View Full Version : New release date worldwide: Spring 2006?
TheLemon
Aug 6 2004, 07:05
The title says it all. Source: http://www.codemasters.com/flashpoint2/usa/operationflashpoint2.php
god no!!!!!!
FU......!! y@<hidden>&&#*&*
Fuck!!!!!!. By that time. I'll be in the Australian Army. and nearly finsed the rifleman course http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
Balschoiw
Aug 6 2004, 07:40
Thx for the info. Now we have something we can work with. Still a really long wait, but I guess it will be worth it.
An investment in VBS looks better and better everyday now.... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/ghostface.gif
theavonlady
Aug 6 2004, 07:53
I need a drink! http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
/avon brews a cup of green tea
BoweryBaker
Aug 6 2004, 07:55
This news actually makes me happy. I know the best things in life are worth waiting for, ever heard that before? This is excellent news, because i know i made alot of suggestions and i know its going to take time to make this the best war game ever made and when it comes out I'll be one happy man, I KNOW THIS MAN.
Balschoiw
Aug 6 2004, 07:58
First I felt like :
http://www.soulwalking.co.uk/%A5Artist%20GIF%20Images/Frustrated-Man.jpg
but it´s good to know where we are right now.
I must say, i'm not surprised, but until now I was hoping the date 2005 would stay http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
When shell I do until 2006? CM or BI has to do something for more OFP gamers....
I would have been happier if i had heard it from BIS first.
Metalmalte
Aug 6 2004, 09:31
hm, quite long time. but well, so new mods have time to work...
i'll still keep on playing ofp till it comes out...
maybe then we have fdf mod version 7.5! who knows!??
theavonlady
Aug 6 2004, 09:36
maybe then we have fdf mod version 7.5! who knows!??
I would be more concerned with whether our existing OFP will be able run in the interim under DirectX 17.1 with an ATI 14800 4096MB adapter. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif
SpeedyDonkey
Aug 6 2004, 09:48
How unamusing.
Albert Schweitzer
Aug 6 2004, 09:57
http://www.bradthegame.com/jones/angry-dog.jpg
What to do now? How can I find something to do, is there a therapy group out there that helps me to find back to life and fill the space.
VBS.... I am gonna get it, the decision has be taken after I read the new release date. Just hope you CIAs do the step too one day.
quicKsanD
Aug 6 2004, 10:16
Operation Flashpoint 2 timeline
16 April 2003 The sequel to the best military simulator is announced.E3 is being hyped for news information
14 may 2003: Very little is actually found out.The release date is set as the end of 2004
February 2004: E3 is again being hyped for new information unveiled about Operation Flashpoint 2 along with screenshots and trailers
14 May 2004:Absolutley nothing on E3,OF2 presentation is cancelled and taken off the list
August 2004:Operation Flashpoint delayed for 2006
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
[think positive]At least there isn`t any meteorit speeding up to Earth to mark our extinction until 2006[/think positive]
Franz_Schall [SWAF]
Aug 6 2004, 10:20
At least, this time we have an serious and realistic release date to project our desires to.
Always thought that late 2004 / early 2005 was way too optimistic for a serious approach.
this is the best news I've heard in a long time
the fact that BIS can plan such a long time ahead gives a strong impression that as a company they are financially alive and kicking
otherwise they would rush out OFP1-sequels like most other companies do
OFP1's potential hasn't been exhausted yet
EDIT: sorry, bad english tends to be confusing
agree!
i guess at this moment bis is focusing on the X-Box release, after that is done they may focus on OFP for X-Box2 or something...
The fact that we get no news,screens or presence on E3 or GC makes me think that they aren't even working on OFP 2 for PC...
Just compare games like s.t.a.l.k.e.r or Battlefield 2: both games are planned to be released in 2005 - and there we have allready many screens, pics and vids...
So Bis hasn't something they can show, or their marketing is going the complete other way (which in my opinion will only leed to a more shrinking community - and with this to less servers and less pupils playing on it)
sad.. really sad.
this is the best news I've heard in a long time
the fact that BIS can plan such a long time ahead gives a strong impression that as a company they are financially alive and kicking
otherwise they would rush out OFP1-sequels like most other companies do
OFP1's potential has by no means been exhausted already
hmmm, you can also argue the other way round:
They have no clue on when its done (or even if its done sometime) and so they put the 2006 date.
And imho the potential of OFP is in no way exhausted... just compare OFP with latest games of this type like soldner...
hardrock
Aug 6 2004, 10:27
http://ofp.gamezone.cz/_hosted/hardrock/pic/cry.jpg
without words...
Franz_Schall [SWAF]
Aug 6 2004, 10:29
When looking on the bright side of it, just think of several opportunities for OFP2 combined with a decent 2006'er engine and our already proposed ideas in the OFP2-Suggestions forum.
I'm happier with an high-quality in depth gaming experience as something shallow rushed out to gain high profits.
SpeedyDonkey
Aug 6 2004, 10:29
Pants
Berghoff
Aug 6 2004, 10:32
Well, it's a long long wait and we alreadt waited long...but the more advanced and less buggy it will be the better! http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
Oh my http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
Franz_Schall [SWAF]
Aug 6 2004, 10:37
Frankly, after such a long time I need something new to play with, but unless the whole editing and modding community shifts onto VBS1 (which is very unlikely due to high costs), I don't see a way to achieve this with for so long.
SpeedyDonkey
Aug 6 2004, 10:46
I wonder if we have that bloody Xbox to blaim? That could be one of the reasons.
Berghoff
Aug 6 2004, 10:51
I wonder if we have that bloody Xbox to blaim? That could be one of the reasons.
eh, or VBS1?
Anyway, Spring 2006 is kinda long away, means another PC upgrade. But there are other nice games by the time OFP2 is here, like HL2, Stalker http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif
MASTAKILLA
Aug 6 2004, 10:53
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif 2006 i´m almost 30
BIS c´mon hurry or i need stronger glasses and or a nurse before i can play OFP 2
yup, blame Xbox I say... damn thing http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/mad_o.gif
Anyway at least they have given themseleves a lot of time to make it and they will probably, hopefully, finish before then so if they want they can release before the date given. It just gives them a realistic time to work to.
sim
Col. Kurtz
Aug 6 2004, 11:07
Fuck!!!!!!. By that time. I'll be in the Australian Army. and nearly finsed the rifleman course http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
I'm in a similar boat, chances are I'll be in the NZ Army doing officer training by the time the second part of 2006 rolls in (assuming that the Autumn date is based on the Northern Hemisphere calendar).
It would be nice to think that the target release date turns out to be false and we get OFP2 enjoyment next year, but if not, getting frustrated will not speed up its release.
What BIS could do to occupy us until 2006 is release Flashpoints source code to the modding community http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
theavonlady
Aug 6 2004, 11:11
In my opinion, there is a serious chance of the community dwindling away.
One thing that could defer this is more consolidation of mod and addon teams and most important: getting more people to produce quality missions and campaigns.
But I've been saying that all along. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
I'm quoting out of a German Forum a post from lester, I think he's damn right:
Quote[/b] ]Das wird eine verdammt lange Zeit werden und ich glaube nicht das die wenigen verbliebenden Projekte diese lange Zeit füllen können.
Imho sind wirklich echte Innovationen kaum noch mit den doch recht gut ausgeloteten Möglichkeiten machbar,
auch wenn ich noch einige (allerdings viel kleinere) Ideen hätte/noch auf der Liste hab.
Gescheite Planung ist imho definitiv anders, schlußendlich muß sich BIS nicht wundern,
wenn zwischendurch tatsächlich eine echte Konkurenz auftaucht und die Masse der verbliebenen Comunitiy hinfortreisst
Translation
This will be a damn long time and I do not believe, that the remaining projects can fill up this time. At the moment real inovation is limited through the OFP engine, and the possibilities are nearly exhausted, even if I got a few more ideas, but nothing special.
Clever planing is definitly something else and finally BIS doesn't have to wonder, if until 2006 other good games come out, and the remaining community moves over to these games.
I hope I've translated it will enough, but it expresses my own opinion very well. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
Dauragon
Aug 6 2004, 11:17
I wonder if Duke Nukem Forever will be released by then http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif ?
Damn http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif I'm all sad now...
Mr Burns
Aug 6 2004, 12:23
What to do now? How can I find something to do, is there a therapy group out there that helps me to find back to life and fill the space.
well, if you read this you´re right there http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif
--
for me too buying vbs1 is getting more & more imaginable..
if i´d only won in hte lottery http://www.ec-board.info/images/style_silverblue/smilies/ugly.gif
Quote[/b] ]In my opinion, there is a serious chance of the community dwindling away.our therapy group dying ?? please nooo http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
Odin [AEF-Kampa]
Aug 6 2004, 12:29
maybe pick the best Modeller/Scripter/Cpp-Coder out and ask them to work for Free http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
Sad news, but surely BIS won't leave us out in the cold for long.
Might even mean some extra goodies for OFP1 if we're nice. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif
Albert Schweitzer
Aug 6 2004, 12:51
No, I think by now the community is no longer connected by the game only, but by a certain OFP-culture http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif. I doubt this community is gonna break apart.
I will stay to the bitter end, I like the forum, I like the members, I like the topics being discussed here... and I will soon be back for multiplayer sessions.
BUT we have to think whether we switch to VBS. The only problem is, the younger ones will not be able to follow (pretty costly). But by now 50% of the members in this forum are not regular OFP-players anymore.. but come to this forum to meet old friends and have a good talk.
Dont be so pessimistic. Let me remind you when OFP got out. The first time I logged on here was to ask only one short question about a mission,,, and see how it ended....I molested you with nearly 5000 comments since. Nah ... I stay! http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
2006? i cant see 2006 on that page. it says coming in 2004
Longjocks
Aug 6 2004, 12:57
[think positive]At least there isn`t any meteorit speeding up to Earth to mark our extinction until 2006[/think positive]
We can only speculate that is the case. Be fore-warned... boogeywoogeywoogy!
This news brings good and bad prospects depending on your disposition.
I dont understand why BIS dont say anything about ofp2, looks like they cant talk about that, i dont understand, one year ago, marek make 2 or 3 interviews, say things like three theatres in ofp2, etc..., but last year BIS suddenly stop speak about ofp2, and thats makes me fell sad, i dont undestand why they dont want to say anything about ofp2 even they know that ofp have a very very big community behind http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
PD: Sorry for my bad english
PD2: Could be nice that now someone from BIS say anything about the release date....
CounterForce
Aug 6 2004, 13:39
I would have been happier if i had heard it from BIS first.
you are not alone....
I really hope this is worth the wait. And I hope we get more information about OFP2 in the meantime.
Most people believed that OFP2 would be postponed.
But only few ever thought that it would be postponed until 2006!
kerosene
Aug 6 2004, 13:40
I'll tell you this much, if i have to wait till 2006 this better the best f**king game Ever. or im gonna be pissed
2006 is worse than I expected, but I really hope the time is used for some serious improvements. Ah well, glad I got me VBS for the time... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
Captain America
Aug 6 2004, 13:44
well np but I hope BIS will made a good job on ofp 2 because I dont like to wait 1.5 years for nothing like by Deus Ex 2 ...
Evishion
Aug 6 2004, 13:46
2006 http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/mad_o.gif
but.. think like this.. how longer it takes = better result !!
Oh yeah: If it's still 1 1/2 years away, please consider to give us a patch or two. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
Matthijs
Aug 6 2004, 13:54
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
Hardly a surprise I'd say. To be honest, I don't care. I have always loved OFP, still love it, and will love it for ages to come. Still no game at the horizon that rivals OFP.
This news just inspires me to continue working on OFP1 stuff. Maybe it will inspire other mod-makers too?
Makivelli
Aug 6 2004, 13:56
Shit http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wow_o.gif Oh well more time to get computer upgrades.
major gandhi
Aug 6 2004, 14:04
sad news, I'm really thinking about buying vbs1 now. anyway ofp1 is still the only game of its kind avaiable.
now, it would be really time to release the ofp source code to the ofp community. than the community could try to improve the engine themself
Madus_Maximus
Aug 6 2004, 14:13
Or a new addon pack that updates the engine to the same (or better) as the Xbox version (1.5 methinks). And as a little bonus maybe a high res pack that replaces EVERYTHING (pretty much) with new higher detailed models and textures, VBS1 quality for the whole game. That'd be nice and I bet it'd be a lot easier and faster than you'd think.
It's okay. The addon makers and community brainiacs now have more time to improve OFP to the limit. There have been made huge steps already, now go on! Take the OFP engine to its limits and beyond!
I'll still be here. OFP keeps rocking.
[OFPC] Daedalus
Aug 6 2004, 14:18
http://home.datacomm.ch/laeser/kind5.jpg
damn! http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
bleh, ofp1 will be dead when ofp2 arrives http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
i guess they are busy making ofp to xbox.. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif
talk about selling out the true ofp fans.
time to change the name to OFP2 forever http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif
Albert Schweitzer
Aug 6 2004, 14:25
Time enough for me to buy an island... let it be reshaped to look like Everon and to invite all of you for a little 1985 west against east party.
Fart-Nark
Aug 6 2004, 14:26
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif iam so sad http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
gandalf the white
Aug 6 2004, 14:28
VBS.... I am gonna get it, the decision has be taken after I read the new release date.
and i think that is indeed the reason they did... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
i'm all for ofp2 but will it be pushed back any further, if they managed to keep to their first date, i'd be playing it now, i'd hoped that for me birthday in 2005 i'd be able to get it but now i need to wait 1.5 years, dunno if i can hack this *opens the whiskey*
[OFPC] Daedalus
Aug 6 2004, 14:32
Time enough for me to buy an island... let it be reshaped to look like Everon and to invite all of you for a little 1985 west against east party.
lol maybe this one? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
http://www.appleby.net/yellowpages/krk.jpg
I guess we'll be happy if we're going to play it in 2 years time. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif BIS, please be good and release a physics patch to fix the collision detection problems, so we can survive those 2 years. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
cassandra
Aug 6 2004, 14:38
initial thoughts and feelings have me thinking this is terrible news, though in light of hindsight ofp isn't your average game and isn't a simple matter of getting an engine, a bunch of animated models and scripting linear levels then putting on a shelf for fools with money.. (vbs aside).. no, we're going to have to wait long and good to be pleased with our extraordinary expectations we have for bis and their lovely little creation - did this honestly come as a suprise to anyone? after thinking about it it occured to me that we all already knew this in one way or another by the nature of our recluse and somewhat mute software deities
so the community may deminish or subside to the few who are not coping in therapy too well, but surely if bis pull off this megalithic expectation we put on them by 2006 (or 2007), then the forums will fill with pointless debates and questions once again, indicating the life status of the ofp franchise.. if not... then the same will happen anyway probably.. and without any competition out there, the game, its fans and forums will surely thrive once again.. in the end it will all be worth it, everyone will be happy and world peace will ensue
I would like to point out to bis that they shouldn't be scared to make a comment, as we don't bite.. though as this is what I would like to say, the actual truth is we, as a community, do bite.. and perhaps leave scars too.. so as a word of advice, stay in your sturdy czech bunkers
The Rocket
Aug 6 2004, 14:43
wow, now i want to sleep in, for a loong time.. :/
I wish they wouldnt have said anything at all... getting vbs1.
funnyguy1
Aug 6 2004, 14:45
Sad but true...
We must wait:|
good lord i need a drink.............. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif
think it is time start to pray for BIS NOT screwing up........(=__=)b
Tolda ya so. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
This is what I had expected. They haven't had a single screenshot to show or any real info about what the game will even be about so it's been obvious that it would be delayed by much.
I guess this means that we will propably so a totally new game instead of an updated OFP.
I can not complain about this as I've said before, I prefer that they spend more time and overhaul the game engine. There are still many things to be done with 1.96, and OFP is still better than other titles out there. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
[OFPC] Daedalus
Aug 6 2004, 14:56
Well but now we can hope that independance lost will be published before the release of OFP2. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif
Ironsight
Aug 6 2004, 14:59
Daedalus @<hidden> Aug. 06 2004,16:56)]Well but now we can hope that independance lost will be published before the release of OFP2. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif
Independance lost was stripped down to VBS1 if you ask me
zhangpengsir
Aug 6 2004, 14:59
Please Update OFP V1.96Beta to V1.99 or V2.0 !!!
The Rocket
Aug 6 2004, 15:00
Daedalus @<hidden> Aug. 06 2004,16:56)]Well but now we can hope that independance lost will be published before the release of OFP2. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif
Independance lost was stripped down to VBS1 if you ask me
it says in IL site it is delayed until after ofp2 but let's hope it will be another expansion for ofp http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
RalphWiggum
Aug 6 2004, 15:02
i'm thinking more positively about this too. mabe OFP2 will have very advanced features(compared to OFP1).
this is the best news I've heard in a long time
the fact that BIS can plan such a long time ahead gives a strong impression that as a company they are financially alive and kicking
otherwise they would rush out OFP1-sequels like most other companies do
OFP1's potential hasn't been exhausted yet
and as Franz_Schall [SWAF] said
Quote[/b] ]I'm happier with an high-quality in depth gaming experience as something shallow rushed out to gain high profits.
and BergHoff says it well too.
Quote[/b] ]Well, it's a long long wait and we alreadt waited long...but the more advanced and less buggy it will be the better!
that's what we are all waiting for ,something better than vbs1 but not looking like far cry , i just hope they will not change too much the style of the game i don't want sunny islands with palm trees and stuff what i love in this game is the way it looks , this green atmosphere .
DAMN im getting me new cpu soon hopefully and by that time ill have top get another one noo. whats goin on BIS
pandalefou
Aug 6 2004, 15:07
i think it due to the devlopment of ofp x-box
but who will buy that game on console ?
i think BIS are "silly" in that fact...
EDIT: Me too i like the current flashpoint athmosphere so i don't like DXDLL because it blow the athmosphere of the game
plz keep this oppresive athmosphere
andersson
Aug 6 2004, 15:08
Maybe we can hope for 1.97 to ofp1?
One thing is that #@<hidden>&# autocenterview-thingy in planes and choppers.
Albert Schweitzer
Aug 6 2004, 15:09
But should I spent 300 Bucks on VBS +essential addons? I mean dont forget in 18 months there will be a much better OFP2 out! Solution? NON!
All this means is it will be twice as good. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
I know Merik said it was going to be a "very ambitious" project, so lets give him and the most excellent OFP team some breathing room and let them do what they do best.
In the mean-time Doom 3 has hit the store shelves and Half-Life 2 will be out this month as well http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
PS,
lets not forget OFP X-Box is just around the bend http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
This news does nothing but increase my suspicions of BISs real motivation for delaying this game for so long. Before VBS was even mentioned, we had Red hammer and the Gold upgrade along with a shed load of patches. After that we got Resistance. Then came VBS and the realisation that the military application of this game will earn BIS a lot more money than selling OFP2 to us, the people who put BIS where they are. Since VBS there has been the odd patch and of course lots of news about VBS2. Starting to see a pattern yet? Good people of the OFP community, I believe that this delay is nothing to do with needing more time to try to make the game as good as it can get. It's about money, plain and simple. BIS want's to make money. It's a company after all. They realise that the millitary has a far bigger budget than you or I and they are abandoning us, the community, the people that bought thier game and financed thier buisness in order to milk thier new market place. I've noticed that a few of the people on this thread are resigning themselves to buying a copy of VBS1. Well, that's exactly what they want you to do. They won't be able to charge you the same extortionate price for OFP2, that's for sure. So by releasing this announcment they know that there are a lot of people won't be able to wait and will throw thier cash away on VBS1.
If I am wrong, expect to see an anouncement soon, by BIS that they are working on an interim update for OFP1 to keep the fans they value so much happy untill OFP2 arrives, or at least some impresive improvements to the game in the way of a descent patch or two. However, If I am right, don't expect to see this post on this forum for very long.
I'll leave you to decide.
I can't believe everyone is getting upset about the release date a publisher has put forward.
Hey guys. Yeah, the delay of ofp2 sucks, but just be glad it wasn't a last minute delay, because thats sucks even more. Be glad the news was given a year before release, and not during summer 2005.
Skulleye
Aug 6 2004, 15:27
I've noticed that a few of the people on this thread are resigning themselves to buying a copy of VBS1. Well, that's exactly what they want you to do.
Yeah, that must be why they recommended us not to buy it because it's not a game. When it was released, BIS said in many posts that no one should buy it thinking it was a game, and that it was not meant for us.
am i the only one whos not suprised at all?
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif
Monkey Lib Front
Aug 6 2004, 15:32
I've noticed that a few of the people on this thread are resigning themselves to buying a copy of VBS1. Well, that's exactly what they want you to do.
Yeah, that must be why they recommended us not to buy it because it's not a game. When it was released, BIS said in many posts that no one should buy it thinking it was a game, and that it was not meant for us.
if you tell a kiddie that he should not go in that room because its not for him, hes gonna go in that room, no BAS addons for a while, lol, i see this as bis squeezing every penny out of VBS1, at 300 dollas a pop it ain't worth it and if it was not for the average gamer why would bis allow anyone to buy it eh. ]
Ah well i'm not to bothered anymore i suspected somin because there was nothing at E3.
I'm more upset over the fact we'll probably have to wait even longer before there's any new news. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
Matthijs
Aug 6 2004, 15:33
I'm just surprised that the delay of OFP2 was not made public any earlier.
Obviously the BIS team has learned much since the early days. They have improved their planning, and communication very much. Maybe one thing could improve: Black Isle never gives an expected release date. BIS might want to use that tactic too.
About VBS, just remember: VBS1==OFP1. When buying VBS1, don't expect any new "game features" in VBS1. It's only a few file, marker, and trigger juggling things. Everything you see in VBS1 from a gaming perspective, can be done in OFP1, and vice versa. In a few months time, OFP1 visuals may have improved so much, that it will surpass VBS1.
For me, the delay of OFP2 just inspires me to go on and create OFP1 stuff. There is simply no competition for OFP1 on the horizon.
Bis news outlet is tighter then a fish´s butthole.
cmon throw us a bone once in a while.
Ironsight
Aug 6 2004, 15:37
Now OFP2 is delayed can BIS release an expansion for OFP1 to keep us faithfull OFP'ers happy?
Independence Lost for example...........
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif
o well, more time to improve oxygen and texture making skills
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
waiting until 2006 ? -> video (http://tvtotal.prosieben.de/imperia/md/video/tv-total/downloads/2003/kw18/2.zip)
I read on the VBS forum that they maby are gona release a pach to VBS so that you can play Campaigns(making it in to a game you could interpitate) its good for me cause my best freind was so silly to buy it so when he gets a new computer he will actualy be able to play the game whit out lag and I get to play it too http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif .
I think its too bad if we have to wait until 2006 cause by that time I wil be out of school(I hope I will be able to goin the army) and will have little time to play it http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif .
STGN
we should get the ofp community to all pitch in and make our own ofp 2 http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif
I say we should demand new pach for ofp !
i say we shouldnt let them threat us like that !
CanadianTerror
Aug 6 2004, 16:13
Im still quite happy playing this game. As long as the addons keep flowing, I wont play anything else.
So if any mod makers are waiting for OFP2, you might as well release that unreleased addon right now!
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
You can demand all you like, it won't get us anywhere. The only thing we can do to force BIS to take notice is to not buy VBS. BIS have quite planely shown us thier cards. They only care about success and cash. The community means very little to them now they have friends in the millitary and at Microsoft.
NetWalker
Aug 6 2004, 16:24
And the worst thing is that they even come here to say a single word about this delay or about the game itself. Everything new about OFP 2 is from codemasters. BIS don´t say a shit about it. I am very disappointed with this, but i´ll still continue to play OFP 1. And if this is not much to ask, please relase a 2.00 patch to solve that collision detection problems and other bugs still present in OFP 1 and also a new campaign or new expansion pack for us !
PS: sorry the bad english.
BIS, please be good and release a physics patch to fix the collision detection problems, so we can survive those 2 years. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
I would have to agree, they have managed to improve collision detection in VBS and improve the graphic quality, so if it is using the same engine, just how hard could it be for them to transfer some improvements made in VBS engine to the OFP engine....hell they could even charge for those improvements, no-one is asking for anything for free, just a continued support for this program until OFP II is released.
Longjocks
Aug 6 2004, 16:41
i guess they are busy making ofp to xbox.. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif
talk about selling out the true ofp fans.
I don't think that's a fair attitude as I know plenty of people that are anxiously awaiting OFP Xbox. What is a 'true' OFP fan anyway?
The Xbox fans have to wait now anyway as it too has been delayed until Summer 2005 it seems.
Tozmeister
Aug 6 2004, 16:47
How about BIS reducing the price of VBS too keep us hardcore OFP fans happy?
RalphWiggum
Aug 6 2004, 16:56
again, to remind us all, VBS is not a game, and is meant to be as a training tool.
2006? woop! My basic army finishes then! Yay! http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
[APS]Gnat
Aug 6 2004, 17:01
sad .... truely sad ..... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
This news plus just this minute loosing a 200k / 70+ hours work on a MISSION.SQM file ...... without a backup http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/mad_o.gif has really made my night ...... definely time to go to bed and have a good cry.
Oh ... IMHO .... VBS is NOT going to get you through to 2006 ..... although very "tuned" it does not have (and will not at the current prices) the community that OFP:R has.
There is a small chance this OFP:R community will make it through to 2006 .... but certainly no where near the levels of support now experienced, BF2, Stalker, Doom3, HL2 etc etc will eventually fix that .... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
..... although a couple of good patches would inject some life ... hint hint
Longjocks
Aug 6 2004, 17:02
How about BIS reducing the price of VBS too keep us hardcore OFP fans happy?
Yeah, VBS1 has nothing to do with OFP. That gesture would make no real sense. As much as game communities are a good thing and I sometimes enjoy being part of them, they often have an inflated view of their own worth.
wolfbane
Aug 6 2004, 17:03
Just read this over at the forums at ofp.info
Quote[/b] ]
Quote (Bojler @<hidden> Aug. 06 2004,11:03)
Almost everyone from BIS are working on OFP for XBOX... Just a few graphic designers are working on OFP2 for now, nothing is done... Even they have no final concept how the game will look like.
Quote (Placebo @<hidden> Aug. 06 2004,11:29)
What makes you think that?
Quote (Bojler @<hidden> Aug. 06 2004,11:43)
Source in BIS
I so hope that isn´t true because that´s exactly what i feared, that they havn´t even started working seriously on ofp2 at all.
If that´s true i think the game won´t make it even with release date of spring 2006.. more like spring 2008. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
MontyVCB
Aug 6 2004, 17:04
All this means is it will be twice as good. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
I know Merik said it was going to be a "very ambitious" project, so lets give him and the most excellent OFP team some breathing room and let them do what they do best.
In the mean-time Doom 3 has hit the store shelves and Half-Life 2 will be out this month as well http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
PS,
lets not forget OFP X-Box is just around the bend http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
HL2 is not til september m8 http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif , im pretty dissaionted in the fact we heard this from a codemasters website, and there was'nt an offical press release explian why here was a delay.
@<hidden>, what? so its taken them nearly 2 years to port a game for x-box (which is a obloslete games machine for todays standards) and have nothing to show for ofp2? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/mad_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif i want to hurt someone, i kno its silly but its just the way i am.
looks like i'll being making addons for OFP1 for a long time.....
More time to finish up mods http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif Plus i wont miss the release by being in Ecuador at the time..... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
Just read this over at the forums at ofp.info
Quote[/b] ]
Quote (Bojler @<hidden> Aug. 06 2004,11:03)
Almost everyone from BIS are working on OFP for XBOX... Just a few graphic designers are working on OFP2 for now, nothing is done... Even they have no final concept how the game will look like.
Quote (Placebo @<hidden> Aug. 06 2004,11:29)
What makes you think that?
Quote (Bojler @<hidden> Aug. 06 2004,11:43)
Source in BIS
I so hope that isn´t true because that´s exactly what i feared, that they havn´t even started working seriously on ofp2 at all.
If that´s true i think the game won´t make it even with release date of spring 2006.. more like spring 2008. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
In BISs eyes
PC OFP community = 0
Microsoft = $$$
Military = $$$
Just like I was saying.
Anyone from BIS care to say anything different on thier own forums? Thought not.
RalphWiggum
Aug 6 2004, 17:23
Anyone from BIS care to say anything different on thier own forums? Thought not.
how about considering that it's 8-9 hours early there, it is really possible that BIS guys are either at home eating dinner or getting drunk at a local pub?(most likely http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif)
SpeedyDonkey
Aug 6 2004, 17:25
Anyone from BIS care to say anything different on thier own forums? Thought not.
how about considering that it's 8-9 hours early there, it is really possible that BIS guys are either at home eating dinner or getting drunk at a local pub?(most likely http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif)
Then why is Placebo here now {8^)
BIS, there's no need to be shy. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
-=BT=- Matty R
Aug 6 2004, 17:28
THANK GOD I HAVE VBS1
Longjocks
Aug 6 2004, 17:28
Then why is Placebo here now
I believe Placebo has a chip in his head that directly connects him to all the OFP forums simultaneously.
Quote[/b] ]HL2 is not til september m8 , im pretty dissaionted in the fact we heard this from a codemasters website, and there was'nt an offical press release explian why here was a delay.
It wouldn't suprise me that HL2 was delayed till Sept. I guess they figure one huge game title release in August is enough.
-=BT=- Matty R
Aug 6 2004, 17:31
1 Thing
BAS --- COME BACK!!!
I know this is off the subject, but can some who owns VBS1 tell me if it's worth the money ?
Is it really that much better than OFP?
Can you import OFP addons and Mods into the simulator and run them ?
Who ever answers the questions gets an advanced copy of OFP2 http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif J/K
By that time we all be dead... #@<hidden>$&#$%&$#@<hidden>§€ http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/mad_o.gif
hmm BIS standard logic... grab all good addonmakers and scew the public over and over again
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif
again, to remind us all, VBS is not a game, and is meant to be as a training tool.
If it is a training tool, then why do so many civies have it? This sucks, I guess I will have to play, stalker, HL2, Sims 2, etc, and then go through college before I can play ofp2. X_X
At least they've now come out and admitted the true release date. This is what many in the community have been nagging BIS about. Many of us knew there would be a huge delay because of work on OFP Xbox, and some of us predicted the 2006 release date long ago, it was just a matter of getting BIS to be upfront about it.
As for whether they don't care about the PC community, that's up for debate. The test will be whether OFP2 will be a progression towards a "war-sim," rather than a rehash of OFP with prettier graphics incorporating "console-friendly" features.
Quote[/b] ]If it is a training tool, then why do so many civies have it?
Is this even true? I checked the VBS1 page, and it's not sold to civillians. If there are civillians with it, may I ask how can I go about purchasing 2 copies for myself? Anyone?
Quote[/b] ]If it is a training tool, then why do so many civies have it?
Is this even true? I checked the VBS1 page, and it's not sold to civillians. If there are civillians with it, may I ask how can I go about purchasing 2 copies for myself? Anyone?
u missed some news my friend http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
The Rocket
Aug 6 2004, 18:20
Just read this over at the forums at ofp.info
Quote[/b] ]
Quote (Bojler @<hidden> Aug. 06 2004,11:03)
Almost everyone from BIS are working on OFP for XBOX... Just a few graphic designers are working on OFP2 for now, nothing is done... Even they have no final concept how the game will look like.
Quote (Placebo @<hidden> Aug. 06 2004,11:29)
What makes you think that?
Quote (Bojler @<hidden> Aug. 06 2004,11:43)
Source in BIS
I so hope that isn´t true because that´s exactly what i feared, that they havn´t even started working seriously on ofp2 at all.
If that´s true i think the game won´t make it even with release date of spring 2006.. more like spring 2008. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
In BISs eyes
PC OFP community = 0
Microsoft = $$$
Military = $$$
Just like I was saying.
Anyone from BIS care to say anything different on thier own forums? Thought not.
What are you talking about?
Do You really beleive what your saying?
And to all others, just be happy it wont take them 5 new years for a new engine..
and wolfsbane whoever said that must be wrong, I'm pretty sure they have been working on ofp2 for some year now, of course it has taken some extra time porting for XBOX, remember the memory issue?
and if BIS didnt care why would they even have patches for us or a forum we can discuss in??
grow up!
And BIS doesn't have to state anything that might not even be true, it can be done earlier or later, it may look like there will be a spring 2006 release but it doesn't have to be.. Something that seems to be hard to implement now might be easier in just a few weeks!!!
EDIT: oh and another thing, if BIS wanted money why wouldnt they let CM publish it, it would get more sales !
Its because of that god damn XBOX.son of a bitch I might just fucking get VBS1.Worth the money I could bye 7 VBS1's in the next 2 years.
Well the fucking game better be worth it BIS http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/mad_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/mad_o.gif
Hellfish6
Aug 6 2004, 19:34
Bikecop - watch the language. That's totally uncalled for. If you're that upset about a game, maybe you need to take up gardening or knitting instead.
Cool !
Now we can get some new addons for OFP.
The Later, the Better.
Hellfish6
Aug 6 2004, 19:39
**PAY ATTENTION**
I have no desire to close this topic, but if everyone is just going to complain about the new release date, I may as well just close the topic down. It's one thing to allow freedom of speech (which, I might add, is not guaranteed on these forums) but it's another thing to just leave a topic open to let people whine and moan ad nauseum.
Nobody is happy about the delay. I bet you BIS is not either. But it's a necessity. Live with it.
Therefore, if there is nothing more useful to say, this topic will have lost its usefulness and relevance and will be closed.
MontyVCB
Aug 6 2004, 19:42
what would u deem as useful tho, we can't really BS eachother and say its a great idea (even if its needed). cuase that would be lying. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
If I am right, don't expect to see this post on this forum for very long.
I'll leave you to decide.
What did I tell you. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
For the sake of peace and unity on this forum though, I am very pleased that OFP will take this long to make. I am glad to see that I am not the only one who has better games to play untill it does get released.
BIS, we love you. You would never dream of letting down your faithfull fans. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
I'm off out to spend a couple of hundred quid on VBS.
Tomislav
Aug 6 2004, 20:12
the worst fact is that BAS does not work together until Ofp2 is out.
NZXSHADOWS
Aug 6 2004, 20:45
Its nice to see a release date.Im looking forward to seeing more news about it in the future.
Delayed.... not at all suprised.
Whats with software companies and the tendency to screw-up release dates. Valve and HL2 ring a bell to anyone?
Why do so many people jump to their conclusions regarding OFP2 release-date? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif
You all know BIS is probably the most generous developer you have heared of. Think of all the patches and addons you've got FOR FREE for OFP1.
I believe the main reason for a postponed release is added code and content.
I bet we will all (maybe not all, but most of us) be very happy for the delayed release once it has been finnished and released http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
For those of you moaning about being done with college before OFP2 is out. Well... that's good for you. In case you did'nt notice, OFP is aimed to be a mature game for mature players http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
i wouldnt trust the 2006 release date.
what says that they wont postpone it another 2 years after that.
best just to forget about ofp2 atm ..i sure will.
@<hidden> .. ohh the big update like resistance u mean?
nothing is for free . the bugfixes are common in every trade without cost.those patches was in my book allready payed for when i bought the 3 cds.
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif this sucks http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif
If OFP2 is being delayed because of Xbox and/or VBS, then maybe they should either stop those projects or delegate them to someone else. Or maybe get a larger dev. team.
NZXSHADOWS
Aug 6 2004, 21:19
You all know BIS is probably the most generous developer you have heared of. Think of all the patches and addons you've got FOR FREE for OFP1.
BIS is the best when it comes to communication with them.Every time Ive pm a dev ive alway git a response back.So if they want to take it easy and do it right than im all for it.And I hope others will respect there action aswell instead of acting like abunch of tit babies without any tit.
Not to mention the tools an docs to add your own content in everyway possibly.So please be cool with the decisions and go with the flow,And besides,BIS doesnt owe you a damn thing.
[ZG]BUZZARD
Aug 6 2004, 21:30
Strange, from all the positive thinking I've seen, none stated an obvious fact so far... by 2006 we'll all be running OFP in max viewing distance, with tons of stuff in sight, and no lagg because we upgraded our PCs at least one more time! (Considering the game came out in 1999...). http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif
SpeedyDonkey
Aug 6 2004, 21:33
The Game came out in 2001 http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
BUZZARD @<hidden> Aug. 06 2004,23:30)]Strange, from all the positive thinking I've seen, none stated an obvious fact so far... by 2006 we'll all be running OFP in max viewing distance, with tons of stuff in sight, and no lagg because we upgraded our PCs at least one more time! (Considering the game came out in 1999...). http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif
And we will all have to tone down the graphics to medium detail in OFP2 because it is made to last into the future and future hardware http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif
And the game came out 21st June 2001 http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
Ah quit crying and stop acting surprised.
There's NOTHING up at the official OFP2 website. No screenshots, no movies, no entirelyprescripted E3 demo.
Even games that are nothing like ready get shown at the E3.
That obviously meant at least late 2005.
They aren't doing this to "force" you into buying VBS1 or FlashpointXBox. They don't actually want you buying VBS1. Go read their FAQ:
Quote[/b] ]Q. Should I buy VBS1?
A. No. It's not a game. Don't buy it.
etc.
Just be glad that they are getting the time to do a proper job.
If that is because they are selling VBS1 (nothing to do with this delay. VBS1 = BIA. Flashpoint 2 = BIS) and FlashpointXBox then great. Flashpoint was a perfect idea ("War!") let down in some areas by what felt like rushed or even unfinished execution. More time = More ideas crammed in.
The games industry does, after all, run on money.
If you're thinking of buying VBS1 as an interim measure I'd suggest you take a long hard look at what it offers you for the money you'll be spending. It's not that different to Flashpoint. If the money is at all an issue, give it a miss.
What will keep Flashpoint alive is good missions and campaigns.
so that means 2006 = 2007 there allways late http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif you all know how it go's atleast we know we will be battleing in 2007 in OFP2 i hope.. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif
good thing for Wargames Mod http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
Friedchiken
Aug 6 2004, 21:56
Actually, I'm also really happy about this.
Now I know that Codemasters is allowing more time for the BIS devs to work on all of the projects. It would be a disaster for everyone if ofp suffered the same publisher arguements as with Soldner.
Right now I'm playing Knights of the Old Republic so I guess I don't need to wait for anything http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif
You guys should try playing more casual games. Other wargames just suck compared to OFP, and maybe you should play something like Korsun Pocket. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
Or watch Anime, something like that http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/ghostface.gif
BIS, please be good and release a physics patch to fix the collision detection problems, so we can survive those 2 years. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
I would have to agree, they have managed to improve collision detection in VBS and improve the graphic quality, so if it is using the same engine, just how hard could it be for them to transfer some improvements made in VBS engine to the OFP engine....hell they could even charge for those improvements, no-one is asking for anything for free, just a continued support for this program until OFP II is released.
I completely agree. I would gladly pay for an add-on that included improved collision detection/response and other improvement from VBS1!
Sgt Savage
Aug 6 2004, 22:01
Does this mean BAS might open again? Plenty of time to complete the TONAL map. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
USA 4 Ever
Aug 6 2004, 22:15
Its hard for us to wait but I think the wait will not be that hard. We have been playing OFP for 3 years now....whats 1.5 more years lol. Besides just think of all the cool stuff that going to be updated in OFP2! http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
WargamingNor
Aug 6 2004, 22:19
No big surprise...
Most is said already in here.
...but:
Could someone from BIS please come on here and confirm this? Or are we not worth it? It can't be that hard for someone from BIS to just pop in here and say "yup that's right... 2006 it is".
Another thing, is it BIS themselves of Codemasters who has made this projected date?
I have a seriously hard time thrusting publishers... especially when it comes to releasedates. Spring 2006 will then probably be more like september-december 2006... if not into 2007 sometime http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
Bottom line is that if this is true, OFP 2 is still at least 2 years away. Will the community survive this long? I certainly hope so (but I've been known as an hopeless optimistic...).
EDIT: just to prove my point in not trusting in publishers... check out the official Codies OFP Xbox site! (http://www.codemasters.com/flashpointxbox/usa/flashpoint-xbox.php)
It still says spring 2004... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif
toadeater
Aug 6 2004, 22:24
I'm not surprised by this. Games of this size at minimum take two years to make, with three years not being unusual, and quite a few going up to as much as five. The XBOX version not being done was a pretty obvious indicator.
Just an OFP Freak
Aug 6 2004, 22:52
I used to see VBS as a good and quality product but have never dreamed it would steal the time off of our beloved OFP2...
/me is pissed http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/mad_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif
WargamingNor
Aug 6 2004, 23:02
Perhaps it's time for BIS to change this page:
http://www.bistudio.com/games/of2.html
...as it still says "Expected release of Operation Flashpoint 2 is late 2004"... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif
Oh come on people, HL2 took 6 years to develop, and that looks like its going to be a good game. So why shouldnt we let BIS have that amount of time to work on OFP2?
You are all very very impatient. I dont see how you got past the lobby in multiplayer!
WargamingNor
Aug 6 2004, 23:28
Just to prove again that I don't trust publishers:
http://propellku.com/images/ofpcp/diverse/proof1_crop.jpg
And, for Australia it says this:
http://propellku.com/images/ofpcp/diverse/proof2_crop.jpg
But is autumn in kangaroo land the same as spring here, or have they started delaying again already...? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif
Still waiting for the official word from BIS...
Oh come on people, HL2 took 6 years to develop, and that looks like its going to be a good game. So why shouldnt we let BIS have that amount of time to work on OFP2?
You are all very very impatient. I dont see how you got past the lobby in multiplayer!
How much of those 6 years for HL2 can be attributed to the code that was stolen? If I recall they had to postpone release while they technically re-made the game....
I'm absolutely pissed off at this, I don't so much mind the fact that we'll have to wait for so long for this game to arrive, I hate having to wait that long, but then that's because I'm really looking forward to it.
What pisses me off, is the fact that nothing has been said... all there is, is that stupid screen that says Coming Spring 2006 and absolutely NO info or updates on anything, anywhere.(as far as I can tell, I've looked and they didn't even announce anything on the Codemasters forums)
I hope BIS or Codemasters will at least explain why... if they don't, then I'd suggest that the X-Box port and VBS1 have taken up their time...
Which is ridiculous because the X-Box port will doubtless be a pile of crap(no offence, but games rarely survive the transition, as far as I recall... someone will probably prove me wrong http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif )
and VBS1 is one hell of a sell-out, if the army can't train their people without the use of a bloody simulator then what use are they? *I* could probably go kick some army arse on VBS1, does that make me a good soldier?
Oh come on people, HL2 took 6 years to develop, and that looks like its going to be a good game. So why shouldnt we let BIS have that amount of time to work on OFP2?
You are all very very impatient. I dont see how you got past the lobby in multiplayer!
How much of those 6 years for HL2 can be attributed to the code that was stolen? If I recall they had to postpone release while they technically re-made the game....
I'm absolutely pissed off at this, I don't so much mind the fact that we'll have to wait for so long for this game to arrive, I hate having to wait that long, but then that's because I'm really looking forward to it.
What pisses me off, is the fact that nothing has been said... all there is, is that stupid screen that says Coming Spring 2006 and absolutely NO info or updates on anything, anywhere.(as far as I can tell, I've looked and they didn't even announce anything on the Codemasters forums)
I hope BIS or Codemasters will at least explain why... if they don't, then I'd suggest that the X-Box port and VBS1 have taken up their time...
Which is ridiculous because the X-Box port will doubtless be a pile of crap(no offence, but games rarely survive the transition, as far as I recall... someone will probably prove me wrong http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif )
and VBS1 is one hell of a sell-out, if the army can't train their people without the use of a bloody simulator then what use are they? *I* could probably go kick some army arse on VBS1, does that make me a good soldier?
The code was stolen end of last year. The game was supposed to be released in a month or so but looking at the leaked version the game was far from being finished so I am sure it would have been delayed even if it had not been stolen.
The VBS1 has been developed by BI australia so I doubt it has anything to do with this delay. I don't doubt that OFP gamers would beat any army in VBS1 but the idea is not to become good at VBS1 but to become good at the real thing. Simulators are good additions to the normal training.
The xbox version is propably to blame for the delay but I am sure that the version they will release in 2006 will be much more a new game than they had planned for. This means that I'm not surprised if they'll completely rewrite the game engine instead of updating OFP.
What I do agree with you is that I would have wanted some info from the developers. I understand that some business situations might make it hard to give some info but any info would have been better than total silence. Being silent too long only makes people frustrated and angry.
@<hidden> .. ohh the big update like resistance u mean?
nothing is for free . the bugfixes are common in every trade without cost.those patches was in my book allready payed for when i bought the 3 cds.
Have you forgotten about patch 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 and 1.85(res) ?
They are all included in your GOTY-edition, but not in the original Flashpoint. These are addons that we have gotten for free.
SU-25, Vulcan, AH-64, CH-47, Hummvee, Kiowa, Laserdesignator, Kozlice, Huntingrifle, Bike, Bus, MM-1, RG-6(6G30), Steyr AUG, XMS, G36
Might be something I've missed aswel.
OK, I see all these people saying they want to buy VBS1. Unless I'm completely lost, it clearly states on the VBS (http://www.virtualbattlefieldsystems.com/purchasing01.html) website:
Quote[/b] ]The VBS1™ products are only sold to federal, state, and local government agencies for military, law enforcement, homeland defense, and first responder training.
Now, how is it that you people are buying it? I asked before, and instead of an answer I got a smartass remark.
@<hidden> .. ohh the big update like resistance u mean?
nothing is for free . the bugfixes are common in every trade without cost.those patches was in my book allready payed for when i bought the 3 cds.
Have you forgotten about patch 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 and 1.85(res) ?
They are all included in your GOTY-edition, but not in the original Flashpoint. These are addons that we have gotten for free.
SU-25, Vulcan, AH-64, CH-47, Hummvee, Kiowa, Laserdesignator, Kozlice, Huntingrifle, Bike, Bus, MM-1, RG-6(6G30), Steyr AUG, XMS, G36
Might be something I've missed aswel.
Most developers put out patches for their bug-riddled games, in what way is this different?
ExtracTioN
Aug 7 2004, 01:13
I don't understand most people http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif
Delaying OFP2 means for me better game the more time you spend on something the better it will be come out http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
There are lots of games out and comming out + the MODS that will be finnished for OFP1 http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
Maybe BIS is fooling us and they might release OPF2 end 2005 http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wow_o.gif
Just let's stay calm and we will see http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
OMG I am not sure what to say.I thought the late 2004/early 2005 release date was too soon,but 2006! Yikes
And what profit to Bis if they update OFP1 to keep us hanging around here? No money in that,I don't expect any free updates.
Gonna have to offer VBS1 at a price we can afford and make it regular uselike,so we can mod with that and such.
Does it have multiple firing points? I don't think so, I am depressed now.
At least it gives them time to hire me,lol
OK, I see all these people saying they want to buy VBS1. Unless I'm completely lost, it clearly states on the VBS (http://www.virtualbattlefieldsystems.com/purchasing01.html) website:
Quote[/b] ]The VBS1™ products are only sold to federal, state, and local government agencies for military, law enforcement, homeland defense, and first responder training.
Now, how is it that you people are buying it? I asked before, and instead of an answer I got a smartass remark.
That's in the US & Canada via Coalescent.
The rest of the world can order it direct from BIA.
I think Coalescent are opening sales up to everyone this month.
OK, I see all these people saying they want to buy VBS1. Unless I'm completely lost, it clearly states on the VBS (http://www.virtualbattlefieldsystems.com/purchasing01.html) website:
Quote[/b] ]The VBS1™ products are only sold to federal, state, and local government agencies for military, law enforcement, homeland defense, and first responder training.
Now, how is it that you people are buying it? I asked before, and instead of an answer I got a smartass remark.
Apparantly only in the USA does that rule still apply,which is where I live
/me Opens up OFP and satchels himself all over the place
RalphWiggum
Aug 7 2004, 01:20
again, to remind us all, VBS is not a game, and is meant to be as a training tool.
If it is a training tool, then why do so many civies have it? This sucks, I guess I will have to play, stalker, HL2, Sims 2, etc, and then go through college before I can play ofp2. X_X
cause some civies get it just because they love it? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
regarding VBS1 sales, it is available anywhere in the world, except here in USA. so we are screwed once again. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif
VerySolidSnake
Aug 7 2004, 01:25
You guys know what? I'm actually happy that it has been delayed. That insures quality, it also means that Codemasters isn't riding BIS's backs to get the game done on a deadline. This insures a better quality product. As much as I hate to wait, the wait is going to be so much more worth it.
I hate playing games that make me say to myself "if only they spent more time on it, it would've been so much better". So quit complaining! Look at the bright side!!! http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
SpongeBob
Aug 7 2004, 01:50
Maybe OFP2 is being delayed because its going to be released for XBox at the same time for the PC.
OK, so I'm screwed out of VBS1.
Anyway, back on topic. I can't believe how whiny this community is. Where were most of you that you're actually surprised by this new release date? Unless you had your heads up your collective asses, it was quite evident OFP2 was not going to be released anytime soon. I'm starting to feel sorry I nagged BIS so much about being upfront with the community, I had no idea they would react like this. Bitching and moaning will not get OFP2 completed any quicker.
Bottomline is with the Spring 2006 release date, that means there's a good chance OFP2 will be a quality product, not a rushed one. I know, I know, if they hadn't started working on OFP Xbox, we likely would not have to deal with this delay, but the fact of the matter is BIS needs to make money like any of us. As long as OFP2 and OFP Xbox are treated as two different products for two different types of people, I will be pleased. I'm just hoping OFP2 will cater to the "war-gamers."
Now, if only I could find a way to buy VBS1.
Quote[/b] ]I think Coalescent are opening sales up to everyone this month.
And you know this how? Not to sound condescending or anything, just wondering if you're actually stating fact, or an opinion based on something you've read somewhere.
PhilippRauch
Aug 7 2004, 03:39
I remember having read, that for the first OFP they started development in the early 90s... if not late 80s .. so good thinks/things http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif do indeed take awhile...
(it was in some interview.. the scan was here on the forum i think?)
and there is alot of space for improvement...
even engine wise.. just look at that dx .dll thingy...
also all the modmaker becoming better and better...
i would save my money for hardware, not buying VBS1 ..
so each upgrade makes my OFP1 better/faster/prettier
last but not least... gives us non-modders time to become modders ourselves... ;)
peace!
keep going!
shinRaiden
Aug 7 2004, 03:40
Hmm... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif Why is patience so hard for 133t jedi? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
1) VBS is handled by BIA/Colesceant, no 'significant' load there. People keep disappearing and reappearing with bless()'d email addresses... = business is growing...
2) Scant peeps about the xBox, except that being on the xBox and being OFP 1.5, it can't talk to the PC's... right now.
conspiricy theory... maybe the net code is finally getting overhauled, and we will see major delaggage and JIP patches, as techdemo patches?
3) I strongly doubt everyone in BIA and Florida speaketh Czech. Maybe we could be seeing much improved tools too?
4) Remember that OFP is a totally different type of simulation, that's why the CS weanies don't like it, and the military does. All EA has to do is go to one vendor, license a sound engine, pick a LOD engine from somebody else, and blindly pick an AI/physics package off the shelf, feed it through the megabucks n00b packaging system, and presto, insta-game.
That's not OFP, and I think BIS could be hiding the next generation of Uber-Architects in the Spanel brothers.
5) Go back and dig up the interview where Marek spills the beans about the whole life history of the Posiden project, and the companion history of dealing with publishers. The fact that we were even blessed with OFP at all...
6) Team Fortress 2. Total Anihilation 2.
7) The problem with rushing a product, is that if they had a quality product in mid early 05, would it run on win64, and would win64 be stable? Can we even do more than laugh ourselves silly at the notion of Microsoft shipping a reasonablely less-buggy OS?
If BIS has all their wits together, and works their vendor connections with MS, etc., OFP2 could be the flagship Win64 sim/game, so good that it would be illegal for us civies to own or export it. In that case it's a good thing that Codemasters is a UK corp.
8) The problem with too many feature patches is that would take away the reason to buy ofp2, so we do kinda have to wait.
9) I'll be 26, and god-willing, I'll be around, but I can't predict between here and there any better than Codemasters can pull dates out of the air.
10) Since they are going to take their time and do it right, please post some additional manuals, at least for OFP2. To go along with the commented configs and comref, we also need official WRP specs and all the 'hidden' p3d names so we can make stuff too.
Inshallah, all goes well, but a .plan would be nice. That's helped all the other games get and hold a high PR http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif profile.
philcommando
Aug 7 2004, 03:52
lol! c'mon guys, give BIS a break. The original makers were geniuses for they could see into the future create something called ofp1 that has no rivals!! Even today i still feel like a doctor examing the handywork of GOD whenever i open up just the config. I bet many people laff at them when they started approaching cash backers for ofp1.
Thru the years they have been supportive of the community, patches here and there, sometimes free, sometimes for a few dollars more that we as fans wont begrudge them of it. Furthermore, some of the developers could well be amongst us with the annonymous nicks used, prodding us, giving us tips here and there on how to improve the game. They have to remain annonymous cos some of the modders do use copyrighted material and would get OFP's cash backers into trouble, cant really blame them.
I am sure the original creators of OFP are not money mongers, for something like this needs more than money to motivate one to create - it needs dedicated passion and interest. Money does fuel the games industry so let us not begrudge companies in making money and count our blessings that there are other talented hobbyist who shares their work for free, they are so good that its better than the ones BIS gave us - tiger shark, marfy, dkm, just to name a few.
In truth, what do we all expect of OFP2?..lol! the only way they could satisfy us is to use the technology of today - teleportation into the game itself by quatumn physics which scientists had developed a way, only that its a tiny particle used now and would take a lifetime to teleport humans. My point is - how realistic can a game be? It will never replace real life, therefore lets use what we have and make things better, there's still plenty of life in ofp1 UNTAPPED, enjoy the closeness of ofp realism, laff at some of the ridiculous, and log out of the computer a happier person. Thats wat a game should be and ofp1 gives u that experience and more. Have fun http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif
Longjocks
Aug 7 2004, 04:45
Just to prove again that I don't trust publishers:
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But is autumn in kangaroo land the same as spring here, or have they started delaying again already...?
So, you're trying to say Codies can't be trusted because the news has been out for one day and they've not finished updating their sites? The logic is astounding!
On your second point though, without trying to sound too harsh, may I ask you what country you are from? I ask because the education standards there are obviously very low. This is not a personal attack on you as it may not be your fault, unless you spent your school years sitting inthe back row flinging elastic bands at the kids in front of you. The thing is that we are taught this basic information about the seasons and the Northern & Southern hemispheres in primary school.
Just to clarify my own thoughts on the matter.....
Yes, I find the news disapointing, but I also find many peoples reaction to the news as somewhat more disapointing.
Being 'pissed off' because a game has been delayed, quite frankly, shows you have sad, miserable lives, and you seriously need to get out more.
All this crap about the X-Box version and VBS taking up development time......What the hell? Why the hell should you or anyone for that matter dictate what Bohemia Interactive Studios does with it's time. You should not ever concern yourself with what others are doing with their time. Were some of you deprived learning the simple social skillls of manners in your childhoods?
FFS, take the news with a pinch of salt. If your really anal about it, I hope you take it up the ass, and then consider whether your actually worthy enough call yourself apart of the 'core' community.
If by then you realise your not, I sincerly hope you take your business and comments elsewhere.
Enough of these infidels. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/blues.gif
cleanrock
Aug 7 2004, 09:42
I just hope that BIS will be able to sell OFP to console gamers.
But it seems a bit far fetched to expect console gamers to play a war simulator when OFP is too non-arcade for most PC-gamers.
I wonder if OFP for XBOX will have to be a success for us to see OFP2 for PC in 2006.
Perhaps BIS will have the time to improve OFP and make it harder to cheat in OFP http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif.
WargamingNor
Aug 7 2004, 10:33
So, you're trying to say Codies can't be trusted because the news has been out for one day and they've not finished updating their sites? The logic is astounding!
On your second point though, without trying to sound too harsh, may I ask you what country you are from? I ask because the education standards there are obviously very low. This is not a personal attack on you as it may not be your fault, unless you spent your school years sitting inthe back row flinging elastic bands at the kids in front of you. The thing is that we are taught this basic information about the seasons and the Northern & Southern hemispheres in primary school.
Omg...is it possible? Can someone be this blind to irony and other nice cars?
Where to begin...?
I do NOT trust any publisher on releasedates! Not Codies, not EA, not UBI, etc... you get the point...? The picture I threw in was just to illuminate the fact, not to say that "hey, Codies are a bunch of morons who don't know what they're doing!". I wonder... do you by any chance work for Codemasters?
Secondly... I myself am very aware of the seasons of the northern and southern hemispheres. Maybe it didn't come through clearly enough that this was meant as a funny/ironic/etc. remark... you didn't see the http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif smilie I put at the end of the comment by any chance?
I'm not sure I can manage to explain this properly to an individual as dead-serious as yourself, but it was meant to be a funny comment, hinting to my point about publishers taking dates out of thin air and throwing around.
But I'm sorry if it was misunderstood. Next time I'll be sure to either spell it out or don't use humor at all. Maybe then you are happy and don't do personal attacks... (I know you said it wasn't meant to be... but it comes through that way nonetheless...
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif )
Kakarotto
Aug 7 2004, 10:59
Giving a late 2004 / early 2005 release date was their first mistake. They should have known there was no way they could make that deadline, and should have changed it to 2006 once we entered 2004. They don't even have any screen shots yet, and I sincerely doubt it is because they are going to reviel it all at once just before it's ready. They are just simply not far enough in the development process for whatever reason, and that's okay, but you guys shouldn't be surprised when you see people getting upset. When people see a date, the majority will believe it, even though they should better. All you people saying the delay is okay because they get more time to make the game better aren't entirely correct, as they are still just plain making the game. I would bet it isn't more than 50% done yet, probably somewhere between 35% and 45%. Even though 2006 is a much more realistic release date I am still going to bet they won't meet that either, and the game will be released sometime in 2007. You can't expect a game of this magnitude to come out only a few years after the originals release, even though they give you a release date saying so and telling you that it is coming along just fine, yet there being no proof of it coming along at all.
And their second mistake was porting Operation Flashpoint to the X-Box. Not only does this slow down the development time of OFP2 considerably, but it's a waiste of money and recources. Compared to a game like "The Chronicles Of Riddick" OFPs graphics are terrible, and owners of the X-Box, the most graphically capable console system, are not interested in that no matter how great the gameplay. Even with all the updates they are giving to the game for the console it will still not appeal to the average console gamer. Another thing is the limitations of the X-Box. Although the X-Box can handle higher graphics than what OFP offers, it is still confined by stuff like low RAM. OFP won't be OFP without it's large levels and large battles, but consoles can't handle that. So they are going to have to cut back on some things, or find ways around them. And another issue is the X-Box controller, which even though it has the most buttons of any console controller, will never be able to give you the same level of control over your action menu, units, orders, and movement compared to a mouse and keyboard. And OFP needs this control to be OFP.
Well that's the end of my rant, thank you for reading it. If you wish to disguss the contents of my post I would be happy to do so.
scousejedi
Aug 7 2004, 11:02
I thought Christmas 2005 so Im not surprised. I bought OFP: CWC. OFP:RH, OFP:Res and OFP:GotY. I paid money and got some shiney CDs. BIS owe me nothing. Good luck guys - release it when its done.
It would be nice if BIS took a few of the talented community makers and made a new patch with a few of the things the modding community has been asking for and then released a new product similar to Resistance.
That would keep non core BIS people still working on the big money making projects, would give 'amateur modders' vital experience and exposure, the fans would get some new OFP stuff, BIS / Codemasters would get their name exposed to the public and we could all have some new toys to play with.
OFP1:Resistance2
Pappy Boyington
Aug 7 2004, 11:05
only complaint i have is theres no offical explaination as to why.
as to it not being released til later. i dont mind one bit http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
will actualy give me a chance to sit back and enjoy Y2K3 for awhile. worked for 5 months on perfecting it. and now i can finnaly enjoy my work for awhile.
as well as finish up a project list for USCG
for those of you askin "what am i gonna do until then?!" the simple answer is, invest your time into Y2K3 or EECP. both mods enhance the current OFP into what will become known as OFP 1.5 since they ofer upgrades, features, and model/textures not availble 3 years ago. givem both a try, you may go for one or the other, but you will NEVER (want to) go back to the default OFP again http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
Colonel_Klink
Aug 7 2004, 11:07
Just thinking what I'll be doing in Autmn 2006..
Well I'll be 56.. probably have another grandchild, hopefully the software packages I'm making will be selling well, should have a new car.. will have just moved into our new house, my wife and I will have celebrated our 26th wedding anniversary, and My brand new computer will have OFP2 installed..
Keep positive lads.. The wars not over until the white flag is raised, and I don't see BIS raising one yet.. so why should we...
Anyway there will be plenty of new things around in OFP1.. I might even get an addon or two finished by then http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
BIS isn't trying to be your lifelong friend OR screw you over for the fun of it, stop taking game releases so seriously ffs.
@<hidden> a lot of people http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
Quote[/b] ]I think Coalescent are opening sales up to everyone this month.
And you know this how? Not to sound condescending or anything, just wondering if you're actually stating fact, or an opinion based on something you've read somewhere.
BIA are very good at keeping us in the loop.
Seventh makes himself available on the forums and via email for answering questions.
He said this on vbsresources.com (might even have been on the pleb forum):
Quote[/b] ]You can expect VBS1 to be available in August in Nth America.
Desertfox
Aug 7 2004, 12:02
Gawd that's a slap in the face.
Too bad, really. Should have been earlier. Mid 2005 would've been long enough.
Well, as said before, at least it's good to know what we're up to eh ? lol http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif
Cheers,
Desertfox
Aug 7 2004, 12:04
lol !! http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
I just notice that I have registered in 2002 already for that Editing program which they released a bit later ( Can't remember the name )
I have two posts so far .. now am I a spammer or not ? lol
Cheers
which desert fox are you?
The one I know or the one I dont know?
They better give us a new expansion for ofp1 then. if not, then I fear that all Flashpoint fans will comite suicide soon...
InqWiper
Aug 7 2004, 13:20
Quote[/b] ]which desert fox are you?
The one I know or the one I dont know?
Warning level 1 is not good enough for you huh? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
I cant remember having seen anywhere that OFP2 was supposed to be released in 2004/2005. I have only seen that it was expected to be released at that time but not a set release date.
I dont really mind waiting until 2006 for OFP2. I think they could have released it early 2005 if they wanted to but as they said there is alot they want to improve in OFP2 that they may not have considdered from the start. I rather wait another year for a better OFP2. Most games that take a year or two to develop arent very good or they completely suck.
I dont understand how poeple can react like this:
BIS hates us!
BIS only cares about money!
BIS betrayed us!
People from BIS come to these forums and post to help people with stuff that they really dont need to and they are always nice. They might not have the time to read every thread in this forum, I dont even read half myself. They are not trying to squise money out of VBS1 because they have said several times that VBS1 is not a game and you should not buy it thinking its a game.
I think I will never quit playing OFP until OFP2 comes. I might take a break or two to play other games but I always seem to come back to OFP because there is no other game like it. OFP2 was never guaranteed to release in 2004/2005, as I understood it it was just an estimated release date that got pushed forward when they realised there was so much more they wanted to do.
If OFP2 is released in 2006 that only gives me more time to make sure I have a good computer when its released. BIS are nice but some people in the community are not. I think people who are upset post more than the people who arent so I think and hope that this thread does not give an accurate idea of how many people are upset and mad at BIS compared to the ones who arent.
OFP2 will probably come in 2006 so wipe your tears, play mods, make mods, make missions and save money for your new computer.
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
I don't need any expansions for this. If they're gonna make us wait another millenium I would like an original working config in cpp format. That's all I ask.
And considering DOOM3 is out which has incredible engine (seen it at work), I seriously doubt that there will be any point in releasing a game which is basically done today. Imagine how industry will progress till 2006. DOOM3 will be a old crap to say the least.
SpeedyDonkey
Aug 7 2004, 13:44
I find a couple of things a little strange.
if I remember correctly, there was a lot of talk about possibly releasing the first screenshots this summer. (Or was it the last summer) We also had several interviews during a relatively short time period. The Ofp2 site was designed and then redesigned, Codemasters launched their own forum, assigned a community liaison officer for ofp2 and even opened an irc channel for ofp2.
Something tells me that their intention was to release it way before 2006. It would be (of pure curiosity) fun to know what really happened.
Oh well, lets all hope for an even better product now. And enjoy Rollercoaster tycoon 3, whilst waiting for ofp2 http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
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Madus_Maximus
Aug 7 2004, 14:13
Well the fact is we won't know why it's been put back untill they tell us. All I know is we can trust BIS to make the best and most inotive game their skills can produce, and if they've suddenly had a new list of things they want to put in which will take another year, then go for it, in the end it'll just mean a much higher quality product for us to enjoy.
On another note I'm hoping they'll release the mod tools with the initial release on the game CD/CD's so people can dive into importing their ready waiting 3D Max models and so on into the new O2 and get them in game!
It's very simple, they took a look at where the industry was at and decided they would need to do extra work on OFP2. Like I said before, the fact that it's at least a Spring 2006 release date is a good thing because it means they are not just rushing OFP2 out the door to get it on storeshelves.
As for their decision to make OFP Xbox, and whether it was a bad idea or not, we won't know for sure until it's released. If it sells like hotcakes, then BIS makes money, and that's a good thing. They're in the business for money afterall, it's not just some hobby as some of you seem to think. On the otherhand, if OFP Xbox fails miserably, then I think PC users can acknowledge the right to say "I told you so."
Quote[/b] ]Seventh makes himself available on the forums and via email for answering questions.
He said this on vbsresources.com (might even have been on the pleb forum):
Quote[/b] ]
You can expect VBS1 to be available in August in Nth America.
Good to know, thanks for the heads up.
Well.... I suppose its better to wait maybe another 12 months longer than expected to get a game that we will still be playing in 2008 and beyond (just like were all still playing OFP after 3+ years), rather than them rushing it out and us all having to put up with a pile of poop like the fans of Soldner got.
OFP for the XBox comes out in a couple of months (thats straight from Marek btw), and I for one am looking forward to it. Personally I think it will be huge on the XBox in the way that Rainbow Six 3 was.
Another thing that the extra time will enable is for them to take into consideration and work on the ideas that us OFP vets have suggested. A game that is worked on for a long time will also mean less patches after its release.
Anyway, maybe BIS will bring out an addon like Resistance in the meantime? Heres hoping eh!
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Madus_Maximus
Aug 7 2004, 14:56
A few other games published by Codemasters are postponed too, like Wartime Command. Must be the "Ubi" thing. *hopes to God Ubi don't take over*
The impression I was getting from what I was reading was that there wasn't going to be a vast amount of differences visually in the engines of OFP and OFP2.
Looking at the competition, this would have been a bad thing.
Maybe they've decided to make OFP2 prettier?
visually is not the most important thing . id rather see them work on ai and the eventhandlers and such before they start with the graphics.
thats my opinion anyways.
Heatseeker
Aug 7 2004, 17:09
Its done when its done, there will be plenty of other games until then, by the time it comes out i will already be bored of Stalker and Ghost recon2 and its possible expantions and other games, its cool with me http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif .
No point cussing and swearing at BIS....your not going to speed them up.....so will those people show some maturity and wait patiently for what will possibly be the greatest game of 2006..... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
It's simple: i'm disappointed. The tam-tam @<hidden> E3 in 2003 (note: 448 Days ago).......what for? Perhaps it's a joke http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
colossus
Aug 7 2004, 18:09
This is the end
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I have waited so long for OFP2 and now they are taking that joy away http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
I know this will effect the quality of the game which is good ... but 2006 !!? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif
Thats more then a year from now, you shouldn't have told us about OFP2 so early.
It's a pain but life goes on (Hope I don't get old and die before the release http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif )
PS: Why isn't this released in one of the news forums? Hint hint (http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard311/ikonboard.cgi?act=SF;f=58)
PSS: Wrong dates on (late 2004/early 2005) flashpoint2.com (http://www.flashpoint2.com/) (I just want to be a bit evil http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/ghostface.gif )
Kakarotto
Aug 7 2004, 18:57
Giving a late 2004 / early 2005 release date was their first mistake. They should have known there was no way they could make that deadline, and should have changed it to 2006 once we entered 2004. They don't even have any screen shots yet, and I sincerely doubt it is because they are going to reviel it all at once just before it's ready. They are just simply not far enough in the development process for whatever reason, and that's okay, but you guys shouldn't be surprised when you see people getting upset. When people see a date, the majority will believe it, even though they should better. All you people saying the delay is okay because they get more time to make the game better aren't entirely correct, as they are still just plain making the game. I would bet it isn't more than 50% done yet, probably somewhere between 35% and 45%. Even though 2006 is a much more realistic release date I am still going to bet they won't meet that either, and the game will be released sometime in 2007. You can't expect a game of this magnitude to come out only a few years after the originals release, even though they give you a release date saying so and telling you that it is coming along just fine, yet there being no proof of it coming along at all.
And their second mistake was porting Operation Flashpoint to the X-Box. Not only does this slow down the development time of OFP2 considerably, but it's a waiste of money and recources. Compared to a game like "The Chronicles Of Riddick" OFPs graphics are terrible, and owners of the X-Box, the most graphically capable console system, are not interested in that no matter how great the gameplay. Even with all the updates they are giving to the game for the console it will still not appeal to the average console gamer. Another thing is the limitations of the X-Box. Although the X-Box can handle higher graphics than what OFP offers, it is still confined by stuff like low RAM. OFP won't be OFP without it's large levels and large battles, but consoles can't handle that. So they are going to have to cut back on some things, or find ways around them. And another issue is the X-Box controller, which even though it has the most buttons of any console controller, will never be able to give you the same level of control over your action menu, units, orders, and movement compared to a mouse and keyboard. And OFP needs this control to be OFP.
Well that's the end of my rant, thank you for reading it. If you wish to disguss the contents of my post I would be happy to do so.
If you guys were to read my post, I feel it would answer a lot of your questions and perhaps provoke new ones.
It just seemed like nobody read it http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif , so if you do read it, tell me if you agree, disagree, or think I'm a jackass . http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
time to change the name to OFP2 forever http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif
Operation wait for the point! http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
SteveVCB
Aug 7 2004, 20:37
2006 isn't too long. When the 2004 release date came out, I was thinking "Bloody hell, that's ages away! The community will have fizzled out by then!"
And here we all are. That's the great thing about niche communities, they may be smaller, but they have a lot more hardcore members.
seriously, everyone is crying about the release date, the original game took four years to develope and they haven't even started developing OFP 2 beyond concepts and stuff.
I'll happily wait two years.
Skewballzz
Aug 7 2004, 21:12
Most likely, I wont be playing games in 2006....
Just another prime example how BIS doesnt support this community. Didnt hear one thing about this from them on this forum. Seems like CM is more for the people.
My days of OFP are over.... I cant play a game made by such greedy, ungreatfull men...
Most likely, I wont be playing games in 2006....
Just another prime example how BIS doesnt support this community. Didnt hear one thing about this from them on this forum. Seems like CM is more for the people.
Ok we get your point stop posting already http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif
My days of OFP are over.... I cant play a game made by such greedy, ungreatfull men...
You've never played a game by EA? or Microsoft for that matter? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif
BIS is Busy. They have released VBS1, and are planning to release OFP-Xbox very soon too, thats 2 half-games! well VBS is more of a half game and the xbox version is more of a decimal factor and that...works out to a fraction of some sort!
Theres no way BIS could have got a lot done on OFP2 while working on those 2 projects so its clear why there isnt much info to give and CM extended their projection of the release date.
I'm not surprised that it's scheduled for 2006. In all honesty, I thought 2005 was far too optimistic and the games engine wouldn't have been that upgraded.
The kick in the teeth for most people I feel, is the way it was announced. Considering the rapport that BIS and the community have I would have thought a post by a BIS member of staff explaining that it's been delayed would have softened and appeased most people (yes, I know it's the weekend).
Then again, Codemasters the publishers haven't exactly been a fountain of information. OFP Xbox, due <s>Spring 2004</s>, <s>Summer 2004</s>, <s>Autumn 2004</s> Summer 2005 has hardly been mentioned in the press (and that includes E3). Then all of a sudden up pops the two new release dates.
A bit more communication is needed.
I just hope the OFP brand doesn't descend into Duke Nukem Forever farce.
Okay, so after having read what everyone's said, I'm much less annoyed about the later release date being given out...
But still, the only reason I was really annoyed is the fact that they haven't given us a reason why(if they have and I've missed it, please tell me I'm being a knob). Playing silly games with release dates is only going to wind people up, particularly those more highly-strung members of the community http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
Anyways, I'm fairly glad of the extra time to upgrade my PC, hopefully by that time I will have the money to do so and with OFP2 not being released until long after I finish at university... I have a higher chance of passing http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
Good luck to BIS, but I hope they release a statement sometime soon http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
Quote[/b] ]My days of OFP are over.... I cant play a game made by such greedy, ungreatfull men...
Oh, stop wadding up your panties over this. BIS has a lot of work on its hands with OFP X-Box, which will hopefully be out relatively soon. The more time they spend improving the OFP engine for OFP X-Box, the better the finished product will be when OFP2 is released.
Well well, what do we have here? Hum, lets see.
"I want a patch"
"I want an expansion"
Nice stuff. Need I remind that OFP for X-Box is in production? Theres no way you can possibly get a patch, and NOT an expansion.
Looks like you guys need a situation report. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
Here is my sitrep:
Initially OFP2 was going into develpment, but BIS decided to work on an OFP version for X-BOX. Initially it was a simple project, get the interface for a console and all that stuff, but then they decided to change the graphic engine and improve it. We have fine graphics on X-box thrust me. ;)
After, and i should repeat this word, after, OFP X-box, is complete, the OFP2 development will start. The delay was a..lets say, "crash caused crash"
What I mean with this, is if OFP X-box is delayed, OFP2 is delayed too. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif
And FYI OFP X-box will be released, this October.
Regards and dont cry, I will be on the reruit by Winter 2006 Lol! http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif
Quote[/b] ]My days of OFP are over.... I cant play a game made by such greedy, ungreatfull men...
http://shilohpostcards.com/p10577.jpg
I just got a pc that can handle Operation Flashpoint properly. I want to sit and enjoy the add ons for a while. Addon makers have lots more addons they can make. Look at some Janes military books for ideas.
I think If we can get high resolution textures the way we now have glass like water and improved night vision [thanks Kegety] then we can have lots more for this engine. I'm confident if we knock a few heads together [mine is way big though] we can imporove the engine way more.Also there is the explosion and sound modifications done. Plus skies. What I'm saying is the future is gonna be good to this engine if we can look beyond the new OFP2 release date.
We are just now beginning to crack the limits of the engine to make a Flashpoint 2 of our very own. Only thing is our community Flashpoint 2 has come over time. One new sky, water texture, sound mod, island, or new to use a weapon at a time. I'm happy!!! Come get happy!!! [Partrige Family] http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/unclesam.gif
Berghoff
Aug 8 2004, 07:17
Just another prime example how BIS doesnt support this community. Didnt hear one thing about this from them on this forum. Seems like CM is more for the people.
To me, BIS is one the few that helps the community. Suma even helps ppl with Editing in the O2 forum and they released many free addons for us in the upgrades. We should thank them for that.
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/blues.gif If OFP1 just had JIP support, it was another story.
InqWiper
Aug 8 2004, 14:45
Quote[/b] ]Nice stuff. Need I remind that OFP for X-Box is in production? Theres no way you can possibly get a patch, and NOT an expansion.
What is 1.96a and when was it released?
Release dates (http://www.codemasters.co.uk/releasedates/?next=true&pageno=06)
hmm...(my bet it`ll be put off again in the coming year):angry:
*waits for S.T.A.L.K.E.R and hopes it makes me forget OFP http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif
Mhm, that's strange, now they're shifting the X-Box Version also one year back, what's happening at BIS? Are they running out of working people? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
Mhm, that's strange, now they're shifting the X-Box Version also one year back, what's happening at BIS? Are they running out of working people? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
beer prices in Prague dropped 50%
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
funnyguy1
Aug 8 2004, 17:22
I`m going to Prague then:D
about opf2: my post in another thread
http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin....8;st=45 (http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard311/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=56;t=39028;st=45)
lol
If it's any consolation, the BIStudio (http://www.bistudio.com/games/of2.html) site still hasn't changed the estimated date from late 2004 and I would have thought that Codemasters would have told BIS about it eh?
Of course I doubt I am correct. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
funnyguy1
Aug 9 2004, 08:02
Since the "New release date worldwide..." in OFP2 GENERAL,
the OFP2 SUGGESTIONS seems dead:|
Heres what you do, make Doom 3's Engine into a "Doom3.pho", Throw it in Flash, take FarCry's AI and make that into a "AI.pbo" Soon as Half Life 2 comes out, take that "Physics.pbo" Toss em together, and lets make our own damn OFP 2! Yea! Rock!
Major Fubar
Aug 9 2004, 08:34
To everyone despairing over the release date, think about this: would you rather have a job done fast, or a job done right? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
To everyone despairing over the release date, think about this: would you rather have a job done fast, or a job done right? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
That the point, but I think most people here are not really angry about the release date itself, but because of the fact, that it was CM who published it, and not BI http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
Well we are still nowhere near the potential of OFP1 when it comes to gameplay so I don't mind about the delay. Especially as it will allow them to really go through their work and make sure it's working.
The last thing I would want is an excellent singleplayer but a multiplayer that could only be capable of Hexenkessel and that DM shit. So let them take their time and get towards a OFP2 that will please a lot more people.
Major Fubar
Aug 9 2004, 10:20
Attention everyone: there is something weird with this thread - the last few comments have all posted twice. If you post and get an error message, jump back and refresh - chances are your comment has already been posted. We are looking into it now. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
Quote[/b] ]Internal Server Error
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Please contact the server administrator, support@<hidden> and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.
More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
P.S. Don't bother emailing BIS, we have made relevant parties aware. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
WargamingNor
Aug 9 2004, 11:45
Spam?
EDIT: strange things are afoot at the BI forums http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/ghostface.gif
EDIT2: banana, chocolate, spam... yummi...lol I'll stop now
EDIT3: to keep it on-topic; will we get the official word from you BIS guys on the delays (OFP2 and CWC Xbox) anytime soon? Perhaps you should update the gameinfos on the BIS site, so no more peeps get confused over the variety of dates for releases?
Moderators can't spam http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif I needed to post a bunch of replies to check if I'd fixed the errors by creating a new thread and merging it in, which has worked.
So the discussion can continue http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
SpeedyDonkey
Aug 9 2004, 15:49
I don't know if any one cares but I got two emails from Codemasters. I asked if they had any info on the release dates etc. Basic answers without too much content.. :o)
Quote[/b] ]"The games have not been postponed it is just the developers are
concentrating their efforts on the game rather than updating the website,
more information will be available soon."
-Kind Regards Paul
Quote[/b] ]Unfortunately release dates are very inaccurate until the game nears
completion. As Operation Flashpoint 2 is still some way from completion,
even if we specify a release date now, there is no guarantee that the game
will be released in that time frame. Any dates specified now are merely an
indicator.
Sorry - we are as frustrated as you are.
-Kind Regards Rob
What do you mean without much content. They're telling you everything they can, so we'll wait and see if there is more information soon. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
SpeedyDonkey
Aug 9 2004, 15:59
Quote[/b] ]What do you mean without much content
I was very much expecting an alpha version of op2 in my inbox http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif
Now, you see, I dont mind the delay if they posted some kind of PROGRESS instead of keeping it quiet for so long. They should keep us on our toes, but not off the ground! I mean, cmon, I dont expect it to be a quick BAM and release a quick copy of ofp2 and have it filled with everything we all dont want. What project is codemasters focusing on? I mean, with games like "Soldier" if they get any laggyer, Im going to have to retire from anything made my codemasters. Rushing production is wrong yes, look at Half Life 2, its been pushed back a YEAR because of a "Hacker". OFP2 should make the engine very flexible so for many years after the games release, breakthroughs like reflective water in ofp1 (Ty Kegety http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif ). Instead of just wishing for the possible, I just want an update on the games progress instead of 1 peice of news just regarding what the're getting done over there every 4-5 MONTHS. If they finished a wheel on a jeep, or even just modeled it, it'd be alot nicer than not knowing what they're doing over there
Postduifje
Aug 10 2004, 01:10
ugh, not the best news to return with after your summer holiday, but it was expected. 2004, 2006 or 2010, BIS I'll be waiting right here for you! http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
Powerslide
Aug 10 2004, 05:07
Look to get it for Christmas 2006 fellas, maybe spring 2007. If they are saying 2006 even now then for certain it will be even longer.
Edit: eh bn880, nice NDP link there (weak)
cain2001
Aug 10 2004, 08:11
Look to get it for Christmas 2006 fellas, maybe spring 2007. If they are saying 2006 even now then for certain it will be even longer.
Edit: eh bn880, nice NDP link there (weak)
Well most guys in the BIS time is ready with their work for Ofp Xbox, I bet they are sitting atm and making models, creating the new ofp2engine. I Cant see 15 guys sitting and working with Xbox right now http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif Latest for OFP is Summer 2006, i know BIS will stick to the plan so i cant see where u getting 2007 from http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
So do we really even have an statement that it will be delayed more than just a short 'Coming Spring 2006' on a codemasters site.
It would be nice if BIS gave us some info on the current status. If they are going to delay the game by 1-1.5 years at least they should tell us that and also a small explanation why would be appropriate.
This silent tactic BIS has adapted isn't nice to the community but perhaps the game will be so different(arcade) that they would need a new community anyway.
kavoven
Aug 10 2004, 12:11
This silent tactic BIS has adapted isn't nice to the community but perhaps the game will be so different(arcade) that they would need a new community anyway.
That would be pretty bad http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
Madus_Maximus
Aug 10 2004, 12:32
Well if Ubi take over that's what we'll get, a Battlefield type game! Assuming they get their dirty mitts on it. *cocks shotgun and aims at Ubi* "Get off my land!"
Quote[/b] ]Well if Ubi take over that's what we'll get, a Battlefield type game! Assuming they get their dirty mitts on it. *cocks shotgun and aims at Ubi* "Get off my land!"
Ubi is buying Codemasters, not BIS.
guerilla [MCY]
Aug 10 2004, 16:34
i think its about time to release OFP1 for free to get more ppl into it and propably to catch some CS-guys, which have to pay now for CS cause of that new Steam-Software. It would be a good Advertising for Flashpoint2 itself. As there is nothing really new for it, it will die a slow death soon.
Marss911
Aug 10 2004, 16:40
guerilla @<hidden> Aug. 10 2004,18:34)]it will die a slow death soon.
Yeah thats what I'm thinking to, ofcorse I'm hoping something else will happen! Nobody want to see it die...
HKFlash
Aug 10 2004, 18:06
Quote[/b] ]Codemasters delays games amid Ubisoft takeover rumors
UK publisher/developer pushes back Wartime Command, Operation Flashpoint 2 as UK trades report it may be bought out by the French game giant.
Over the weekend, British publisher and developer Codemasters pushed back several of its high-profile military games. Operation Flashpoint 2, the sequel to the popular Bohemia Interactive-developed shooter, has been delayed until "spring 2006," according to the game's official Web site. Further, Codemasters' release calendar now lists the release date for the Xbox version of the original Operation Flashpoint as summer 2005 (instead of fall 2004, as previously listed).
Codemasters has also delayed Wartime Command: Battle for Europe 1939-1945, its WWII real-time strategy game. Developed by Russian studio IC, the game had been set for a summer 2004 release. However, as of late last week, the game's home page was changed to reflect a new summer 2005 ship date.
Ironically, the delays come as Codemasters is reportedly on the verge of being bought out. British game-industry magazine MCV is reporting that Ubisoft is in "an advanced stage in negotiations" to purchase the Colin McRae publisher. The French publishing giant had been widely reported to be considering acquiring another leading UK game company, Eidos. However, Ubisoft's shares fell 5.2 percent on Monday due to worries that Eidos' estimated $300 million price tag would severely strain its finances.
Source. www.gamespot.com
Dwarden
Aug 10 2004, 19:44
so ...
regarding Codemaster to be sold to UBI :
as someone who remember (nearly directly) UBI take-over BlueByte, it was leading German development studio with excelent games and own publishing capacity ...
result, most of good project was canceled , some were "finished" in awfull quality (in mind to original project concepts) and whole "series" of games went to hell ...
UBI is maybe successfull, but i don't like way they doing it...
i'm sure there are ways which will be more successfull with different aproach ...
also i dont like how UBI and EA are taking over, killing great projects (multiple times) ... but as i know $ does matter ...
---
dates:
if there is real movement with date for FlashPoint XBOX edition, than i really wonder if it is going to be ever released for old XBOX (actual one). In fall 2004 and year 2005 there will be (more likely) released new version of XBOX including very powerfull hardware (it will be not anymore laughly console). In total, summer 2005 for XBOX1 sounds strange.
Release date 2006 for FlashPoint 2 ... it's long, over 1 year delay after estimade release ...
plus with today's politic shift date 2-5 times backward (D3, HL2,Stalker and others http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif...
fall 2006 is more likely to happen (bigger xmass sales http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
when i see these delays i hope for magic wonder to happen and thats updated OFPR engine to apear (ie. in style of another la "Resistance" bonuspack) which take OFPR engine to it's limits (abusing all what DX8 can offer and so on). Including stability improvements, JIP and so on. Thus small coding (or maybe it's already done) session, some mission scripting for excelent campaign and BIS can get another pack of $ to develop quality OFP2 http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif.
NetWalker
Aug 10 2004, 20:16
So do we really even have an statement that it will be delayed more than just a short 'Coming Spring 2006' on a codemasters site.
It would be nice if BIS gave us some info on the current status. If they are going to delay the game by 1-1.5 years at least they should tell us that and also a small explanation why would be appropriate.
This silent tactic BIS has adapted isn't nice to the community but perhaps the game will be so different(arcade) that they would need a new community anyway.
Agreed !!
They don´t care about us (the comunity) anymore. That´s a real shame. I´m very disapointed http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/mad_o.gif
I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHY NOBODY FROM BIS HAS SAID A SINGLE WORD ABOUT THIS? WHAT ARE YOUR PROBLEMS GUYS? PLEASE RELEASE ANY OFFICIAL INFORMATION ABOUT OFP 2 FOR US !
colossus
Aug 10 2004, 22:10
We can all agree on that is confusion here, BIS website says:
Quote[/b] ]Expected release of Operation Flashpoint 2 is late 2004
Codemasters webpage says:
Quote[/b] ]Comming Spring 2006
So tell us Bohemia Interactive (Suma, Placebo, doda, OFP Developers, SCREAM, Maruk, master or medvidek):
What is the real release date and why hasn't this news been released by Bohemia Interactive?
There is no press release on Codemasters website on this new release date.
EDIT: Has this anything to do with the selling of Codemasters?
Lin_Chino
Aug 10 2004, 22:19
Amén ˇ ˇ http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/blues.gif
spm1138
Aug 10 2004, 22:39
Yes... because they are almost certainly going to give out definitive information concerning a buyout that is still being negotiated on a gaming forum.
KimTuomi
Aug 11 2004, 11:49
"Great" news.....
http://www.saunalahti.fi/sakarit/kerro-lisaa/stana.jpg
Friedchiken
Aug 11 2004, 16:14
I'm sure that a majority of the community would appreciate it if BIS could even say "when it's done" in regard to the codemasters date.
"Great" news.....
img]http://www.saunalahti.fi/sakarit/kerro-lisaa/stana.jpg[/img]
Löl http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
I think time will go fast as my mandatory military service is scheduled next year but I wonder if I care to play military games after that. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif
lilwillie
Aug 11 2004, 19:09
Well, for me this is fine. I've yet to buy a PC game that has keep my interest as much as OFP has. Most keep me happy for a month or two, then I'm back to OFP jamming mags and pissing and moaning trying to find that last elusive Russian troop that seems to keep most missions from ending.
I've been out of the loop here for years, but still playing OFP religously.
With a PC that is older than dirt and slower than a turtle this gives me plenty of time to save up for a killer system.
Nice to say hi again, now it's back to banging my head against a wall downloading addons with 56K since that's all I can get out in the middle of the woods.
Maybe by 06 I'll have the house built and have DSL.......ya, and hell will freeze over.
kavoven
Aug 11 2004, 19:39
Many people here are saying, that they won't be able to play anymore in 2006. That's perhaps true, I won't have much time either, but out of the view of BIS and CM, it's no problem, because you've got the same number of people comming new into the community in 2006 or even later http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif
Arg, thinking about that makes me said... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
I still have concerns...especially hearing how much Xbox version is delayed.Do you think Xbox will be that great in another year? Cmon its a downgraded PC.I only know a few people with an Xbox.And with PS3 coming and who knows what else?
I am not a software company like Bis,but I wouldn't spend much time on a Xbox version.I just am worried and want Bis to stay sucessful.
I am trying to brainstorm on how to keep OFP alive.And I love the idea that they are going all out on OFP2 obviously from the time they are spending.
Someone had a good idea about giving out OFP for free,now that may bring more people into the community but there is no money in that.
I am thinking along the lines like...give out OFP.Sell an expansion that has a new patch and new scenario (WW2 Pacific !!) nah just kidding,something like whats going on overseas right now would sell.
And with the patch have: JIP, (Multiple Firing Points !!),but things like walking on moving vehicles and maybe some of the collision stuff better.
Shoot for a 6 month - 1 year date and please keep us informed some ,lol
My 2 cents
colossus
Aug 12 2004, 06:00
I personaly think that making OFP for Xbox was a mistake.
OFP is meant to be on the computer, not on arcade.
Second, I'm ecually getting tierd of OFP http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif and i really don't know why.
Maybe it is becouse that times changes and new and http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif <s>better</s> games is comming to take it's place.
(I shouldn't have said that http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif )
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