Screenshot ripped out of the ofp2 flash file [Archive]

Nyles

Apr 24 2003, 08:23

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Sgt. Milkman @<hidden> April 23 2003,23:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I wonder why hes firing it standing up, he propably won't hit anything standing up like that.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Welcome to the wonderful world of Operation Flashpoint! Here you can hit targets from a standing position with standard iron sights at distances up to 600m; Here you can knock out a tank with infantry AT weapons at distances way over 400m; Here you can throw a grenade and have it magically detonate on impact; Here.... Mhh, you got the idea. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Increased realism in weapon handling is a must for OFP2 on my personal checklist. Weapons should behave in a realistic way and offer some new functionality like (working) bipods, maybe even tripods, malfunctions due to outer influence (water, mud), overheating barrels (maybe option to barrel change then, as well), options to not max out magazines in order to have the weapon jam less, and also the option that if you reload a non empty weapon, you will get the new mag's ammo count and in addition the one bullet still chambered.

There is so much that hopefully will be included in terms of weaponry. I really really hope they try to make it as believable as possible this time. No more reloading LAWs, and no more weapons that in the way BIS simulated them, simply do not exist (carl gustav is not guideable and even worse, only used by specops from 1990 onwards, not regulars.)

Well, with all those military connections through VBS1, I guess they might indeed manage to things simulated in a more realistic way this time. I have a lot of faith in BIS. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Little Blue Assassin

Apr 24 2003, 10:30

I have three words for you. Dream on.

Ex-RoNiN

Apr 24 2003, 10:47

Moving to the shiny, new OFP 2 forum http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

A reminder for the future - can you please keep all OFP 2 related threads in the OFP 2 forum please http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif That is what it is there for, after all http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

coporal_punishment

Apr 24 2003, 11:01

So where do you think flashpoint 2 will be set judging by that picture it looks like Vietnam.

I hope it won't be and hope BIS come up with an original storyline they have in the past and it has been quite good.

MP Studio

Apr 24 2003, 11:10

The picture is ingame. Look at the muzzle flash http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Here you can hit targets from a standing position with standard iron sights at distances up to 600m; Here you can knock out a tank with infantry AT weapons at distances way over 400m[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

In reality, you could hit a target on 500 m with a AK74. With AKM or AK47 on 300m. But with a M16 on 650 m. You only have to have good eyes and the target must wear a yellowblue striped uniform http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

400 m ok, but you should can shoot a not moving target with AT4 on 300 m...

Well, i will buy OFP2 and if the world is in nuclear war http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

SpecOp9

Apr 24 2003, 11:19

Now that I look at it more carefully, It does look ingame!

Take a look at the wall he is hiding against, and also the ground.. It looks like polygons if I ever saw it...

Hmmm... It could also be a CG animation also, so dont get too exited with graphics, tho it would be awsome if they used something compared to the new Doom graphics!

It could also be a cut-out... a pic of a soldier pasted on the ingame map...

I suppose E3 will provide us with Pictures!

I need to make a screenshot vault r something, thanks forpointing his out guys.

ZIKAN

Apr 24 2003, 11:40

I dont believe that picture is an in game shot, if it was, I would be very happy.
But I think its just an edited picture, the guy is from an actual photograph, perhaps reversed, but the background is from OFP/2, and so is the muzzle flash.

I really would like BIS to prove me wrong though, and that its an actual screen shot from OFP2 http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Antichrist

Apr 24 2003, 12:05

Graphics in the screenshot look not that impressive. Actually they don't look any better than in OFP! Hope its not an actual screenshot from OFP2 or I will be really dissapointed! http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

Miles Teg

Apr 24 2003, 12:15

I agree that it looks like this game will be based on the Vietnam War. Personally I think that's great. However it will need to be substantially better then the SEB NAM pack 2 in order to sell well. Also you have to remember that they're trying to make it where the old addons are all compatible, so if they can provide things like the ability to join MP matches "in-game", and if they provide tons of period vehicles and weapons, along with other new novel ideas not seen before and new technical advances over OFP2, then I think that indeed the game will sell well.
As for realism, I like realism, but remember it's a game. If it was ultra realistic, alot of people would not play the game much because it would be too frustrating. If they do include things like random weapon jams, they should have settings for turning the levels of realism on or off.
I also hope they'll have an aircraft carrier with most of the U.S. Navy aircraft used from that time period.
To be honest, I think the SEB NAM pack is the funnest MOD I've played with compared to all of the mods out. So if BIS can make an even better MOD with lots of new stuff, then I'd definitely buy it. Plus always remember if it can use the old addons, then you can still play in whatever historical period you want.

Chris G.
aka-Miles Teg<GD>

ShadowY

Apr 24 2003, 12:28

Just look at the hand pulling the trigger
It looks like a real hand to me http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

*says NO to NAM* http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Nyles

Apr 24 2003, 12:48

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Little Blue Assassin @<hidden> April 24 2003,12:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I have three words for you. Dream on.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
lol http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

coporal_punishment

Apr 24 2003, 13:17

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ShadowY @<hidden> April 24 2003,14:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Just look at the hand pulling the trigger
It looks like a real hand to me http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

*says NO to NAM* http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Yeah the pic does look relistic just by the creasts seen on the troopers sleeve and the hand. it has been edited into OFP because of muzzel flash and I hope it isn't a vietnam I would rather prefer a fictional modern European campagin

Baron Hurlothrumbo IIX

Apr 24 2003, 16:06

You cannot hit a man size target over about 300m from standing with any military rifle. You'd sway too much. From prone, sure.

SpeedyDonkey

Apr 24 2003, 16:17

I made a brighter version of NeZz_DK´s screenshot

http://w1.182.telia.com/~u18218217/Screens/bright.jpg

[CCCP]Stalker

Apr 24 2003, 16:23

NO TO NAM NO TO NAM NO TO NAM NO TO NAM NO TO NAM NO TO NAM NO TO NAM NO TO NAM NO TO NAM NO TO NAM NO TO NAM NO TO NAM NO TO NAM NO TO NAM NO TO NAM We alrady have SEBNAM pack and that's enough. And there won't be any Soviets if it will be NAM game. I think the game SHOULD be based aroud fiction events that took place nowadays or at least it the same 80s-90s

[SZ]Vladimir

Apr 24 2003, 16:25

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote ([CCCP]Stalker @<hidden> April 24 2003,18:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">NO TO NAM NO TO NAM NO TO NAM NO TO NAM NO TO NAM NO TO NAM NO TO NAM NO TO NAM NO TO NAM NO TO NAM NO TO NAM NO TO NAM NO TO NAM NO TO NAM NO TO NAM We alrady have SEBNAM pack and that's enough. And there won't be any Soviets if it will be NAM game. I think the game SHOULD be based aroud fiction events that took place nowadays or at least it the same 80s-90s[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I agree you Stalker... http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Vladimir

Tamme

Apr 24 2003, 16:35

Looking at the brighter picture, the wall and all the other surroundings look like ingame but the soldier looks too good to be ingame. Or could it be... http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

[SZ]Vladimir

Apr 24 2003, 16:56

I see that too http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif first "in-game" screen http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Vladimir

Balschoiw

Apr 24 2003, 16:58

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You cannot hit a man size target over about 300m from standing with any military rifle.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Why not?
We even train on ducked targets on 400m´s and I more than once hit them.

mrukas

Apr 24 2003, 17:35

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote ([CCCP]Stalker @<hidden> April 24 2003,18:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">NO TO NAM NO TO NAM NO TO NAM NO TO NAM NO TO NAM NO TO NAM NO TO NAM NO TO NAM NO TO NAM NO TO NAM NO TO NAM NO TO NAM NO TO NAM NO TO NAM NO TO NAM We alrady have SEBNAM pack and that's enough. And there won't be any Soviets if it will be NAM game. I think the game SHOULD be based aroud fiction events that took place nowadays or at least it the same 80s-90s[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
well brothers and sisters, lets just put or hands together and pray that there will be no NAM for ofp2 http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif

Warin

Apr 24 2003, 17:46

Well, it's like..23 days to E3, so we'll know then http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

I am hoping for somehting European, rather than Vietnam. I am not down on Vietnam, and there hasnt been a genuinely GOOD Vietnam game yet, but I'd rather see something like CWC than Vietnam.

Necromancer-

Apr 24 2003, 18:20

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Balschoiw @<hidden> April 24 2003,18:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You cannot hit a man size target over about 300m from standing with any military rifle.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Why not?
We even train on ducked targets on 400m´s and I more than once hit them.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
The average soldier is not a Rambo like you. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Jacko

Apr 24 2003, 18:21

If you look at the gun you'll see that something is wrong in the middle

http://users.pandora.be/Jacko.bef/gun.jpg

So i think the front is an ingamemodel and the back with the man is just a picture.

I'm not a gun expert so i could be wrong too

Lets wait and see

TaNK_Em

Apr 24 2003, 18:29

I dont know hmm i think we should just wait for more info from BIS before we go starting to many rumors or something...

theavonlady

Apr 24 2003, 18:30

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (TaNK_Em @<hidden> April 24 2003,21:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I dont know hmm i think we should just wait for more info from BIS before we go starting to many rumors or something...[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
But once we hear from BIS, they won't be rumors anymore. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

bn880

Apr 24 2003, 18:33

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Miles Teg @<hidden> April 24 2003,08:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">As for realism, I like realism, but remember it's a game. If it was ultra realistic, alot of people would not play the game much because it would be too frustrating. If they do include things like random weapon jams, they should have settings for turning the levels of realism on or off.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Exactly! This I know is a big issue at BIS, the decision between realism and playability. My suggestion is bring it all on, with options in the difficulty/realism settings.

For instance, every time I fly a chopper in 1.91, I feel short changed that I cant merge different controller axis to fly it, and that I have no real rotor pitch control etc.

vektorboson

Apr 24 2003, 18:34

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Antichrist @<hidden> April 24 2003,14:05)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Graphics in the screenshot look not that impressive. Actually they don't look any better than in OFP! Hope its not an actual screenshot from OFP2 or I will be really dissapointed! http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Actually, I don't want better graphics, I want just better engine, with the limitations removed, better collision detection and clipping, better ammo handling. Graphics are not important (well since I have an old PC) to me, what I actually want is a flashpoint version 2.0 or better http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

theavonlady

Apr 24 2003, 18:39

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bigpoppa @<hidden> April 24 2003,21:34)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif5--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Antichrist @<hidden> April 24 2003,14http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif5)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Graphics in the screenshot look not that impressive. Actually they don't look any better than in OFP! Hope its not an actual screenshot from OFP2 or I will be really dissapointed! http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Actually, I don't want better graphics, I want just better engine, with the limitations removed, better collision detection and clipping, better ammo handling. Graphics are not important (well since I have an old PC) to me, what I actually want is a flashpoint version 2.0 or better http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I'm willing to bet that OFP2's minimum and recommended system requirements will move up several notches over OFP1's.

So what you really want is a Pentium 6 running at 6Ghz with 2048MB RAM and a 512MB GeForce 6 video card. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

MelaB

Apr 24 2003, 18:58

Im sure, OF2 will be situated in Vietnam http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif . There is many games about Vietnam and I don't like it. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif Why Vietnam http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

Did you hear about Battlefiled Vietnam? It will be big competition for OF2

andersgrim

Apr 24 2003, 19:08

Before ofp got out i said i didnt like historical games - only now-time or future actiongames like IGI,SOF and so.
But BIS made ofp in such a good way, that i got more interest for such coldwar games!
I think it's a bit stupid to start analyzing all signs of ofp2 as a nam game. Then it's not the same excitement waiting for this new game. But i am sure BIS know exactly what they are doing, and that this will turn up as another great czech production http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Lets all just close our eyes and wait for middle-may and this E3 conference! http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif

Schoeler

Apr 24 2003, 19:12

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @<hidden> April 24 2003,20:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bigpoppa @<hidden> April 24 2003,21:34)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Antichrist @<hidden> April 24 2003,14http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Graphics in the screenshot look not that impressive. Actually they don't look any better than in OFP! Hope its not an actual screenshot from OFP2 or I will be really dissapointed! <!--emo&http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Actually, I don't want better graphics, I want just better engine, with the limitations removed, better collision detection and clipping, better ammo handling. Graphics are not important (well since I have an old PC) to me, what I actually want is a flashpoint version 2.0 or better http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I'm willing to bet that OFP2's minimum and recommended system requirements will move up several notches over OFP1's.

So what you really want is a Pentium 6 running at 6Ghz with 2048MB RAM and a 512MB GeForce 6 video card. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
LOL. I'm starting a savings account so that I have the money to upgrade to the latest system by the time OFP2 comes out.

It's driving me nuts, but I swear that picture is of a Marine firing over a wall in Hue City during Tet of '68.

I have it somewhere, but I'll be damned if I can find it!

ShadowY

Apr 24 2003, 22:00

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (NeZz_DK @<hidden> April 23 2003,23:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I took out the shot of the man with the M60 from the flash file

http://nezz.crazyhosting.dk/ofp2.jpg

Hope you like what you see http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

looks like vietnam![/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
My guess is that this picture comes very close http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif and it`s a NAM site http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
I think finding the lookalike picture was kinda easy..... if I thought earlier about the German(I think it`s German) OFP NAM site http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
I think they were very silent bout the Flash\picture if you concider this one in a mirror and heavely edited from their NAM pictures section http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
http://neverland.homelinux.com/albums/album01/A_32_COVER_FIRE.sized.jpg

I would say the best one win if he can make the same kinda picture out of this one http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
My guess is you come very close if you start with mirroring it http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Azatoth

Apr 24 2003, 22:17

Screen - 100% fake http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

NO NAM !!!
NO NAM !!!

Hovmand

Apr 24 2003, 22:37

Just to go against the flow.

NAM NAM NAM I WANT NAM!!!!!

http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

I seriously dont care.

EDIT: And stop bitching about it, i am sure they have already made up their mind.

Azatoth

Apr 24 2003, 22:47

NAM - NO !!!
BALKANS - YES !!!

Antichrist

Apr 25 2003, 00:38

I wish OFP2 was about Balkans too!

Gummi

Apr 25 2003, 00:43

NAM, sure if the modding tools and engine is nice.

And it would be the greatest thing ever if BIS would then release a update/mod like res. about a more modern war, even if it hadn't a campaign. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

GuyKorn

Apr 25 2003, 00:46

NAM NO!
PHILIPPINES! YES!! FIGHT AGAINST THE ABU SYAFF!! http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Azatoth

Apr 25 2003, 01:04

NAM - NO !!!
PHILIPPINES - NO !!!

BALKANS - YES YES YES !!! http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Bosnia Civil War 1992-1995
Albania Civil War 1997
Croatia War with Serbia 1991-1995
Macedonia Ethnic Conflict 1990s
Serbia Kosovo Secessionist Movement 1990-1999
Yugoslavia Disintegration 1990s
NATO Invasion 1999

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/ops/yugoslav-ethnic.gif

ExtracTioN

Apr 25 2003, 03:02

The best would be GWC.
But if they make tunnels in mountens with caves some high grass river with crocodiles than I go for NAM and hope this time BIS makes a Aircraft Carrier for us http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
If they make it so than everyone will be happy with NAM

Antichrist

Apr 25 2003, 03:26

The screenshot is fake!!!! Here's the proof (property of my friend seifer)

http://www.flashpoint.ru/news/images/screen_fake.jpg

LaPoieto

Apr 25 2003, 03:42

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Azatoth @<hidden> April 25 2003,03:04)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">NAM - NO !!!
PHILIPPINES - NO !!!

BALKANS - YES YES YES !!! http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Bosnia Civil War 1992-1995
Albania Civil War 1997
Croatia War with Serbia 1991-1995
Macedonia Ethnic Conflict 1990s
Serbia Kosovo Secessionist Movement 1990-1999
Yugoslavia Disintegration 1990s
NATO Invasion 1999

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/ops/yugoslav-ethnic.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I'd like it too. I just finished reading a book on it,but its not likely. There is already a mod for this, Bosnian Killing Machines. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

PuNkErS

Apr 25 2003, 18:15

JJonth Cheeky Monkey

Apr 25 2003, 20:22

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Antichrist @<hidden> April 25 2003,05:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The screenshot is fake!!!! Here's the proof (property of my friend seifer)

http://www.flashpoint.ru/news/images/screen_fake.jpg[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
LOL, the creator fools us not http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

mrukas

Apr 25 2003, 20:51

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (cheeky monkey @<hidden> April 25 2003,22:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Antichrist @<hidden> April 25 2003,05:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The screenshot is fake!!!! Here's the proof (property of my friend seifer)

http://www.flashpoint.ru/news/images/screen_fake.jpg[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
LOL, the creator fools us not http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
holy crap! its an ofp/human hybrid, run for your lives! http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

Jinef

Apr 25 2003, 22:42

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Little Blue Assassin @<hidden> April 24 2003,11:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I have three words for you. Dream on.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I'm sure that's 2 words.

mrukas

Apr 25 2003, 23:09

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Jinef @<hidden> April 26 2003,00:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Little Blue Assassin @<hidden> April 24 2003,11:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I have three words for you. Dream on.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I'm sure that's 2 words.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
maybe he was hungry when he posted it, what he really ment was i have three words for you: Bacon Lettuce Tomato

Hit_Sqd_Maximus

Apr 26 2003, 00:12

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (mrukas @<hidden> April 25 2003,22:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (cheeky monkey @<hidden> April 25 2003,22:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Antichrist @<hidden> April 25 2003,05:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The screenshot is fake!!!! Here's the proof (property of my friend seifer)

http://www.flashpoint.ru/news/images/screen_fake.jpg[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
LOL, the creator fools us not http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
holy crap! its an ofp/human hybrid, run for your lives! http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Hm... kinda like the IL SS w/ the 2 cobras over the ocean? That was a fake as well wasnt it?

Antichrist

Apr 26 2003, 00:34

BIS is probably laughing their asses off at how we fell for Vietnam rumours....... http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

toadeater

Apr 26 2003, 01:40

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Antichrist @<hidden> April 26 2003,02:34)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">BIS is probably laughing their asses off at how we fell for Vietnam rumours....... http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
They used shots of soldiers out of Vietnam in the OFP2 announcement on Codmasters' site, that's what started the rumors. That and the VTV... Vietnam TV as someone suggested.

If this new Balkans rumour turns out to be true, then it could be Voivodijna TV or however you spell it. Voivodijna being a province in Serbia, not any relation to the Canadian progressive metal band Voivod. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

I don't care anymore, I just hope it doesn't have bugs and looks better than S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Well... unless ofcourse it turns out to be a WW1 game where you sit in a trench for two hours with rats gnawing away at your rotting feet.

ale2999

Apr 26 2003, 05:48

lol toadeater http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Tamme

Apr 26 2003, 08:54

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Antichrist @<hidden> April 25 2003,05:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The screenshot is fake!!!! Here's the proof (property of my friend seifer)

http://www.flashpoint.ru/news/images/screen_fake.jpg[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
oooooo http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif the plot thickens!

SpeedyDonkey

Apr 26 2003, 08:59

I some how got in that mirc program and made it to the flaspoint 2 channel where i asked Mike_clo from CM why CM had a Nam picture. He said they brought it, probably just because it was a cool looking image.

[TU]$33ker

Apr 26 2003, 16:26

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SpeedyDonkey @<hidden> 26 April 2003,10:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I some how got in that mirc program and made it to the flaspoint 2 channel where i asked Mike_clo from CM why CM had a Nam picture. He said they brought it, probably just because it was a cool looking image.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
You're sure that it was a real CM employee you were talking to? http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
Maybe it won't be Vietnam but Korea? http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif

GuyKorn

Apr 26 2003, 17:45

We didnt have those types of guns in Korea

SpeedyDonkey

Apr 26 2003, 17:52

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote ([TU]$33ker @<hidden> 26 April 2003,18:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SpeedyDonkey @<hidden> 26 April 2003,10:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I some how got in that mirc program and made it to the flaspoint 2 channel where i asked Mike_clo from CM why CM had a Nam picture. He said they brought it, probably just because it was a cool looking image.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
You're sure that it was a real CM employee you were talking to? http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
Maybe it won't be Vietnam but Korea? http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Well he is apparently the "Community Liaison Officer" for CM and he was´nt 100% sure when i asked him.

guerilla [MCY]

Apr 27 2003, 14:34

I found the original Photo of the OFP2 Cover -
Check: www.vietnampix.com
I hope for some nice Artillery Stuff...

[CAVE]guerilla

theavonlady

Apr 27 2003, 14:43

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote ([CAVE]guerilla @<hidden> 27 April 2003,17:34)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I found the original Photo of the OFP2 Cover -
Check: www.vietnampix.com[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
http://www.vietnampix.com/bilder/face2a.jpg

Good site. Thanks.

guerilla [MCY]

Apr 27 2003, 15:10

thx for supporting my message

guerilla [MCY]

Apr 27 2003, 15:11

by the way, he's smoking Malboro i think:

Original Text from this image:

Marines on a combat-reconnaissance mission crouch down as they move through low foliage in the Demilitarized Zone in February 1968. They have just been attacked by a group of Viet Cong and are waiting for medical assistance and re-inforcements.

So they allrdy use a camper for their cover, lol. I think they would'nt use a vietnam image on their cover, if it was'nt a Vietnam Game. So it will be one and that for sure. And please stop moaning and bitching about the Fact, that it plays in the bloody Vietcong. I don't think that it will be like any other Vietnam Game because it is one of BIS creations and it can play whereever it wants to. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif

theavonlady

Apr 27 2003, 15:15

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote ([CAVE]guerilla @<hidden> 27 April 2003,18:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">and you write it down like i did. Are you my missing sister from Australia http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif lol[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Sorry but I don't miss you. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Acecombat

Apr 28 2003, 16:38

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">by the way, he's smoking Malboro i think:[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

So you saying we should get a marlboro in ofp2 with a option to smoke marlboro while on patrol http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Nyles

Apr 28 2003, 16:43

Oh my god...sponsoring in computer games... That would be aweful. What's next then? A 30 second message like: "This missions is sponsored by heckler&koch in cooperation with Pepsi!" ?

Personally, I think that the 20 seconds clan advertisement in the beginning of certain maps like Battlefield1985 are overkill already. Ah well, if they need it to boost their ego.... http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif

theavonlady

Apr 28 2003, 16:57

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Nyles @<hidden> 28 April 2003,19:43)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Oh my god...sponsoring in computer games... That would be aweful. What's next then? A 30 second message like: "This missions is sponsored by heckler&koch in cooperation with Pepsi!" ?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Mountain Dew might be a more appropriate beverage.

guerilla [MCY]

Apr 28 2003, 17:33

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @<hidden> 27 April 2003,17:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote ([CAVE]guerilla @<hidden> 27 April 2003,18:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">and you write it down like i did. Are you my missing sister from Australia http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif lol[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Sorry but I don't miss you. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
ups, it was a Quote of mine text, sorry for interrupt ya

Milkman

Apr 30 2003, 00:48

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Antichrist @<hidden> 24 April 2003,22:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The screenshot is fake!!!! Here's the proof (property of my friend seifer)

http://www.flashpoint.ru/news/images/screen_fake.jpg[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I don't see anything... http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/withstupid.gif

haunted

Apr 30 2003, 02:34

ok, Haunted's hallowed opinion time, seeing as Ive bothered to read all 5 pages of this in one sitting you better listen up http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Picture, man has to be a real guy and implemented into an OFP landscape, as the muzle flash looks too "symetrical" for me, also, notice the lack of the belt for his rounds, the wall does seem unnatural.

I cant see BIS using a pic from vietpix.com or whatever as a ploy to distract us, after all, fooling its community is one thing, and we can take a joke, but fooling the who gaming industry??

Lastly, it would be a lot harder to create the vietname setting if BIS decide to keep the freedom of OFP (Which Im sure they will) what with the dense jungles of vietnam simply spanning hundred of miles, to the town and villages all around it, but good luck to them, if they can pull it off well, it will be the best game ever, think about it, you just survived an ambush, and have been able to push the VC back, you reach a clearing, when yet another ambush hits you from a bombed out town with you and your squad avoiding both standard and sniper fire... Would be bloody hard to create, but I wanna play it...

Ebud

Apr 30 2003, 04:18

Do any of you work in the marketing or design field? You don't purchase or use images in "real life" without having a reason to. If you really believe that they would purchase an image, use it in marketing an upcoming possibly million copy seller, then honestly think that the image used has no bearing on what the upcoming product will be, then you really need to take a reality check. Purchasing rights protected images is not cheap. I do it every day. You do not pick images at random or just because they are "cool". You have a concept and you stick with it. There have been meetings, conference calls, memos, business plans, marketing plans, you name it. All in the process of gearing up for this game. Why do you think OFP NAM went offline? It was being made by BI Australia. Coincidence? Not likely.

I still cannot believe how some people can really think that OFP2 will have nothing to do with Vietnam or that a Nam image was used yet the game won't at least partially have a Vietnam setting. BI and CM would not let anything out the door publicly that hasn't been approved by at least 3 levels of management. Jeez... c'mon people this isn't a high school age mod team here.

SpeedyDonkey

Apr 30 2003, 05:01

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ebud @<hidden> 30 April 2003,06:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Do any of you work in the marketing or design field? You don't purchase or use images in "real life" without having a reason to. If you really believe that they would purchase an image, use it in marketing an upcoming possibly million copy seller, then honestly think that the image used has no bearing on what the upcoming product will be, then you really need to take a reality check. Purchasing rights protected images is not cheap. I do it every day. You do not pick images at random or just because they are "cool". You have a concept and you stick with it. There have been meetings, conference calls, memos, business plans, marketing plans, you name it. All in the process of gearing up for this game. Why do you think OFP NAM went offline? It was being made by BI Australia. Coincidence? Not likely.

I still cannot believe how some people can really think that OFP2 will have nothing to do with Vietnam or that a Nam image was used yet the game won't at least partially have a Vietnam setting. BI and CM would not let anything out the door publicly that hasn't been approved by at least 3 levels of management. Jeez... c'mon people this isn't a high school age mod team here.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I was only quoting him...

Spy17

May 1 2003, 15:16

I think the image is a OFP2 in game screen shot and I think it looks amazing! The real vietnam pic is similar but not equal (if you look at the details of folds and the face) I think they wanted to recreate the real picture with their in game screen shot. Hands in OFP look really ugly it seems in OFP2 they are improved a lot!

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Graphics in the screen shot look not that impressive. Actually they don't look any better than in OFP! Hope its not an actual screen shot from OFP2 or I will be really disappointed! [/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
How can you say this? most people discuss if this is a real picture.

Antichrist

May 1 2003, 15:38

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Spy17 @<hidden> 01 May 2003,17:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Graphics in the screen shot look not that impressive. Actually they don't look any better than in OFP! Hope its not an actual screen shot from OFP2 or I will be really disappointed! [/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
How can you say this? most people discuss if this is a real picture.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Well it is a real picture combined with OFP screenshot!

Spy17

May 1 2003, 15:52

I think we have to wait and see!
But if it is just an ingame screen shot I think it looks great.

ShadowY

May 1 2003, 23:37

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Antichrist @<hidden> 01 May 2003,17:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well it is a real picture combined with OFP screenshot![/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
If I may ask..is the picture I posted with the gunner the one that is used ? and if yes what did I win? http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Because I see many things that are heavely changed ,squesed and punched and folded and what other things you can do with a nice photo tool.
So I knew it was a fake(the hand looks to real also and the gunner is lefthanded)
But specially the parts above the grip are changed heavely to make it look like a bipod i think http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif (you can even see the tooooooo small fingers from his (left)right hand.
Other things as getting rid of the nose(to real looking), the ammobelt is a bit viewable still and I see, if i`m right a double left arm jacked at some points http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif
The rest are parts from a ingame screenshot prolly with a riffle or an M60 i can see that.
But here`s some other questions: if this guy called SEIFER did this why BiS play a part in it?
And why is there no confirmation about this being a FAKE screenshot\picture yet?
I know it`s FAKE but does BiS know? http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Antichrist

May 2 2003, 01:16

Nah! Seifer just brightened the image to show which parts are fake! The image itself is property of whoever put it on OFP2 website!

zverushka

May 4 2003, 03:26

You know, VTV is not only vietnam television, its also a croatian TV channel Varazdinska Televisija
http://www.vtv.hr/

theavonlady

May 4 2003, 04:15

The fact that BIS is waiting to explicitly mention anything about OFP2 until E3 has me wondering...............................

LaPoi

May 4 2003, 05:01

OFP2 still seems like the only game that stands out of all the games to be featured at E3. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Antichrist

May 4 2003, 05:05

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @<hidden> 04 May 2003,06:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The fact that BIS is waiting to explicitly mention anything about OFP2 until E3 has me wondering...............................[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I hope it is something no-one really expected..... http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

LaPoi

May 4 2003, 05:07

Me too http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Impavido

May 7 2003, 02:59

They could keep the graphics similar to OFP:Resistance if they want...It doesn't matter, I'm gonna buy this damn game NO MATTER WHAT! I don't care if the graphics put Splinter Cell and DOOM 3 to shame or if they look like they do now... OFP is awesome because of the wide variety of gamely, realism yet easy to learn, and most of all the Kick ass editing features and flexibility.
DON'T WORRY TOO MUCH ABOUT GRAPHICAL PERFORMANCE B.I.S., focus on the gameplay that ruined my GPA...Oh yea, OFP single-handedly ruined my college GPA and it WAS ALL WORTH IT!!!! http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Skunk Monkey

May 9 2003, 02:16

Increased realism, especially in Terrain and buildings, but also weapons and vehicles, no more busses that can climb snowy cliffs http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
Collision detection improved 100000000X.
Smarter AI

And that will do me

gandalf the white

May 11 2003, 15:28

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Antichrist @<hidden> 24 April 2003,14:05)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Graphics in the screenshot look not that impressive. Actually they don't look any better than in OFP! Hope its not an actual screenshot from OFP2 or I will be really dissapointed! http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
i don't think it is, they just merged some dude in, or maybe made a new vietnam-soldier and made him pose in the original OFP...? http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

AncientMariner

May 16 2003, 00:08

Impavido...remember me...I owned you in opf and all you did was whine about it...about your 5 frames per second....now you say that ruined your GPA? You must be a complete moron to actually lose playing the game and have it ruin your GPA.

I'm sorry, but i'd have to think, I must have been the one to ruin your GPA... since I owned you in the game like a little bitch, and all you did was cry about it, or maybe you got a low GPA because your a loser from birth....or it could be you were born with that genetic defect in your cerebrum.

Either way, I owned you in the game, and I will do it again when Opf2 comes out, so you had better finish up college friend, because an asskicking is coming your way.Thank you and god bless, teamgod.net owns you!

ps- now that i remember, i didn't play the game in six months, and still owned you....name was scorge....and i fugged u up and will do it again!

Impavido

May 16 2003, 04:57

Get a grip child.....you need serious help.
1- Don't remember you
2- Don't care either
3- Seek professional help for your obvious feelings of inferiority...and remember, we're all special in our own way.
As in your case some are more "special" than others.

AncientMariner

May 16 2003, 06:10

>Get a grip child.....you need serious help.
I am not a child and your the one who needs to seek proffesional help.
>1- Don't remember you
Yes you do http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
>2- Don't care either
Well...you wrote back didn't you!
>3- Seek professional help for your obvious feelings of inferiority...and remember, we're all special in our own way.
As in your case some are more "special" than others.

I do not feel inferior, nor am i special in any way besides the fact i beat you in game i have not played in months,and you cursed at me over and over, but you however seem to be in a state of denial, especially about your career, so if anyone is going to seek psychological help, maybe your daddy can pay a psychologist for your lack of mental capacity to act more civilized while losing in a video game, like he paid for your college.

And next time i own you....please don't whine like a little bitch
and curse at other people, look where it got you! A lower GPA, of course that could again just be your genetic birth defect but i could be wrong!

<cough>

TEAMGOD.NET OWNS YOU!

HAVE A TEAMGOD LIKE DAY http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif