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Sudan
May 8 2003, 15:56
from codemasters:

A lot of speculation has been thrown towards the
Vietnam Camp and yes, these rumours have been
partially correct, but on top of that (Vietnam
Theatre) we will have settings in Central Europe
and in Africa, all based in and around the 1970's. c

Gummi
May 8 2003, 17:00
what the....

where did u get that?

Sudan
May 8 2003, 17:08
here's the whole email:

Breaking Flashpoint 2 news -

Just had some breaking news, once again, regarding
Operation Flashpoint 2. I thought I would send out
a little mail to those interested about it, as my
newsletter isn't due out for another week and I
just couldn't wait to tell everyone the good news.

So what is this news?http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif Well we have finally
decided to put everyone out of their misery and
tell them the locations of the new Theatres of
conflict. Yep you heard right, Theatres!!!

A lot of speculation has been thrown towards the
Vietnam Camp and yes, these rumours have been
partially correct, but on top of that (Vietnam
Theatre) we will have settings in Central Europe
and in Africa, all based in and around the 1970's.

More details will follow next week in the new
edition of CCC, including news on IGI 2's two new
maps, and Battlefield Command's Q&A Session with
the Senior Game Designer.

Check out the website at
http://www.codemasters.com/flashpoint2


Mike

Michael Rowland
Community Liaison Officer
IGI2/Battlefield Command/Op Flashpoint
Codemasters
ccc@<hidden>

[SZ]Vladimir
May 8 2003, 17:08
In flashpoint2.com website http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Central Europe http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif maybe Switzerland http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Vladimir

Maraudeur
May 8 2003, 17:09
The 70&#39;s ??

Damned, this is not good new at all for interesting weaponry ingame.

But Africa, sounds good to me http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Gummi
May 8 2003, 17:19
i cant see anything new at the flashpoint2.com site http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

this will be the coolest game ever http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

theavonlady
May 8 2003, 17:26
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote ([SZ]Vladimir @<hidden> 08 May 2003,20:08)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Central Europe http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif maybe Switzerland[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
You mean BIS has purchased the Everon Cartel&#39;s Safe and Documents addon? http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

Gummi
May 8 2003, 17:27
lol http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

freddern
May 8 2003, 17:32
AFRIKA(map)s YIPPIIIII: Sounds soooooo good.
http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Ups. Probably gonna have to upgrade my pentium3 800mhz 256ram 32 graphics card computer. with all those palms and stuff. bummer. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

OFP ROCKS&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

Gummi
May 8 2003, 17:33
why do they always link to flashpoint2.com... there is nothing there new&#33;&#33;&#33; anyone?

Hellfish6
May 8 2003, 17:36
From The Wargamer (http://www.wargamer.com)

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Codemasters and Bohemia Interactive announced today the planned locations for their recently-announced sequel to Operation Flashpoint, Operation Flashpoint 2 (press release). The announcement is something of a surprise, as this is the first game in recent memory to focus on not one arena of combat, but actually three: Southeast Asia, Central Europe and Africa. The three zones of combat are centered around the 1970s and there are a number of distinct conflicts which occurred in that region at that time, most notably the Vietnam conflict. According to today&#39;s announcement, a major focus will in fact be on that conflict: "It’s also revealed that an important part of the main campaign will focus on events from the Vietnam war in late 60s, when US forces in South Vietnam numbered over half a million. Missions will see players engaging in solo action, commanding a squad, driving military vehicles, or taking to the air in authentic &#39;copters and planes. Weapons and military and civilian mobile units are being accurately modelled from period military data."

As for Central Europe and Africa in 1970, the two most relevant historical conflicts of the time were the 1968 invasion of Czechslovakia and the Cambodia civil war of the 1970s. On the other hand, developer Bohemia Interactive may choose to instead create a fictional set of related conflicts as they did with the original Operation Flashpoint. The previous game was set in 1985 on a set of former Russian islands, now sovereign, which had fallen under attack of the Soviet army by a rebel Russian general. That "flashpoint" theme is likely to repeat itself, although its unclear how Operation Flashpoint&#39;s storyline will link the three areas together.

Operation Flashpoint 2 (official web site) is scheduled for release in late 2004. The Wargamer will be on hand at the game&#39;s unveiling at this year&#39;s E3 exhibition next week.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

If you guys are at all interested to know, many very interesting conflicts were occurring in Africa in the &#39;70s - the Rhodesian War, the battle over Namibia (South Africa vs. Angolans, Cubans and terrorists) various other colonial battles (Mozambique - see the Colonial War mod) as well as all over North Africa with coups and terrorism.

I for one am super excited about this.

Edit: Some more speculation here, but I know several hundred Vietnam vets became mercenaries after the way, with many serving in the Rhodesian War (though they did not consider themselves mercenaries).

theavonlady
May 8 2003, 17:36
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Gummi @<hidden> 08 May 2003,20:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">why do they always link to flashpoint2.com... there is nothing there new&#33;&#33;&#33; anyone?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Hmmmm.......... maybe you need to clear your browser cache? http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

vortex3d
May 8 2003, 17:42
I hope they make a fun game out of it. I know that theatres of operations in Vietnam may be fun, but what would be the story? The US lost the war, and it wasn&#39;t a very technological one. I rather see some evolutionary type game. Command and Conquer style with OFP feel.

Gummi
May 8 2003, 17:46
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @<hidden> 08 May 2003,19:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Gummi @<hidden> 08 May 2003,20:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">why do they always link to flashpoint2.com... there is nothing there new&#33;&#33;&#33; anyone?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Hmmmm.......... maybe you need to clear your browser cache? http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
where do i do that?

haunted
May 8 2003, 17:59
Quoting Marek Spanel: "It’s also revealed that an important part of the main campaign will focus on events from the Vietnam war in late 60s"

Mellis
May 8 2003, 18:00
"The game’s mission-based campaigns will take gamers through fictional conflicts based upon authentic events during the years around 1970."

Not exacly what I had in my mind, I actully want to get rid of all the backflashes, http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif - There is to many games that got WorldWar2, Vietnam theme.. If they should select any backflash theme.. Why not take in GulfWar Crisis exampel (there is not many of that theme.. Hmmm I just know 1 game for that theme.. Lets see what more themes there are for recenlty crisis in the world shall we... ?&#33;

GAMEER_77
May 8 2003, 18:02
Excellent http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Jo Man Dragon
May 8 2003, 18:11
@<hidden>, maye you just have to change the station... http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Zeddicus
May 8 2003, 18:11
Central Europe? Could that mean that the Czechs in BI are planning to make us remake history by halting the Soviet incursion in 1968? Could be the most probable scenario.

akdavis
May 8 2003, 18:11
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Hellfish6 @<hidden> 08 May 2003,19:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">From The Wargamer (http://www.wargamer.com)

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Codemasters and Bohemia Interactive announced today the planned locations for their recently-announced sequel to Operation Flashpoint, Operation Flashpoint 2 (press release). The announcement is something of a surprise, as this is the first game in recent memory to focus on not one arena of combat, but actually three: Southeast Asia, Central Europe and Africa. The three zones of combat are centered around the 1970s and there are a number of distinct conflicts which occurred in that region at that time, most notably the Vietnam conflict. According to today&#39;s announcement, a major focus will in fact be on that conflict: "It’s also revealed that an important part of the main campaign will focus on events from the Vietnam war in late 60s, when US forces in South Vietnam numbered over half a million. Missions will see players engaging in solo action, commanding a squad, driving military vehicles, or taking to the air in authentic &#39;copters and planes. Weapons and military and civilian mobile units are being accurately modelled from period military data."

As for Central Europe and Africa in 1970, the two most relevant historical conflicts of the time were the 1968 invasion of Czechslovakia and the Cambodia civil war of the 1970s. On the other hand, developer Bohemia Interactive may choose to instead create a fictional set of related conflicts as they did with the original Operation Flashpoint. The previous game was set in 1985 on a set of former Russian islands, now sovereign, which had fallen under attack of the Soviet army by a rebel Russian general. That "flashpoint" theme is likely to repeat itself, although its unclear how Operation Flashpoint&#39;s storyline will link the three areas together.

Operation Flashpoint 2 (official web site) is scheduled for release in late 2004. The Wargamer will be on hand at the game&#39;s unveiling at this year&#39;s E3 exhibition next week.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

If you guys are at all interested to know, many very interesting conflicts were occurring in Africa in the &#39;70s - the Rhodesian War, the battle over Namibia (South Africa vs. Angolans, Cubans and terrorists) various other colonial battles (Mozambique - see the Colonial War mod) as well as all over North Africa with coups and terrorism.

I for one am super excited about this.

Edit: Some more speculation here, but I know several hundred Vietnam vets became mercenaries after the way, with many serving in the Rhodesian War (though they did not consider themselves mercenaries).[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
North Africa is part of Africa. The Suez Canal is in North Africa...

haunted
May 8 2003, 18:12
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Vietnam theme[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'> Vietcong..... and thats it.... I cant think of any other games of that sort.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">GulfWar Crisis [/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'> Desert Conflict. Conflict:Desert Storm. These are just off my head. There are more, Im sure.

How many games feature 3 different historical campaigns?? None, bold undertaking by BIS, cant wait to play it.

Heatseeker
May 8 2003, 18:14
Im even more confused and curious now http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif , 3 distinctive campaigns? how many islands, soldier models, vehicals, vegetation, houses, etc will we get? Will BIS be able to acomplish all this in such short time? Are all campaigns gonna be based on real life events? My dad was in colonial war in Angola, we were under dictature regime back then, so im really puzzled bout all this http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif , are they gonna mix reality and fiction in this game? It sounds BIG, perhaps too big... ill keep my faith considering how great they have done so far http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif .

Winters
May 8 2003, 18:15
Three theatres of combat in Operation Flashpoint 2 - 8.5.2003

Operation Flashpoint 2 will feature three different theatres of combat set in environments across Southeast Asia, Central Europe and Africa. Visit the official website at www.flashpoint2.com for more information.

[SZ]Vladimir
May 8 2003, 18:17
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @<hidden> 08 May 2003,19:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif8--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote ([SZ]Vladimir @<hidden> 08 May 2003,20http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif8)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Central Europe http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif maybe Switzerland[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
You mean BIS has purchased the Everon Cartel&#39;s Safe and Documents addon? http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I don&#39;t understand http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

Vladimir

Gollum1
May 8 2003, 18:28
BREAK OUT THE CHAMPAGNE&#33; http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif

I´m sorry for doubting you BIS, this will be the best game ever&#33; A partial and fictional Nam part is A-OK with me&#33;

And Central Europe...REV THOSE T72S UP&#33; http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Phew...man, you made my day.

Of course...I hope you get everything right, with 3 different climates and multiple factions. But I have faith&#33;

Spetsnaz [PELOPES]
May 8 2003, 19:21
1960-70 http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif? Bahhh... crappy
Vietnă http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif?? Damn... big crappy.... I&#39;m tired of Vietnă... these guys dont have imagination??? give me a break.... why 1970http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif why Vietnăhttp://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif why not.. modern combat 1990 - 2000... ... like... Chechenia... Kosovo... Gulf War.... Iraque.. Iran... Palestine... aaa I wont buy OFP this time..... http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

andersgrim
May 8 2003, 19:38
it sounds real great to me&#33;
And no matter what time it is - the modificationpossibilities will be amazing&#33;
You want modern war simulator? Wait half a year after the release, and i bet there are a thousands of mods making exactly that&#33; http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
Will any screenshots be published at the E3?
Or is it yet too early for screenshots?

can&#39;t wait can&#39;t wait can&#39;t wait can&#39;t wait can&#39;t wait can&#39;t wait

as said b4 "Gonna be the best game ever" http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

SFG
May 8 2003, 19:38
This will be one interesting storyline&#33;

edc
May 8 2003, 20:21
I&#39;ve got mixed amotions. I&#39;m happy there&#39;s more places then just vietnam, but my biggest problem with having it in vietnam was that it would be old weaponry. Hopefully they&#39;ll put code in so modern units can be added with modern technology. I do not want to be stuck back in the 70s.

Schoeler
May 8 2003, 20:30
I think repelling the soviet incursion into Czechloslovakia in 1968 would make for a very interesting campaign scenario, as would the brushfire wars in africa.

The engine itself is the most important aspect. Six months after release there will be campaigns about the Gulf War, Chechnya etc... The great mods we have now aren&#39;t going to go away folks, they are just going to get better. Who&#39;s to say they haven&#39;t started working on OFP2 stuff already?

[TU]$33ker
May 8 2003, 20:42
i think there will be a campaign for everyone. some vietnam for the US, some afghanistan for USSR, some african country liberation for the guerillas, and a classical NATO vs Warsaw Pact war in europe. at least i hope so&#33; http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif
this would be so great&#33;&#33;&#33; http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Necromancer-
May 8 2003, 21:31
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote ([TU]&#036;33ker @<hidden> 08 May 2003,22:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i think there will be a campaign for everyone. some vietnam for the US, some afghanistan for USSR, some african country liberation for the guerillas, and a classical NATO vs Warsaw Pact war in europe. at least i hope so&#33; http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif
this would be so great&#33;&#33;&#33; http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Hopefully we get to drive those Leopard 2 A5 tanks... http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Ever been in a Leopard 2 A5 tank??? ah man..... its cool..
Like a sardine in a can, only this time this can is made of composite armor. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
Too bad I didnt get to drive it. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

CBFASI
May 8 2003, 21:34
the leopard 2a5... we talkign 1970&#39;s here...

Leopard 1&#39;s
chieftains...
M60s and M48&#39;s
m113&#39;s

t62, t72, btr60, btr50, pt76, mi24a

this is a rough idea of what is around in the early 70&#39;s

ok we dont have the composite armours like today, this will make this a much more interesing period as a number of unoffical addons have covered the nwer kit, this way they are going for a range of kit that has not really been doen much yet.

Milkman
May 8 2003, 21:49
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Spetsnaz [PELOPES] @<hidden> 08 May 2003,14:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">1960-70 http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif? Bahhh... crappy
Vietnă http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif?? Damn... big crappy.... I&#39;m tired of Vietnă... these guys dont have imagination??? give me a break.... why 1970http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif why Vietnăhttp://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif why not.. modern combat 1990 - 2000... ... like... Chechenia... Kosovo... Gulf War.... Iraque.. Iran... Palestine... aaa I wont buy OFP this time.....  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
vietńa?? I think you need to learn how to spell Vietnam before you can bash BIS.  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Edit: anyways, this lifts my hopes, I would have bought OFP2 even if it was only Vietnam, but I am VERY happy Europe and Africa will also be included.  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

LaPoi
May 8 2003, 22:48
Maybe it is going to be another world war. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

ale2999
May 8 2003, 23:19
If u guys cant see anything change on main ofp2 page clear cache or press left shift button down while u go there (pressing enter)

CuteQA
May 8 2003, 23:21
SouthEast Asia.........mmm...............Independence lost...........maybe there are some relationship between them http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

RalphWiggum
May 8 2003, 23:25
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Sgt. Milkman @<hidden> 08 May 2003,23:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Spetsnaz [PELOPES] @<hidden> 08 May 2003,14:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">1960-70 http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif? Bahhh... crappy
Vietnă http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif?? Damn... big crappy.... I&#39;m tired of Vietnă... these guys dont have imagination??? give me a break.... why 1970http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif why Vietnăhttp://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif why not.. modern combat 1990 - 2000... ... like... Chechenia... Kosovo... Gulf War.... Iraque.. Iran... Palestine... aaa I wont buy OFP this time.....  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
vietńa?? I think you need to learn how to spell Vietnam before you can bash BIS.  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
different language, different spelling http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Azatoth
May 8 2003, 23:38
Idiotism....

OFP3 be in Medieval..... http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

Of course "Central Europe" - invasion of "Bad Russian" in Checz in 1968

Czacha
May 8 2003, 23:40
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Central Europe? Could that mean that the Czechs in BI are planning to make us remake history by halting the Soviet incursion in 1968? Could be the most probable scenario. [/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

I hope I won&#39;t have to fight against my own country (Poland).. beacuse Poland was involved in some actions in 1968.. It was called "Praska wiosna" (not sure how in eng.. but IMHO it should be "Prague&#39;s spring").

We will see... I bet on NATO vs Warsaw Pact (again something with Poland.. damn http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif )

Antichrist
May 8 2003, 23:42
I am pretty dissapointed about Vietnam, but pretty happy about Africa and Central Europe&#33;

Vikingo
May 8 2003, 23:59
Three diferent places&#33;&#33; Those are GREAT news for many of us that fears about Vietnam...

Quoting mytself in others posts:

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I fall in love with Flashpoint since the first pics and videos of 1998/99 and these unofficial news about a sequel in Vietnam put me sad. I think if the game is placed there the quantity of units will be really short. Charlie didn&#39;t have many hi tech weapons/vehicles for put in the game. Sure with the great engine OF2 will have the thing will be much different to any other game out there but I think is sad use all that power for a Nam game and not for use it in a fictional (or not) modern war simulation (ex: balkans) with many new vehicles and the ones inside OF but with many more details and better simulation (ex: machine gunner in tanks). Really I will miss the Red Army and the big quantity of units for each side and all the possibilities and fun that such thing give to us.  Maybe is to early for write all this but I just want to express the things I&#39;m feeling right now after these news. I love OF "1" since the first pics I saw (I thought on that times that "this thing will be BIG" and now all we know how big the things are)[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

and then (with a prophetic third-eye http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif ) I wrote...

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Maybe OF2 will have a campaing set in Vietnam and other ones at other places of the world showing different conflicts (real or not) Maybe is too much for ask but I hope it will be like that so we can have plenty of the actual units and many more. Like I said before,I think Vietnam is too restrictive, OF can&#39;t walk back in this way&#33; Sure jungle will be simulated in great way but I can&#39;t imagine OF2 with less units (and freedom) than the original one. It can&#39;t be&#33;&#33;&#33; Can&#39;t be. Hope you are right and BIS are laughing with our fears about OF2...[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

hehe&#33;&#33; so... Vikingo was not that wrong http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
And they laught of us for sure and that is great.

We will have other campaigns or missions in other places. So I&#39;m very happy that BIS will do this and now I can say that I feel exactly the same now than in the past and I can think again: "this thing will be BIG" and that put me very happy.
and the Red Army will be part of the game and is so nice (hope  this time radio voices will be full russian hehe little offtopic request) BIS will do it again&#33; Thumbs UP&#33;

                   Vikingo
  before part of the anti-Vietnam group, now part of the group happy with the three places that OF2 will have&#33;&#33; YEAH&#33;

Dr Lothrian Remar
May 9 2003, 00:41
Hmm, deep jungle warfare to open deserts in the 70&#39;s&#33;
I can&#39;t wait, and for all those worried about the old weapons

1: You&#39;ve just been playing with 20-year-old weapons in OFP
2: It will be a matter of weeks after OFP2 release before the Mod’s start coming i guess http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

If its using a similar engine, the ‘Mod God&#39;s’ shouldn’t take too long getting reacquainted.

Skunk Monkey
May 9 2003, 00:43
I&#39;m Happy http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Warin
May 9 2003, 01:35
Personally I prefer the historical conflicts to modern ones. After all, there really isnt a lot of &#39;combat&#39; in modern combat. It&#39;s mostly about air power. Call in the boys in blue, let them blow the crap out of everything, then mop up. Whee. So much fun.

The thought of a GOOD Vietnam game is pretty cool, as far as I am concerned. the fact that there will be three theaters of operation is amazing&#33;

fraggit
May 9 2003, 02:09
I was kind of dissappointed that it was going to be in Vietnam, but then again BIS is making it so....

BUT this is great news. Three theaters, wow... Although is anyone else worried the game might have the "impassible wall" since we&#39;re dealing with continents? Or did I miss something?

I agree with Warin, modern day combat is just jets bombing the shit out of stuff. But I have to admit, thermal imaging sounds kinda cool.

Col. Kurtz
May 9 2003, 03:23
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (fraggit @<hidden> 09 May 2003,12:09)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">BUT this is great news. Three theaters, wow... Although is anyone else worried the game might have the "impassible wall" since we&#39;re dealing with  continents? Or did I miss something?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Here is an interesting quote by Marek Spanel in a recent interview with OFP.Info
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Significantly larger maps will be definitely possible - we hope that the size of maps will not be really limited any more by anything else than map designers’ goals and skills.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

Hopefully that means they will be able to pull off some really really really big maps. But I still wouldn&#39;t be surprised if maps do have a limit on how big they can be. Maybe it will be like OFP1: When you travel pass the maps limits, you just continue across/over infinite water.

toadeater
May 9 2003, 03:52
Is Christopher Walken going to be in OFP2? http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005O06P.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

I like this idea of multiple theaters. As long as they&#39;re each given a good amount of complexity, such as weapons and vehicles for each setting.

My uneducated guess is that this is all going to involve Gastovski, in his early years. Or at least either a veteran turned special forces/agent, or otherwise some renegade mercenary guy. It even leads things open for Guba showing up on several occassions.

gonk
May 9 2003, 04:50
Looking Great.

A snippet from OFP2 site

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Experience the intensity of modern-historical warfare
Explore 3 large battlezones based on real locations covering Central Europe, Southeast Asia and Africa
Drive and fly authentic vehicles and aircraft
Command large squads with plenty of tactical and strategic options
Play the campaign or solo missions
Create your own mission and scenarios using intuitive built-in mission editor
Full multiplayer support

#####################

3 Large battle zones ?? how big ? this is looking fantastic. I am guessing all conflicts will be fictional to stop the history buffs having a heart attack. Thx for the early info BIS.

Hellfish6
May 9 2003, 04:50
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (akdavis @<hidden> 08 May 2003,13:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Hellfish6 @<hidden> 08 May 2003,19:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">From The Wargamer (http://www.wargamer.com)

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Codemasters and Bohemia Interactive announced today the planned locations for their recently-announced sequel to Operation Flashpoint, Operation Flashpoint 2 (press release). The announcement is something of a surprise, as this is the first game in recent memory to focus on not one arena of combat, but actually three: Southeast Asia, Central Europe and Africa. The three zones of combat are centered around the 1970s and there are a number of distinct conflicts which occurred in that region at that time, most notably the Vietnam conflict. According to today&#39;s announcement, a major focus will in fact be on that conflict: "It’s also revealed that an important part of the main campaign will focus on events from the Vietnam war in late 60s, when US forces in South Vietnam numbered over half a million. Missions will see players engaging in solo action, commanding a squad, driving military vehicles, or taking to the air in authentic &#39;copters and planes. Weapons and military and civilian mobile units are being accurately modelled from period military data."

As for Central Europe and Africa in 1970, the two most relevant historical conflicts of the time were the 1968 invasion of Czechslovakia and the Cambodia civil war of the 1970s. On the other hand, developer Bohemia Interactive may choose to instead create a fictional set of related conflicts as they did with the original Operation Flashpoint. The previous game was set in 1985 on a set of former Russian islands, now sovereign, which had fallen under attack of the Soviet army by a rebel Russian general. That "flashpoint" theme is likely to repeat itself, although its unclear how Operation Flashpoint&#39;s storyline will link the three areas together.

Operation Flashpoint 2 (official web site) is scheduled for release in late 2004. The Wargamer will be on hand at the game&#39;s unveiling at this year&#39;s E3 exhibition next week.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

If you guys are at all interested to know, many very interesting conflicts were occurring in Africa in the &#39;70s - the Rhodesian War, the battle over Namibia (South Africa vs. Angolans, Cubans and terrorists) various other colonial battles (Mozambique - see the Colonial War mod) as well as all over North Africa with coups and terrorism.

I for one am super excited about this.

Edit: Some more speculation here, but I know several hundred Vietnam vets became mercenaries after the way, with many serving in the Rhodesian War (though they did not consider themselves mercenaries).[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
North Africa is part of Africa.  The Suez Canal is in North Africa...[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
You could very well be right... but I always thought most people referred to that area as the Middle East, because I dare you to find an Egyptian who will call himself an African. North Africa is very, very different from sub-Saharan Africa.

edc
May 9 2003, 04:52
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Experience the intensity of modern-historical warfare
[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

Hmm, I wonder what that &#39;modern&#39; means?

Hellfish6
May 9 2003, 04:55
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (toadeater @<hidden> 08 May 2003,22:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Is Christopher Walken going to be in OFP2? http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005O06P.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

I like this idea of multiple theaters. As long as they&#39;re each given a good amount of complexity, such as weapons and vehicles for each setting.

My uneducated guess is that this is all going to involve Gastovski, in his early years. Or at least either a veteran turned special forces/agent, or otherwise some renegade mercenary guy. It even leads things open for Guba showing up on several occassions.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
GOOD MOVIE&#33; (And book)

akdavis
May 9 2003, 04:59
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (edc @<hidden> 09 May 2003,06:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Experience the intensity of modern-historical warfare
[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

Hmm, I wonder what that &#39;modern&#39; means?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
That it&#39;s not going to be about Napoleonic warfare...

GoOB
May 9 2003, 07:09
The 70&#39;s in Africa must mean the start of the Congo civil wars right? or Nigeria or something. But they did say the conflicts would be fictional.... Well i can hope for Congo, then we&#39;d see some Swedish units ah sweet M70 camo Ak4&#39;s ,Mausers and KSP bil (Machinegun truck) My mouth is watering already&#33;

WhoCares
May 9 2003, 07:40
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Dr Lothrian Remar @<hidden> 09 May 2003,02:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">2: It will be a matter of weeks after OFP2 release before the Mod’s start coming i guess http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I&#39;m sure you meant after the demo release http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
You know, it&#39;s winter in Scandinavia almost all the year, so what else can Kegetys and the others do??? http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Harley-Davidsen
May 9 2003, 08:58
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Dr Lothrian Remar @<hidden> 09 May 2003,02:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hmm, deep jungle warfare to open deserts in the 70&#39;s&#33;
I can&#39;t wait, and for all those worried about the old weapons

1: You&#39;ve just been playing with 20-year-old weapons in OFP
2: It will be a matter of weeks after OFP2 release before the Mod’s start coming i guess http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

If its using a similar engine, the ‘Mod God&#39;s’ shouldn’t take too long getting reacquainted.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Who told you that BIS is going to realese a Oxygen or other MOD TOOL`s. Because they a using a new engine in OFP2 i think all mods in OFP1 aint going to be playeble in OFP2 http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

Col. Kurtz
May 9 2003, 09:09
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Harley-Davidsen @<hidden> 09 May 2003,18:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Who told you that BIS is  going to realese a Oxygen or other MOD TOOL`s. Because they a using a new engine in OFP2 i think all mods in OFP1 aint going to be playeble in OFP2  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
OFP2 is going to use the OFP1 engine in a modified form so it is not totally new, and BIS have stated that they want to get mod tools out pretty quick and that they are trying to make OFP1 addons compatible with OFP2.

I&#39;m thinking of the fun that could be had mixing modern add-ons with OFP2... Driving around Vietnam in 1968 in an M1A2 Abrahms or a T-90. Flying over the deserts of North Africa in a MiG-29...

haunted
May 9 2003, 09:15
Some people just dont read...

[CCCP]Stalker
May 9 2003, 09:21
Cool. We will be fighting with flint pistols, rocks etc. At least if European campaign will be about USSR invading Checz and you&#39;ll be playing as soviet soldier it will be the day of my revenge. "Tremble mortals &#33; The doom has come to your world"
Oh at least our T55 pack will fit the game era... http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif
I HATE OFP2 IN OLD ERA &#33;&#33;&#33;

Harley-Davidsen
May 9 2003, 09:51
wait a minute. Are there going to be a 3 different campain?

GoOB
May 9 2003, 10:09
Yes, and i dont care about the era since the modders can supply us modern stuff. And how many add-ons do you see that fit the 1985 theme? Not many. All i hope for is a KSP bil http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Ex-RoNiN
May 9 2003, 10:37
Who cares about the era - you get to shoot people with guns, tanks, and aircraft. What else do you want http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

BIS have stated in the past that they want the old addons to be compatible with OFP2, so if you don&#39;t like the 70&#39;s you can just keep on playing with the BAS toys if you so wish http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Spetsnaz [PELOPES]
May 9 2003, 14:59
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @<hidden> 09 May 2003,01:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Sgt. Milkman @<hidden> 08 May 2003,23:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Spetsnaz [PELOPES] @<hidden> 08 May 2003,14:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">1960-70 http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif? Bahhh... crappy
Vietnă http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif?? Damn... big crappy.... I&#39;m tired of Vietnă... these guys dont have imagination??? give me a break.... why 1970http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif why Vietnăhttp://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif why not.. modern combat 1990 - 2000... ... like... Chechenia... Kosovo... Gulf War.... Iraque.. Iran... Palestine... aaa I wont buy OFP this time..... http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
vietńa?? I think you need to learn how to spell Vietnam before you can bash BIS. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
different language, different spelling http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Tks man... before I say something bad to him... http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif


http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[]&#39;s

CuteQA
May 9 2003, 15:44
are we going to have more than two countries&#39;s units??? http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

SpeedyDonkey
May 9 2003, 15:54
Doesn´t this mean BIS has to do three times more modelling job? Not a coincidence that they scratch every one together including BIA to work with this http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Buggs
May 9 2003, 16:01
Do you think if Bis are starting OFP2 in the 70&#39;s, that Subsequent Expansion packs will cover the remaining Decades i.e. one that covers conflicts in the 80&#39;s, then one that cover&#39;s the 90&#39;s etc. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Speeeedy
May 9 2003, 16:13
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Spetsnaz [PELOPES] @<hidden> 09 May 2003,16:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @<hidden> 09 May 2003,01:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Sgt. Milkman @<hidden> 08 May 2003,23:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Spetsnaz [PELOPES] @<hidden> 08 May 2003,14:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">1960-70 http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif? Bahhh... crappy
Vietnă http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif?? Damn... big crappy.... I&#39;m tired of Vietnă... these guys dont have imagination??? give me a break.... why 1970http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif why Vietnăhttp://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif why not.. modern combat 1990 - 2000... ... like... Chechenia... Kosovo... Gulf War.... Iraque.. Iran... Palestine... aaa I wont buy OFP this time.....  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
vietńa?? I think you need to learn how to spell Vietnam before you can bash BIS.  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
different language, different spelling http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Tks man... before I say something bad to him...  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif


http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[]&#39;s[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
What your still doing here? your not going to buy OFP 2 anyway remember http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

zverushka
May 9 2003, 19:44
Oh goody, now the czechs are gonna halt the soviet invasion, even though in real life, the warsaw pact only lost one man, a bulgarian, from enemy fire, and then the glorious czech army under their victorious leader shall march onto moscow and be greeted with food and flowers.

I seriously will regain my faith in BIS if they don&#39;t depict russians as baby-eating rapist animals

Heatseeker
May 9 2003, 20:08
Oh-uh&#33; Voice acting&#33;&#33;&#33; will OPF2 have vietnamese and african ppl speaking english only http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif ? Will we be able to play with african, north vietnamese, european,russian and american units and soldiers? sounds like a 3 in 1 game, how many units, vehicals and other equipment will they need to develop? And if they are doing 3 small campaigns we will loose the immersive efect from 1985 and resistance http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif , i would rather have 1 big campaign with many missions on diferent scenarios were we would play diferent roles in combat, to see character evolution throu the campaign, i wouldnt like to have small campaigns were we just do some little fighting and thats it http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif , a good campaign needs atleast 20 missions, will OPF2 come with 60 missions plus some other 10 sp missions http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif hmmm...

Dubble0zero
May 9 2003, 20:49
I just hope that they are making diffrent languages too, it would be really bad if it was like so many other games and movies that everybody is speaking english (sometimes with accent)...
But since BIS made that good last time, mabye I shouldn&#39;t have to worry... http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Cannon Fodder
May 9 2003, 21:56
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (zverushka @<hidden> 09 May 2003,20:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Oh goody, now the czechs are gonna halt the soviet invasion, even though in real life, the warsaw pact only lost one man, a bulgarian, from enemy fire, and then the glorious czech army under their victorious leader shall march onto moscow and be greeted with food and flowers.

I seriously will regain my faith in BIS if they don&#39;t depict russians as baby-eating rapist animals[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Damn straight. They have to treat the Russian soldiers with some respect this time - instead of making them into some kind of all pervasive pantomime villain.

DnA
May 10 2003, 01:14
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">If u guys cant see anything change on main ofp2 page clear cache or press left shift button down while u go there (pressing enter).[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

You can also try to hold your Ctrl-key and then press F5. This should completely reload the page and not use any previously stored material http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

PFC_Mike
May 10 2003, 05:34
hmm. Well, I&#39;m willing to bet that it will tie in to the whole "OFP Official Plotline."

Gastovski had a long career as a special forces soldier. I can totally believe that he was in Nam. As for Africa, I&#39;d lean closer to "Advisor" than "Merc." If I&#39;m not mistaken, the CIA was involved in the Biafran war? I think that Central Europe is going to be Nogova etc. in reference to the events of "30 years before" in Resistance.


The only thing I don&#39;t get is Africa. It just doesn&#39;t seem to tie in.

CuteQA
May 10 2003, 06:44
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (PFC_Mike @<hidden> 10 May 2003,09:34)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">hmm. Well, I&#39;m willing to bet that it will tie in to the whole "OFP Official Plotline."

Gastovski had a long career as a special forces soldier. I can totally believe that he was in Nam. As for Africa, I&#39;d lean closer to "Advisor" than "Merc." If I&#39;m not mistaken, the CIA was involved in the Biafran war? I think that Central Europe is going to be Nogova etc. in reference to the events of "30 years before" in Resistance.


The only thing I don&#39;t get is Africa. It just doesn&#39;t seem to tie in.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
That&#39;s a good idea http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Also, dont forget Victor Troska, he is James old war pal.
do u  guys remember james said "just like old days" to Victor in resitance  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
It would be cool to see young Victor and James in ofp2  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Hope the ofp developers will read this  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Bucket man
May 10 2003, 11:43
Sounds good to me altough I have couple of conserns.
One of the things that I liked in OFP was freedom to drive, fly and walk in such a big area without limitations.
If OFP2 is going to be in Vietnam or Europe they cant use islands as realistic limitation.
One of the options would be to make OFP similar to SOF2 where you run in a pipe. Thats not good at all as it takes lots of freedom away.

I seriously hope that BIS will find another solution so that we can have big areas to play with and similar freedom as in OFP.

Cannon Fodder
May 10 2003, 12:41
One of the biggest draws of Operation Flashpoint was the level of freedom it offered to the player. I remember being amazed by the fact that missions could take place over huge area - anyone who played the &#39;demo&#39; missions (missions coded for the demo using FPEdit and the such like) would agree that first playing a mission that used the whole of the (admittedly undeveloped) island was mind-blowing. I can remember playing &#39;Dragunov&#39;, hiking (or driving, but it was too risky) into the mountains of Malden and trying to get the best angle on the target by running all around the hills surrounding Dourdan. No other game has allowed me that freedom, and that&#39;s perhaps why I bought the game.

In terms of having an &#39;on-rails&#39; experience, it could provide for a much more tight, scripted affair ensuring that nothing could go wrong in the missions (such as enemy units appearing at the right time, in the right place etc.) but you lose the freedom it affords. Restrictions on where you can go would ensure the player couldn&#39;t use his/her own initative in completing a mission - something Op. Flash has always excelled in.

colt
May 10 2003, 12:52
I completely agree with you Bucket man.

One of the reasons why OFP is such a landmark game is the freedom the player is given. I hope OFP 2 has natural boundries such as the originals ocean / sea.

The thought of running into a &#39;wall of trees,&#39; an unclimbable mountain, an uncrossable canyon gorge or running to one end of the map and re-emerging at the other end ( ok for planes) would seriously Do. My. Head. In.  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif

Still BIS&#39; mention of terrain streaming is interesting. I just want my freedom , man  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Thud_and_Blunder
May 10 2003, 13:45
1970s? Fantastic&#33; If I had the modding skills I&#39;d be sorting out a Dhofar campaign mod right now, but it&#39;ll be worth seeing if OFP2 contains the material to allow me to put the basics together. It&#39;d get around the perennial problem of not being able to dig-in with the current engine, too (the jebel being too hard in Oman; building sangars took the place of burrowing below ground...). The ideal campaign in many ways; limited air support ops, conventional tps (including an Iranian brigade), irregulars and SF ops. Could be some problems with modelling the very steep terrain, though...

Now, if only Oberon can be persuaded to finish his Ferret and Wessex, then put together a Saladin, some 25lb-ers and a 5.5" for OFP1...

CBFASI
May 10 2003, 14:49
Being 1970&#39;s based this is going to work very very well with the Falklands Mod, most of our kit in the mod is in effect 1970&#39;s kit, with a few exceptions.

We already have the infantry weapons, most of the ships are from the 70&#39;s or earlier, the vehicles will be valid for the 70&#39;s too.

Although there have been recent wars, remember the 70&#39;s was the height of the &#39;cold war&#39; and also the end of the last of the old colonial empires.  There was actaulyl a greater range of kit around, and it was better balanced with only a few contries having kit that was significantly better than that used by others.

I see this to be a good sign as its going to come not down to what your using but how you use it, which will mean a greater challenge.

I think one reason that this 70&#39;s era is not so popular with soem is that they dont know what happened in the 70&#39;s. I only know because I study military history. Most of the younger generation (no insult intended guys) don&#39;t look that far back, for quite a number its one or two generations ago...

gore
May 10 2003, 18:02
Maby bis will get around the invisable wall problem with some sort of randomly generater hills and vegitation which goes on forever like the sea in ofp does? maby it would be possible with thier improved streaming? http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

DpS
May 10 2003, 20:37
I think Vietnam will be a cool background for ofp 2. I like jungle and guerilla stuff. However, hearing what Merek said;that he wants fans to mod more than ofp 1 i am happy with this. But the sad thing i hate is that vietnam limits the number of gadgets weapons and planes that we can use. I hope BIS will allow people to give more addon so we can play current stuff

ExtracTioN
May 11 2003, 00:13
I hope they make later a upgrade for OFP2 with modern Era stuff like Desert Storm or Black Hawk Down that would be awesome http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Eviscerator
May 11 2003, 01:29
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No, it wouldnt, Black Hawk Down would be far too linear a mission for ofp, it would lag from all the AI not to mention the poly count from the city itself, BHD in ofp or ofp2 is a bad bad idea...

And Desert Storm was a relatively boring war, it only saw 100 hours of ground warfare, with a lot of it just having the Iraqi&#39;s surrender, also it would be really easy if made realisticly as the balance on the sides is enourmously in favour of the Iraqi&#39;s...

LaPoieto
May 11 2003, 01:57
Well in OFP land they could just have evil Guba break out of Jail and be one of Saddam&#39;s generals. Then it would be interesting. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

PFC_Mike
May 11 2003, 07:22
Oh come on. I don&#39;t care if you&#39;re Russian or otherwise but you can&#39;t rape a baby and eat it at the same time. It&#39;s just not possible and you should know better zverushka.

It took me so long to figure out I shouldn&#39;t just rip into Guba with my XM-177.

Anyway, it&#39;s going to be interesting however BIS decides to tackle the border problem. This is really offtopic (like most of my reply) but it&#39;s still good. Anyway, Warren Spector of Deus Ex and System Shock 2 fame said that character interaction was the hardest part of FPS/RPG design so for SS2 they just killed everyone on the station. For OFP1, they just made the water infinite and besides, you couldn&#39;t swim.


Anyone know where most US SF troops in Vietnam were operating in 1968 or so?

ZIKAN
May 11 2003, 13:05
Africa is the theatre that I am most curious about, and anticipating the most. How it will be incorporated into any overall story is quite a puzzle. However I am guessing it may involve diamonds....

"Across vast stretches of Africa, diamonds fuel war. Diamonds are so lucrative for predatory governments and marauding rebels that war has become a useful cover for hugely profitable smuggling enterprises"
For the better part of the last 50 years, the cold war and the white-minority governments of southern Africa injected cash and arms into regional wars.

In Africa here we have the cold war again, East v West:
The Central Intelligence Agency, for instance, supported Unita in the early 1970&#39;s and again in the late 1980&#39;s. The Marxist government of Angola received military assistance from the Soviet Union and up to 50,000 troops from Cuba. When the C.I.A. was not helping Unita, the rebels got military backup from white-ruled South Africa.
Both &#39;East and West&#39; were in some form or another supplying money and weapons and &#39;expertise&#39; to the war torn countries of Africa, adding fuel to the fire so to speak... http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

suffocating_alien
May 11 2003, 13:17
cant say im particulary pleased that its going to be set around the 70&#39;s, its a bit of a backstep for me, i think they should have expanded on the game and brought it up to date even more, the game has so much potential and i fell that it will go to waste in this era.

For a start its not far enough back from original flashpoint to have any novelty impact in useing older style weapons like WW2 classics had like MOHAA, BF1942 etc, im not saying it should be ww2 either thats been done a thousand times, and going back will just frustrate players , taking away our blackhawks etc etc. at least if they brought it foreward we could dtill have all the old vehicles and some new ones, the whole game could get the technological feel to it which i feel is where it lost out to ghost recon in a few places.

upon saying that BI didnt dissapoint me with my long wait for original flashpoint so i put my trust in them, they must know what they are doing.

Eviscerator
May 11 2003, 13:46
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (suffocating_alien @<hidden> 11 May 2003,15:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">For a start its not far enough back from original flashpoint to have any novelty impact in useing older style weapons like WW2 classics had like MOHAA, BF1942 etc, im not saying it should be ww2 either thats been done a thousand times, and going back will just frustrate players , taking away our blackhawks etc etc. at least if they brought it foreward we could dtill have all the old vehicles and some new ones, the whole game could get the technological feel to it which i feel is where it lost out to ghost recon in a few places.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
A lot of WW2 era weapons were used in Vietnam, if not by the americans than by the ARVN (south vietnamese) or the VC/NVA, so if BIS make it right there should be a shitload, out of the weapons i can remember being used:

M1 Carbine, M1A1 Carbine, M2 Carbine, M1911A1, M1919A4, M1919A6, BAR, M2 .50, M1A1 Thompson, M3A1 Grease Gun, M1 Garand, PPSh 43, PPS 41, DP Machine gun, DShK .50 cal, Mosin Nagant, SVT 40, MP44, MP40, MG34, Maxim MG, Tokarev, K98, DPM, SG43...and i cant remember any more...but that should satisfy your WW2 urges, they were all used during the Vietnam War...

rufusmac
May 12 2003, 00:30
Maybe, maybe, maybe... the october war (1973).  Some of the largest tank battles in history across the sinai desert.  Fantastic assortment of western and warsaw pact equipment...


it.. would... be... awesome   http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Major Fubar
May 12 2003, 02:08
It would be nice after the relase of OFP2 if they included multi-era expansions - modern day, WW2, WW1 etc. although I guess this is more likely to be done by mod teams than by BIS themselves.

booradley60
May 12 2003, 02:08
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">rufusmac Posted on 12 May 2003,02:30
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Maybe, maybe, maybe... the october war (1973). Some of the largest tank battles in history across the sinai desert. Fantastic assortment of western and warsaw pact equipment...
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That would be awesome. Throwing back the entire Arab world (outnumbering you in armor at least 9 to 1) off of your doorstep and saving Israel... destroying the Syrians in the Golan Heights and beating the Egyptians back across the Sinai... (God, I hope I&#39;m talking about the right war...)

scario
May 12 2003, 08:26
Hmm...
I think that the problem with different areas in the game is that we wont have a nice continuing story, like in 1985 or Resistance. Not very nice...

Well, gotta hope that they make it up somehow...

Supah
May 14 2003, 00:07
Well in the end all that would matter are the engine improvements right? I mean any modern weapons you would want can and will be made by the modding community, but now with cool new OFP2 features. Especially if they make addons backwardly compatible, wasnt that said by the developers? And though i am not that interested in vietnam central europe and africa sound good enough http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Acecombat
May 14 2003, 00:29
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (rufusmac @<hidden> 12 May 2003,02:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Maybe, maybe, maybe... the october war (1973).  Some of the largest tank battles in history across the sinai desert.  Fantastic assortment of western and warsaw pact equipment...


it.. would... be... awesome   http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Yes yes this is more like it except that this time US wont stick its long nose in and Egypt and Syria get Russian tanks and then we play http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Blake
May 14 2003, 05:42
Most excellent choises by BIS&#33; I&#39;m especially interested in Africa as it provides endless oppoturnities for mercenary action and interesting terrain. I don&#39;t know why people keep bashing Vietnam, few mediocre games have come out about that conflict and they are very shallow in the end. Hardly doing justice to that very fascinating war.

Central Europe is a big question mark, full-scale Soviet assault into West-Germany or Czech invasion of 1968?

Blake
May 14 2003, 05:45
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (scario @<hidden> 12 May 2003,11:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hmm...
I think that the problem with different areas in the game is that we wont have a nice continuing story, like in 1985 or Resistance. Not very nice...

Well, gotta hope that they make it up somehow...[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Actually it is much much better this way - you get 3 different plots, at least 3 different main characters and vastly different situations and plot lines in which you have to adapt to. Almost like getting 3 different games in one.

It would be stupid to have some uber-macho Gastowski jumping around Europe, Africa and Vietnam.

Hit_Sqd_Maximus
May 15 2003, 00:47
New email from codemasters

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Bringing you the latest Action, Stealth and Strategy
News

INTRODUCTION

Another month and another newsletter&#33;&#33;&#33; This is the
second instalment of the CCC newsletter which debuted
last month, which some of you may have missed. Shame
on you http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif This is aimed to give a bit more insight
into up and coming Action games that we are
developing/publishing and share some news from the
development side of things. I may even get out some
screenshots&#33;&#33;

It has been quite a hectic month as most of you may
have gathered. Not only did we release the new IGI 2
Map but there has been much speculation regarding the
newly announced Operation Flashpoint 2 title.
Alongside this there has been many a question thrown
my way about Battlefield Command, which is dealt with
later in the letter.

So lets get to it...

IGI 2 - COVERT STRIKE - LATEST NEWS

Well believe it or not, the guys at Innerloop have
been working very hard on producing not one, but two
maps this month. This is why it has taken a little
longer then expected to release them. Some of you may
have already seen the Libyan Village screenshots
floating around the net, but we also have a map based
at the Docksides. The plan is to release these 2 maps
as Beta maps so that we can get feedback on them, and
iron out any bugs found.

Alongside this we are planning on releasing the Linux
Server and testing this simultaneously. This has been
worked on some more over the last few weeks after
getting initial feedback on the first candidate, which
as we expected was a bit buggy.

Due to this and the predicted influx of potential bug
reports etc, the beta forum was re-opened a few weeks
ago, so that any problems concerning the maps and
server could be posted here. That way I can collate
the info and report it.
http://www.codemasters.com/igi2

IGI 2 HOT TOPICS -

I know a few of you are eagerly waiting to get your
grips on the new Map Editor. I have word that the guys
are concentrating fully on this after the release of
the two maps. They apparently need to design a
tutorial on how to operate it. Sounds a bit difficult
to me but then again Im no Modder. An exact date on
the release of this tool is unknown at present but
rest assured I will tell you when it is available.



OPERATION FLASHPOINT 2 - LATEST NEWS

Well what can I say....its on its way and has
finally been put into development at Bohemia
Interactive Studios. The sequel to the award winning
Operation Flashpoint has been clouded in secrecy
regarding its location and time setting. But today
is the day that I can finally reveal to you where
the next game will be set. Unless you are at E3,
consider this an exclusive http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Now there has been much speculation from the community
on both the BIS Forums and on the Codemasters Forums
with many a poll running on potential locations. The
result showed that Vietnam was the most likely
scenario but not necessarily the most wanted. This
wasnt to be expected, but its not a perfect World.
So you may be shocked or not to hear that one of the
Theatres of War will have a Southeast Asia setting. So
in some ways most of you guessed right, but as you may
have just picked up that is just one of three Theatres
of War. Instead of one setting we thought we would
spoil you and give you a mix of landscapes, weapons
and missions.

The game will still strongly focus on the Nam setting
but also include the other original Theatres to vary
the combat environments. So what are the other
Theatres I hear you asking? Well there will be a
Central Europe Theatre setting as well as an African
Theatre. All will be based around the 1970s so not
quite as modern as some wanted but it will still have
that original Flashpoint feel.

You can chat to other fans live at the Quakenet IRC
Channel #flashpoint2

Also check out the forums at Codemasters Flashpoint2
Forum:
http://community.codemasters.com/forum....mid=167 (http://community.codemasters.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=167)

or at BIS Flashpoint2 Forums here:
http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard301/ikonboard.cgi

If you havent already you can sign up and register
your interest at http://www.codemasters.com/flashpoint2

FLASHPOINT 2 HOT TOPICS -

The forums have been so busy since the original news
release that Flashpoint 2 was in development. As
mentioned above the hot topics have revolved around
the setting for the game, plus ideas of how to further
improve the Flashpoint Series.


BATTLEFIELD COMMAND - EUROPE AT WAR 1939-45 - LATEST
NEWS

Well as I promised last month heres the Q&A session
that I took with Andrew Wafer, Senior Games Designer
on Battlefield Command. I have to thank all the guys
on the forums for their questions, of which there were
many ranging in topic. I will answer a few now and
some more next month. Keep them coming and Ill try to
keep on top of them.
http://www.codemasters.com/battlefieldcommand


Q&A SESSION -
The layout is as follows. The questions are quoted
from each person and then followed by the answer from
Andrew Wafer.

"Rummy - Ok I&#39;ll go. How much individual control of
units will we have?"

Andrew Wafer: Your units are fully under your control,
sure they can think for themselves and some are
naturally smarter than others, but at the end of the
day youre the Battlefield Commander. You can issue
them with many different orders like telling them to
attack strong targets over weak targets, or take
longer to aim, but aim more precisely.

"Tellu - How will be the spotting of enemy units
handled? If one unit sees the enemy does that mean all
the others in the same side instantly and magically
know where that one enemy is? If one soldier from the
squad is seen is the whole squad visible?"

Andrew Wafer: Line of sight and fog of war are all
handled by accurate and realistic models. Each unit
has his own vision radius and distance, which can
actually be increased as the unit becomes more
experienced and adapt at spotting the enemy. The
player only sees the enemy units that his men can
see.

"Hata -
1) Do all the AFVs have realistic fire range as their
counterparts in reality? Let&#39;s say if LOS is clear,
heavy tank like King Tiger or JS-2 are able to
engage in long range (2km+) but light tank can only
engage maybe within 1.5km.
2) Does this game have authentic (realistic)
penetration calculation? So light tank would not be
able to destroy heavy tank from the front in
distance. Something similar to Combat Mission is
really welcome.
3) What is the max drawing distance in this game?
Would it be adjustable like the slider provided in
OFP-Resistance with default in 900m? Since this
game is based on IL2 engine.
4) Does this game has save-replay feature like the one
in IL2 so after every mission we can save the
replay as a track and replay it later with the
ability of switching to different camera? If not,
please consider this feature coz it&#39;s really
entertaining and good for tactical analysis also.
Thanks."

Andrew Wafer:
1) Some AFVs may have to have their fire ranges
limited slightly as the game map is 1km, but in
general they will be very accurate.
2) Yes of course armour penetration models are
accurate&#33;
3) In the game you are responsible for 1km square of
the battlefield, you will be able to see all the
relevant action required to make the best tactical
choices. Of course the battle will be raging on all
around that area, as always with PC game draw
distance is limited to the video settings you
specify the game to run at, and the spec of your
machine.
4) Finally the save replay feature you mention could
potentially be incorporated into Battlefield
Command, weve still got quite some time to run
with development and there are hundreds of
additional features we want to add to the game,
time permitting.
Look out next week for more questions answered.


FINAL NOTE -

Well that seems to be it from me. All I can say is
Ill be back next month with more news and quite
possibly a cheeky little Flashpoint 2 Video that I
couldnt fit into this month&#39;s letter.

Happy gaming everyone



Mike

Michael Rowland
Community Liaison Officer
IGI2/Battlefield Command/Op Flashpoint
Codemasters
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IsthatyouJohnWayne
May 16 2003, 15:06
In relation to the &#39;border&#39; problem it might be helpful to note the locations of the theatres of war.

-Central europe (with massive expanses of fairly featureless land stretching out in all directions)
-Africa (with its large expanses of featureless plains)
-South east asia (with its large featureless expanses of jungle)

Notice a pattern? All major land masses with large fairly featureless landlocked areas,

It may well be as others have said that similar to the current OFP, OFP 2 will simply have the endless plains of africa of central europe and the jungles of asia stretching off into infinity as the &#39;border&#39;...

haunted
May 17 2003, 14:28
In responce to the story not having the continuing ending like before, maybe you play as a raw recruit like in Cold War but instead of shooting up the ranks in a small period of time you do it over the years...

CopyCon
May 17 2003, 15:44
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I&#39;ll bet "A place you will never be" is not located in Europe. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Erex
May 18 2003, 19:58
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (toadeater @<hidden> 09 May 2003,05:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Is Christopher Walken going to be in OFP2? http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005O06P.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

I like this idea of multiple theaters. As long as they&#39;re each given a good amount of complexity, such as weapons and vehicles for each setting.

My uneducated guess is that this is all going to involve Gastovski, in his early years. Or at least either a veteran turned special forces/agent, or otherwise some renegade mercenary guy. It even leads things open for Guba showing up on several occassions.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
OFFTOPIC*:

One of my favourites books  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Only bad thing on movie was the differences with book  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif
Why UZI and not Schmeiser? etc



*) Sorry fo that

rufusmac
May 21 2003, 10:05
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">That would be awesome.  Throwing back the entire Arab world (outnumbering you in armor at least 9 to 1) off of your doorstep and saving Israel... destroying the Syrians in the Golan Heights and beating the Egyptians back across the Sinai... (God, I hope I&#39;m talking about the right war...)[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

Yeh, you got the war right... http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif   73&#39; is a better choice than 67&#39; because it wasn&#39;t so one sided.  Both sides had a good chance of winning.  The major drawbacks...  
1:  it won&#39;t "tie-in" to both european or african conflicts (although I cant think of any 60s-70s conflict that does)
2:  the air battle was mostly IAF jets shooting down EAF and SyRAF jets and Russian SA-6s shooting down israeli jets...
3:  The terrain (sinai) was too big (or rather open) for a game of flashpoint&#39;s kind.

The battle for the golan on the other hand was very intense, and featured some of the best combined arms demonstrations from both the syrians and the Israelis.  Tank hunter-killer teams prowling the mountainside while jets flew CAS. Plus, the golan heights do not look that different from Nogova  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

http://franang.umiacs.umd.edu:8080/~brabec/israel/thumbnails/golan_sub.jpg

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yes yes this is more like it except that this time US wont stick its long nose in and Egypt and Syria get Russian tanks and then we play  [/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
/rant
Ahem&#33;  Syria and Egypt were the ones with the technological advantage throughout the first week of the war.  The US airlift, while providing israel with crucially needed supplies (and some say sattelitte recon as well) does not compare to the military aid the soviet union gave the Arab powers.  It was russian soldiers who manned the SA-6s that shot down 100 israeli planes and russian pilots who defended the skies over egypt. /rant

The editing man
May 21 2003, 10:38
We have received news about the setting of OFP 2 after the E3 Video. We believe that OFP 2 will be set Vietnam (a obvious one), Parts of Africa and the Former Yugoslavia. The game should feature two main campaigns, one mainly with &#39;nam missions (and some Africa ones) and the other Campaign playing in Former Yugoslavia&#33; The Vietnam mission will mainly be the America Vs Vietnam war, the African missions being rebel and gurilla type warfare and last will be Soviet type missions in Former Yugoslav Campaign.

The Yugoslav Vs Soviet war might be set in 1952 to 1954 and feature low scale fighting (i.e small missions, secret army, spying) since there wasnt no war between Former Yugoslavia and USSR. The fact was that Stalin, the USSR president didnt like the way Tito, the Yugoslav president was running into Capatilsm. So he wanted to invade Former Yugoslavia and Kill Tito and his govenring body. Tito said that he would defend his country, and Stalin didnt want to have another war just after WW2. Therefore the USSR had around 100 tanks, and 1000&#39;s of troops around the eastern side of Former Yugoslavia and had sanctions inflicted onto Former Yugoslavia. This lasted 10 years when Stalin died.

Lets hope OFP 2 does really become a great game, greater then number 1 and with more and more greater addons and features added onto it&#33;&#33;

source: OFPBase (http://www.ofpbase.com)

theavonlady
May 21 2003, 11:49
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (The editing man @<hidden> 21 May 2003,13:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">source: OFPBase (http://www.ofpbase.com)[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Really? Sounds like this German GameStar article (http://www.gamestar.de/news/pc-spiele/action/12625/), which someone else already quoted here 5 days ago.

Eviscerator
May 21 2003, 13:05
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (The editing man @<hidden> 21 May 2003,12:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The Yugoslav Vs Soviet war might be set in 1952 to 1954 and feature low scale fighting (i.e small missions, secret army, spying) since there wasnt no war between Former Yugoslavia and USSR. The fact was that Stalin, the USSR president didnt like the way Tito, the Yugoslav president was running into Capatilsm. So he wanted to invade Former Yugoslavia and Kill Tito and his govenring body. Tito said that he would defend his country, and Stalin didnt want to have another war just after WW2. Therefore the USSR had around 100 tanks, and 1000&#39;s of troops around the eastern side of Former Yugoslavia and had sanctions inflicted onto Former Yugoslavia. This lasted 10 years when Stalin died.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Not very likely to be from &#39;52 to &#39;54, as BIS have already said the scenarios will be set in the years surrounding 1970, so going 16-18 years before then is a bit far back...

Postduifje
May 21 2003, 15:35
Would be kinda cool though, that way we&#39;ll get units from 2 different time-area&#39;s.

It all sounds really interesting, but also very speculative. There&#39;s really nothing to expect yet, besides the minor information that we&#39;ve heared so far. We&#39;re probable way off on all accounts http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

deathguy
May 21 2003, 19:43
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Blake @<hidden> 14 May 2003,01:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">
It would be stupid to have some uber-macho Gastowski jumping around Europe, Africa and Vietnam.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

well, don&#39;t forget that he is a commando...I guess if BIS bring him back, it will be when he will beging or something