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Troffmeister

Jul 11 2001, 16:30

i demand to hear some official response from BI / CODEMASTERS on modding etc , and tools !

there are thousands of people posting questions on this site , and there is no official response , why ??

Why are you so quiet - we know about patches and USA release , all we want to know is how can we mod ourselves , we want to add stuff in , vehicles , etc , we want source code / sdk / 3d tools etc !!

Are we going to get them and when http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gifhttp://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif??

all you have to do is speak up , and tell us and we will listen , we purchased your game , we paid your bills and wages , we want a d*amn
response , we want some constructive good news , we want to be kept informed !

Your silence is telling , and killing us all http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

Thank god for Lustypooh ,he has kept the lights of interest in mission building on !

Your silence , and ignorance and bad decisions are hurting this game and community

Speak up , we want to hear some official news !!!!!

Troffmeister's Flashpoint Zone

http://www.troffmaster.btinternet.co.uk/flashpointzone/flashzone.html

Troffmeister's Simulation Zone

http://www.daviesr.freeserve.co.uk/

(Edited by Troffmeister at 6:32 pm on July 11, 2001)

Troffmeister

Jul 11 2001, 23:52

people coming to this site ask the same questions over and over , and the only way they are gonna get answers if is BI help , by coming on these forums to offer help and info , so what about it , is this such a hard thing to ask and do ?

these seem to be the main questions -

1 how can i add my face to a character in game ?

2 will sdk / 3d tools / terrain editor be released , and when pls ?

3 what format can people start to make new 3d models , in preparation for the above, eg buildings , vehicles , flying vehicles etc ?

(Edited by Troffmeister at 1:52 am on July 12, 2001)

hiG

Jul 12 2001, 13:24

wasting your time, dudes..

its july and then august..

the worst months

SAS

Jul 12 2001, 13:47

codemasters just released this document:

CODEMASTERS' COMMITMENT TO OPERATION FLASHPOINT FANSITES

We are committed to supporting our customers on every level both
through our customer service department which deals with telephone
and email enquiries and through our direct communication with our
customers via the Internet.

Our online strategy has been developed with our customers in mind, we
have created microsites for each product we sell and are in the
process of enhancing the sites, with forums, chat rooms and mailing
lists to generate feedback on our products and allow users to discuss
tips, tricks and problems with a view to getting problems resolved as
quickly as possible.

We have developed fansite kits in direct response to our fans in
order that our customers have access to graphics and information on
the games, along with screensavers, desktop themes and eToy's. These
sites have been exceedingly popular for many of our games but we have
been quite literally astounded by the response to Operation
Flashpoint. We have received requests to host multi-play servers,
set up leagues and link to fansites and have been looking at ways to
meet all of these requests.

Given time constraints and the volume of work involved in fufilling
customer requests, the most logical idea was to seek partner fansites
which already contained some of the above resources.

Lustypooh background

We were in touch with a number of key fansites, some of whom have
been committed to Operation Flashpoint since the game's inception
years ago.

One of the sites we approached was www.ofpediting.com (also known as
LustyPooh) as we became aware that it already featured a number of
excellent resources for mission editing. We knew that the commitment
which would be required to maintain a resource site would be massive
so we continued to speak to other sites about partnering to make
Flashpoint resources easily available for all our customers. At no
point was there a commitment from our side to use this site
exclusively, in fact it was at this point that we raised concerns
with the site's editor about his bandwidth and also time commitments
as he was to be the only person working on it.

It became evident that one of the leading fansites, run by Seventh
had plans to run a similar resource site. As these guys already had
great relationships with the developers and were able to offer the
bandwidth and time commitment, we opted to use them as our main
resource site rather than LustyPooh.

Despite repeated attempts to discuss our decision with the editor of
Lustypooh, we have so far been unable to make contact with him – it
has been particularly disappointing to see him close down his site as
we thought it offered a valuable service to the fans of Flashpoint.

What is more disappointing is to see us accused of trying to close
down sections of fansites to gain the monopoly of online traffic,
which couldn't be further from the truth.

We are committed to building the Operation Flashpoint online
community, to shut down fansites would make no commercial sense. The
only war we intend to fight is piracy.

Jooche

Jul 12 2001, 14:13

I hope that Seventh would update site more often and put more info on-line. When comparing operationflashpoint.com and seventh... well you know.

I hope that some day Seventh will rise like a thundering dragon and take it's leading place among us http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Keep going and don't look back, the life goes on.

Tracer

Jul 12 2001, 15:16

it's a "fair do's" comment from BI/Codemaster's

There is *afterall* two sides to every story?

Hey, we all take thing's to heart and our pride's(ego's) get in our way....http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
This could probably be resloved quite amicably.....it seems BI/Code are trying
Why hasn't lusty posted and tried to sort this out rather than being defensive?

There's room for everyone!

Tracer

Tracer

Jul 12 2001, 16:21

Ok read Lusty's statement; He pulled the plug on his site -his own choice http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
It's nothing new this "tooing and froing" (sp?) it happened with B-17 and www.bombs-away.net when Wayward "used" the site for major publicity then shied away once the complaints about the game started coming in!
BA became a stronger more mature site after that as has been around now for about 2 years *still* offering support and mod's http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Unfortunatly *someone* at BI pulls the strings and often goes above the folk(internaly) that have better contact with the supporters on the Internet.
The guy (CM) that approached Lusty didn't realise that BI had gone their own different route -seventh- sadly it's created a bad taste in the community http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

Lusty *could* have quite easily continued (CM offered tools and help if needed)
It seems Lusty want's to go his own way?
Sad really, as life is full of sh*t and it's the one's that sh*t *doesn't* stick to that turn out to be the fighter's(that DON'T go away) and get recognised.............

Tracer

(Edited by Tracer at 7:23 pm on July 12, 2001)

8t88

Jul 12 2001, 16:48

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Troffmeister on 7:30 pm on July 11, 2001
i demand to hear some official response from BI / CODEMASTERS on modding etc , and tools !

there are thousands of people posting questions on this site , and there is no official response , why ??

Why are you so quiet - we know about patches and USA release , all we want to know is how can we mod ourselves , we want to add stuff in , vehicles , etc , we want source code / sdk / 3d tools etc !!

Are we going to get them and when http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gifhttp://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif??

all you have to do is speak up , and tell us and we will listen , we purchased your game , we paid your bills and wages , we want a d*amn
response , we want some constructive good news , we want to be kept informed !

Your silence is telling , and killing us all http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

Thank god for Lustypooh ,he has kept the lights of interest in mission building on !

Your silence , and ignorance and bad decisions are hurting this game and community

Speak up , we want to hear some official news !!!!!

Troffmeister's Flashpoint Zone

http://www.troffmaster.btinternet.co.uk/flashpointzone/flashzone.html

Troffmeister's Simulation Zone

http://www.daviesr.freeserve.co.uk/

(Edited by Troffmeister at 6:32 pm on July 11, 2001)
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Oh why oh why they release a scenario editor with a guide wich lags of everything ? Where is that better guide !!!

Crassus

Jul 12 2001, 16:56

And what of the other mod makers, gents, who are modding the heck out of it? As are the folks at http://gameznet.com/realwar/#alive, and http://www.operation-flashpoint.de/invasion1944/features_eng.php.

Why are they being so darn secretive? I suspect if we ask them how they are doing it, we will get SQUAT!!! in response.

ncoates

Jul 12 2001, 17:48

Its not worth arguing over- we dont know their situation right now.

Kazama

Jul 12 2001, 21:40

Well, to be fair to CM, I think they did everything they could, and like I've said before it was Lusty who decided to bring the site down himself.

Troffmeister

Jul 12 2001, 22:34

why the fukk are you continuing the Lusty debate in this thread for http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gifhttp://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif??

this thread is about seeking anaswers form CM / BI about modding - it has nothing to do with the editor or Lusty etc

jesus - keep on topic or go to a Lusty thread please !

Troff http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

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Nov 3 2001, 03:02

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