Nexts addons

[Spetznaz]

What you want to see in the nexts addons???

I want:
- BTR-70 or 80
- BRDM-2 w/ turret
- Mi-6 Hook or Mi-26 Halo(better)
- Real Commander seat in the BMP-2
- Smoke granades for the armored units
- LAV-25
- New civilians units, like childrens, womans....
- Animals like dogs, cows, birds...
- Cops
- New civilian cars (lada, renalt...)
- Ships
- The rain fall into the house and car....how this is possible?http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif (bug)
- MRS (multiple rockets sistem)
***->URAGAN 9K57 of BM-21 Grad(better)for the Russians
***->M270 for the Americans
- Improve the BRDM and BMP armor (is to weak)

just a few ideas..... http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif


(Edited by Spetznaz at 6:51 pm on Nov. 18, 2001)


(Edited by Spetznaz at 8:48 pm on Nov. 18, 2001)

[Dawdler]

You know, what idiot would let civilian children into a warzone? Same with the cops. What are they going to protect the nonexistent civilians agianst? Their handguns vs my T80? And why would rain be falling into a car?http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif?? The vehicle and weapons ideas are good though.

[FlasHpoinTer]

I think some Modern Trucks !!!

for example

MAN
MERCEDES
Renault
or Kamaz

woud be cool

=)

and a new Island ah city =)

[Ruskie]

more civilian stuff, and firemen, police, ambulances etc... would be wicked for cutscenes or mods. having a mission in a large town (hopefully we'll get a bigger town somewhere) where the russians paradrop onto it, and the town has lots of normal life and everything, maybe even police roadblocks http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif IF you had a zombie mod (like we talked about ages ago but it never came around http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif ) police would be essential, but they'd have their uses in game, purely cosmetic though.

besides, i'd assume some SWAT team missions would be pretty decent http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

(Edited by Ruskie at 7:39 pm on Nov. 18, 2001)

[MotherRussiaAK74]

SWAT is close quaters though.

[jreaper]

all i want is the uh-60-mg with a m60 instead of the m2.
the point is that the uh60 has the m60 on it in real life!!! ss why not in the real game!!! it cant be that hard to implement

[The Jub Jub Bird]

I agree whole heartedly on most points.

More civilians yes! Women and Children. But I don't miss firemen, policemen, etc.

No ships! The engine doesn't support it and I can't see them being incorperated easily or realistically, but maybe more boats.

No MRLS or BM-21 or the like, there range covers the islands ten times over and is well pointless.

The BMP and BRDM armour is fine, if it was stronger they would be too hard a fight for a squad of soldiers, especially if there were more thna one...thay are not tanks. The BRDM after all is just like a Hummer.

Definately agree with the M2 being swapped for a M60 - I can't imagine that it is that hard a task. BTR-70 would be wicked as would a BRDM with a turret, and whilst on the topic how about a Hummer with a machine gun mount?

LAV-25 yeah cool (but were they around in 1985?)

Smoke launchers that work on the tanks I have been campaign for, for a long time, but nought.

The commander seat in the BMP-2 definatly needs to be fixed - that pisses me off, bit of a mistake on BIS part me thinks.

Animals yeah...everything else yeah.

Bugs need to be fixed too. Not that there are too many left.

[Damage Inc]

It doesn't matter if they weren't around in 1985. We've got units and weapons that weren't around in 1985 already.

[Munger]

There was a rumour a while ago that the MI28 Havoc will be out in the next addon.

[oneandsix]

More civilians and Multipul rocket launchers. Not for long range stuff, just bombardment.

[InFuSiOn]

Who would want to put children in a warzone. ***I like you weapon ideas though.

[SilentDeath]

Personally, I think that you should be able to shoot from the windows of vehicles, so that they wouldn't be so defenseless against foot soldiers. The smoke grens on the armored units is a good idea... probably wouldn't be hard to do. I think we need a Huey with a gun in the door. THAT would be fun. More civs is cool too. Maybe make some animals, but not too many... it would probably take a bite out of the FPS of the average player

[Brass]

you cant choose to be stuck in a warzone! so children would be realistic, especially if theyre cealed in and hiding from the fighting.
all good ideas, part from cops, cos you will be able to make them for your own mod, there arent any big towns to support cops and they are pretty useless against military, like someone said.

dont mind the rest.

yeah, yeah, you already got non-realistic time scale weapons, but i think it was the czechs trying to desperately impress its german and austrian neighbours by putting in such crap guns! i bet the neighbours were peeing themselves with joy though.

maybe the mrs could be equivalent of scud, not do anything, but could be used for mission atmosphere, as it is too long range for this game

i dont mind ships, nothing against them, but i doubt any will be used. the big ship was probably only put in as it was there from the start of the development of the game.

[Spetznaz]

And new Islands, would be cool... to,
and about the Mi-28 Havoc, I think that the Ka-50 Hokun-A would be better, since he had his first flight in 1982 and the Russian Army, choose him to replace the Mi-24 Hind.
And the T-80 should have a anti-tank missile (AT-8 or AT-11 I don't know)

[Casto]

yess, i agree. we need new and larger island, with bridges.
good for missions like defend the bridge or destroy the bridge.

[DVII]

I want to see motorcycles.
And the RPK74/47

I know this ain't possible but underground stuff would be cool.

[sgtdwetzel]

Instead of adding all this other stuff.....how about we have them concentrate on faults that are already there:

- THROWING GRENADES
Why, when laying prone, do you stand up to throw a grenade and expose yourself to fire?? Correct it to an over-the-head toss and not as much range

- BUILDINGS
Why can't we go into every building?http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

- MEDICS
Every US Army soldier carries bandages for first aid. Why not the option of getting under cover, and "Apply Field Dressing to Wound"http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif??

- EMPTY WEAPONS
Ability to drop empty weapons(addressed MANY times before)

- M203
The M16 w/M203 mounted has its own independant sight for firing grenades...where is it?http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif?

- M1A1
I'm not even gonna go there(I've been a M1A1 tanker for the last 11 years...many faults there)

Just my 2 cents here

[PalpatineII]

There are a few things I would like to see in future updates:
1. A militairy transport plane like the C-130 on both allied and soviet side. Don't you think it is rather stupid to insert troopers with a chute from a chopper, the thing can also just land or hover to make the insertion.

2. A good mortar with a crew of two or 3 man, not the silly grenades you can fire from your rifle but a real mortar.

3. Trenches a position is very difficult to defend now, with a few tanks and some infantry you can take every posistion you want, (unless the enememy has got a nice chopper hanging over the target of course).

4. A good boat for armor transportation. With the 1.30 update they inserted an transporter wich can't do much more than float.

Well there are a few more things but these are the ones I miss the most right now.

[Havelock]

Ok ... my tuppence worth ....

C-130 - Yes! Short landing capability, paratroop drops, good possibilities for scenario design, etc. Soviet equivalent as well please.

Tactical aircraft - No! With the possible exception of the Harrier and some COIN aircraft it would not add a lot to the game and ... on a practical level ... the game engine is not up to it.

Helicopters - Sure. Currently I see no game advantages to taking an OH-58 on a mission instead of an AH-1, but it adds options to scenario designers. More the merrier.

Guns, etc - Sure. Again ... I doubt it would make much difference to game balance, just a different name and shape. But for the sake of accuracy in introducing other nations (A Falkland Islands campaign almost fits timeline and island scenery (add more rain and some penguins)) it would be worth it..

Civilians - Yes ... all sorts. For cut-scenes and a resistance based scenario.

Basically I don't mind as long it is accurate and either 1985 specific or CLEARLY labeled as anachronistic.

[Havelock]

Oh I forgot ...... ARTILLERY!

Mortors, field guns (very popular with Soviet forces), Katushas, etc, etc.

[MotherRussiaAK74]

Katyushas would devistate those little islands...

[dkraver]

Made this list on general board some time ago fits more here but here is what i think would be nice

Resistance:
BTR 60 (Amphibious APC)
T-34 (WW2 tank) used in most of the conflicts in former east europe like Yugoslavia, Kosovo and former russian states
Sherman (WW2 Tank) same as above just not that much

why: all 3 are old stuff that would display what a resistance army would be able to grab. the BTR is a man mover and and the two ww2 tanks could be used as fire support but not really like tanks because of low caliber. (Used like that in Bosnia)

Russians:
PT-76 (Light Amphibious tank) Would be great for beach landings
BMD (Light airborne combat vehicle) air dropped very light tank. Should say it all =)
BTR 70/80 ( Whelled Amphibious APC)
2S1 / 2S3 (122mm / 152mm self propelled howitzers) Would be nice with some artillery support

why: PT 76 and BMD would be a major add to game play. Fire support for a beach landings and air assault without having to place tanks on beach/land from the start. BTR's are need to get and equal to the m113 which the BTR are and not the BRDM which is a recon unit. BTR's are only armed with a 14.5mm turret gun. And then theres the 2S1/2S3 are self propelled howitzers and i dont think the islands are to small, well desert island is http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif


US:
Jeep with TOW
HMMWV with M2
HMMWV with M60
HMMWV with MARK19 (Full auto grenade launcher)
All 3 are used in US army today
AAV 7 (Amphibious Attack Vehicle) For those beach landings again
M109 (155mm self propelled howitzers) Same as on russian side

why : Jeep/HMMWV are to get more different light vehicles and also they are used like that today. AAV 7 is for beachlandings without using a patrol boat. And last theres a self propelled howitzer for US side.

And as a last thing sure lets get some mortars and/or towed artillery. Great for interacting firesupports and TARGETS. The static artillery in game cant do nothing.

(Edited by dkraver at 12:07 am on Nov. 20, 2001)

[drewb99]

I ahve doubts over having 4 different Humvees in the game http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

And a C-130 would be pretty foolish, it's so big it's not even worth it. It'd take a LOT more than the Malden airfield to get one airborne.

I'd rather have the quaint little C-27A Spartan:
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/c-27-9811253a.jpg

And the AN-26 Curl:
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/an-26-DAST8604155.jpg

The KA-50, though, a bad idea. It was barely on the drawing boards in 1985. We should settle for a KA-29B:
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/helix_1.jpg

[Aaron Kane]

d*amn, good suggestion Drew! I especially like the two transports.

[WTFonslaught]

Huey UH-1 (H variant)

also an "elite" mode, where injured troops must be ferried via medevac to nearest field hospitals etc..

[M79]

General
* AT3 visible on the BMP1 Launch Rail ( it was in the Demo and it is shown on the BIS site in their latest Screenshots)
*HMG to work on the Mi17
*A proper East HMG , like the NVS 12.7mm
*BRDM-2 & Hummers Armour Values Fixed
*Turret with 14.5mm KPVT in the BRDM-2
*M60 for the Hummer
*T-80 to have ATGM capabilities
*Fix Armour values for all Tanks.

Vehicle Add-ons
*BTR-70
*LAV-25
*Mi-6 Hvy Transport Chopper (Equivalent to Chinook)

Weapon Add-ons
*M14
*RPK-74
*NVS 12.7mm
*KPVT 14.5mm (for BTR-80/BRDM-2)
*SPG-9 73mm RR
*M40 106mm RR
*M47 Dragon
*AT-7 "Saxhorn" 9P151 launcher (Man Portable 5-20kg)
*Mortars

[fixOPFsoundsplease]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">2. A good mortar with a crew of two or 3 man, not the silly grenades you can fire from your rifle but a real mortar. [/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

3. A good Machine Gun with a crew of two or 3 man, not the silly one man M60 pig without ammo and tripod type stand, a Heavy Machine Gun setup with a specialist Fixtures like a tripod. And NO not the M2 .50 that thing is a cannon i hate it! ... we want a 7.62 51mm NATO MG team with ammo carrying and officer (Private ammo, Sgt Firing, Officer commanding)

(Edited by fixOPFsoundsplease at 7:22 am on Nov. 20, 2001)

[fixOPFsoundsplease]

I'd like big addon pack full of Ambient loops....really good 400m plus AK clacking and such...and perhaps more distant .50 cal and Arty thumps and bopping.

Those that complain that one (bad yes) loop we have now is poor realism...it might be an aweful loop (because of the content arangement not quality) but the 'Guys tapping on pots and pans' is realistic...if you ever go to shooting clubs/ranges or have been in the military you would know - or even from good quality audio recordings.

The best part of that ambient loop (the one, the only) we have now, is the first few distant arty thuds...if that were extended without any of the terrible gun fire and cheapass explosions (at the end of the loop)arangements - it would be good.

Just have a one minute sample of distant .50 cal guns and the Bombs/Artillery thumps - keep it all very subtle and in the background no clear samples - THAT would be great.

[Havelock]

A C-130, even if it couldn't land (and I contend that it could on Malden field), would be good for ... what's the d*amn acronym ... LAPES (?) Basically parachuting heavy equipment at low altitude. Delivery of vehicles straight to (near) the FEBA. Good scenario design possibilities there.

[sgtvor]

I beleive in an interview question long, long ago, someone at BIS stated that they didn't want to add a plane like the C-130 until they could have the player run out the back door himself.

Obiviously, this is pretty much an unrealistic goal for OFP...but d*amn wouldnt' it be cool? :-)

Sgtvor

[fixOPFsoundsplease]

HALO...

And its anything but "High Altitude Low Operation"

LOL! what is HALO again?

[dkraver]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from fixOPFsoundsplease on 10:38 am on Nov. 20, 2001
HALO...

And its anything but "High Altitude Low Operation"

LOL! what is HALO again?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>


High Altitude Low opening

HAHO

High Altitude High Opening

[EagleEye125]

Why Not Make Submarines And Big Cruisers Where Chopper Can Land on An More Like Sea Mines A Big Sea Battle Would Be Cool What We Got Now In Operaton Flashpoint Is Not ENOUGH!!!!!

[WebDog]

Pistols....
Chopper blades that HURTY!
When a driver in a car is shot...the car continues going for a while. Same when a person ejects.
Better physics. "Wow....that T-80 can BOUNCE!"

[fixOPFsoundsplease]

Hey, I think this could be added - remember it _was_ an itch in the designers balls back in '85!

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/tiger-uht.jpg
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/tiger-671.jpg

(Edited by fixOPFsoundsplease at 5:56 am on Nov. 21, 2001)

[chuanren]

or how bout the Havoc???i am sick of western choppers

[fixOPFsoundsplease]

No you are'nt - only!

WE ALL ARE HeHe!

Russia needs like 4 new choppers.. Hokey for one.

[chuanren]

nvm......
i think a C-5 Galaxy is nice or a AN-225

[Krechet1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from chuanren on 6:01 am on Nov. 21, 2001
nvm......
*** i think a C-5 Galaxy is nice or a AN-225[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

An-225 would take up the whole island to just part. That thing can lift bloody 250000kg of cargo!

It surpasses AN-124 by 50% in size and AN-124 is about 30% bigger than C-5 Galaxy in turn.

[brgnorway]

Bofors L60 40mm would do wonders in this game. Lots of countries has used/is using it, and it would be very versatile.

[ABN RGR SF]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from M79 on 7:05 am on Nov. 20, 2001
General
* AT3 visible on the BMP1 Launch Rail ( it was in the Demo and it is shown on the BIS site in their latest Screenshots)
*HMG to ***work on the Mi17
*A proper East HMG , like the NVS 12.7mm
*BRDM-2 & Hummers Armour Values Fixed
*Turret with 14.5mm KPVT in the BRDM-2
*M60 for the Hummer
*T-80 to have ATGM capabilities
*Fix Armour values for all Tanks.

Vehicle Add-ons
*BTR-70
*LAV-25
*Mi-6 Hvy Transport Chopper (Equivalent to Chinook)

Weapon Add-ons
*M14
*RPK-74
*NVS 12.7mm
*KPVT 14.5mm (for BTR-80/BRDM-2)
*SPG-9 73mm RR
*M40 106mm RR
*M47 Dragon
*AT-7 "Saxhorn" 9P151 launcher (Man Portable 5-20kg)
*Mortars
[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

I disagree with you on the "M60 for the Hummer", the HMMWV ***should have either the T.O.W or the .50cal on it. ***All your other ideas are good though

(Edited by ABN RGR SF at 9:02 am on Nov. 21, 2001)

[Lucidity]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from sgtvor on 10:34 am on Nov. 20, 2001
I beleive in an interview question long, long ago, someone at BIS stated that they didn't want to add a plane like the C-130 until they could have the player run out the back door himself.
Obiviously, this is pretty much an unrealistic goal for OFP...but d*amn wouldnt' it be cool? :-)

Sgtvor

[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
What if they gave you the ability to change positions while the plane was moving, so if you were sitting down the in the cargo bay you could move to a standing up position just behind the door. It wouldn't be exactly running out, but once you ejected you would have a simular feeling. It would seem pretty easy to implement, but maybe more difucult to make an animation of the door opening?

[Krull SGC]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from M79 on 7:05 am on Nov. 20, 2001
General
* AT3 visible on the BMP1 Launch Rail ( it was in the Demo and it is shown on the BIS site in their latest Screenshots)
*HMG to ***work on the Mi17
*A proper East HMG , like the NVS 12.7mm
*BRDM-2 & Hummers Armour Values Fixed
*Turret with 14.5mm KPVT in the BRDM-2
*M60 for the Hummer
*T-80 to have ATGM capabilities
*Fix Armour values for all Tanks.

Vehicle Add-ons
*BTR-70
*LAV-25
*Mi-6 Hvy Transport Chopper (Equivalent to Chinook)

Weapon Add-ons
*M14
*RPK-74
*NVS 12.7mm
*KPVT 14.5mm (for BTR-80/BRDM-2)
*SPG-9 73mm RR
*M40 106mm RR
*M47 Dragon
*AT-7 "Saxhorn" 9P151 launcher (Man Portable 5-20kg)
*Mortars
[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

From what I have read on www.fas.org (http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m14.htm) the M21 Sniper rifle we already have is just an accurized (i.e converted) M14 NM rifle, so maybe someone in the community could convert it to the M14 for us.

[Crazed Killa]

Heres a ***unofficail addon for a m14: http://opflashpoint.gamersrevolt.com/cgi-bin....pl?http (http://opflashpoint.gamersrevolt.com/cgi-bin/schlabo/dl.pl?http://opflashpoint.gamersrevolt.com/download/addon/m14---zip)

[ChickenHawk]

Is there going to be another add on? I hope there is but I heard that v30 was the last one..

[Havelock]

I know this is jumping back in the thread a bit (but I don't really care). HALO is a method of inserting special forces, designed to get your guy in quick and unseen (and probably break his legs). This LAPES (which I think is correct, but not sure) stands for (I ... again ... think) Low Altitude Parachute Extraction System. There you fly low in your C-130 or whatever, with you tank, jeeps etc on a huge pallet and then shove it out the back. From there it descends not so gently to earth.

I just think it would be a cool thing to see. (If not particularly useful in the game)

[fixOPFsoundsplease]

The hummer with an m60 would be realistic...and alright..but not to efficiant at taken down people quick..so yep.

And as for the .50 cal, they need to make the sound on it with less hammer - more muffled deep bopping.

[Soon2B 2nd LT]

I only ask for minor addons. First of all the m60 is a crew served weapon but in the game a single guy can run around with it and shoot it like rambo. They're heavy and belt fed. It just doesnt work that way. I think it would make a lot more sense to have the m249 SAW put into the game. It may not fit into the timeline but then again, neither do half the new weapons, so why not add the SAW to make at least some aspect more realistic?
Probably my biggest issue with the game is the lack of ammo. I'm always running out of ammo. I hope BIS fixes this. For example, a grenadier would never go into battle carrying only 3 clips of ammo and 2 m203 grenades. At least a slightly more realistic loadout could be 6 clips of ammo and 6 m203 grenades. Or an m60 gunner could have 600 rounds of ammo rather than the current 300 or so. You get the idea…I hope.
Some ideas I’ve read in these forums are good. I'm completely for the mortar idea, claymores, and the fast ropes/ladders to deploy and/or mount helicopters. It's ridiculous watching guys parachute out of a chopper from 200 feet. I sure hope BIS takes these ideas into consideration.
Oh and the humvee should have a .50 cal turret on top or a auto grenade launcher . Why the #### did they put the humvee in with no weapon?

[Stag]

ZU23 for the resistance, perhaps even mounted on the back of a truck. Pretty common pice of kit in the middle east.

[ChickenHawk]

BTW that choppers a european chopper, the tiger or somethin,, I cant b bothered to get all the techincal details on it but u can bet yo azz its a european chopper & theres no official european forces in OFP which I think sux imho..