Just noticed this..

[quicKsanD]

Just check www.flashpoint2004.com , looks like BIS registered this domain..When they made OFP1 the official page was www.flashpoint1985.com the year of the campaign . Sure nothing is certain right now,but this is another proof that flashpoint will be located in the present isn`t it?

[Migebuff]

There are also some screenshots.....ofp2 screens?
click me (http://www.flashpoint2004.com/FP2004images/)

edit:
the domain name is registered to someone in australia....seems like these are images from IL.

[quicKsanD]

OMG you are right..This is getting wierder and wierder..Just watch this:
http://www.flashpoint2004.com/FP2004images/Figures6.jpg
http://www.flashpoint2004.com/FP2004images/trailer_1.jpg
http://www.flashpoint2004.com/FP2004images/imagethumb_4a.jpg
http://www.flashpoint2004.com/FP2004images/logoheader_1.jpg
http://www.flashpoint2004.com/FP2004images/imagethumb_10.jpg
http://www.flashpoint2004.com/FP2004images/imagethumb_2.jpg
http://www.flashpoint2004.com/FP2004images/imagethumb_3.jpg
http://www.flashpoint2004.com/FP2004images/imagethumb_8.jpg
http://www.flashpoint2004.com/FP2004images/imagethumb_9.jpg

[Tamme]

Being an OFP gamer is damn exciting because of all these mysteries. But this is really getting weird.

[ArchangelSKT]

OHOH where are those screens from ??

I`m getting hungry http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif

[void_false]

Holy crap!!! OFP2 screnies!!! i'm going mad!!!! http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/ghostface.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wow_o.gif

[quicKsanD]

Some side notes:

The pics are incredible in quality and they date from Octomber 2003.So they are making some wonderfull progress here..
Look at the third picture..It says Flashpoint and down there are 2 soldiers as in Flashpoint 2.
And we can see winter&jungle eviroment..

[Migebuff]

Nah, I think they are Independence Lost screenshots. IL is made in australia, and flashpoint2004.com is registered to someone in australia.

[FW200]

Actually.. I discussed this with some of the guys over at #ofpec.. and I noticed a couple of things:
-Almost all units are special ops
-New A10 (notice the rounder engines)
-Official Jungle Island
-Official Winter Island
-Open UAZ with mounted MG (Dshk?)
-New soldiers
-Littlebird picture from the flashpoint2 site
-On one banner you can see the BIS logo together with the VBS1 logo...

I think that this is the rumoured expansion ("1.5") with a new campaign involving Spec Ops (just look at the header)..

Anyway.. this is just speculation but this what I think.

[void_false]

all these things are very strange. BIS is playing with us as with dolls. i feel like i'm in detective or triller movie http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/ghostface.gif

[SHWiiNG]

its those scrued up pics on the ofp 2 site but done up to so the quality is better welllllll thats what i think

[quicKsanD]

OK after I recovered from the euphoria of my discovery I would like to add that the ball is in BIS court  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif . I just hope this isn`t a lost project I dug up.I`dd accept anything but that: OF2;IL;a new expansion.Hell judging by the quallity of the pics if they add JIP I`ll buy it as a standalone game in a heart beat and I am sure every other OF fan would do it also..

I am just worried that if the pics are from September 2003 and they had a trailer ready then,why haven`t we seen anything from them? BIS sure has a way to drive their fans crazy..

[ArchangelSKT]

Hm I didn`t know there was a rumour goign around for another expansion ?

Though again I haven`t visited the board that often lately .
I`m not sure what to believe , anyway that something new and good os coming our way is well...obvious http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

[vektorboson]

[paranoia mode]
Remember the time before Resistance? BIS made Beta-Patches (1.55 if I remember correctly) and soon Resistance was announced...
Now, BIS is still making patches for OFP 1 (the last ones were all Beta...)
[/paranoia mode]

I don't know why, but those screens look like OFP-1 screens with detailed units. But we can't really tell, since they are too small to see any new features of the new engine (?)

At least we'll get a trailer soon...

[RalphWiggum]

.
http://www.flashpoint2004.com/FP2004images/imagethumb_10.jpg

http://www.flashpoint2004.com/FP2004i....te (http://www.flashpoint2004.com/FP2004images/imagethumb_2.jpg)

both images were used in flashpoint2.com 's ad.

[Gollum1]

Strange indeed! http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/ghostface.gif And exciting. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wow_o.gif

Can anyone ID that cockpit?

[Harnu]

I think it's a UH-60. First thing that popped into my head when I saw the cockpit.

[Llauma]

Strange indeed! http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/ghostface.gif  And exciting. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wow_o.gif

Can anyone ID that cockpit?
http://chinook-helicopter.com/standards/images/cockpit_CH-47D.jpg

http://www.flashpoint2004.com/FP2004images/imagethumb_3a.jpg

It kind of looks like a chinook except that the chinook has the rounded boards

[Hellfish6]

Good find, guys. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[Llauma]

damn it seems like they removed the site.. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif

[Korax]

damn it seems like they removed the site.. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
Ditto  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
Anyone still have the screens so I can see?  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif

[Friedchiken]

yes... seems like something stealthy is going on...

Discover and *save* all the clues before your head explodes from speculating too much! Sounds so much a certain Sci Fi channel TV show! http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

[FragMASTER]

I smell a conspiracy! http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

[Migebuff]

Quote[/b] ]Anyone still have the screens so I can see?
Yepp....
http://www.tacticalblunder.com/~uploads/migebuff/imagethumb_10.jpg
http://www.tacticalblunder.com/~uploads/migebuff/imagethumb_2.jpg
http://www.tacticalblunder.com/~uploads/migebuff/imagethumb_3.jpg
http://www.tacticalblunder.com/~uploads/migebuff/imagethumb_4.jpg
http://www.tacticalblunder.com/~uploads/migebuff/imagethumb_8.jpg
http://www.tacticalblunder.com/~uploads/migebuff/imagethumb_9.jpg
http://www.tacticalblunder.com/~uploads/migebuff/logoheader_1.jpg
http://www.tacticalblunder.com/~uploads/migebuff/trailer_1.jpg
http://www.tacticalblunder.com/~uploads/migebuff/Figures6.jpg

[ArchangelSKT]

Hm maybe they got scared we were on to something http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif

From those screens it is slightly dificult for me to see any graphical improvements...surely only cause they are small .
The only one I see it on is the one of the cockpit and the one with the close-up of the scoped assault-rifle .

[Llauma]

http://hem.bredband.net/jontuo/screens/a10.jpg
I edited the pic so the A10 is more visible. It sure looks alot better than the old octagon engine A10

[ale2999]

EXCELLENT FIND. I shake my fist at u! although u got no life lol do u spend ur life going through anything that could be bis? well it is good u are doing it, cuz I dont want too http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif I dont know but opf2 better have nuts gfx, cuz it will be vs games like soldner.....

[Llauma]

EXCELLENT FIND. I shake my fist at u! although u got no life lol do u spend ur life going through anything that could be bis? well it is good u are doing it, cuz I dont want too http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif I dont know but opf2 better have nuts gfx, cuz it will be vs games like soldner.....
I don't think Söldner will survive until OFP2 arrives.

[Evishion]

ok since I heard of that OFP2 was gonna be made I was allmoust pissing myself.. OK, NOW AFTER I SAW THESE OFP2 PIC I REALLY PISSED ON ME!!!!!!!

OMGGGGGGGGGGGG I LOOOOOVE BIS AND I CANT WAIT FOR OFP2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ArchangelSKT]

EXCELLENT FIND. I shake my fist at u! although u got no life lol do u spend ur life going through anything that could be bis? well it is good u are doing it, cuz I dont want too http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif I dont know but opf2 better have nuts gfx, cuz it will be vs games like soldner.....
I don't think Söldner will survive until OFP2 arrives.
Ah ok now it was more clear , yes that does look better .
Amd even so considering we don`t know at which stage it is taken and also guessing OPF2 will be out in 2005 then well it will be better even .

About Soeldner I think it will be a good game , it will ease the wait for OPF2 .

[jankyballs]

WERE DID YOU GET PICSS!!!!!!!! PLEASE GIVE ME SITE

[Hellfish6]

The site was taken down. If you'd bothered to read the thread, you'd know that. You'd also know where the site is. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif

[thirtyg]

Wow, these units all look very very impressive, especially the bodies and anims.

Hopefully this is something we will get out hands on soon.

[Cozza]

Well there deffenly from the OFp 1.

Anims for the UAZ are the standerd Jeep gunner anims.
Also in that pic the building in the background is from VBS

The rest is just making me Horny. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif I've never seen so detailed faces in Flashpoint. We just need Maruk or Suma in this topic to say what the Fuck is going on. I hate when people play with my mind. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif

[RalphWiggum]

The rest is just making me Horny.  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif
down boy! down! http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

[theavonlady]

Can anyone ID that cockpit?
Besides the cockpit, looks like it's winter outside.

[ozanzac]

Hey, if it was possible to do so, did anyone download the 17 meg MPEG?

[Cozza]

hey yeah. Anyone know why the site is down http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif

[Schoeler]

Probably because it wasn't supposed to be found.

It looks as if BIS has been smoothing out the details of their models quite a bit. Much more detailed faces, snoother body models, not as blocky.

Also, I see a whole range of nicely detailed trees and vegetation in the backgrounds.

[quicKsanD]

Quote[/b] ]EXCELLENT FIND. I shake my fist at u! although u got no life lol do u spend ur life going through anything that could be bis? well it is good u are doing it, cuz I dont want too I dont know but opf2 better have nuts gfx, cuz it will be vs games like soldner.....

Hey I do have a life  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif  It just poped into my mind that if we had "flashpoint1985" and flashpoint was set in the present it might worth the search to see if www.flashpoint2004.com exists..

Second Soldner sucks.It will only have third person view for tanks and air units(no cockpit) and a bullet in the head won`t kill you.Plus judging by those pics I think that whatever Flashpoint2004 is,it can stand up easily to Soldner..

[RalphWiggum]

well, flashpoint2005.com is not working right now http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif

[Schoeler]

Neither does Flashpoint1977! http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif

I was so looking forward to jumpsuit and leisure suit clad battalions battling it out on a rotating floor lit dance platform to the tune of Y.M.C.A. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif

[ArchangelSKT]

Quote[/b] ]EXCELLENT FIND. I shake my fist at u! although u got no life lol do u spend ur life going through anything that could be bis? well it is good u are doing it, cuz I dont want too  I dont know but opf2 better have nuts gfx, cuz it will be vs games like soldner.....

Hey I do have a life  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif  It just poped into my mind that if we had "flashpoint1985" and flashpoint was set in the present it might worth the search to see if www.flashpoint2004.com exists..

Second Soldner sucks.It will only have third person view for tanks and air units(no cockpit) and a bullet in the head won`t kill you.Plus judging by those pics I think that whatever Flashpoint2004 is,it can stand up easily to Soldner..
OT  ( sorry ) but I think the damage will depend on server setting , as in realism (-----) Arcade , at least it is something .
And well , I can`t really see OPF2 having any competition besides...huh..eh OPF1 http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif , not as in expected level of realism .

[Llauma]

Hey, if it was possible to do so, did anyone download the 17 meg MPEG?
no, it wasn't possible..

I think that they have done alot of changes since uploading those pics october 18th 2003. At that time we still thought that OFP2 was going to be in the 70's. It wouldn't surprise me if nothing you see will be in the final release.
But I sure hope that they'll keep the crazy Ivan's http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

[Llauma]

Second Soldner sucks.It will only have third person view for tanks and air units(no cockpit) and a bullet in the head won`t kill you.Plus judging by those pics I think that whatever Flashpoint2004 is,it can stand up easily to Soldner..
I think even that flashpoint1985 with addons can stand up against Söldner.

[Acecombat]

Wow indeed thos faces are very nice but isnt that Winter Nogojev there? And the marine look suspiciously like Sucheys editted only http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif

BIS please answer i am bubbling with speculations here http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif all crazier then the other ... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/ghostface.gif

[DM]

I think that they have done alot of changes since uploading those pics october 18th 2003. At that time we still thought that OFP2 was going to be in the 70's. It wouldn't surprise me if nothing you see will be in the final release.
Bear in mind that the American units in the picture with the big ? are up to date (right up to date) Deltas and some other soldier (may be a Ranger, may not)

[ALDEGA]

Looks like a UH-60 cockpit, no?

[Acecombat]

Maybe BIS have planned a surprise ....

Maybe they have updated some addons and then made a few themselves and also done a full blown campaign for it too , so they could probably test some OFP2 code or something in it ? If its another expansion ? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif

[txalin]

looooooooooool, they copy the bas units...., żżmaybe bas is working with bis?? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

[SteveVCB]

So, that thing in PC Gamer (UK) about "Operation Flashpoint 1.5" was true! Well, this should tide us all over until OFP2!

EDIT: Holy heck, that rhymes!

[Jmaster33]

I'd like to get my hands on that 17mb trailer.

[freddern]

Me too. Ooh BIS tortures us. BUT not in a bad way. This is not crisism. I love you.... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif  BIS you've made me addicted. Can't wait for something new. Your silence destroyes me.... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif . Just kidding. I'm not that crazy. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[Acecombat]

Theres nothing on BIS or Flashpoint2 website yet? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif

Whats with the stupid people making commenst on ofp.info that BAS have sold out ? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif

[Lee_H._Oswald]

maybe bas is working with bis??
I am thinking the same, after the ofp2 website has been updated last time.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!

MfG Lee O_o

[jelly belly]

Ok, this is some reall spooky shit. Most OFP sites know about it now, so theres alot of speculation floating around.
Now that the sites down too im guessing you just stumbled on BIS's little secret.

[Acecombat]

maybe bas is working with bis??
I am thinking the same, after the ofp2 website has been updated last time.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!

MfG Lee O_o
So why is deadmeat acting all that innocent http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif

Come on any BAS member here please spill the beans.

[quicKsanD]

Crossed my mind also.A simple answer from BAS would avoid this useless speculation that has sparked and they would also avoid the mess Caucasus Crisis entered in..

Personally I think it would be nonesense to blame them if they are co-operating with BIS.They are devoted,talented addon makers who helped to community more then most of us so if BIS observed their talents and recruited them I see nothing wrong in that..

All I wish is a simplle YES Or No answer to this question: Is BAS working together with BIS?

[Acecombat]

Yep same here , good luck to them if theyve decided to work overtime http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

Personally i dont think BAS might be working on stuff they might have given there stuff to BIS for editting and then putting it inside OFP ...that seems the only logical explanation to me atm.

[txalin]

Quote[/b] ]All I wish is a simplle YES Or No answer to this question: Is BAS working together with BIS?

mmmm, if bas is working with bis (wich i think its possible, due to the very high quality of all bas addons) y think bis also must talk with dkm mod, coc, fdf, etc... Now i remember that in one interview from ofp.info with marek spanek he said that its impressive how the mods have improve the ofp quality to other level, so its not strange of bis work together woth some mods.

And now, deadmeat, what do you have to say now?? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[Lee_H._Oswald]

And now, deadmeat, what do you have to say now??  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
If it´s true, he has NOTHING to say to us.

If it´s really true, I think it´s the best "wedding" that could happen to OFP!

MfG Lee http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

[DM]

And now, deadmeat, what do you have to say now??  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
Nothing much really...

Looks like BIS will get some more of my hard earned ŁŁŁ http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

[Acecombat]

"wedding" ?

This is more like a girlfriend boyfriend thingy since nothings too certain unless BIS make a official statement ..... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[jelly belly]

No comments? I smell a rat here! If u had nothing to hide youd say something.

[Cpt. Bazikian[5thSFG]]

hmmmmmmmmm, I smell something fishy and it isn't my tackle box http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif

[d034rk]

I think I got it. It looks a lot like this Sea Knight cockpit (especially the second one):

http://gra.midco.net/mlgould/Helicopters/CH-46D%20Sea%20Knight.jpghttp://ofp.gamezone.cz/news/pics2/imagethumb_3.jpg http://gra.midco.net/mlgould/Helicopters/CH-46E%20Sea%20Knight%20RH.jpg

almost identical...  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

[jelly belly]

good one. U hit that nail straight on the head

[Acecombat]

Nice work now someone tag that island i think its Winter Nogojev?

And in the jungles isnt that the jungle which we saw on IL2 screens? Looks like Tonal too in on of the pics http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wow_o.gif

[jelly belly]

i have my own theory, but i aint sayin anything http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/blues.gif

[d034rk]

Hmmmm....

http://www.pcgames.de/screenshots/medium/ACF25FF.jpg

[Lee_H._Oswald]

Ok, lets put some oil into the fire:

What I think:

First ofp2 site shows nam style stuff.

Nam, ok, but there are many games released with that story. Not very good at all.

So, if BIS has decided to "update" their ofp2 story, nothing is closer than modern conflicts like afghanistan and iraq.

---

Then very few infos came from BAS. They told us, they are updating theis soldiers, littlebirds and so on. But nothing was released and their site was also not updated anymore.

-

Then the ofp2 site is updated and you can see modern soldiers and littlebirds. <- http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif

And now flashpoint2004 has been found and what do we see?

If you look close, you can say: "Highly updated BAS Stuff, ported to the "OFP2 Engine".

---

But makes this all sence?

Yes&#33; As a game developer, if you change your game story, it means that a lot of stuff is made for "nothing".

A "wedding" with BAS could mean to fill the empty space.

---

Just my 2 cents(euro) to all the rumours.

MfG Lee http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

[jelly belly]

lol @<hidden> lee, u really have a theory there, and it sounds pretty viasable too.

[Acecombat]

Yes but this raises anew question why should we pay for free stuff which BAS made (not that i mind but some pricks will say it) http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif

It makes sense Lee but they said 3 theaters they would have worked on all that stuff they just cant swicth this big ? This might shift their deadlines real back. Plus modern stuff is already made for OFP1 its the engine limitations that were keeping them back , this isnt looking good if BIS have played the lets post addons to OFP2 with new engine and call it OFP2 http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif

NOTE: Thats pure speculation and not flaming BIS or anything since we dont know the real deal.

[HOBOMAN]

Bas was proally hired to work for BIS or the website is fake

[Acecombat]

And now, deadmeat, what do you have to say now??  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
Nothing much really...

Looks like BIS will get some more of my hard earned ŁŁŁ  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
Whats this suppose to mean http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/ghostface.gif

A YES ?

[freddern]

i these teories where true then wouldn&#39;t that conclude in tons of copyrights, law and bla bla bla......?

[Peanut]

okay I tried ftp.flashpoint2004.com which still works.
All you find there are .pdf-files which belong to the server provider I think, so nothing really fancy http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
----

To the propable BAS-BIS joint. Even if they are working together, there would be contracts. Even if they want to say something about this issue they can&#39;t.
----

The pics that were on the website look really great. Can&#39;t wait to play with these units.

[Lee_H._Oswald]

It makes sense Lee but they said 3 theaters they would have worked on all that stuff they just cant swicth this big ? This might shift their deadlines real back. Plus modern stuff is already made for OFP1 its the engine limitations that were keeping them back , this isnt looking good if BIS have played the lets post addons to OFP2 with new engine and call it OFP2  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif
I would say it pushes the deadline forward.

Taking all the released/non released BAS stuff, update it to the ofp2 engine, plus the things BIS made allready for ofp2, some tweaks here and there and you have a extremly good base for a modern game.

Look at the BAS blackhawk.

Ok, it has no second gunner position(game limitation), but it´s the best blackhawk ever seen in any computer game.

Same with other stuff.

Many times we have heard that ofp1 addons "will" work in ofp2, so it shoul be "easy" to port the bas stuff into ofp2.

MfG Lee http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[freddern]

And now, deadmeat, what do you have to say now??  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
Nothing much really...

Looks like BIS will get some more of my hard earned ŁŁŁ  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
Whats this suppose to mean   http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/ghostface.gif

A YES ?
He knows something. If he didn&#39;t know anything he would have said something else...
I know it... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

[jelly belly]

its all falling into place

[d034rk]

It looks somewhat like a mash of Independence Lost, BAS addons, VBS and OFP1. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif

[jelly belly]

i,d buy that...maybe...probably. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif

[Acecombat]

It makes sense Lee but they said 3 theaters they would have worked on all that stuff they just cant swicth this big ? This might shift their deadlines real back. Plus modern stuff is already made for OFP1 its the engine limitations that were keeping them back , this isnt looking good if BIS have played the lets post addons to OFP2 with new engine and call it OFP2  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif
I would say it pushes the deadline forward.

Taking all the released/non released BAS stuff, update it to the ofp2 engine, plus the things BIS made allready for ofp2, some tweaks here and there and you have a extremly good base for a modern game.

Look at the BAS blackhawk.

Ok, it has no second gunner position(game limitation), but it´s the best blackhawk ever seen in any computer game.

Same with other stuff.

Many times we have heard that ofp1 addons "will" work in ofp2, so it shoul be "easy" to port the bas stuff into ofp2.

MfG Lee http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
Yes i agree but i was talking in terms of engine fine tuning if a 70s game was made there would have been things distinct for it now that theyve made a modern scenario (which is clever IMO no game is doing this atm so OFP might be a hit among the CS/GR crowd too ouch http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif ) they would change some stuff for it.

I wonder if BAS gave the utlimate sacrifice or giving up everything they made for OFP2 if thats really OFP2 and not another expansion....

So is only BAS stuff used or others too like RHS and so on?

[jelly belly]

i swear, this goes deeper than OFP2

[quicKsanD]

After almost 2 years of stalemate BIS is ready to shock the world again.Get ready to be thrown in the most immersive and realistic game ever yet.Playing as a spec op you will get the chance to fight terrorism in a campaign that will span from the hot jungles of [..] to the freezing ices of [..].This latest BIS release also adresses the most major multiplayer issue that OF ever had.That`s right soldier,get ready for JIP&#33;

I know I`m not helping but that`s what poped into my mind, it`s gonna be OF 1.5,which satisfies me more then enough because of JIP.Add the ability to walk on moving objects and it will al be perfect..

BTW I couldn`t figure out what soldiers are this?

http://www.tacticalblunder.com/~uploads/migebuff/imagethumb_4.jpg

[Acecombat]

These guys seem to have that old OFP1 spetznatz texture on them but more shiny http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif

[HOBOMAN]

Ok maybe BAS was just a fake addons studio all along and is really just the devolpers at BIS.

[jelly belly]

lol, nice theory, would explain the excellent scripting etc.

[d034rk]

BTW I couldn`t figure out what soldiers are this?
No doubt, Russians in Hawaii. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[Acecombat]

Doesnt that guy with grey hair look like a short stout back of Col Blake from OFP ? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

[HOBOMAN]

and BAS has done nothing for a while. Some of their old CH47s, ah1&#39;s and huey&#39;s and very similiar the vsb and opf2 ones.

[Acecombat]

Yeah wonder who that good MOD was who took BIS&#39;s model for AH-1&#39;s? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wow_o.gif

[MSpencer]

It seems like only the people with less than 50 posts come up with these ideas that BAS is a team of aliens sent to wreak havoc upon the earth. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif

[jelly belly]

hmm

[jelly belly]

hmm
1 word
Paranoid

[HOBOMAN]

It seems like only the people with less than 50 posts come up with these ideas that BAS is a team of aliens sent to wreak havoc upon the earth. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif
bas is cool and doing good but they might have connections with BIS http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/blues.gif

[Peanut]

http://www.tacticalblunder.com/~uploads/migebuff/imagethumb_4.jpg
Seeing the palm-trees in the background my guess would be South-american rebel troops, or something like that.

[jelly belly]

look to well armed and organised
although that jeep looks like a technical with DShk

[quicKsanD]

I don`t like the direction of this thread.Please stop spamming. We,the blinded public are finally on to something we wouldn`t want this thread closed by the moderators.
Conspiracy theories are fine until BIS will shed some light but saying BAS were BIS members from the beginning is waay far fetched.

[Acecombat]

http://www.tacticalblunder.com/~uploads/migebuff/imagethumb_4.jpg
Seeing the palm-trees in the background my guess would be South-american rebel troops, or something like that.
Yep the faces look like that too dark brows and all http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

[HOBOMAN]

hmm somethings not right

[void_false]

lol, i started read form 5-th page and when got to end - there were already 7&#33;&#33;
what i think is: BIS just planned to make OFP2 in vietnam (whatever it is) era. all that we have seen is crappy TV-set and blured picture. So if u say BIS moving to modern era and loosing old stuff, i think it is wrong opinion because BIS has nothing to loose http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

just my 2 NIS http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif

[HOBOMAN]

http://www.tacticalblunder.com/~uploads/migebuff/imagethumb_4.jpg
Seeing the palm-trees in the background my guess would be South-american rebel troops, or something like that.
They seems like government forces not rebels. Notice the vbs shed in the backround that was also made by Axel.

[Nilz]

...which we saw on IL2 screens?...
IL2?

This really makes me itchy and scratchy. Marek should say something in this thread http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
Maybe they are early OFP2 screenies? Maybe a new expansion? Maybe... argh, i&#39;m getting so confused here http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

[jelly belly]

who the schmucks axel?

[void_false]

I don`t like the direction of this thread.Please stop spamming. We,the blinded public are finally on to something we wouldn`t want this thread closed by the moderators.
Conspiracy theories are fine until BIS will shed some light but saying BAS were BIS members from the beginning is waay far fetched.
u r so scared because you already have 2 squares http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif

ppl, plz continue this topic. this is most exciting thread ever (for me http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif)

just my 3 NIS

[HOBOMAN]

Well a devoloper should come in here and clean this mess up. (or did they want it?)

[d034rk]

It&#39;s exactly the same one.

http://www.theavonlady.org/theofpfaq/images/vbs_iofp_02.jpg

[quicKsanD]

lol, i started read form 5-th page and when got to end - there were already 7&#33;&#33;
what i think is: BIS just planned to make OFP2 in vietnam (whatever it is) era. all that we have seen is crappy TV-set and blured picture. So if u say BIS moving to modern era and loosing old stuff, i think it is wrong opinion because BIS has nothing to loose  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

just my 2 NIS  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif
What the hell are you talking about..When`s the last time you visited www.flashpoint2.com ? It`s a plasma sony tv right now..
Second:I have nothing to worry about.It`s not me who`s spamming in here.

[MSpencer]

You know you&#39;re never gonna get a press release from anyone. If this is BAS&#39;s stuff, they&#39;ve signed 35 NDAs prohibiting even a slight offhand remark about their work and how it relates to BIS.

[Acecombat]

Axel is the guy who made this shed for OFP but didnt he copied the VBS one ? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif

and Yes the flashpoint2 tv is changed to a new one now ....

[Evishion]

I think BAS works with BIS now..

a little thing to think over

1: BAS havent released ANY addons in the last time. AND they havent updated the site on AGES...


CONCLUTON: They work with BIS http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif

thats what I think

[jelly belly]

a-men brother

[void_false]

Quote[/b] ]AND they havent updated the site on AGES...

so what to say about flashpoint1985.com that wasnt updated for ages^2

[Leone]

Axel is the guy who made this shed for OFP but didnt he copied the VBS one ?  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif

and Yes the flashpoint2 tv is changed to a new one now ....
It&#39;s Axe, and yes it was "inspired" by the VBS one....it&#39;s not the VBS one.

[Acecombat]

Axel is the guy who made this shed for OFP but didnt he copied the VBS one ?  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif

and Yes the flashpoint2 tv is changed to a new one now ....
It&#39;s Axe, and yes it was "inspired" by the VBS one....it&#39;s not the VBS one.
Yes yes the same thing i meant.

[Hellfish6]

You guys probably all believe in aliens and the tooth fairy as well. Until sometime substantial comes of this, I&#39;m inclined to close this thread down if all you&#39;re gonna do is spout baseless conspiracy theories.

I&#39;ll check this thread again later and if it&#39;s still the pointless, spamming nonsense I&#39;m going to close it.

[quicKsanD]

I think BAS works with BIS now..

a little thing to think over

1: BAS havent released ANY addons in the last time. AND they havent updated the site on AGES...


CONCLUTON: They work with BIS  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif

thats what I think
2. BAS addon makers have lifes too,they are not robots
3. They said they were having problems with their site,one of their members were moving so had to stop working

ConclusIon:It`s very possible that BAS is working with BIS, if so we should be happy for them,but they could have also been facing life related problems.Speculating on it won`t help.BIS never played us for fools(just think of costumer suport),let`s all be patiant and we will surely be rewarded with an official answer sooner or later.So let`s stop here before this thread gets locked

[jelly belly]

Way to sum it all up http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

[Evishion]

I think BAS works with BIS now..

a little thing to think over

1: BAS havent released ANY addons in the last time. AND they havent updated the site on AGES...


CONCLUTON: They work with BIS  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif

thats what I think
2. BAS addon makers have lifes too,they are not robots
3. They said they have problems with their site,one of their members were moving so had to stop working

ConclusIon:It`s very possible that BAS is working with BIS, if so we should be happy for them,but they could have also been facing life related problems.Speculating on it won`t help.BIS never played us for fools(just think of costumer suport),let`s all be patiant and we will surely be rewarded with an official answer sooner or later.So let`s stop here before this thread gets locked
Yeah. I know. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
but as I sayd .. thats what I think http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif but of cource.. it may be something whole different.. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[txalin]

damn, and im the guy that start all the bis and bas cooperation posts.... and this start with small joke...... next time i will think twice before talk http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif



PD: One spanish guys tell me that its ofp 2 screen, lol, plz maruk, tell something, plz.... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

[ShadowY]

BiS and b.a. s http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif I just checked for other games arriving late 2004 and in 2005.
Some people really know how to make others puke http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif

[USMC Sniper]

Looks pretty cool, but if it is OFP2 then IMO they should improve on the engine because right now it&#39;s looking like OFP with new addons and hardly any improvement. How do they expect to sell with a stand alone expansion pack?

[Jakerod]

Personally I wouldn&#39;t mind all that much if OFP 2 looked the same as OFP as long as they change some features around, 2 weapons per vehicles, walking on moving objects etc. Im actually more afraid that they would change it to something that looks stupid.

[Lee_H._Oswald]

One question:

Was it ever official announced, that opf2 will have 2 gunner positions, in choppers for example ?

MfG Lee http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/ghostface.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[vektorboson]

One question:

Was it ever official announced, that opf2 will have 2 gunner positions, in choppers for example ?

MfG Lee http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/ghostface.gif  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
Only thing ever announced was OFP 2 itself. There was almost no information about OFP 2 with exception of using streaming for large terrains

[jelly belly]

the so called "Conspiracy" has been uncoverd.
This was postted 10 minutes ago on opflashpoint.org.
Mystery SOLVED

These pics are from Independence Lost or another project by BIS AU, want proof here it is:

Checking CRSNIC Server...
Checking whois.opensrs.net Server...


this shows the origin of the websites register, in australia. Which means its something to do with Indipendance lost.
Credit to Arrow.

Personal details removed, do not post them again please. - Placebo.

[Acecombat]

Edit:already done

http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif
Its seventh right ? As here in BIS peoples page (http://www.bistudio.com/inside/people.html)
Name: David Lagettie
Position: BIA (Director), Designer , 2D/3D Artist, Concept Design

Were getting nearer people  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif

[jelly belly]

lol, beat ya to it ace.

[RalphWiggum]

http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif
Its seventh right ? As here in BIS peoples page (http://www.bistudio.com/inside/people.html)
Name: David Lagettie
Position: BIA (Director), Designer , 2D/3D Artist, Concept Design
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

[jelly belly]

lol, we should be detectives

[quicKsanD]

Sorry to burst your bubbles but you guys were beated all the way to page one..We already knew it was registered by BI Australia..

BTW www.independencelost.com isn`t working any more

edit:LOL Ralph,they sure solved the conspiracy..

[jelly belly]

meh

[Acecombat]

Sorry to burst your bubbles but you guys were beated all the way to page one..We already knew it was registered by BI Australia..

BTW www.independencelost.com isn`t working any more...
The point was WHAT IS IL got to do with OFPs upgrade ?

[Shadow NX]

Hmm lots of conspiracy nuts in here  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif

Well, BIS if you ever need some russian stuff just call...  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif

And btw in the one pic you can clearly see russian soldiers but they seem to be from coldwar era, behind a UAZ with a DshK it seems...

Leaves more room for era seculations...

[void_false]

A&#39;right now. WTF theavonlady? WTF she hasnt updated her site? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif

[theavonlady]

A&#39;right now. WTF theavonlady? WTF she hasnt updated her site?  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif
Just for using curse acronyms, I won&#39;t put up the pics till tomorrow. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/mad_o.gif

http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif

[Mr ThunderMakeR]

lol, we should be detectives
Are you THE Jellybellly? The original Jellybelly from Tigershark/Jellybelly Productions?

EDIT: Youre in on this arent you? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

[quicKsanD]

Dude what`s wrong with you?Are you 10 years old?Have some decency and delete your post..Where did the idea came to guys like you that you diserve everything,addon makers MUST release addons, site admins MUST update their site. They don`t have to do shit for you. Has it crossed your mind before you started swearing that people do have lifes outside OF? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif

On topic: ShadowNX something doesn`t fit.If those are really Russian cold war soldiers then how come the deltas are up to date?

[Fragsta]

Can somebody just brief me on what&#39;s going on? All I understand is:

- BIS Australia registered the domain flashpoint2004.com and some pictures were posted, and it was rumoured to be the second site for flashpoint 2 or the site for another flashpoint expansion pack.
- This site is now not working.
- Everyone is talking about conspiracies, now.
- Something about BAS and BIS co-operating, which would be nice, since if that picture of a littlebird is BIS then I wouldn&#39;t know whether to use that one or the BAS one.

Can anyone explain what I missed?&#33;

[Harnu]

First thing I did was run a DNS search when I saw this thread, but it kept saying timed out and still does when it&#39;s running. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/mad_o.gif

[void_false]

quicKsanD
Specify, to whom your post refers to?

[theavonlady]

lol, we should be detectives
Are you THE Jellybellly? The original Jellybelly from Tigershark/Jellybelly Productions?

EDIT: Youre in on this arent you?  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif
Whoever he is, he stole Major Fubar&#39;s avatar. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wow_o.gif

Give it back&#33; http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/mad_o.gif

[ArchangelSKT]

Well if the mystery is settled for now I guess that we`re in for more jaw-dropping stuff when we will see stuff from OPF2 since this was from IL .

[theavonlady]

Well if the mystery is settled for now I guess that we`re in for more jaw-dropping stuff when we will see stuff from OPF2 since this was from IL .
Interestingly, the Independence Lost site (http://www.independencelost.com/) is down. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif

[-=anders=-]

Something very WEIRD is going on now and I DON&#39;T think it&#39;s a new expansionpack...

[Nuclear W]

My theory:
We should tie Deadmeat to a chair and pistol whip him till he spills the beans&#33;

J/K&#33;

This is very interesting...

[theavonlady]

It&#39;s sort of simple............... I think.

IL is gone or will be wrapped up as part of OFP 2.

OFP2 is will come as a modern combat sim. Hence the name of the new site, Flashpoint2004, just like this site we&#39;re foruming on is appropriately named Flashpoint1985.

There&#39;s a good chance that Independence Lost will still be in OFP2, I believe. The 2004 timeline also fits in with the end of IL&#39;s storyline:

Quote[/b] ]By its resolution 1338 of 31 January 2001, the Security Council extended the mandate of UNTAET until 31 January 2002, bearing in mind the possible need for adjustments related to the independence timetable.
So, what&#39;s all the hubbub, bubs? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

[wkdavis]

http://www.raceworx.com/imabandwidththief/can_o_worms.jpg

[andersgrim]

I think it would be smart of BIS to anounce a word or two now..

[Fragsta]

Hello? Can anyone answer my question? Scroll up....^^

[theavonlady]

Hello? Can anyone answer my question? Scroll up....^^
Press the PAGE UP button in the upper right corner of your keyboard. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif

[quicKsanD]

Hello? Can anyone answer my question? Scroll up....^^
You summed it up pretty well.Other things you should know..Well they had a 17 MB trailer planed that I couldn`t find on the ftp.

[Fragsta]

Oh good. So nobody knows what&#39;s going on now then? A whole load of those photos are on the flashpoint2.com website in less detail, not just two.

[theavonlady]

A whole load of those photos are on the flashpoint2.com website in less detail
Only 2 of them: the A10 and the Littlebird.

[ArchangelSKT]

Well I hope we will hear something from BIS soon anyway .
Allthough I hope IL is not included in OPF2 cause that means one instead of two products http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif

I had been looking forward to both , but anyway not like we really know what`s going on anyway I guess http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif

[r1c0cH3T]

Intresting indeed, thogh i would suggest that you all stop nosing around. Last thing we need here is to piss BIS off.

[RalphWiggum]

Allthough I hope IL is not included in OPF2 cause that means one instead of two products  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif
sssshhhhhhhhh.......shaddap&#33; you might give them ideas&#33; http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

[Harnu]

I think it would be smart of BIS to anounce a word or two now..
Why?  The more mystery around the subject the better.  I saw 150+ members ACTIVE on on the forums at the same time earlier today.  I think it&#39;s smart for them to stay vague and lips sealed.

[quicKsanD]

Only BIS never was into cheezy publicity stunts and hopefully never will be.
Just look at Half-Life and then tell me if you want to see the game over-hyped and be misleaded by its creators.September 2003?Ptui&#33;
Sure Operation Flashpoint could have been a bigger hit and better advartised but although it`s problems,BIS has the unchalanged title of one of the most serious dev teams and has offered probably the best costumer support..

[Koolkid101]

Hmm I want more pictures&#33;

[SpeedyDonkey]

Interesting... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

[Nilz]

...Registrant:
Personal details removed, do not post them again please. - Placebo.
Domain Name: FLASHPOINT2004.COM
Registrar: TUCOWS INC.
Whois Server: whois.opensrs.net
Referral URL: http://domainhelp.tucows.com
Name Server: NS2.DYNAMICNAME.COM
Name Server: NS1.DYNAMICNAME.COM
Status: ACTIVE
Updated Date: 09-oct-2003
Creation Date: 09-oct-2003
Expiration Date: 09-oct-2004

Hmmm.... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif

[Ian Malcolm]

And btw in the one pic you can clearly see russian soldiers but they seem to be from coldwar era, behind a UAZ with a DshK it seems...
It&#39;s definitely not UAZ. Look at the door handle. This car looks more like this: http://www.celebrationcarcompany.co.uk/Land%20Rover%20Side_large.JPG

Any other speculations? ;)

[GuyKorn]

This is fun lol :-P . i think though its for OFP2, the A-10 pic is in Iraq or Afganistan, same with the Littlebirds, and im thinkin the one which it looks liek goverenment troops are in hawaii i think they are in Cube during the 60&#39;s and or 70&#39;s and its for a fictional cuba invasion by the us.......hmmm......goes to ebd and sleeps on it

[Basher5_2]

so far everyone says they changed it to modern day game and if its set in 2004, then the Grey A-10A would make sense, During Iraq, the Air National Guard A10 squardern was deployed to Iraq, their A10s are all painted Grey, and personally i have never seen a Green A10, only Grey ones, and they have some Nice SF units, looks like Deltas and Rangers, I think its possible that BAS submitted its finished work to BIS and they reworked them to the new OFP 2 game engine, so maybe 2 gunners on 1 BH? or more gunner positions. when i saw the pics pop up on ofp.info i got really excited i think this is a great find, thats Quicksand.

sorry if anyone considers this spam, just thought i would add some little facts i know, and what i think.

[Silent_Zero]

ok i am confused... the sites are down are all the pics on cz it? and if not can somebody send me the pics?? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

[thirtyg]

Why?  The more mystery around the subject the better.  I saw 150+ members ACTIVE on on the forums at the same time earlier today.  I think it&#39;s smart for them to stay vague and lips sealed.
Your right about that&#33;&#33;


Quote[/b] ]Most users ever online was 193 on Feb. 23 2004,07:08

It has already started. Either way (BAS/BIS, BIS, IL, OFP2) i&#39;m just happy to see some progress. Least i know now we are gonna get something super special when it is released.

[Shadow NX]

And btw in the one pic you can clearly see russian soldiers but they seem to be from coldwar era, behind a UAZ with a DshK it seems...
It&#39;s definitely not UAZ. Look at the door handle. This car looks more like this: http://www.celebrationcarcompany.co.uk/Land%20Rover%20Side_large.JPG

Any other speculations? ;)
Hmm yes ok, seems im wrong here, the gun is a DshK for sure so i wonder how this fits together, maybe just a placeholder so people think its a uaz?
Hmm really no idea http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wow_o.gif

http://www.sga-clan.de/bisforums/15.jpg

But the soldiers are clearly russians, they look a bit like coldwar VDV units, the belts,cammo, ammo pouches and helmets are russian made for sure.

Hope someone enlightens us soon http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif

[Evishion]

hmm.. have abad feeling that its VBS1 http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[JoeKick]

I&#39;ll put money on it that this is something of an expansion for OFP tied with VBS1&#33; Think about it, VBS1 objects, BIS name all over it..... Dum dum dum dum *drum roll please*

[Nilz]

And btw in the one pic you can clearly see russian soldiers but they seem to be from coldwar era, behind a UAZ with a DshK it seems...
It&#39;s definitely not UAZ. Look at the door handle. This car looks more like this: http://www.celebrationcarcompany.co.uk/Land%20Rover%20Side_large.JPG

Any other speculations? ;)
Hmm yes ok, seems im wrong here, the gun is a DshK for sure so i wonder how this fits together, maybe just a placeholder so people think its a uaz?
Hmm really no idea  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wow_o.gif

http://www.sga-clan.de/bisforums/15.jpg

But the soldiers are clearly russians, they look a bit like coldwar VDV units, the belts,cammo, ammo pouches and helmets are russian made for sure.

Hope someone enlightens us soon  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif
The strangest thing in this pic is that the dude on the left corner looks a bit like the US General from the original CWC.
But of course it&#39;s just a thought ;)

[Leone]

Just to add a bit of fuel to the fire...from the BAS site:


Quote[/b] ] 11/12/2003 - Server Woes... &#124; Posted by DeadMeat
As you may know, we have been experiencing some extended downtime since the release of the Tonal Pack.

We are currently in the process of moving to a new server, who will hopefully provide us with a more stable site.


Please bear with us whilst we switch servers, the site may be down for a few days whilst this takes place. Also, the bug page is now closed, pending a total upgrade (and the new server so it actually works)

Thanks for your patience guys and girls, rest assured the site will be back up at full strength sometime soon&#33;


So lets see....BIS trying a new website, and BAS moving servers at the same time http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif

Hehehe&#33;

[FHP_Intercepter]

Little new to Flashpoint, what is IL and VBS1?

[SNIPER_SKULL]

Just to add a bit of fuel to the fire...from the BAS site:


Quote[/b] ] 11/12/2003 - Server Woes... &#124; Posted by DeadMeat
As you may know, we have been experiencing some extended downtime since the release of the Tonal Pack.

We are currently in the process of moving to a new server, who will hopefully provide us with a more stable site.


Please bear with us whilst we switch servers, the site may be down for a few days whilst this takes place. Also, the bug page is now closed, pending a total upgrade (and the new server so it actually works)

Thanks for your patience guys and girls, rest assured the site will be back up at full strength sometime soon&#33;


So lets see....BIS trying a new website, and BAS moving servers at the same time http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif

Hehehe&#33;
do you no how old the news on the BAS site is lol http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif

[Cozza]

If IL is for OFp 2 and those a prusuminly IL pics. Then thats means the engines is done, most of the units are done.

No way. BIS or BIA Australia havnt worked that fast. If they have then this game will be released Mid year not the expected late 2004/ early 2005 realease date.

Just my AUD 0.5cent

[RavenDK]

hmm

[Balschoiw]

I guess it´s the teaser for OFP 1.5. OFP2 won´t be finished this year.
Units are either from cuba or south america imo.

[Acecombat]

Where are the gun junkies http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif ?

Can anyone tell m whcih gun that guy is holding with his back on the pic ?

Looks sorta like a G-3 or something to me its end is too long for it to be a AK but then again i am no gun genuis...maybe its a SVD dragunov? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif

[Vognsen]

Looks amazing.

Tried enlarging and editing the soldier pic for a closer look.... This rocks:

http://www.garderlivet.dk/image/ofp1.5.jpg

[Cozza]

could be a FN Fal or if this in IL and set near Australia maybe a L1A1 with the longer barrel. Be back soon with some pics
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

[Vognsen]

Here u can see some details on the gun:

http://www.garderlivet.dk/image/ofp1.5-2.jpg

[Cozza]

ok got the scaned book uploaded on my site. Just so I dont violate copywrite i will state the book

Title-Small arms
Aurtor-Chris chant

Ok here the link for the FN FAL
FN FAL (http://www.freewebs.com/batdogshome/FNFAL.JPG)

Also say that Australia made a version for New Guinea troops. Maybe seet in New Guinea. Sez in the right hand corner.

[RavenDK]

if you look at the pic you can see the classics of a cOLT AR15 variant... jugdeing from what i can see its moste likely to be a M4A1 (note the upperreciver is flat)  and there is mounted a ACOG scope on it  


(Why i´m so sure well i got a M4A1 whit a ACOG my self irl thats why ;)  )


for the pic whit the russians it could be a FAL variant and allso the soldier whit the back to the camera is in a other uniform... so the ruskis there could be advisors

[Pappy Boyington]

If IL is for OFp 2 and those a prusuminly IL pics. Then thats means the engines is done, most of the units are done.

No way. BIS or BIA Australia havnt worked that fast. If they have then this game will be released Mid year not the expected late 2004/ early 2005 realease date.

Just my AUD 0.5cent
simple. they call the release date late

a) give them time to work out unexpected bugs
b) shut us up until then
c) makem look good releasing a project ahead of schedual


i think i might investagate this further.. but a few moments ago (it apperest as if the webmaster is curently working on the folders and such as im on the site right now) there was a subfolder in teh parent directory called ebud. i dont remember that lil bugger bein a bis staff http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif


regaurding the engine being done... remember the old IL (Independance Lost) screenshots and stories? well IL has since died. or has it? if it has not hte IL engine shown already superious to the current OFP engine is already complet, working, and in perfect order. the only thing left would be to make the games semi-compatable (addonos/mods). make up a few missions, addons, voice acting, campaign, and gather sound fx (which takes time of course) and bam ur done.


regaurding where its registerd: its registered in the outback eh? big deal. say i need a webhost. if theres one in the US for &#036;5 a month and one in say mexico for &#036;2 im gonna go with the one in mexico. doesnt deny the fact i live in the USA. just means its cheaper for me to go with that one.

[Tim Pink]

Hey everyone.

Well this "conspiracy theory" is sure gathering momentum.

Just a little observation:
In the pick with the russian soldiers look at the camo pattern of the soldier closest to the screen(the one that looks like Blake)

its not the same as the russian camo

Tim

[STGN]

Looks amazing.

Tried enlarging and editing the soldier pic for a closer look.... This rocks:

http://www.garderlivet.dk/image/ofp1.5.jpg
Can enybody compare THis ACOG whit earls they look much the same.
STGN

[STGN]

Is it just me or do they addons made today look much like what we see here.
STGN

[FW200]

I posted this at the start of the topic:

Quote[/b] ]
-Almost all units are special ops
-New A10 (notice the rounder engines)
-Official Jungle Island
-Official Winter Island
-Open UAZ with mounted MG (Dshk?)
-New soldiers
-Littlebird picture from the flashpoint2 site
-On one banner you can see the BIS logo together with the VBS1 logo...

And now I would like to make some adjustments to what I feel it is now.
I think this is an updated OFP engine with some extra features like JIP and the units from VBS1 (source: That building) and IL (source: the Ch46 cockpit). The campaign involves special ops with AFAIK Russians as enemy&#39;s again , however this is still kinda fuzzy since what would russians be doing in the jungle?

One thing I&#39;m unsure of.. is the terrain.. on one pic you can see "desert" (on the A-10 pic) and on another one Winter (cockpit pic) and on several other ones you can see Jungle...

I think it&#39;s quite fishy and I have a feeling that we won&#39;t get news from BIS untill the E3 arrives which would be a good time for them to announce stuff  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

[FW200]

News from ofp.info:

Quote[/b] ]According to our sources the BIS Australia side project we&#39;ve mentioned before is probably Virtual Battlefield System 2, so it&#39;s not for public release but only for military use.

www.vbs2.com url goes to flashpoint2004.com/vbs2

[ArchangelSKT]

Here u can see some details on the gun:
http://www.garderlivet.dk/image/ofp1.5-2.jpg
Looks like a AR-15 series or maybe even a stoner-25 which would be sweet .
Or a M4 commando version with a short barrel....uhuh I must read up on firearms  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/sad_o.gif

[thirtyg]

And now look where the flashpoint2004.com redirects to. --&#62; flashpoint1985.com http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif hehe

[Cozza]

Its not vbs2. NOway. I dont think the marines use little birds. And VBS2 wont have Soviets as opfor. No there something fishy going on here. And i&#39;m gonna PM Maruk and find out.

[thirtyg]

Its not vbs2. NOway. I dont think the marines use little birds. And VBS2 wont have Soviets as opfor. No there something fishy going on here. And i&#39;m gonna PM Maruk and find out.
Yeh i agree, the site wouldnt direct to flashpoint1985 if it was soley VBS.

PM Seventh since he registered the site and i&#39;ve seem him in OFP2 general quite a bit tonight...

[Smokki]

I bet we conna have "improved" VBS for public  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif &#33; maybe, maybe not, but if it&#39;s only for military why BIS made trailer http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif , for military??

[The Rocket]

I wont quote anyone now, but my theory is:

Maybe BIS contacted BAS and other addons teams so they would upload their addons @<hidden> flashpoint2004.com, so BIS convert themt o OFP2 addons.

Also the flashpoint2004.com/ebud someone mentioned, remember ebud made ilo ilo, and told in the readme file it was a test for something bigger?..

The russian soldiers are the BAS russian forces pack?

The A10 is the BAS desert pack?


the winter island is Kegetys Nogojev converted for OFP2, with some changes ?

Looks nice http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

EDIT:
I think its good that BIS, if, are working with the best addonsmaker, like bigger island projects and better models etc..

[Messiah]

i think going on the idea that these are BAS and other addon makers stuff is slightly naive...

i&#39;d doubt it if BAS are working with BIS on this project, whatever it is - or at least thats what my sources tell me  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif

[Leone]

do you no how old the news on the BAS site is lol  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif
Yeah I know&#33; Like I said.....I&#39;m just adding fuel to the fire lol http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

[Acecombat]

Ive already PM&#39;ed Suma but no reply .... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/blues.gif

[Postduifje]

wohooo, nice work guys&#33;&#33;&#33; http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

[Llauma]

I bet they are following this thread with a evil grin on their faces http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif
Man, this kind of torture must be a violation against the basic human rights.. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif

I don&#39;t honestly know what to think about this...

[NKVD]

We (gaming community) demand an official statement&#33;&#33; http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

[Acecombat]

I had no hopes for a reply from SUMA and guess what he is fulfilling my hopes http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif

They wont say anything ... i agree this is torture its like Guantanamo Bay .... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/ghostface.gif

So any news on this out of the community did any cranky gaming site put this up for kicks , like gamespot or someone?

[Llauma]

They wont say anything ... i agree this is torture its like Guantanamo Bay .... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/ghostface.gif
I agree.. it&#39;s as annoying as if someone poking your ear with a stick when you really need to get some sleep. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif

[Acecombat]

well heres a old excerpts from ATWARS interview with marek:


Quote[/b] ]@<hidden>: In the official website, it was mentioned that real life localities will be used. Can you give us some examples of these localities? Are the maps going to consist of entire continents instead of just islands like in OFP1?

Marek: There&#39;ll be three large localities in Southeast Asia, Central Europe and Africa, based on real places, but we don&#39;t have plans yet as to their exact locations. The size of environments in OFP2 will surpass the original game islands.


@<hidden>: Can you tell us a bit more about the campaigns?

Marek: Three theaters of war were already announced for the game: Southeast Asia, Central Europe and Africa. I can confirm the part in Southeast Asia will be during infamous Vietnam War. We have done months of research to make sure it&#39;s as realistic as possible and we&#39;re going to base missions on many events that really happened there.


@<hidden>: How about a tip on the new vehicles and weapons of OFP2?

Marek: You can expect pretty much everything that was in common use in 1970s.


This new stuff just cant be OFP2 is my gut feeling .... Marek said they had done massive research in to Vietnam and the other 3 theaters its not easy for a game dev team to make such drastic changes IF those models and stuff we saw in the pics are theres and NOT BAS or anyone elses.These modern stuff just arent meant for OFP2 its suppose to be in the 70&#39;s.
It just doesnt fit .....

I say this is just that 1.55 thingy weve been told about which nearly all of us discarded as first as a ignorant comment from a gaming magazine ...

[vektorboson]

I say this is just that 1.55 thingy

Hi, I wrote about the "1.55 thingy" and I meant the 1.55 Beta Patch which came before Resistance. (and there was no final patch afterwards, but the Resistance-Addon)
What you probably mean is OFP "1.5", which shall be the rumoured expansion pack.

EDIT:
BIS still releasing BETA-patches for OFP would make sense, when they indeed plan an expansion pack.

[Llauma]

well heres a old excerpts from ATWARS interview with marek:


Quote[/b] ]@<hidden>: In the official website, it was mentioned that real life localities will be used. Can you give us some examples of these localities? Are the maps going to consist of entire continents instead of just islands like in OFP1?

Marek: There&#39;ll be three large localities in Southeast Asia, Central Europe and Africa, based on real places, but we don&#39;t have plans yet as to their exact locations. The size of environments in OFP2 will surpass the original game islands.


@<hidden>: Can you tell us a bit more about the campaigns?

Marek: Three theaters of war were already announced for the game: Southeast Asia, Central Europe and Africa. I can confirm the part in Southeast Asia will be during infamous Vietnam War. We have done months of research to make sure it&#39;s as realistic as possible and we&#39;re going to base missions on many events that really happened there.


@<hidden>: How about a tip on the new vehicles and weapons of OFP2?

Marek: You can expect pretty much everything that was in common use in 1970s.


This new stuff just cant be OFP2 is my gut feeling .... Marek said they had done massive research in to Vietnam and the other 3 theaters its not easy for a game dev team to make such drastic changes IF those models and stuff we saw in the pics are theres and NOT BAS or anyone elses.These modern stuff just arent meant for OFP2 its suppose to be in the 70&#39;s.
It just doesnt fit .....

I say this is just that 1.55 thingy weve been told about which nearly all of us discarded as first as a ignorant comment from a gaming magazine ...
I thought it was pretty obvious by now that OFP2 won&#39;t be in the 70&#39;s. Just check the official site..

But this isn&#39;t OFP2.. maybe a few parts of the pics are some beta stuff that will be in OFP2 such as the faces etc.

So what&#39;s the purpose of this site? I think it&#39;s a planned expansion aka IL but as BIS decided to make OFP2 a modern warfare game they postponed the release.

[Acecombat]

I thought it was pretty obvious by now that OFP2 won&#39;t be in the 70&#39;s. Just check the official site..


Then did marek lie in the interview or what? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif
I mean h mad it clear that it was all 70&#39;s and they HAD DONE loads of research in to it ....

[Llauma]

I thought it was pretty obvious by now that OFP2 won&#39;t be in the 70&#39;s. Just check the official site..


Then did marek lie in the interview or what?  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif
I mean h mad it clear that it was all 70&#39;s and they HAD DONE loads of research in to it ....
How old is that interview? They used to have a old TV but now they have a modern one with modern units. This change was propably the reason why they delayed the release of OFP2 and not just because of the xbox version as they said

[Ironsight]

Then did marek lie in the interview or what?  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif
Maybe he didn&#39;t knew already and is this project just started

[NKVD]

I can say for myself - it would suck if OFP:2 would be about Vietnam...there are so many titles coming out about Vietnam (BF vietnam, Vietcong: Fist Alpha + some other games), I am sick and tired of that...besides, the reason Im playing OFP instead of BF42 is partly because I like modern weapons and scenarios...Looks like developers are WW2 and Vietnam maniacs this days...I hope OFP:2 will have modern stuff...

[Hellfish6]

OFP2 is not going to be about Vietnam, or at least the Vietnam War that you&#39;re all thinking of.

[GoOB]

I thought it was pretty obvious by now that OFP2 won&#39;t be in the 70&#39;s. Just check the official site..


Then did marek lie in the interview or what?  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif
I mean h mad it clear that it was all 70&#39;s and they HAD DONE loads of research in to it ....
As the others say games change ALOT over time. And when a project is just starting you never know. If there has indeed been a change I think that BIS saw that what the community is leaning towards now is contemporary warfare opposed to historical warfare.

Hopefully OFP2 will cover both scenarios from the seventies and more modern days. And research put in on Asian countries/The vietnam war doesn&#39;t have to go to waste just because the game is not going to revolve around that conflict.

[Scorpio]

Golly...conspiracies are so fun&#33; http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif
I have a slight hunch that a certain addon studio have something to do with this... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[The Rocket]

Hmm what if thoose pics were just some test for a ofp1 2 ofp2 converter? Probably not.
I would like it to be vietnam, it would be nice, FB vietnam and Vietcong are other games with other engines, I think OFP2 nam would be great, but OFP2 can be anything but sci-fi(made up/unrealistic) so i dont mind actually. To be honest I dont really care what war it is, a made up conflict works too, unless it has silly weapons http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

I think the reason the game devs makes games based on WW2 and Vietnam is because thoose wars are most famous.
And other wargames does exists, Desert Storm, DF:BHD etc.

I would also like some words from BIS about the pics..
Maybe they just posted some pictures of the OFP2 engine in its current status, and converted addons, just to tease us.

[jelly belly]

Check ofp.gamezone.cz
they just reported that these screenies are of VBS2, so doubt it has anything to too with BAS.

[Ironsight]

Why, if I go to one of the adresses given on ofp.info do I need to enter a pasword? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif

[vektorboson]

Check ofp.gamezone.cz
they just reported that these screenies are of VBS2, so doubt it has anything to too with BAS.
Yeah, they make a banner which says "Flashpoint" on it, and it should be VBS2 then?
Like all of us, OFP.info can only guess, and I guess, that this one is wrong.

[Llauma]

Check ofp.gamezone.cz
they just reported that these screenies are of VBS2, so doubt it has anything to too with BAS.
A source said that but I dont believe that... The pics do not show things a army would wanna see if they would consider buying a combat sim. And what does flashpoint2004.com has to do with VBS2?

[Fragsta]

Operation flashpoint 2 will use US VBS technology. Someone mentioned http://www.flashpoint2004.com/vbs/ and I went there....requires a password......

My theory is that BIS have been using it to set up the site for Operation Flashpoint 2. The screenshots are previews of Operation Flashpoint 2, but now they are trying to cover it up. They aren&#39;t releasing an official statement because they want us to get all hyper and they want to fill conspiracy theories into out brains, it&#39;s good publicity for the game. Just because the game isn&#39;t finished it doesn&#39;t mean they won&#39;t be giving little screenshots here and there of finished PARTS of the game. They are reading this now, thinking "they haven&#39;t got a clue" and they&#39;ve got a little trick up their sleeve....their next move we cannot predict, but all these websites could have been designed to make us suspicious and crazy with conspiracies, very good publicity for the game. Who knows what will happen next? Everyone wants to be the next person to find something out that will unravel this mystery further....and BIS are really happy about this. We&#39;re doing exactly what they wanted us to do. I&#39;m not saying it&#39;s a bad thing, but not many of you realise this, saying things like "VBS and BIS have nothing to do with each other". They do, it said so on the website...I&#39;m probably confusing everyone....I&#39;m confusing myself... http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif

[Nuclear W]

yeah, and why would they want russkie forces as OPFOR?

Unless...

**realises the 2nd cold war is about to begin and hordes guns and food in a cave**

[Jtec]

I have a great idea about how we can get info from BIS... We all stop comming to their forums for a few days so they think the public has lost interest in OFP2. They will think that the only way to get interest back into OFP2 would be to release info and maybe a few Screens of the game. That way we get our screens while BIS think they get the great public interest back (but they had it all the time with us just pretending to lose interest) http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif Only problem now is i have given away my cunning plan and they wont release the darn pics http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif

[quicKsanD]

Hy guys,I am almost 100% sure is not VBS2..

http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/userpics/14528/storyline%5B1%5D.jpg

When the pics were still up I managed to find a icon that read "storyline".Why would VBS2 have a storyline.I think this prooves it all.VBS is a simulator for the marines and all about various type of missions,not a story..

And this picture I think I am reading Flashpoint and two soldiers side by side bellow as in Flashpoint 2.

http://www.tacticalblunder.com/~uploads/migebuff/logoheader_1.jpg

If anything I am sure VBS2 must be the side project of Flashpoint 2...

[Fragsta]

On www.flashpoint2.com there is something saying that OFP 2 will use VBS software&#33;

[SHWiiNG]

wow, we&#39;ve got to get more info wh need a mole from bis of somethin
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[Nuclear W]

If it&#39;s nothing to do with ofp, why don&#39;t BIS just tell us then?
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/rock.gif

[void_false]

nice idea&#33;&#33; even exxxelent idea&#33;&#33;&#33; let&#39;s go on strike till 1-st of March.

[SpongeBob]

BIS should just come out and say something, even just a paragraph, or a sentence, even a haiku, anything. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif

[ExtracTioN]

I think within 3/4 moths BIS is gonna release Flashpoint2004 game.
And in 2005 we get OFP2 & IL http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
That&#39;s what I think is gonna happen http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif

[The Rocket]

I think within 3/4 moths BIS is gonna release Flashpoint2004 game.
And in 2005 we get OFP2 & IL http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
That&#39;s what I think is gonna happen http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif
Lets hope so, but I think BIS would&#39;ve announced something so we can pre order it http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

[SCFan42]

I thought it was pretty obvious by now that OFP2 won&#39;t be in the 70&#39;s. Just check the official site..
Don&#39;t forget the old OpV site (http://www.seventh.com.au/vietnam/index.htm). Maybe OFP2 has both?

[GuyKorn]

I think OFP2 is acctauly VBS1 just alittle modified to work with more computers and more stuff. And they are mostly making VBS2 right now. so the job for OFP2 will be easyer cause its already done with VBS1. And with the BAS thing i think they are working with the VBS 1 and 2 cause of the hiring page on VBS that they have that some BAS signed up and made it cause with their skill and teh requirments which they said BAS makes it easly. Thats what i think. and im pretty sure this is what is going on.

[The Rocket]

That littlebird on the ofp2 site could be the one on the OFP vietnam site, makes sense to me.

[Str8jackitz]

www.flashpoint2004.com links back to www.flashpoint1985.com could this be Official OFP?
http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif I Think so...

c&#39;mon BIS, what gives?.........

[GuyKorn]

i think they are just messing with our minds, they are probably laughing at us say "ha ha they cant figure it out"

[JoeKick]

No comments
Tiny beta patches to stay &#39;up to date&#39;
The demand of modern AddOns
VBS1 Hiding everything (with excuse)
Ties with BIS, VBS1 and BAS
An Official link
A slight tip to the public
A horde of people flocking in
For the people = FUN
For BIS/VBS1 = &#036;&#036;&#036;

Something is screaming out to us, I&#39;d say its an expansion. OFP2 has been announced to have three theatres, obviously this is not OFP2. VBS1 and BAS create modern weapons, VBS1 hired BAS men and VBS1 is stuck right in there with BIS. Since BAS is free they can seel a brand spanking new expansion to put OFP right back in the top slot. A simple expansion like this would definately stop me from giving a damn about &#39;Soldner: Secret Wars.&#39; Who agrees?

I love you BIS, I love you Marek, I love you all&#33;

[The Rocket]

I agree http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif
An expansion would be nice at this time, actually some words from BIS too&#33;

Does&#39;nt have to be a big campaign and alot of addons, just a small campaign with about 6-7 missions and a to-be-continued ending with some screens of current OFP2 http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

Actually i don&#39;t care about campaign, MP missions would be nice http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

[Hellfish6]

They&#39;re probably not gonna say anything until they want to. I&#39;m sure any announcement is going to be tied in with a press release from Codemasters (in fact, Codemasters is probably telling BIS not to say anything yet) and major gaming sites/magazines will get the scoop before we do. This is a business that they&#39;re running, remember.

So don&#39;t expect BIS to just pop up and say "Hi&#33; Looks like you found us out&#33; Here&#39;s the demo&#33;" If they wanted anyone to go to the Flashpoint2004.com site and know about the project, don&#39;t you think they&#39;d have told someone about it?

[SCFan42]

That littlebird on the ofp2 site could be the one on the OFP vietnam site, makes sense to me.
No, the tail on the MH-6 Littebird is different from the tail on the OH-6 Cayuse used in Vietnam.

[Noon416 (OFPEC)]

I wonder if anyone&#39;s considered that BIS might simply be looking to ...

a) migrate away from www.flashpoint1985.com (which is only relevant to OFP1)

b) centralise all their OFP & VBS sites into one easy location

... all to modernise their site & URL for when OFP2 comes out, and VBS2 comes into fruition?

Or am I not being conspiratorial enough for you all? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif

[scousejedi]

I wonder if anyone&#39;s considered that BIS might simply be looking to ...

a) migrate away from www.flashpoint1985.com (which is only relevant to OFP1)

b)  centralise all their OFP & VBS sites into one easy location

... all to modernise their site & URL for when OFP2 comes out, and VBS2 comes into fruition?

Or am I not being conspiratorial enough for you all? http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/wink_o.gif http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif
16 pages and thats all you come up with?

No mention of the moon landings or the Kennedy assassination.

For the record NO ONE as ever seen a BAS model of the Marie Celeste - I think that tells us everything we need to know.

[Hellfish6]

ROTFLMAO

[Fall0ut]

could those screenshots possibly be ofp2 shots?

[The Rocket]

Fallout it could be, we dont know for sure, could also be the XBOX version, with addons converted http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

[m21man]

Those units look too good to be on the XBox http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/tounge_o.gif . Also, if the XBox version is simply an altered version of Resistance, then there wouldn&#39;t be SF guys with M4s http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/biggrin_o.gif .

[The Rocket]

I&#39;m not sure, but it might be BAS addons converted to XBOX version, so the XBOX user dont have to download then, the addons are high quality http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif

[Mr ThunderMakeR]

They&#39;re probably not gonna say anything until they want to. I&#39;m sure any announcement is going to be tied in with a press release from Codemasters (in fact, Codemasters is probably telling BIS not to say anything yet) and major gaming sites/magazines will get the scoop before we do. This is a business that they&#39;re running, remember.
So they are sticking with Codemasters for OFP2? Ughh  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif

[RalphWiggum]

They&#39;re probably not gonna say anything until they want to. I&#39;m sure any announcement is going to be tied in with a press release from Codemasters (in fact, Codemasters is probably telling BIS not to say anything yet) and major gaming sites/magazines will get the scoop before we do. This is a business that they&#39;re running, remember.
So they are sticking with Codemasters for OFP2? Ughh  http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/crazy_o.gif
yup.

[Lt_Damage]

Interesting speculation...

I don&#39;t think BIS would work with BAS, they encourage the mod community not absorb them ;)

It seems to be that if you over-complicate this with conspiracy you lose sight of what might be just simple.

Here is my speculation, based on only information available to all of you, e.g the IL site, the News from BIS, and the recent FP2004 site.

Timeline:

Flashpoint / VBS1 (I forget which came first)
Resistance
News of IL worked on BIS AU
-IL was originally a Vietnam Era game. Originally the site held content of audio samples which had a soldier talking about what it&#39;s like in Nam, it was meant to give you an impression of the atmosphere Seventh&#39;s team were aiming for, rain etc.
IL Delayed
-Content removed from site, replaced with main picture showing mainly shots from VBS1. Here begins BIS&#39;s intentions for the next title, instead of releasing an expansion to Flashpoint similar to Resistance, David Lagettie&#39;s team would now postpone IL until the new engine is ready, which would be based on VBS1, hence the VBS1 screenshots. IL becomes an expansion to OFP2, based around east Timor conflict.
The Prague based team begin developement of the core engine.
News of Flashpoint 2
News of Flashpoint XBox
-Flashpoint XBOX uses 1.5 of the Flashpoint engine. This could be looked at as a testbed for technology that would end up in OFP 2. Since they hope to step up to the next level of graphics quality. If they hope to devote more memory resources to poly counts and textures they need to release the grasp on the memory resources that the islands currently have, introduce terrain streaming.
Due to the hardware limitations (e.g memory) of the XBOX much effort would be put into technology that allowed terrain to be streamed instead of all loaded at once. (There is no way an XBOX can load Nogova the same way your computer does, it doesn&#39;t have enough memory, the poor XBOX would be getting those out of memory errors and even -nomap won&#39;t help you )

The Core engine would of been designed anew and create the foundation for OFP 2.0
While the Prague team is busy with OFP XBOX, BIS AU work on the next generation of models and units, campaign etc.
OFP XBOX nearing completion, Flashpoint2 engine is highly developed and the game begins to take shape. A trailer is made, websites are commissioned. The OFP Community are mad with speculation...

[Mr. Snrub]

Great post there Lt. Damage, you might be right on target.

I get the feeling that what we&#39;re seeing here with these new screenshots may not pertain to any finished product, whether it be IL or OFP2 or a combination of the two. As Lt. Damage speculated, the units we&#39;re seeing may just be interim models created by BIS (perhaps BIA) in preperation for work on the main project/s.

It&#39;s hard to say at what stage of development OFP/IL is currently at, so it&#39;s rather premature to assume that these screenshots are representative of either project. Seeing &#39;desert/jungle/Russians/current US soldiers&#39; in the shots may be a hint at what will be ultimately included, but then again it may not. Amongst all the confusion, it is probably wise not to treat anything as definitive proof.

The screenshots themselves look fantastic, despite the fact that I don&#39;t really know what I&#39;m looking at. If these are close to what OFP2/IL will end up as, I&#39;ll be one happy camper. http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/smile_o.gif