BLACK HAWK DOWN

[TFR RLTW]

Its off topic but just to let anybody who dosent already know that, BLACK HAWK DOWN will be out Jan 18!
This will be the best war movie in history.

[M79]

Why?

The book was not even that consistant , I hope the screenplay is better scripted then the book.

[TFR RLTW]

Watch the trailer at Sonys site.

[WisdoM]

Nothing will ever be better than Full Metal Jacket my friend http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[residuum]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from WisdoM on 8:07 pm on Nov. 29, 2001
Nothing will ever be better than Full Metal Jacket my friend http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

I concur

[vitoal125]

The first half of Full metal jacket is pure genius, the second half was a regular Stanley Kubrick let down.

[WisdoM]

What do you consider the 2nd half, Like where does it start?

[DoubleTAP]

if you're interpreting film Kubrick's bizarre renditions included beginning middle end....not 1st half 2nd half.
It's all 3 act

1. Setting
2. Conflict
3. Resolution
I thought the ending did it's job of demonstrating the transformation we were primed for in the Parris Island Scenes.
Been awhile since i've seen a crappy Ridley Scott flick, I'll be excited to see what he can do with BHD.

[fixOPFsoundsplease]

Its got an Aussie comedian in it - but he did recently do a very violent non-comedy, "Chopper - Eric Bana..

You know the Little Birds and the like, with miniguns and all that, d*amn it will have some funny parts - probably before it gets into serious s**t, as they get gorey, wounded and killed.

For example, a guy riding out on a _cow_ to attack the Dboys and Rangers is minigunned by a little bird, with all the spectacular destruction one might imagine. That was funny, but it was at the start of the capture operation, not when they started getting dead soldiers.

This will be better than Full Metal Jacket I hope. Can't wait for this. I thought the book was riviting.

[X-ander[EPP]]

Full metal jacket consits or divides into two diferent parts,camp training and real combat,there is no begining,conflict or resolution....i thought this film was one of the films where you can most easily distinguish different parts....

[JoeSchmoe]

If we're looking at classic war films guys, then there are a few others you shouldn't forget...

Platoon,
Apocalypse Now (c'mon...who hasn't been tempted to play ride of the valkyries over broadcast comms),
Saving Private Ryan (for the D-day landings),
The Longest Day
The Eagle has Landed
The Great Escape
Tora Tora Tora
and, yep..Full Metal Jacket

That'll do for now methinks ;-)

JoeSchmoe

p.s. If anyone thinks pearl harbour is classic, then please, go and stand in the corner until you can make sense. Thanks. :-P

[762WorldOrder]

Saving Private Ryan is easily the best war movie ever.

No other war movie makes you sit there going "Fuuuuuck" for two straight hours the first time you see it.

I also like the fact that it didn't have the psycho-tangent weirdness of Scorsese or Kubrick, it was about normal men in a real war. That's what makes it great.

[Havelock]

Okay ... I'm going a bit arty and leftfield for my 'Best War Movie Ever' vote, but here goes ...

... xx ... Das Boot ... xx ...

Comments?

[maodiver]

I thought "All Quiet on the Western Front" was about the most realistic portrayal of war that I have ever seen. The old (1930's) b&w is best, but the newer one is great too, if only for the Ernest Borgnine.

[Charlie_McSheenie]

i don't like full metal jacket at all. the drill instructor is funny, the trainign funny, the war bit boring as f**k, made even worse by the ''well, heres what kubrick thought about vietnam'' parts. first half (training) is great, second half (war) is rubbish.


my best war movies:

1. stalingrad (german film) - very good, and seemingly very long, most of the main characters get killed brutally, and theres lots of cool street fighting, thats realistic, and its not about f**king yanks saving the allies single handedly with ex school teachers who have lovely wifes back home and hate the war. its germans vs the russians so its actually pretty interesting and makes a nice change from british/american movies

2. zulu - brilliant movie, not only very good, but its actually very exciting for an old movie. tense, thrilling, and realistic (the guys actually run out of ammo!!). makes 'ols skool' napoleon war much more exciting.

3. saving private ryan - its unrealistic and has america slagging off the british, but still, the fighting is brilliant, best ever seen in a war movie, lots of blood, gore and wicked camera work. lovely last fight bit. loses points for having the predictable ass american hero deaths though.

[Charlie_McSheenie]

i don't like full metal jacket at all. the drill instructor is funny, the trainign funny, the war bit boring as f**k, made even worse by the ''well, heres what kubrick thought about vietnam'' parts. first half (training) is great, second half (war) is rubbish.


my best war movies:

1. stalingrad (german film) - very good, and seemingly very long, most of the main characters get killed brutally, and theres lots of cool street fighting, thats realistic, and its not about f**king yanks saving the allies single handedly with ex school teachers who have lovely wifes back home and hate the war. its germans vs the russians so its actually pretty interesting and makes a nice change from british/american movies

2. zulu - brilliant movie, not only very good, but its actually very exciting for an old movie. tense, thrilling, and realistic (the guys actually run out of ammo!!). makes 'ols skool' napoleon war much more exciting.

3. saving private ryan - its unrealistic and has america slagging off the british, but still, the fighting is brilliant, best ever seen in a war movie, lots of blood, gore and wicked camera work. lovely last fight bit. loses points for having the predictable ass american hero deaths though.

[Sgt Hammer]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">saving private ryan - its unrealistic and has america slagging off the british, but still, the fighting is brilliant, best ever seen in a war movie, lots of blood, gore and wicked camera work. lovely last fight bit. loses points for having the predictable ass american hero deaths though. [/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

The British were f**k ups, take Operation Market Garden for example, Montgomery WAS over rated.

Predictable American hero? are you a complete moron? everybody from Tom Hank's squad DIED, including Hanks. Only Rieben lives...

Maybe if you can get past your anti American BS you could see that

[Die Alive]

I'm going to go with another Kubrick war movie and say PATHS OF GLORY as my favorite war movie.

-=Die Alive=-

[Viper365]

Anyone watch Behind Enemy Lines? I just saw it today. It's an awesome movie.

[residuum]

I saw it today as well. Great movie. Best of the year maybe. Plus, the scenery looks like OFP.

[Scooby]

War movies I like most are, stalingrad, tuntematon sotilas (unknown soldier), Talvisota (Winter War), Rukajärven tie (Ambush).

[Espectro]

Das Boot
Stallingrad
Full Metal Jacket

Saving private ryan was good, but it wasnt realistic at all.
For example...did u guys see they "forgot" to remove the "blank-stoppers" on the riffles they used...I was like.. ROFL!

Enemy at the gates, the part where they were in the ship and the part they just landed with their ships in Stalingrad.

[Charlie_McSheenie]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Sgt Hammer on 3:42 am on Dec. 1, 2001
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">saving private ryan - its unrealistic and has america slagging off the british, but still, the fighting is brilliant, best ever seen in a war movie, lots of blood, gore and wicked camera work. lovely last fight bit. loses points for having the predictable ass american hero deaths though. [/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

The British were f**k ups, take Operation Market Garden for example, Montgomery WAS over rated.

Predictable American hero? are you a complete moron? everybody from Tom Hank's squad DIED, including Hanks. Only Rieben lives...

Maybe if you can get past your anti American BS you could see that


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at least we didn't totally f**k up our beach landings, and didn't take a month to get off the beach afterwards, and took out most of hitlers air force, and joined the war when it started. we did much better than the americans on the beach landings (like taking on hitlers elite tank divisions afterwards while you all got nice and settled on the beach). The only thing america did for us was give us a few s**tty ass sherman tanks, food, and loads of soldiers, and the russians still won the war with hardly any of your help.

and montgomery won the campaign in africa. so he f**ked up market graden, you guys totally f**ked up omaha, and if you actually took the british help it would've been much less of a f**k up.

everyone in hanks squad died predictable ''no, your gonna make man, don't you worry'' deaths (well, most of them). or the, ''o well, i'm dying, lets show no fear and just fire pointlessly at the german tanks'' death.

[Albert Schweitzer]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from residuum on 9:32 am on Dec. 1, 2001
I saw it today as well.  Great movie.  Best of the year maybe.  Plus, the scenery looks like OFP.  
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Oh you have to wait a year till we Europeans can respond to that, that is what it takes to synchronise and promote the film (even if there is only BUM BAENG to synchronise).
From what I have heard it is a pure Pro-war film

[Charlie_McSheenie]

i haven't seen it yet, latest movie i saw was swordfish, and it was incredibly good, the first scene where the bombs go off is amazing, you see these people blow up, they have bombs strapped to them, and containers full of ball bearings. they explode and it go around them showing all the destruction (police are surrounding them). amazin, and you see halle berry's titties http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Charlie_McSheenie]

i haven't seen it yet, latest movie i saw was swordfish, and it was incredibly good, the first scene where the bombs go off is amazing, you see these people blow up, they have bombs strapped to them, and containers full of ball bearings. they explode and it go around them showing all the destruction (police are surrounding them). amazin, and you see halle berry's titties http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif john travlota and the other main character (one who palyed wolverine in x-men) are getting chased by jeeps in a TVR speed, and its a wicked chase, but john travolta get's out and get a SAW out, and blow up the jeeps, then they drive away, and while they're bombing through packed streets, travolta starts shooting up the jeeps again and they explode.


very, very, very good film. travolta is like he was in face off when he played caster troy - stupendously stylish and cool.

[TheSilkMan]

My vote is as follows:

1. Platoon(Most Realistic Nam movie)
2. Saving Private Ryine(Most Realistic WWII Movie)
3. Full Metal Jacket(Nice integrated training/street fighting)
4. Appocalypse Now(Twisted Movie-Cambodia and coastline fights were awsome.)
5. Hamburger Hill(Just plain descriptive/graphic)

No vote but worth the mention:
Band of Brothers episodes (Not really a movie but darn good scenes of what it was like to parachute from a plane with flak coming at ya)

[Charlie_McSheenie]

i've alwsys wanted to see hamburger hill, its supposed to be really violent

[Drewus]

No Ruskie, you did f**k up your beach landings http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Sending the Aussies to Anzac Cove to get slaughtered so that the Poms could walk onto the shores of Turkey without any resistance was one example.

I have nothing personally against the British, but you blow when it comes to having a gunfight.

[Equivicus]

Additional war movies to see if you haven't already:

A Bridge Too Far
The Great Escape
The Guns of Navarone
Force 10 From Navarone
Platoon
Where Eagles Dare
Kelly's Heroes (yes, I know hippies in WW2.. but its still funny, to me at least)
Patton
Das Boot (Jürgen Prochnow is cool)
Dirty Dozen
The Bridge at Remagen
The Bridge on the River Kwai
The Longest Day
Von Ryan's Express

[Charlie_McSheenie]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Drewus on 12:43 am on Dec. 2, 2001
No Ruskie, you did f**k up your beach landings http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Sending the Aussies to Anzac Cove to get slaughtered so that the Poms could walk onto the shores of Turkey without any resistance was one example.

I have nothing personally against the British, but you blow when it comes to having a gunfight.
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at least we hit the right stretch of beach.

[Charlie_McSheenie]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Drewus on 12:43 am on Dec. 2, 2001
No Ruskie, you did f**k up your beach landings http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Sending the Aussies to Anzac Cove to get slaughtered so that the Poms could walk onto the shores of Turkey without any resistance was one example.

I have nothing personally against the British, but you blow when it comes to having a gunfight.
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at least we hit the right stretch of beach. most of british military history has us kicking ass in firefights, from arrows to muskets to assault rifles

[Charlie_McSheenie]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Drewus on 12:43 am on Dec. 2, 2001
No Ruskie, you did f**k up your beach landings http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Sending the Aussies to Anzac Cove to get slaughtered so that the Poms could walk onto the shores of Turkey without any resistance was one example.

I have nothing personally against the British, but you blow when it comes to having a gunfight.
[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>


at least we hit the right stretch of beach. most of british military history has us kicking ass in firefights, from arrows to muskets to cannons to assault rifles. american (i assume your american) is far less impressive when it comes to firefights.

[fixOPFsoundsplease]

You might be American, British or German but you still pay the same 'landlord'.

Muamua!AHAHA!

[Teevor]

1. Zulu
2. Great Escape
3. Longest Day
4. Apocalypse Now
5. Bridge over the River Kwai

[Charlie_McSheenie]

yay, someone agree's that zulu is one kick ass film. Teevor is the best!

[King Kong]

Don't know about the movie
but the book sucked hard

[Havelock]

I presume you mean 'Black Hawk Down', not Zulu.

'Don't throw those bloody spears at me!'

[WisdoM]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Ruskie on 6:52 pm on Dec. 1, 2001
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Drewus on 12:43 am on Dec. 2, 2001
No Ruskie, you did f**k up your beach landings http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Sending the Aussies to Anzac Cove to get slaughtered so that the Poms could walk onto the shores of Turkey without any resistance was one example.

I have nothing personally against the British, but you blow when it comes to having a gunfight.
[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>


at least we hit the right stretch of beach. most of british military history has us kicking ass in firefights, from arrows to muskets to cannons to assault rifles. american (i assume your american) is far less impressive when it comes to firefights.
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Except when you throw a small band of farmers and militia at your "superb" army, I believe it was called teh American Revolution http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[WisdoM]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Ruskie on 6:52 pm on Dec. 1, 2001
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Drewus on 12:43 am on Dec. 2, 2001
No Ruskie, you did f**k up your beach landings http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Sending the Aussies to Anzac Cove to get slaughtered so that the Poms could walk onto the shores of Turkey without any resistance was one example.

I have nothing personally against the British, but you blow when it comes to having a gunfight.
[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>


at least we hit the right stretch of beach. most of british military history has us kicking ass in firefights, from arrows to muskets to cannons to assault rifles. american (i assume your american) is far less impressive when it comes to firefights.
[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

Except when you throw a small band of farmers and militia at your "superb" army, I believe it was called teh American Revolution http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[WisdoM]

ZBUMP, I want ruskie to see how big a fool he is, I have nothing against UK, but they arent s**t military wise compared to teh U.S. Their special Forces may be close, but thats only because they train teh same.

[Charlie_McSheenie]

our special forces are better. most of your special forces only began because of ex-sas guys who got exchanged to the US army (like the delta force).


and i believe we kicked your ass in the american revolution until the french bailed you out of it. if it weren't for them you would've been slaughtered completly.


(Edited by Ruskie at 12:24 am on Dec. 3, 2001)

[WisdoM]

Read a history book http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Charlie_McSheenie]

no, american history is boring, i'd prefer something with much more fighting (like ahem, british history, or pretty much any other countries history)

[WisdoM]

It makes me laugh how many people are anti-American, shows how ignorrant most if your country men are, most Americans arent Anti-any country. But since seeing losers such as yourself think your country is soooo great, it makes me take pride in my country, b/c I know there is no other AMERICA, unlike the whole Euopean nation, they are all ALIKE. Oh well, alot of you waste yoo much of your time worrying about why the U.S> does this and that, but in teh end your own country is f**king you behind your back, but your to d*amn worried about what us americans are doing. Oh well it feels good to see so many countries are worried about what us GOOD OL YANKS are doing.

[Charlie_McSheenie]

i'm not anti american, i started dissing them because another american says we british suck in firefights, other than that i said saving private ryan is ''america are all hero's, everyone else sucks'' propaganda, which it is

do you realise that people like you are the exact reason there are so many anti american people, you use any excuse to put down other countries and make your own seem like the best....

(Edited by Ruskie at 12:35 am on Dec. 3, 2001)

[WisdoM]

LMAO, OMFG......whatever Im not getting into with you, We can pla this blame game all day, like its your fault I say bad things about your country, b/c you tlak bad about mine then that gives me reason to talk bad about yours. What am I supposed to sit here and listen toy you throw out anti-american Bulls**t, f**k u Ruskie...how old are you again 13 or was it 15?

[Havelock]

Hmmm. You are (Mr Wisdom) accusing Europe of a homogeneity to a greater degree than the USA? I was born in the UK and have visited most of Europe's countries (and a few outside although I admit that I have not ventured across the pond yet) before settling in Budapest. I think you will find (have you been here?), that there are considerable differences between the nations (and even within nations).

[WisdoM]

havelock Im just pissed off in general b/c all I see in these forums are anti_american bastards everywhere, and Im sooo d*amn sick of the bulls**t they feed out. I mean why dont YOU QUIT WORRYING ABOUT WHAT THE U.S> DOES, I MEAN f**kING REALLY. How would you feel if everyday you come tto the forums, and yet there is a new thread talking down on the U.S., you dont see it for any other of the countired in here, and I tell you what tHERE are plenty of countries who do worse things than the U.S. but no one cares, you know why, cuz your all too dman worried about the U.S. once people drop their anti-american f**king bulls**t, Maybe then Ill calm down until then, yuou will continue to see me tell these fools how f**king stupid they are.

[Charlie_McSheenie]

so i made fun of an american war movie, to which an american said we british suck, so i start dissing the americans. how incredibly anti american off me.

f**k off and go sing your national anthem in front of loads of bored ass tourists.

and i'm 16, if i lived in america i'd probably be killed during english class (whoops, was that anti american, i'm so dreadfully sorry)

[Black Op]

Hollywood movies SuX0rZ

[WisdoM]

f**k YOU RUSKIE! I'm more proud im American now than I was beofre I read all of your stupid posts. Boy I'm glad http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Charlie_McSheenie]

what, so i dissed a hollywood movie, someone insulted britains history, so i insulted america for that, then you come along and start spouting out s**te about your country being the best and the whole worlds against you. stop whinging.

[WisdoM]

Theres certain people Id like to meet in real life, so I can show them what an AMERICAN face pounding feels like.

[Havelock]

Wisdom is proud he is American, Ruskie is proud he is British. Now both of you shut up ... and go to bed everyone (hey! I have a time zone disadvantage, but I think both of you need an early night)

[Charlie_McSheenie]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from WisdoM on 12:54 am on Dec. 3, 2001
Theres certain people Id like to meet in real life, so I can show them what an AMERICAN face pounding feels like.
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what, an quick smack round the face with a fake ass foot stamped punch and some drama about your girlfriend running off with the rock or triple H? that truly would hurt a lot.

i'd assume you'd rather just come after me during maths with an M60 though, like all the other american kids who have social problems

[Charlie_McSheenie]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from WisdoM on 12:54 am on Dec. 3, 2001
Theres certain people Id like to meet in real life, so I can show them what an AMERICAN face pounding feels like.
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what, an quick smack round the face with a fake ass foot stamped punch and some drama about your girlfriend running off with the rock or triple H? that truly would hurt a lot.

i'd assume you'd rather just come after me during maths with an M16 though, like all the other american kids who have social problems

[Drewus]

Ok lets just get one thing straight.

I'M NOT f**kING AMERICAN!!!!

I'm Australian for christ's sake. Why on earth would i point out a part of Australian history if i was American?

And actually it was the Poms who were shipping our troops to Gallipoli, not Australians. You went too far along the coast and thought that Anzac Cove was actually the right landing spot.

Look like i said, i have nothing against the British, or Americans for that matter but it annoy's me to see people talking about their own country's history without taking FACT into account.

[Charlie_McSheenie]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Drewus on 1:13 am on Dec. 3, 2001
Ok lets just get one thing straight.

I'M NOT f**kING AMERICAN!!!!

I'm Australian for christ's sake. Why on earth would i point out a part of Australian history if i was American?

And actually it was the Poms who were shipping our troops to Gallipoli, not Australians. You went too far along the coast and thought that Anzac Cove was actually the right landing spot.

Look like i said, i have nothing against the British, or Americans for that matter but it annoy's me to see people talking about their own country's history without taking FACT into account.
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your right, the brits did some s**tty things to the aussies. we've done s**tty things to a lot of people.....

(Edited by Ruskie at 1:15 am on Dec. 3, 2001)

[Drewus]

And as for this continuing pathetic argument over national pride. Can you both stop comparing d**k
sizes and just shut the #### up?

Please........

[MotherRussiaAK74]

A Bridge Too Far and Das Boot, great war movies..

By the way, THE s**ttiest war movie ever is Enemy at the Gates.

Second... to the chap who didn't like the second part, don't enlist.. war is boring.

(Edited by MotherRussiaAK74 at 1:48 am on Dec. 3, 2001)

[MotherRussiaAK74]

British Strategy in the revolution sucked. TAKE THE CAPITAL AND WE WIN! PIP PIP RULE THE WAVES AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF! Oh yeah, putting Burgoyn (A Shakespearian actor with no combat experience) in charge was stupid too. What's your excuse for the Irish Revolution too?

(Edited by MotherRussiaAK74 at 1:58 am on Dec. 3, 2001)

[JoeSchmoe]

The irish revolution?

I think the english missed it because they were in the pub. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Now please...I posted filmes cos I enjoy movies. What I don't enjoy is this absolute crap about who's better.

Wisdom...well done on bringing up the American Revolution...very mature.

Ruskie...you're no better either.

Both nations have done good and bad things. In the hope that you two will of you will be quiet, I ain't gonna mention them.

Now, the person who said Band of Brothers deserved a mention...Yes! I wholeheartedly agree. To the people who mentioned Stalingrad, Das Boot, Zulu and many others...A firm thumbs up and approval from here.

Now...before we move on, I want everyone to remember an important thing...both ruskie and wisdom are idiots, and I doubt either of them represent the best that their nation have to offer.

JoeSchmoe.

[King Kong]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from WisdoM on 12:42 am on Dec. 3, 2001
havelock Im just pissed off in general b/c all I see in these forums are anti_american bastards everywhere, and Im sooo d*amn sick of the bulls**t they feed out. I mean why dont YOU QUIT WORRYING ABOUT WHAT THE U.S> DOES, I MEAN f**kING REALLY. How would you feel if everyday you come tto the forums, and yet there is a new thread talking down on the U.S., you dont see it for any other of the countired in here, and I tell you what tHERE are plenty of countries who do worse things than the U.S. but no one cares, you know why, cuz your all too dman worried about the U.S. once people drop their anti-american f**king bulls**t, Maybe then Ill calm down until then, yuou will continue to see me tell these fools how f**king stupid they are.
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I know pal, what you expect me to put a American flag as my signature and tell everybody i would die for the US?

And stop calling everybody a fool here untill you make a real fool out of yourself.
I somewhat hate the US goverment, does that makes me an anti-American?



Your buttbuddy, King Kong

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A Bridge Too Far and Das Boot, great war movies..

By the way, THE s**ttiest war movie ever is Enemy at the Gates.

Second... to the chap who didn't like the second part, don't enlist.. war is boring.

(Edited by MotherRussiaAK74 at 1:48 am on Dec. 3, 2001)
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I like Stallingrad, good movie, you seen it?
Its in..... Stalingrad. (or what did ya think http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif)