means we won&#39;t hear or see anything of OFP 2 before march 2006... roughly one year from now.

You must also mean that at least 90% of developers and publishers are showing bad judgement and have no sense of how to run a business - because most of them give us info on future games more than 1 month before releasing them.

Can I ask you if Illusion Softworks is your favorite developer? Because the strategy you talk about reminds me very much of how they dealt with Hidden & Dangerous 2...

Billabong81
Feb 20 2005, 05:16
I would like to see some pictures as well, but I&#39;m not specifying any file sizes for fear of what Placebo will post next http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif. A few models or ingame shots would be nice http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif. Maybe show some pictures of something that was developed but was cancelled (ie, Africa or Vietnam). Surely you have some pictures of WIP http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif

edc
Feb 20 2005, 06:33
I&#39;m kind of doubtful that much will be said about OFP2 this year, or any time in the near future.  I&#39;d love to be proven wrong, but with OFP Xbox, and VBS, I&#39;m kind of thinking that OFP2 may be pushed to the back burner, or be rushed out just kind of integrating some of the VBS stuff with the changes made to the game in OFP Xbox.  BIS&#39;s silence is kind of worrying me.  I would be satisfied with just a "yes we are actively working on OFP2", but I doubt that will happen.

Kroky
Feb 20 2005, 12:09
I&#39;m worrying about the silence too. I worry that BIS lost interest in developping OFP2 with full concentration, since VBS1 is bringing that much money. I think they already work on VBS2 and will MAYBE derive some stuff from VBS1 or 2 to bring out an OFP2 to the public. As for me I feel that OFP2 is not a priority for BIS anymore.

And maybe they are scared of bringing out any information about OFP2 since they never expected OFP1 to be modified so heavily&#33; So maybe they intended first to give out some information but realized that the community pushed OFP1 so far that it would be ridiculous to show any OFP2 screens at this stage. Think about all the availible enhancments for OFP1:

- DXDLL
- llaumax, namsky
- EECP 0.4.4
- COC CE2
- Sanctuary Anims 1.4
- top quality addons like BAS,CBT,HYK,DKM,SIG,RHS etc.
- And lot of Mods like FDF, BOH, CSLA, INV44 etc.

The bottom line is: If BIS really works on OFP2 they have to work very very hard to surpass the OFP1 quality of today.
I even fear that OFP2 when it comes out will not surpass OFP1 in every aspect. It will take years, until the community will bring OFP2 to a level beyond OFP1 of today&#33;

BIS are you up to the challenge?

this fella
Feb 21 2005, 12:58
Yeah too true, there&#39;s a hell of a lot o work to do.  And I imagine they&#39;re having billions of problems.  



Quote[/b] ]Original developers do not fade.  

wooo thanks for the reasurance.  It&#39;s obvious your a hero by the amount of posts in this thread.  Wow I talked to the lead programmer of OPF.  

Now that must be up there with meeting the queen.

WargamingNor
Feb 21 2005, 13:06
Now that must be up there with meeting the queen.
The Queen... baaah http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif

Who would want to meet her anyway... give me Marek, Ondrej or hell - just let me meet the cleaning person at BIS&#33; http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

Anyways... Kroky have some good points that makes your mind wander...

InqWiper
Feb 22 2005, 16:34
I hope people will have a little more understanding about why they cant release too much information yet.
Well, the situation is "no information yet"...


I&#39;ve waited for S.T.A.L.K.E.R. ever since I first laid eyes on the game way back in december 2001... and the releasedates given over the years (&#33;) have always been pushed back. But I&#39;m still waiting for the game, and still thinks it will rock the gaming world when it comes out. The reason for me having waited patiently for this game so long, and not having lost interest is this; the developers have constantly released information, screenshots, media, given interviews etc. all the way. Not too much, but just enough for me to have retained my interest in the game.

I can&#39;t say for sure, but I think I would have lost interest and forgotten all about S.T.A.L.K.E.R. a long time ago, had GSC went into hiding and not said a word or showed anything from the game. I understand to some point what you mean, but I do not agree with you 100%.

So what you actually mean, is that BIS should not reveal any information or show anything from OFP 2 until the release is one month away? (Because if you put what you said on the very edge, that&#39;s what you mean...)

Well, if the releasedate at Codies hold (which it most likely won&#39;t)... that means we won&#39;t hear or see anything of OFP 2 before march 2006... roughly one year from now.

You must also mean that at least 90% of developers and publishers are showing bad judgement and have no sense of how to run a business - because most of them give us info on future games more than 1 month before releasing them.

Can I ask you if Illusion Softworks is your favorite developer? Because the strategy you talk about reminds me very much of how they dealt with Hidden & Dangerous 2...
I dont think they should release no information at all but I also think it would be unwice to release too much already. There has been alot of complaints about the information they have released so far and some of it, as I understand it, has changed.


Quote[/b] ]You must also mean that at least 90% of developers and publishers are showing bad judgement and have no sense of how to run a business
Everyone already knows thats true but the problem isnt releasing information too early. The problem is they spit out crap games with too many bugs and limitations.

Batukhan
Feb 23 2005, 10:02
Ok guys, i&#39;ve figured it out. They don&#39;t give any information because:
They want the noobs out. If there are still some noobs left here in 2006, they&#39;ll make it 2008 etc. They want the true fans to hold on, so when they finally release it (of course only the visitors of this forum get to know about it), all the fans get free copies of OFP2 and oh yes, it will be the most glorious day of all&#33;

WargamingNor
Feb 23 2005, 10:45
Hmmm... did someone forget to take their pills? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif

It&#39;s a theory... but let me get this straight:

So they will not release it to the general public, but just give away free copies to everyone that&#39;s left on this forum?
And could you please clarify who&#39;s the n00bs and who&#39;s the OFP 1337&#39;s?
Seeing that there&#39;s 30 782 registered members on this forum as of now, how many of those is the real deal who will get their free copies? If they delay it until, let&#39;s say 2008, what&#39;s the number left here then?

And... who needs money http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
Making games to give away for free is much better http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif

Damn it&#39;s could outside...

[IT|Q]
Feb 23 2005, 14:14
Quote[/b] ]
OFP 2 Is Still Alive&#33; - Official
 Posted by: Chiefy on 02-21-2005 @<hidden> 12:26 - Source: Bohemia Interactive  

This News Item has been viewed 117 times&#33;
We think we speak for most of the OFP community when we say we&#39;ve been a little if not worried, peeved by the lack of updates, snippets of information and screenshots about the highly anitcipated Operation Flashpoint 2. One of the FN Network Admins, Jamie, dispatched an e-mail begging for some tidbits of information about the game. We&#39;ve received the following response:


Quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi Jamie,

I can assure you that we continue to work on Flashpoint2, the lack of
screenshots and info is simply due to the fact we want things to be right
before we release information, but rest assured we continue to work hard

Regards,

Paul.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


The reassurance that the game is still on-going is very welcome to all of us, I am sure. We all send Bohemia our best wishes in the hope that they produce as much of a corker with OFP 2 as they did with OFP. Keep up the good work, chaps.

Rest assured that OFP Files will keep you updated as soon as we catch any whiffs of information coming our way, however obscure.




Source Link (http://operationflashpoint.filefront.com/news/OFP_2_Is_Still_Alive;16491)

Lumamorod
Feb 23 2005, 15:59
As much as it is reassuring reading the bove quote, it is safe to say that OFP2 is out of the radar outside its own community.  
This in itself is not a problem, i guess, because when OFP came out it caught almost everyone by surprise.
One would expect that a "Game of the year" that has a sequel in development would have a little more buzz around it, but i guess BIS or codemasters like to do things diferently.

What really annoys me is logging to the BIS forums every now and then and still see that VTV forum post from 2003 about the war scenarios in OFP2...

WargamingNor
Feb 23 2005, 16:54
As much as it is reassuring reading the bove quote, it is safe to say that OFP2 is out of the radar outside its own community.
That&#39;s pretty much what I thought also... but to my surprise the other day, Norways biggest newspaper (VG) had run a poll on 2005&#39;s most wanted games on the 31st of december 2004 (cross platform wise).

It passed me totally by, until I saw it here just a few days ago.

But the big surprise... wait for it... was that OFP 2 came in at 25 out of the 50 most wanted games in 2005&#33; http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

And on the top 20 list for just PC games, it came in at place 12&#33;

My report on the poll&#33; (http://www.flashpoint2source.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=59&mode=&order=0&thold=0)

Source (VG - article is in norwegian&#33;) (http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=260592)


Just too bad they all have failed to realize that OFP 2 won&#39;t come out this year, but rather in 2006... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif

gandalf the white
Feb 23 2005, 17:28
I wonder...

IF they release screens of Operation Flashpoint now, it doesn&#39;t means anything.

Farcry&#39;s levels / voices / weapons / cutscenes / GUI was changed in the last minute, thesame for Doom III , People now miss those scenes. so maybe it&#39;s better that they don&#39;t release any informa...

well, maybe just what they are PLANNING to do&#33; http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/mad_o.gif come on&#33; just a few lines of when they are planning to suprise us again&#33;

colossus
Feb 24 2005, 00:09
Farcry&#39;s levels / voices / weapons / cutscenes / GUI was changed in the last minute, thesame for Doom III , People now miss those scenes.
They were giving a hint about what they could expect, right?
Maybe they could give us a hint about what we can expect in OFP2.

It&#39;s clearly that they just want to tease people with pictures,
movies and interviews. But that doesnt have to mean that it
would be accurate, it will simply just give me a clue about
what the creators are thinking.

MattXR
Feb 24 2005, 13:53
I&#39;m worrying about the silence too. I worry that BIS lost interest in developping OFP2 with full concentration, since VBS1 is bringing that much money. I think they already work on VBS2 and will MAYBE derive some stuff from VBS1 or 2 to bring out an OFP2 to the public. As for me I feel that OFP2 is not a priority for BIS anymore.

And maybe they are scared of bringing out any information about OFP2 since they never expected OFP1 to be modified so heavily&#33; So maybe they intended first to give out some information but realized that the community pushed OFP1 so far that it would be ridiculous to show any OFP2 screens at this stage. Think about all the availible enhancments for OFP1:

- DXDLL
- llaumax, namsky
- EECP 0.4.4
- COC CE2
- Sanctuary Anims 1.4
- top quality addons like BAS,CBT,HYK,DKM,SIG,RHS etc.
- And lot of Mods like FDF, BOH, CSLA, INV44 etc.

The bottom line is: If BIS really works on OFP2 they have to work very very hard to surpass the OFP1 quality of today.
I even fear that OFP2 when it comes out will not surpass OFP1 in every aspect. It will take years, until the community will bring OFP2 to a level beyond OFP1 of today&#33;

BIS are you up to the challenge?
can i just say.. BIS does not create VBS1 thats BIA so if VBS2 was in development thats BIAs concern not BIS  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

and since they said OFP2 would be better than VBS1 which i have i would say ofp2 will be better than all of these
- DXDLL
- llaumax, namsky
- EECP 0.4.4
- COC CE2
- Sanctuary Anims 1.4
- top quality addons like BAS,CBT,HYK,DKM,SIG,RHS etc.
- And lot of Mods like FDF, BOH, CSLA, INV44 etc.
because if you have seen VBS1 vids 80% better than ofp..

MattXR
Feb 24 2005, 14:07
What i like about it is.. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif on the BIS website it says


Quote[/b] ]Experience the intensity of modern-historical warfare

and since they still have nam pictures all over and modern pictures all over there website. i think it will be like getting 2 games in one lol.. modern-historical warfare http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

Phleep
Feb 24 2005, 14:10
BIS has not been shy in the past of hiring highly skilled modders for its VBS development. I don&#39;t think too many of the revolutionary modders would be offended if BIS took their ideas so as to save time developing that aspect.

I would look forward to the inevitable features which modders cannot provide:

bumpmapping
larger view distance esp. in aircraft
terrain LOD
more intricate localised terrain details (ie. not just a blatant grid when you view from a hilltop)
pixel shader shadows able to be projected on objects, units and terrain
weather affecting terrain (ie. rain making it muddy)
wind patterns (possibly visible as cloud, flag and tree motion)
underground/water
improved vehicle simulation (not just gimmicks)
flowing water (not just visually)
AI CQB ability and more natural reactions
improved collision detection and destruction

Some of these are implemented on the XBox version so a super computer shouldn&#39;t be necessary, just lots of hard work and time - which is what they have.

BIS is very mathematically inclined as shown by their night skies and the motion of heavenly bodies. Many solutions to the above problems are certainly not beyond them, in fact are unlikely to be properly implemented by other companies.

I don&#39;t expect all of the above but trust BIS enough that most will exist in the sequel.

WargamingNor
Apr 13 2005, 11:39
Well, now it&#39;s been 2 months since I started this thread, and we&#39;re none the wiser.

At least, we will get the answer to my first question in a months time or so (the question being if OFP 2 will be shown at this years E3).

Waiting for OFP 2 and any information about it, is turning into a long, dark (blind?) alley.

Colonel_Klink
Apr 27 2005, 22:53
I&#39;m not really a skeptic, but was listening to John Lennon and was inspired:

Quote[/b] ]
Apologies to John Lemon & Yolko Oh Know http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

Imagine there&#39;s no OFP2
A shocking thought I know
No new game to play with
It would really be a blow
Imagine all the people
Playing OFP1...

Imagine there&#39;s no addons
It isn&#39;t hard to do
Nothing new for our game
And no scripting too
Imagine all the people
Playing on MP...

You may say I&#39;m a skeptic
But I&#39;m not the only one
I hope someday you&#39;ll join us
And we will play OFP as one

Imagine no cheats online
Everyone the same
No need to try to win
All comrades of the game
Imagine all the people
Playing OFP around the world... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

colossus
Apr 28 2005, 11:06
LMAO&#33; http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
You done it again  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

WargamingNor
Apr 28 2005, 11:12
Lol, where do you take it from Klink? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif

This one + the one you had with que sera sera is pure genius&#33;

I&#39;m still ROFL here...

Colonel_Klink
Apr 28 2005, 12:16
Ok probably the last one;

To the music of Green Beret by Sgt Sadler

Quote[/b] ]See the players at their PCs,
Players who just love OFP
Players enjoying the game they play,
Those who strive on Multi Play.

Heart of boldness in their chests,
These are players, OFP&#39;s best,
One hundred players will fight today
But only one wins on Multi Play.

Trained to fight in a virtual land,
All kind&#39;s of combat, even hand to hand
Ofper&#39;s who play all night and day,
Aiming to win on Multi Play.

Heart of boldness in their chests,
These are players, OFP&#39;s best,
One hundred players will fight today
But only one wins on Multi Play..

Out in the kitchen the family wait,
Their OFPer has met his fate
He has died on a Nogovan Hill,
Leaving this in his will:

Put a heart of boldness in my son&#39;s chest,
Make him one of OFP&#39;s best,
He&#39;ll be a player who&#39;ll fight one day,
And maybe he will win on Multi Play.
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

theavonlady
Apr 28 2005, 12:29
OFP2 lies over the ocean.
OFP2 lies over the sea.
The question that we are all asking
Is what will be shown at E3.
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

Scrub
Apr 30 2005, 02:01
(&#33;roflmao&#33;)

Mods, can we have a OFP Poets/Lyrical Society thread?  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif

Seriously, I have never before seen the love of a game inspire outbursts of song.  This isn&#39;t too scary, because it&#39;s done tongue-in-cheek, but it still should be one HELL of a message to BIS.  I&#39;ve been playing games for more than 20 years, and outside of Star Trek fanatics (IMHO, truely scary in every sense of the word), I have never seen such devotion and immersion to the life of the game.  Like Hockey fans over here in the states, or Soccer everywhere else http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

(Gotta release some info on OFP2 before the music turns from Lennon to Metalica and Eminem&#33;   http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif )