Interview with..

[Antichrist]

Our site managed to get an interview with Marek Spanel.
You can read it here. (http://west.flashpoint.ru/)

Flashpoint.ru: Are you going to release any more editing tools for OFP? Is there going to be a new version of Oxygen? Will you release a proper user manual for. Oxygen? Will there be a plug-in for 3DMax and other modeling programs?
Marek Spanel: We still...

[SFG]

Great interview!

[FallenPaladin]

Yes, nice interview, but it also destroyed my hopes concerning ongoing update support. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

[SFG]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FallenPaladin @<hidden> Mar. 16 2003,22:43)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yes, nice interview, but it also destroyed my hopes concerning ongoing update support.  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
They cant update forever http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[RalphWiggum]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FallenPaladin @<hidden> Mar. 16 2003,22:43)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yes, nice interview, but it also destroyed my hopes concerning ongoing update support.  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
well, they are moving on to next engine. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

edit: great inteview, Anti Christ&#33;

[Hovmand]

A second generation ofp engine&#33;&#33; Sounds allmost to good to be true http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[ale2999]

Very nice interview Mr. (I dont like ur name). http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif
http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
Guys, o my goodness did u read that whole thing, I think is a good news in a long run but bad in the short run http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Flashpoint.ru: We have another hot question, which we can&#39;t not to ask. Many of us are already tired of guessing about Independence Lost. You said that this project has nothing to do with BIS, but there is your logo on IL official website. So, what is it going to be? A new add-on such as OFP: Resistance or a full game with the new engine?
Marek Spanel: Independence Lost is an effort of our studio in Australia. It&#39;s an interesting project but it&#39;s still too early to reveal any specific details or even to confirm it will be released. We will decide later on future of this project but we have no intention to release it this year. At the moment, we focus on the Xbox version and on the second generation game using our technology due out 2004.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
so we got to wait for 2004 anyways, o boy I hope u addomakers r gonna keep me busy, very busy, and u guys make missions and campaing loads of em (I cant do them I suk too much) http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

[Nyles]

Nice interview, but I fear that OFP will losse a large majority of it&#39;s current fanbase, if there will be no more updates/addons.

OFP 1.91 has serious issues with multiplayer. A large number of players get timeouts en masse, which didn&#39;t happen back in 1.85 times. Without a fix for this, many people might loose the interest. Furthermore, if the next game indeed is far in the future (at least a year) the community will be reduced to all but the diehard players because of no more updates till then. If it is really planned that the current 1.91beta will simply loosen the beta desigantion, with no further changes, this will be a catastrophy for many of us. The community has been waiting since mid-december for a decent new update. Letting us down now WILL come back to you sooner or later. There has been talk for months now regaring the 1.91b, with lots of feedback and smaller requests. Now they tell us it was all in vain. Well, my day is screwed. Thx. :-(

[iNeo]

What a disappointment that IL won&#39;t be released this year. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/Skin/Default/PostIcons/icon12.gif

Like ale said...
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">o boy I hope u addomakers r gonna keep me busy, very busy[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

[SFG]

Invasion 44 will be out mid year. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[ale2999]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SFG @<hidden> Mar. 16 2003,23:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Invasion 44 will be out mid year. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
yay for invasion1944, counting down till june. Bis I want ur next engine to kick butt and the crap out of any engine out there, I want millions of ppl to play ur game (i bet u do too), it helps to have a huge community.

[Antichrist]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ale2999 @<hidden> Mar. 16 2003,23:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Very nice interview Mr. (I dont like ur name).  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif
http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Hey, don&#39;t start with it&#33; I already explained heaps of times before why i&#39;ve decided to register here under that name.... I was bored&#33;&#33;&#33; http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[maximus alfa]

Here (http://ofp.redclaw-network.de/ofpc/newskommentare.php?nid=907) are the german translation of the Interview...

www.ofp-center.de (http://www.ofp-center.de)

[RED]

Great interview&#33; Looks like we have a long wait ahead of us.

RED

[theavonlady]

I wish BIS would consider capitalizing on the addons they&#39;ve already produced for VBS1.

If they are or can be made compatible with OFP 1.9, how much would it cost them to whip up an expansion pack, including a new campaign and missions using those addons?

To cut marketing costs, it could be downloadable, like Red Hammer originally was.

If enough would sell to see a decent profit on this, everyone would be happy.

It certainly would increase the current version&#39;s lifespan.

[vektorboson]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @<hidden> Mar. 16 2003,23:01)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">well, they are moving on to next engine. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
But that sounded to me different; he said that they are improving the Flashpoint engine, so the second generation engine would be rather a version 2.0 of Flashpoint (and not a complete rewrite&#33http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Hope they fix the limitations, because I just don&#39;t understand some of them.

Just my thought.

[iNeo]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @<hidden> Mar. 17 2003,10:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I wish BIS would consider capitalizing on the addons they&#39;ve already produced for VBS1.

If they are or can be made compatible with OFP 1.9, how much would it cost them to whip up an expansion pack, including a new campaign and missions using those addons?

To cut marketing costs, it could be downloadable, like Red Hammer originally was.

If enough would sell to see a decent profit on this, everyone would be happy.

It certainly would increase the current version&#39;s lifespan.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I like that idea... please, BIS, please http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Bordoy]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Nyles @<hidden> Mar. 16 2003,22:34)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Without a fix for this, many people might loose the interest. Furthermore, if the next game indeed is far in the future (at least a year) the community will be reduced to all but the diehard players because of no more updates till then. If it is really planned that the current 1.91beta will simply loosen the beta desigantion, with no further changes, this will be a catastrophy for many of us.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
This will remain my number 1 game 4eva

[Gollum1]

Man, this is so depressing... http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

OFP is now officially dead to BIS. The user addons will keep it going until 2004, but this is the beginning of the end&#33;
THE END, I TELL YOU&#33; http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif

Still, OFP has come a loooooong way since 1.00.
Did anyone notice that OFP xbox has an ofp 1-and-a-half engine? I don´t have an xbox&#33; http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

This day had to come, but if they´d just fixed the autofire sound bug...oh, well. Damn.

[MP Studio]

But i think there wont be a mission editor on xbox, wont it? I think it would be fun http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[RalphWiggum]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bigpoppa @<hidden> Mar. 17 2003,11:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif1--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @<hidden> Mar. 16 2003,23http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif1)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">well, they are moving on to next engine. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
But that sounded to me different; he said that they are improving the Flashpoint engine, so the second generation engine would be rather a version 2.0 of Flashpoint (and not a complete rewrite&#33http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Hope they fix the limitations, because I just don&#39;t understand some of them.

Just my thought.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
good point. i should have said it better than what i said above. however, considering the trade off btw spending time improving engine and using existing things to elongate current engine life, i&#39;d rather wait a bit more and get better one.

[SpeedyDonkey]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i&#39;d rather wait a bit more and get better one[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Exactly&#33; I dont need another chopper or some nice and sexy looking combat units. A new engine is what OFP needs.

Oh and great interview&#33; http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Nyles]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SpeedyDonkey @<hidden> Mar. 17 2003,22:43)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i&#39;d rather wait a bit more and get better one[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Exactly&#33; I dont need another chopper or some nice and sexy looking combat units. A new engine is what OFP needs.

Oh and great interview&#33; http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Me neither, but I want at least a working stable netcode for multiplayer and voice-over-net fixed/tweaked for socket netcode. However, I won&#39;t mind new addons either. Hell I would even pay for them as long as they are official. I&#39;m not even asking for a fix regarding sliding tanks etc., as I have given up on this long ago, but at least the game should be stable. For many people it isn&#39;t anymore, since 1.90.  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif

[FallenPaladin]

I`m not so happy...

I`d have rather liked to see some old bugs fixed, like the missing strela pic, the bug where you can`t lock on with AA in MP until you reload your already loaded launcher, and many other things that were mentioned as bugs in the forums. I know that OFP:R is a very complex game, but a final patch should at least fix the known bugs  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

And what`s with the Camel for example, it`s also just beta. Or the direct speech thing? It`s still not working...

I don`t want to sound too negative, but right now I`m still very depressed, because I waited for a new patch since the 1.91 beta. That`s been four month, I guess...

I really honor BIS for it`s support up to 1.85 or 1.90, that time has just been outstanding. But I expected a happy ending so to say, a patch that fixes the known bugs and not a 1.91 beta that just becomes "official".

I`ve been with OFP from 1.00 on. That it ends this way makes me sad and it also steals my illusions somehow. Of course I`ll buy OFP 2 too, but OFP:R is losing it... I think we`ll lose a lot of good men (and women) especially in the MP community worldwide.  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

[Mora2]

I second what FallenPalladin says and i have to add that many ppl willjust move on due to unactualised patches.


Sounds sad but life continues....

I´ve been playing OFP since the demo and its the only game i have really played with some exceptions, i´ve nearly lived with it....

What are we gonna do now?? http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

[toadeater]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (MP Studio @<hidden> Mar. 17 2003,18:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">But i think there wont be a mission editor on xbox, wont it? I think it would be fun  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Especially typing on the XBOX. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

About the rest of this interview...

There goes our 2.0 patch. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

No JIP http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif
No addon manager http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif
No clipping fix http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif
No pixellated vertexes http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif
Not even the bloody sound bug fixed. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

Codemasters should reject the current 1.91 beta and demand a better patch than this, especially if there will be no new OFP until 2005 at the earliest?&#33; OFP on the XBox is not a "new" OFP, and Independence Lost still might not even come out according to what Marek said. If IL does come out, that would be a nice time for a MAJOR patch, like sometime this summer.

Is the GOTY even out in the US yet?

[Placebo]

And yet despite all that it&#39;s still the best game in the genre by a long, long, long, long way, freaky http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Skunk Monkey]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Nyles @<hidden> Mar. 17 2003,22:12)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">
Me neither, but I want at least a working stable netcode for multiplayer  but at least the game should be stable. For many people it isn&#39;t anymore, since 1.90. [/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I have no problems with current netcode, and super-fast servers, I think that the biggest boost to OFP Multiplayer was the 2Ghz 1024Ram servers, with 5Mbit+ connections. since these have been afforadable the gamplay is fine, we can have 24 people on a complex coop map and still maintain performance. ... hosting a game for 6 people on a home dsl line may not be as smooth, and maybe thats where the sockets netcode lacks ... 56 and 64Kers do struggle more on MP thesedays, but the improvement for those with good connections is great.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">No JIP
[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
UNFORTUNALEY he said JIP would be in the next engine, I hope it will be server or mission disabling option, I dont want it in coop,

[Nyles]

It&#39;s not a problem with the server, it is a problem with the game itself. Many people (not all) are getting time outs during play on a regular basis. The problem is that this only happens since the second last patch, and only for certain people. These people are getting the timeouts very often, though.

Now with BIS discontinuing OFP, people like me are screwed, as we have to live with this game bug introduced with one the last betas. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

[OxPecker]

A sad day indeed to hear we will be getting no more OFP related releases from BIS until 2004.
I was hoping that IL would be out this year to tide us over, but apparently not.
Now more than ever, we need the OFP community to pull together to extend the life of OFP.
High definition texture updates, high quality addon packs (like BAS Rangers), and a more uniform approach to addons (we really need to pull our collective fingers out and create some sort of standardized addon packs for MP and SP use) to make new and exciting missions & campaigns.

[iNeo]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Skunk Monkey @<hidden> Mar. 18 2003,01:03)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">No JIP  
[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
UNFORTUNALEY  he said JIP would be in the next engine, I hope it will be server or mission disabling option, I dont want it in coop,[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Come on, JIP would be cool in OFP if you think about it... as an option. Conflicts reaching several days, and a lot of other stuff I can&#39;t think of right now because I gotta catch the bus hehe.

[PiNs_Da_Smoka]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @<hidden> Mar. 17 2003,03:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I wish BIS would consider capitalizing on the addons they&#39;ve already produced for VBS1.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
So sure that BIS made the addons for VBS1? http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[theavonlady]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (PiNs_Da_Smoka @<hidden> Mar. 18 2003,10:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @<hidden> Mar. 17 2003,03:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I wish BIS would consider capitalizing on the addons they&#39;ve already produced for VBS1.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
So sure that BIS made the addons for VBS1? http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
99% sure. If not, license them. No major military secrets here.

[PiNs_Da_Smoka]

Soooo....Coalescent just put there pretty little logo on it, right?

[theavonlady]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (PiNs_Da_Smoka @<hidden> Mar. 18 2003,10:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Soooo....Coalescent just put there pretty little logo on it, right?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
No. There are other complex command and mission control components stitched into VBS1.

[PiNs_Da_Smoka]

/me hands avon his sarcasm detector http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[theavonlady]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (PiNs_Da_Smoka @<hidden> Mar. 18 2003,10:50)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">/me hands avon his sarcasm detector  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Here&#39;s an old VBS1 PowerPoint presentation (http://www.filefront.com/?filepath=/theofpfaq/misc/OFP_Document_VBS1Presentation.ppt) that will show you some of VBS1&#39;s non-OFP screens. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Axek]

It&#39;s fantastic news to know that there will be a new game out next year&#33;

Keep it up BIS.

[Die Alive]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Marek Spanel: There&#39;s around 1.2 million copies of Operation Flashpoint sold worldwide in total. It&#39;s incredible achievement for a PC game and it surpassed all dreams we had before the release. Resistance was also very good seller with around 200 thousand copies sold so far, which is very good result for an expansion pack. GOTY Edition was released only in some countries and it definitely helps to continue life of Operation Flashpoint in gaming stores.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
1.2 million copies of OFP sold, but only 200 000 OFP:R sold. Now the GOTY edition would prop up that number slightly.

I think that the 1.0 to 1.46 OFP left many people with a bad taste in their mouth that they didn&#39;t bother getting OFP:R. That&#39;s a shame.

-=Die Alive=-

[Antichrist]

Well even 200,000 copies of an expansion sold is extremely good result. Normally 300,000 copies is enough to declare game a success. It was never going to sell as much as original OFP anyway.

[philcommando]

er.........only 1.2million copies sold.......pssst&#33;&#33;&#33; how many more millions in home computers now are bootlegged versions....hehe.......er....er....down with piracy&#33;

[OxPecker]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (philcommando @<hidden> Mar. 19 2003,04:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">er.........only 1.2million copies sold.......pssst&#33;&#33;&#33; how many more millions in home computers now are bootlegged versions....hehe.......er....er....down with piracy&#33;[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Yes, I would guess that for every legitimate copy there would be at least 1.5 pirated copies out there.
That = about 3,000,000 copies of OFP.
Not bad for a game that got relatively little marketing or advertising.

[Antichrist]

I wonder if anyone from BIS is going to comment on our comments?  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[ale2999]

what do u think lol? They never answer speculations.....

[Leone]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ale2999 @<hidden> Mar. 19 2003,07:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">what do u think lol? They never answer speculations.....[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I think that&#39;s because they are secretly three-heaed aliens from Sirrus B, with a mission to enslave all mankind with their addictive computer games. How&#39;s that for speculation http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Drugs are fun....errrr bad....don&#39;t take &#39;em kids&#33;

[FallenPaladin]

Leone, that`s the best sig I`ve seen so far&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; Wow&#33;&#33;&#33; http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[waffendennis]

http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif  2 bad that there is bad news but yea there is good news http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif and i hope the addon makers will keep me up with addons till a new release of OFP of whatever http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif ( still now i am messing around in 02 so i can make addons for my zelf http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif )

PS: i know of topic but its alittle bit funny ( not for evry 1 but here it goes ) the pic is over 100KB so i linked it to my direct site:
The LOL pic http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif (http://www.pbase.com/image/14488831)

[FallenPaladin]

Hey, what`s so funny with that? I`m with the forums for a very long time now and I participated in the first patch testing after 1.00. Why shouldn`t I get interviewed, too?

Nobody likes me... http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

[Leone]

Lets see..post count 2400+....everybody already knows what you think Paladin&#33; Why have any interview when we can just read your posts. You&#39;ll have to become.......mysterious http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[haunted]

OMG guys, I cant believe after 4 pages noones mentioned this.

Mark says BIS are going to make a big announcement shortly, HOWEVER, and this is the big one, he&#39;s not sure that Independence Lost is even going to be released......

Now, I dunno about you, but maybe.... MAYBE there are 2 projects on the go here, an OFP2 and ID perhaps?http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif?http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif?

Whatdya think?

[Antichrist]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (haunted @<hidden> Mar. 20 2003,09:03)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">OMG guys, I cant believe after 4 pages noones mentioned this.

Mark says BIS are going to make a big announcement shortly, HOWEVER, and this is the big one, he&#39;s not sure that Independence Lost is even going to be released......

Now, I dunno about you, but maybe.... MAYBE there are 2 projects on the go here, an OFP2 and ID perhaps?http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif?http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif?

Whatdya think?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Well there is an announced project due 2004 at www.bistudio.com http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[FallenPaladin]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Leone @<hidden> Mar. 20 2003,05:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You&#39;ll have to become.......mysterious  http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I am mysterious, Leone, my friend, I am...

whistles X-Files tune http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[haunted]

ID = IL by the way http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

[iNeo]

Ya, he did say BIS in Australia is making IL, so yeah -- two projects are in the making, I guess. But who will buy IL (assuming it&#39;s an expansion to OFP1) if it&#39;s going to be released about the same time as OFP2 is out...?

[haunted]

My initial thoughts on IL are.... flight.... Ive yet to see a SS with Infantry in, only aircraft. and a boat.

[FW200]

http://www.independencelost.com/IL/Gallery/splash.jpg
*cough* what are those human like figures then ?

[VXR]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (haunted @<hidden> Mar. 23 2003,05:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">My initial thoughts on IL are.... flight.... Ive yet to see a SS with Infantry in, only aircraft. and a boat.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
no way, OFP engine isnt made for planes... its mostly a infantry combat sim

[theavonlady]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Vixer @<hidden> Mar. 23 2003,15:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">OFP engine isnt made for planes[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Don&#39;t tell that to Hudson & Company.

[haunted]

Granted, their are humans there, but they could be used for things like when you get captured (Like in one of the EuroFighter games) or just look that good when you get up close, because most Flight Sim games nowadays have views of Ground forces when you get low, I know Falcon 4.0 did, and that games ancient.

Also, who said it uses OFP engine? Correct this if Im wrong of course, but I havent seen it said anywhere that it will use the same engine as OFP, these SS could also be taken from VBS1 (I doubt it, but you never know http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif )

Therefore lotsd of unfounded rumors but when I first saw OFP SS&#39;s the emphasis was clearly based on Infantry, while with IL the first SS&#39;s I saw were of choppers and aircraft on Carriers eor in flight.

[Mr. Snrub]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (haunted @<hidden> Mar. 24 2003,19:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Therefore lotsd of unfounded rumors but when I first saw OFP SS&#39;s the emphasis was clearly based on Infantry, while with IL the first SS&#39;s I saw were of choppers and aircraft on Carriers eor in flight.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I&#39;d say the IL emphasis on aircraft/ships in their screenshots is to illustrate the main differences between it and OFP - perhaps the simulation of infantry in IL isn&#39;t that much different to regular OFP, while other areas (ships in particular) are leaps and bounds ahead. Makes sense to point out which parts of the engine have been improved the most...

Seeing as IL is based on the East Timor conflict (or a future conflict in ET), I think it&#39;s highly likely that the infantry aspect will be the main part of the game, just like it was in real-life...