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barret
Nov 15 2001, 03:54
Ever noticed how no one talks about the V-22 Osprey?, its a tilt rotor, makin it a perfect trans port, it goes fast, high, and best of all it can go verticle. Any one notice it or did it just fly by?

762WorldOrder
Nov 15 2001, 04:43
1. I don't think the V-22 was around in 1985. Not in military use, anyway.

2. They crash a lot. I don't know about you, but I'm not sure I'd feel comfortable taking my squad up in one of those things. Gotta look out for my men, you know... http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Crazed Killa
Nov 15 2001, 05:04
Yea I've also heard that they aren't very stable.

Krechet1
Nov 15 2001, 05:12
V-22 would be like a Russian "sabateur" unit. They fall out of the skies all by theselves killing whole squads.


In 1986 the cost of a single V-22 was estimated at $24 million, with 923 aircraft to be built. In 1989 the Bush administration cancelled the project, at which time the unit cost was estimated at $35 million, with 602 aircraft. The V-22 question caused friction between Secretary of Defense Richard B. Cheney and Congress throughout his tenure. DoD spent some of the money Congress appropriated to develop the aircraft, but congressional sources accused Cheney, who continued to oppose the Osprey, of violating the law by not moving ahead as Congress had directed. Cheney argued that building and testing the prototype Osprey would cost more than the amount appropriated. In the spring of 1992 several congressional supporters of the V-22 threatened to take Cheney to court over the issue. A little later, in the face of suggestions from congressional Republicans that Cheney's opposition to the Osprey was hurting President Bush's reelection campaign, especially in Texas and Pennsylvania where the aircraft would be built, Cheney relented and suggested spending $1.5 billion in fiscal years 1992 and 1993 to develop it. He made clear that he personally still opposed the Osprey and favored a less costly alternative.
The program was revived by the incoming Clinton administration, and current plans call for building 458 Ospreys for $37.3 billion, or more than $80 million apiece, with the Marines receiving 360 Ospreys, the Navy 48 and the Air Force 50. The first prototype flew in 1989. As of early 2000 three test aircraft had crashed: no one was killed in the 1991 crash, an accident in 1992 killed seven men, and the third in April 2000 killed 19 Marines.


So i'd rather fly in 30 year old mi-8 than Osprey (mi-8s are quite fun to fly in, especially under hair of automatic fire and on board mechanic fixing the engine right in the air swearing and smoking right near the fuel pipe, i'd say mi-8 flights were my most significant memories, especially when 5,45 bullet went into vest on which i was sitting (would be really ugly if i didn't put that vest under my groin)).

Crazed Killa
Nov 15 2001, 05:46
cool

Unl33t
Nov 15 2001, 09:25
They are actualy slow... and can't fly very high.. even though in OFP that makes no differance.

The V-22 is a sexy looking helicopter until it crashes.
Poor choice for the game...just doesent fit in

CrunchyFrog
Nov 15 2001, 11:00
I thought about... for some time now... but i couldnt get the name for that sucker! they should really put in ofp!

BlueJames
Nov 15 2001, 14:31
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It's a plane, not a helicopter

Damage Inc
Nov 15 2001, 14:34
It's a VTOL airplane (like the Harrier).

hollywood
Nov 15 2001, 15:03
No THAT much like the harrier... ;-)

Krull SGC
Nov 15 2001, 16:05
Has anyone every tried one of the V-22 Osprey's available for FS2000?http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif
I did, and if that is anything to go by, and usually the flight dynamics are replicated very faithfully by the creators of these things, its a complete b*tch to fly, and very hard to maintain any kind of level and stable flight with a decent speed, and as a result it control was easy to lose, and crashes were frequent.
Judging from Kretchets info, it seems the problem was common in real life too, so I guess the flight dynamics modellers did a good job on the FS2000 model.
Ohh and its neither a plane, a helicotper, or a VTOL, its a Tilt-Rotor craft (like barret said), a kind of hybrid of the three.

barret
Nov 15 2001, 19:04
the air plane can infact fly with out problems (first few hundred miles though)

Devildog815
Nov 15 2001, 21:12
Leave it out. I dont know why they keep going with it. Unstable. Give me a CH-46 or CH-53 anyday.