User Monetization of BI's games Audio&Video content(e.g. Youtube Partnership Program)

[Dwarden]

Steps needed to obtain License

1. Download attached document " Bohemia_Interacttive_Youtube_approval_new_2013.PDF "
2. Fill the date, name
3. Write email, include Your website, YT/Vimeo etc. channels (if You have more than 10k users and 100k/work views then mention it in bold)
4. Use subject named [Audio&Video Monetization]+your subject text
5. send to following email(s) to me (yours lovely Community Manager :p )
David.Foltyn
and copy to our PR staff
Ota.Vrtatko
a.t. @<hidden> bistudio d.o.t. com

6. NOTE: this is one way process (don't expect us send you anything) !

you announce to us with the signed document (+details filled) then you tell Youtube etc. you did that + link them to post #1 in this thread

the PDF text contains



Dear Sir,

'BOHEMIA INTERACTIVE' GRANTS TO '' (“THE APPLICANT“)

A PERSONAL, NON-EXCLUSIVE, NON-TRANSFERABLE LICENSE TO USE AND
DISPLAY GAME CONTENT (“THE CONTENT”)

AND TO CREATE DERIVATIVE WORKS BASED UPON AUDIO & VIDEO
CAPTURE/RECORDING (“THE WORK“) OF(“THE CONTENT”),

FOR A WORLDWIDE COMMERCIAL USE OF (“THE WORK“) BASED ON FULL, DEMO VERSIONS OF

"POUND OF GROUND", "ALTERNATIVA", "THE FISH FILLETS 2","PAT & MAT", "MEMENTO MORI"
"ARMA: COLD WAR ASSAULT", "ARMA: COMBAT OPERATIONS", "ARMA: GOLD", "ARMA 2",
"ARMA 2: OPERATION ARROWHEAD", "ARMA 2: COMBINED OPERATIONS",
"ARMA 2: BRITISH ARMED FORCES", "ARMA 2: PRIVATE MILITARY COMPANY",
"ARMA 2: REINFORCEMENTS", "ARMA 2: ARMY OF CZECH REPUBLIC"
"ARMA 2: FIRING RANGE", "ARMA 2: COMPLETE COLLECTION"
"TAKE ON HELICOPTERS", "TAKE ON HELICOPTERS: HINDS",
"TAKE ON HELICOPTERS: NOISECONTROLLERS", "TAKE ON HELICOPTERS: REARMED",
"CARRIER COMMAND: GAEA MISSION",
"ARMA 3",
,
(“THE GAMES”), UNDER THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:

1. BOHEMIA INTERACTIVE IS INFORMED BY (“THE APPLICANT“) ABOUT ANY (“THE WORK“)
RELEASE CONTAINING (“THE CONTENT”)BASED ON (“THE GAMES”)[/SIZE][/FONT]

2.BOHEMIA INTERACTIVE RESERVES THE RIGHT TO OBJECT AGAINST A(“THE WORK“).
IN THAT CASE (“THE APPLICANT“) AGREES TO REMOVE THE (“THE WORK“) IN QUESTION
AS SOON AS POSSIBLE (NO LONGER THAN 60 DAYS PERIOD).

3.BOHEMIA INTERACTIVE RESERVES THE RIGHT TO CANCEL ANYTIME THIS
LICENSE AND (“THE APPLICANT“) AGREES TO NOT RELEASE ANY ADDITIONAL(“THE WORK“)

4.(“THE APPLICANT“) AGREES TO INCLUDE INTO EVERY (“THE WORK“)
AND IT'S DESCRIPTION THE FOLLOWING NOTICE:

"This video is created using games from Bohemia Interactive.
See www.bistudio.com (http://www.bistudio.com) for more information."

5.IF (“THE APPLICANT“)'s INCOME FROM(“THE WORK“) CONTAINING(“THE CONTENT”)
BASED ON (“THE GAMES”) BECOME HIGHER THAN 1 THOUSAND EURO (EUROPEAN UNION) / USD (REST OF WORLD)
PER MONTH THEN (“THE APPLICANT“) MUST INFORM BOHEMIA INTERACTIVE AND OBTAIN NEW LICENSE APPROVAL


Example of use:

You record video of Your 100vs100 battle on server and want upload it to Your Youtube account
(monetizing is paid by Google for ads shown etc.) this license approval can be used for passing Google's rules on the granted rights

Note:
you make audio and/or video using our games content or our media content and then want get or get profit off it ?
you need to have or obtain license approval
any text related work (e.g. story set in ARMA's universum needs extra approval/changed license etc.)
You don't need re-edit and reupload already uploaded videos, you will lose Your YT view counts etc.

You don't need to wait for us to reply, the must key is fill the form and send it to us ...
so we are aware of Your existance

if You need acknowledge from us please send us another email asking for it explicitly
and define if you need it as document or just email


Addenum:
Non-profit a&v cases stays same as until now !
This doesn't cover anything from user-made content,
for that You need obtain approval from the respective IP owners.


HTTP download: http://downloads.bistudio.com/youtube/Bohemia_Interactive_Youtube_approval_new_2013.pdf

[Dwarden]

Thread opened , only for discussion related to A&V monetizing licenses

[Minoza]

So, if I got this right, if we want to upload some gameplay for example from mentioned games to YT, we need BIS approval? What happens with already uploaded stuff?

[Dwarden]

this is related only to situation(s) where You making profit, hence the monetization word in subject ...

if You already do that then i wonder how You could obtain Google's approval w/o our approval :)
in that case i suggest double fast to sign and send ...

[b00ce]

This is the legal mumbo-jumbo for making money off of the videos. ;)

You can still upload ArmA vids without a license, as long as you don't make money off of it.

Edit:
Damn, ninjaed.

[Sniperwolf572]

So, if I got this right, if we want to upload some gameplay for example from mentioned games to YT, we need BIS approval? What happens with already uploaded stuff?

As far as I understand it, this is about giving video authors permissions to get money from Google for the ads they server over your videos of the games listed above. Non profit videos are not affected.

Edit:
Double ninja'd. :(

[Minoza]

Oh ok then, thx for replies, I understand now. And no, I'm not making any money from the uploaded vids. :D

[paecmaker]

So this wont affect me if I dont make any money( or trying to) from youtube videos containing BIS material.

[Dwarden]

So this wont affect me if I dont make any money( or trying to) from youtube videos containing BIS material.

erm, what says last line in first post :)

[paecmaker]

erm, what says last line in first post :)

sorry :o missed it, (how I could do that)

[zaidtherion]

1. BOHEMIA INTERACTIVE IS INFORMED BY (“THE APPLICANT“) ABOUT ANY (“THE WORK“) RELEASE CONTAINING (“THE CONTENT”)BASED ON (“THE GAMES”)

Does this mean we have to notify you for every individual video we upload, or is just the youtube channel enough? and who do we notify/what email do we send the notification to?

[=WFL= Sgt Bilko]

Edit: Disregard, just developed a temporary reading dyslexic condition :D !

[Dwarden]

Does this mean we have to notify you for every individual video we upload, or is just the youtube channel enough? and who do we notify/what email do we send the notification to?

ofcourse multiple works, this is license covering any and all work related to content from titles mentioned

[AlabasterSlim]

4.(“THE APPLICANT“) AGREES TO INCLUDE INTO EVERY (“THE WORK“)
AND IT'S DESCRIPTION THE FOLLOWING NOTICE:

"This video is created using games from Bohemia Interactive.
See www.bistudio.com for more information."

For existing videos, would we have to re-edit and add this text into the video itself and re-upload, or can adding this to the description be sufficient?

[Minoza]

I'm somewhat convinced that people still believe they need to do this even if they don't earn money from it... Either that or a lot of guys here make profit with their YT channels.

[Jsmuk]

The timing of this thread is amazing, I have been thinking about this recently.

Anyway, a question. If I upload a video that contains addons, do I have to get permission from the creator of said addon? Im aware that it seems to mention this in the first post but maybe its because I am tired I am not quite understanding it. For example if I was to record gameplay on a custom island would I need permision from the maker of the island as well?

[Max Power]

Here are some factors for your consideration:

BIS allows content makers to retain the copyright of their stuff, therefore I do not think that BIS can authorize third parties to make money off of their work. It seems like any money being made off of third party addon content should be up to the person who holds to copyright to that work.

Many content licenses preclude using the addon/map/mod/script/sound pack in commerical products. Making a video and selling adspace on it is a commercial excercise.

It seems like if you are considering making money off of someone else's work, and their license prevents that (either directly by mentioning it or indirectly by NOT mentioning it), then you are at risk for a number of very messy things that I'm sure are not worth the revenue you are generating.

Nevermind addon rights issues, or anything like community credit, or that sort of thing: when there is money involved there are actual provable damages that are easily quantifiable.

[Dwarden]

The timing of this thread is amazing, I have been thinking about this recently.

Anyway, a question. If I upload a video that contains addons, do I have to get permission from the creator of said addon? Im aware that it seems to mention this in the first post but maybe its because I am tired I am not quite understanding it. For example if I was to record gameplay on a custom island would I need permision from the maker of the island as well?

you need obtain approval to use our license plus obtain approval from the author of the addon(s)

[CHKilroy]

As per the first requirement of the PDF, how do we notify Bohemia Interactive of new works we wish to monetize? For example, when it comes to a single YouTube video, do we email the two addresses in the first post with the URL and PDF attached?

Assuming that is true, if we create a second video an hour later, do we do the same? Going on, if we create a third video the next day, do we change the date in the PDF and send the URL, etc, again? By all means spell it out for me, because I question the scalability of the system as I understand it, particularly for users who create and upload a number of monetizeable videos per week, unless there is a person at Bohemia Interactive whose job is "YouTube watcher."

[Jsmuk]

you need obtain approval to use our license plus obtain approval from the author of the addon(s)

Thank you for clearing that up, it makes more sense now.

[JuggernautOfWar]

Hold on... I can make money from my ArmA youtube videos?!

[Mr Burns]

Hold on... I can make money from my ArmA youtube videos?!

Through Google AdSense, yes.
YT will put a notice about it in your video manager when you (your videos) eligible for it.

Haven´t come around trying it yet, as AdSense is like an ancient chinese riddlebox for me.


edit: http://www.youtube.com/account_monetization

[Dwarden]

As per the first requirement of the PDF, how do we notify Bohemia Interactive of new works we wish to monetize? For example, when it comes to a single YouTube video, do we email the two addresses in the first post with the URL and PDF attached?

Assuming that is true, if we create a second video an hour later, do we do the same? Going on, if we create a third video the next day, do we change the date in the PDF and send the URL, etc, again? By all means spell it out for me, because I question the scalability of the system as I understand it, particularly for users who create and upload a number of monetizeable videos per week, unless there is a person at Bohemia Interactive whose job is "YouTube watcher."

while i said before it covers multiple works, but not projects e.g. if You have 2 different websites or two channels with separated content, You need 'inform' us with sending another emai lwith new license ...

remember it's not just for You being covered but us keeping track who/where/why/how which might come handy e.g. when giving a&v content makers something ahead etc.

[James2464]

AFAIK, BI has to actively protect its IP. If it doesn't take a proactive stance, it can place their claims of ownership in jeopardy. So what are they going to do if they find themselves behind the 8 ball and having to suddenly protect their property? Sue the whole internet?

This is a fascinating discussion, this is the problem for the Film industry currently except their behind the 8 Ball (hehe).

I agree with the licensing of ad-sense videos however I would like to see BIS take on intellectual property in a different way... Perhaps there is money to be made from community content? What if through the collaboration of the community modders and BIS they create a "Community DLC"? a particular project that encompasses all the talent for a unified goal of creating something truly unique and special in the gaming industry.

Just a thought.

[Dwarden]

i wonder if some of You actually understood the subject or just rant for sake of ranting ...

the thing is, that some people make some money using our content/engine ....
and they either not asked us for aproval yet or need it to not break service rules, laws and IP licencing etc.

this covers it, makes theirs life easier as they have covered the approval for the sites they use (
it's not just Google, there dozens similar networks for both video and audio)

in rare cases someone makes hefty amount of money from this, he will need contact us again
where we will set individual license type for him

if that's not fair , what's it?

---

@<hidden> ... Your rant makes no sense at all, first warning for useless clutter
giving credits is part of good manners ... and even mentioning what addons You used in video helps more people to find new modifications

[antoineflemming]

This is a fascinating discussion, this is the problem for the Film industry currently except their behind the 8 Ball (hehe).

I agree with the licensing of ad-sense videos however I would like to see BIS take on intellectual property in a different way... Perhaps there is money to be made from community content? What if through the collaboration of the community modders and BIS they create a "Community DLC"? a particular project that encompasses all the talent for a unified goal of creating something truly unique and special in the gaming industry.

Just a thought.

Yeah, but this whole issue is specifically concerning people who want to make money from videos. It's not about BIS finding some new way to make money or finding ways for community members to make money.

FACT: There are people who are making, or attempting to make, money off of videos of BIS content.

Problem: There needs to be some legal way for them to do that.

Solution: Require a license, which those users can get in order to monetize their videos.

What's so wrong about that?

[Dwarden]

It's not about BIS finding some new way to make money or finding ways for community members to make money.


just slight correction, this may not be true if You making the amount over 1k/month, hence why it needs new individual license ...

we're trying to be fair for these who make it for free and then split between these who do it for small profit or for serious profit

[Gazzareth]

just slight correction, this may not be true if You making the amount over 1k/month, hence why it needs new individual license ...

we're trying to be fair for these who make it for free and then split between these who do it for small profit or for serious profit

Surely you should be paying them, if they are making 1k a month out of video's showing your game / engine then you are probably getting 10's (or 100's) of k per month of free advertising.

G

[sparks50]

This "regime" is actually a positive initiative. It gives Let's Players, Machinima people and others an alternative to get some money back for their time.

[ZNorQ]

This "regime" is actually a very positive initiative. It gives Let's Players, Machinima people and others an alternative to get some money back for their time.

Aren't they already? BIS isn't thinking about Machinima, they are thinking of their own coffers. Which they should ofcourse, only that all the bloody let's plays out there are free advertising for all those games. BIS could just look at it as paying for advertising, and they wouldn't have to spend a dime on it. Further, the more and broader the audience, the more potential for customers... This is advertising guys! You're just making a regime that eventually everybody will leave out because they can't bother the bureaucracy.

PS! I don't do let's play, I don't plan to do let's play - I just enjoy them - and buy the games!

PS2! Ever heard of Minecraft. Like that would happen if it wasn't for youtube????

ZNorQ

[sparks50]

The Minecraft terms of use says that you're free to do whatever you want with screenshots and videos of the game, as long as you don't rip art from it. This may partly explain why there are so many Minecraft Lets plays on Youtube. So its interesting that you bring up a game with kind of a similar deal.

[Smurf]

Is BIS getting any money from the user (which made the video) with this?
Or this is just legal stuff for the users that made the videos to legally get the money from Ads ?

Or both?

[Tonci87]

Is BIS getting any money from the user (which made the video) with this?




NO unless you make more than 1000€



Or this is just legal stuff for the users that made the videos to legally get the money from Ads ?

YES

[Dwarden]

note: you don't need re-edit and reupload already uploaded videos, you will lose Your YT view counts etc.

---------- Post added at 18:34 ---------- Previous post was at 18:33 ----------


NO unless you make more than 1000€
YES

nobody said anything about charging, that's up to individual license terms ...

[antoineflemming]

just slight correction, this may not be true if You making the amount over 1k/month, hence why it needs new individual license ...

we're trying to be fair for these who make it for free and then split between these who do it for small profit or for serious profit

I wasn't even thinking about people making that much.... Serious profit never crossed my mind.

[Dwarden]

Aren't they already? BIS isn't thinking about Machinima, they are thinking of their own coffers. Which they should ofcourse, only that all the bloody let's plays out there are free advertising for all those games. BIS could just look at it as paying for advertising, and they wouldn't have to spend a dime on it. Further, the more and broader the audience, the more potential for customers... This is advertising guys! You're just making a regime that eventually everybody will leave out because they can't bother the bureaucracy.

PS! I don't do let's play, I don't plan to do let's play - I just enjoy them - and buy the games!

PS2! Ever heard of Minecraft. Like that would happen if it wasn't for youtube????

ZNorQ


Surely you should be paying them, if they are making 1k a month out of video's showing your game / engine then you are probably getting 10's (or 100's) of k per month of free advertising.

G

it's no free advertising, they make a cash on our content, not just theirs creativity

consider it like mixing up music, mixing/rehashing movie content, all that if generates profit usually needs license/IP owner approval

anyway once again i suggest everyone to read the original post, read the document and read all my answers ...

absurd construct about conspiracies shall go into offtopic

[Smurf]

NO unless you make more than 1000€


YES


note: you don't need re-edit and reupload already uploaded videos, you will lose Your YT view counts etc.

---------- Post added at 18:34 ---------- Previous post was at 18:33 ----------



nobody said anything about charging, that's up to individual license terms ...


Thank you, that clears up everything.

[SpetS15]

I first thought that monetization (Im not YT partner) was something like 1 cent per view (lol), but then I hear that somebody have to click the Add in the video, and nobody does that, and you cant tell your friends to do that neither, and since I only have like 180 subscribers, it doesnt even worth for me :( anyway, it was only to support a little bit our server :s

[Dwarden]

again @<hidden> you don't understood the license term nor the subject ...
media subjects are approved to use what we release via press releases and press channels ...
which You obviously not aware of theirs existence at all nor of existance of press-kits
etc.

[Max Power]

Thread cleaned up.

Please only comment if you have specific comments or questions about the Partnership Program. This thread is to announce the program, to explain it, and to aid users in understanding and using it. This is not discussion about the commercialization of the internet at large.

[walker]

Hi all

Case 1) No money make. Therefor no worry have.

Case 2) Use BIS program as tool to earn Money: Therefor Is a Business: Therefor must have a Business License. Dotting "i"s and crossing "t"s of doing Business. Its on the web as an AV, so your income is reported by Youtube or whoever, as they report all their payments to your national the tax office, and employ lots of people just to do to this; so they can claim you as a business expense! So you have to tell your national tax man, any way. (dependent on what you can earn before having to declare for tax)

Case 3 Use BIS program as tool to earn more than 1000 Dollars or Euros a month: Therefore is a succesful Business: So time to speak to BIS about License, probably, give BIS a cut, let BIS approve content as it is influential on their products market, and maybe do some work for/with BIS. Happy Grin time. If you are paying for a license as a percentage or whatever license model BIS choose, then you want to declare any payments made to BIS as a business cost as it comes off your profit and you can only be taxed on profit! No sense in you paying the tax on money you did not earn!

Kind Regards walker

[Engioc]

Ah hi, I'd like to ask a question about this if I can. I do post youtube videos of ArmA and if its now possible for me to use the monetizing feature of youtube I'd like to.

Maybe this question is better directed at youtube but it is possible for me to use monetizing on BIS videos while at the same time not using it for others. I post videos of many different games and obviously unless they follow what BIS is doing then I cant use monetizing on those videos.

Actually don't answer that, I figured it out myself, I'll be sending you my PDF shortly :).

One more question though, any problem with me somehow sharing this info on my facebook page? I'm always happy to help promote BIS.

[Icewindo]

Hey guys,

do I need to wait for confirmation by BIS after sending the mail or can I add the disclaimer mentioned in the license to the relevant videos and directly apply for YT monetization? That's unclear for me.

And thanks again for giving us this opportunity :bounce3: .

[Foxhound]

2 infractions in the past 3 posts (deleted posts). Some of you need to read the topic and follow the instructions given by a moderator:


Thread cleaned up.

Please only comment if you have specific comments or questions about the Partnership Program. This thread is to announce the program, to explain it, and to aid users in understanding and using it. This is not discussion about the commercialization of the internet at large.

[update]
3 infractions in the past 4 posts (deleted posts). Keep going, we have more than enough infractions left!

[Dwarden]

Hey guys,

do I need to wait for confirmation by BIS after sending the mail or can I add the disclaimer mentioned in the license to the relevant videos and directly apply for YT monetization? That's unclear for me.

And thanks again for giving us this opportunity :bounce3: .

You don't need to wait for us to reply, the must key is fill the form and send it to us ...
so we are aware of You

if You need acknowledge from us please send us another email asking for it explicitly
and define if you need it as document or just email

for some the 'deleted' posts if You read my answer now,
i hope You realize this license approve is huge 'plus' from our company
to make things simpler for these who want to make some $ on a&v monetizing

[kimozabbi]

I didn't notice any advertisements on the official ARMA 3 Youtube channel. Surely Bohemia Interactive could make some extra money by posting daily tidbits of information about ARMA 3 on their Youtube channel, it would attract plenty of views.

[Dwarden]

we may use some of the advertising on our channels but only these 'subtle' methods to not annoy users

[kimozabbi]

I wouldn't mind putting up with advertisements in trade for some ARMA 3 news, even if it was only small news. Actually I think most Bohemia Interactive fans would like to help BIS get some extra cash, everyone wins.

[Williams174th]

Read and understood.

[Nicholas]

I used to have a YouTube account, but deleted it. If I ever start up a new channel, I'll remember this. Can we still fill out the form in advanced if we decide in the future to become a YouTube Partner?

[MacScottie]

Ok can someone show me a filled out example of the PDF? I just don't know what exactly to put in all the "fill in the blank" spots. Additionally, how can I edit the PDF once I download it to fill the spots in? Are there any free PDF editing programs?

[Dwarden]

technically all you need fill is date, place Your name prior the first "the applicant" and sign the document

[b00ce]

How exactly do we sign the document? Do we have to print it out, sign it, then scan it back in to email it? Or do we just have to put our names down again?

[SmOOvDoGG]

technically all you need fill is date, place Your name prior the first "the applicant" and sign the document

Is this document once signed and a copy sent to BIS good enough to prove to Youtube that it is a legit license in case of a dispute? or would I require more documentation

[Dwarden]

it should be enough for YT and most of disputes, if not then write us for help :)

[SmOOvDoGG]

it should be enough for YT and most of disputes, if not then write us for help :)

Excellent, thanks Dwarden

[Schnell]

Where are the mail direcction.
Sorry i'm spansih

[McSpeed]

Where are the mail direcction.
Sorry i'm spansih
taken from 1st post:

5. send to following email(s) to me (yours lovely Community Manager )
David.Foltyn
and copy to our PR staff
Ota.Vrtatko
a.t. @<hidden> bistudio d.o.t. com

[Brink]

Can someone send me the full email's i need to send them to i don't get them with out all the stuff.

[IceBreakr]

Can someone explain this in short, as I get an email with this monetization thing almost on a daily basis?

[Smurf]

Can someone explain this in short, as I get an email with this monetization thing almost on a daily basis?
Walker sums up very well:
http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?133522-User-Monetization-of-BI-s-games-Audio-amp-Video-content%28e-g-Youtube-Partnership-Program%29&p=2137955&viewfull=1#post2137955

[Dwarden]

Any reason why this thread have to be global, after this time? Most here know about this by know, and the stickies are already clogging up the thread list. A way to hide individual threads from the list would be nice. I don't like where this is heading, and now I have to be reminded of it anywhere I go? Doesn't belong in most of the forums (according to me), totally off (forum) topic.

carl it's global because it's very important subject and it's not that easy find BI Web/General forum
and i'm sorry that there is no working plugin to ignore threads per user's wish for vB4 ...
i tried alter the v3 one w/o success so far

[Grierson]

I think this is fair. If your making money off there game then you should do it.

[Iroquois Pliskin]

carl it's global because it's very important subject and it's not that easy find BI Web/General forum
and i'm sorry that there is no working plugin to ignore threads per user's wish for vB4 ...
i tried alter the v3 one w/o success so far

I do acknowledge that curiosity killed the cat, though... is this a global practice - siphoning off of user-created content, albeit with the SDKs that you provide; global in the sense of the genre that you gentlemen compete in, meaning do BF3 devs, as an example, get a cut off every Machinima, that had ever been created?

As a conscious, selfish entity I applaud your efforts at finding extra streams of revenue, which inadvertently results in all sorts of improvements, such as expansion packs, patches and miscellaneous stuff - for the betterment of my own pleasure, of course. ;-)

[Rytuklis]

So. If i understood right - i upload a video with one of BIS games. If it reaches the certain view count and i get offered a partnership, i have to fill in this form, or..?

[Dwarden]

no, you always send us email, this is about You contact us with announce You going for monetizing of A&V and include the signed document ...
after reaching the $ mark You need contact us again for new license which is not generic anymore but individual per each subject

[PeteWaddell]

Someone might have already asked this but I dont have the time to read right now (bout to leave somewhere)...

So If I decide to partner up with youtube so I can upload long video's n stuff and maybe even earn a small profit from them.. can I just send in that Legal note (filled out) and ask if thats it? Like one approval and I can upload videos off the hook? Or must I send them a thingy every time I want to upload an arma video? :butbut:

[Dwarden]

it's one way system, you announce us with the signed document (and the details i ask in first post)
then You tell Youtube you did that and link them to post #1 in this thread

it's no different from Blizzard legal page or DCS simple post (which is even more simpler than this)

[PeteWaddell]

it's one way system, you announce us with the signed document (and the details i ask in first post)
then You tell Youtube you did that and link them to post #1 in this thread

it's no different from Blizzard legal page or DCS simple post (which is even more simpler than this)

Ahh Ok thanks for the help mate.

[aRaven]

Hey, if I have sent off a signed document to you guys, and one of my videos which includes visual and audio from one of your games is stolen and reuploaded by someone else - is there anything I can do?

[Dwarden]

you contact the YT or w/e it's uploaded, it's your A&V work stolen, you need take actions

[Abs]

you contact the YT or w/e it's uploaded, it's your A&V work stolen, you need take actions

Interesting though, as BIS requires a license to be signed for anyone to monetize videos, so wouldn't the thief also be using BIS' stuff without permission?

Abs

[aRaven]

The issue here is that when I go to the copyright infringement form, it doesn't allow for 3rd parties (myself, as I am not the copyright holder, but only someone who has permission to use the material) to submit copyright claims. I guess it is something I have to email them about...

I don't know how to solve this..

[tk1109]

the two emails that where on the original post they are not working for me i don't know why

[MacScottie]

Greetings Dwarden and other BI people,

I have recently had a run-in with the YouTube staff. They keep disabling monetization from my videos and I FINALLY got a response from them telling me why. I'll link the e-mails, but the short version of it is:

On this agreement .pdf, at the bottom, they want a Bohemia Representative "signature". The signature can simply be someone from Bohemia's name typed out in the agreement. Would it be possible to have the agreement updated with something like this?

Here are the e-mails, in order:



YouTube Partner Support partner-support@<hidden>

Jun 18 (3 days ago)

to me

Hi,

Your documentation does not appear to give sufficient COMMERCIAL rights
for your video to participate in monetization.

If you would like to learn about what YouTube looks for in your
documentation, refer to
http://support.google.com/youtube/bin/answer.py?answer=2490090. If you
would like to learn about how to read a license to understand your rights,
refer to http://support.google.com/youtube/bin/answer.py?answer=2490089.

Once you have the appropriate documentation, please email it to us as an
attachment.

Sincerely,

Kinga
The YouTube Team



Original Message Follows:
------------------------
From: jester814@<hidden>
Subject: YouTube Partner Support - Revenue Share Claim
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 15:23:12 +0000

> It's an ArmA 2 video, and for the 10th time or so, here is my approval.
Is
> there no way I can permanently upload this to my account or simply link
it
> to every video?
>
> AutoDetectedBrowser: Firefox 1
> AutoDetectedOS: Windows 7
> IIILanguage: en
> IssueType: revenue_share
> Language: en
> username: Jester814
> video_id: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndteSKvfw2w
> your_name: MacScottie



Jester 814

Jun 19 (2 days ago)

to YouTube

Greetings,

First of all, thank you for the reply.

The first thing I see is that you say that the Bohemia Interactive License does not allow "commercial" use of it's work, but the second paragraph in the license approval explicitly states:

"FOR A WORLDWIDE COMMERCIAL USE OF (“THE WORK“) BASED ON FULL, DEMO VERSIONS OF..."

...and then goes on to state a full list of games which include ArmA 2 and ArmA 2 OA, the game from which my monetized videos come.

Is that not sufficient comercial rights? It specifically states "for a worldwide commercial use"... I am quite confused. If not, what do I need to request from Bohemia Interactive? i.e. How do they need to word it in their license agreement so that ArmA videos stop getting de-monetised or not approved?

Also, I have attached another copy of their license permission/agreement. Bohemia is absolutely awesome when it comes to it's community and allowing videos from their games to be monetized. I'd like to get this sorted both for myself and for them.

Again, Thank you,

MacScottie




YouTube Partner Support partner-support@<hidden>

4:37 PM (2 hours ago)

to me

Hi MacScottie,

In the "What does YouTube look for in my documentation?" we list "Electronic signature with date. This can be as simple as the rights holder writing out full name at the bottom of the document"

This refers to the rights holder's signature.

Sincerely,

Kinga
The YouTube Team

So they want a signature from the "rights holder" at the bottom of the document. That's you BI. Can you help us out with this? I know you guys already give the community so much and ask for so little in return, but this would really help out the ArmA people that have youtube channels.

Thanks,

MacScottie

[jerryhopper]

i have ArmA content on my youtube, and im not using any partner-program whatoever.

However.... some video's have ADS due to the fact im using licenced music/sound.

since im not in the 'monetizing' program, im in the clear right?

[Dwarden]

tell that YT staff to contact me, i don't see other companies handing theirs signatures for generic public wide audience either

nor i don't see e.g. blizzard staff signed on theirs AV page ...

[MacScottie]

Thank you Dwarden. I have sent them an e-mail and CCd it to you. :)

[Icewindo]

Greetings Dwarden and other BI people,

I have recently had a run-in with the YouTube staff. They keep disabling monetization from my videos and I FINALLY got a response from them telling me why. I'll link the e-mails, but the short version of it is:

On this agreement .pdf, at the bottom, they want a Bohemia Representative "signature". The signature can simply be someone from Bohemia's name typed out in the agreement. Would it be possible to have the agreement updated with something like this?

Here are the e-mails, in order:

So they want a signature from the "rights holder" at the bottom of the document. That's you BI. Can you help us out with this? I know you guys already give the community so much and ask for so little in return, but this would really help out the ArmA people that have youtube channels.

Thanks,

MacScottie

Wow that's great you actually were in contact with YT? I failed to get monetization for some of my clear Vanilla ArmA2 videos and I stopped further monetizing actually because of these reasons. Please keep us posted on how this develops :) .

I filled in complaints to the 3 videos but they didn't even bother to answer -.- .

[tremanarch]

what is monetization? what does this mean what does it have to do with Arma or youtube or videos? can someone quick explain in 3 words?

Do we normal players need this?

[b00ce]

what is monetization? what does this mean what does it have to do with Arma or youtube or videos? can someone quick explain in 3 words?

Do we normal players need this?

Not unless said player wants to make money off of the video(s) they post.

[MacScottie]

Wow that's great you actually were in contact with YT? I failed to get monetization for some of my clear Vanilla ArmA2 videos and I stopped further monetizing actually because of these reasons. Please keep us posted on how this develops :) .

I filled in complaints to the 3 videos but they didn't even bother to answer -.- .

Well they just disabled my video again from yesterday for the same reason ><

I just checked my adsense and they have disabled over half my videos from this past month. My ArmA videos have almost 32000 views, but my adsense says only 15000 views. So mad right now.

[Icewindo]

Well they just disabled my video again from yesterday for the same reason ><

I just checked my adsense and they have disabled over half my videos from this past month. My ArmA videos have almost 32000 views, but my adsense says only 15000 views. So mad right now.

Yep seems like some youtube dude is hitting the keyboard randomly to decide which video to approve and which not.

The funny thing is that that they approved 3 of my vanilla ArmA2 videos without me even sending in the license.

I only attached the license to the complaints when they turned down the other vanilla videos (the complaints they didn't answer to) as there was no way to attach the license before.

That's youtube logic right there.

[Foxhound]

@<hidden> & PuFu
I guess you missed the part where a moderator instructed to not discuss this matter here? The topic is only to be used for questions related to the monetizing, not to discuss the monetizing and what you think of it or whatever!
Do not ignore a moderators instructions please.

[rainbird]

Foxhound: Geee, and my post was so thought provoking and relevant to the topic at hand and now it has been banished to electronic internet memory-hole. The internet is truly becoming a wonderful free form of communication :D

But message received loud and clear, sir. No more debating the matter.

[SLiiDE]

Hey, can someone post a filled out copy of the document. I'm not sure what I need to fill in and what i should put :L Would be extremely appreciated
EDIT- Or explain exactly what i need to change and what i need to change it to :)

[MacScottie]

SLiiDE, It won't matter because the document as it is currently isn't accepted by youtube. It will have to be updated first ><

[SpetS15]

I know BIS doesnt have nothing to do with the YT monetization rejection problem. It seems that its a global problem, many youtubers knows about it. Yesterday, I send like 10 old videos that I have in my channel, and only one was acepted, randomly by the way. Then I send the information and said "GO F* YOURSELF YOUTUBE AND PUT YOUR DIRTY SCAM IN YOUR *SSHOLE" nobody is going to read that anyway

[Icewindo]

I know BIS doesnt have nothing to do with the YT monetization rejection problem. It seems that its a global problem, many youtubers knows about it. Yesterday, I send like 10 old videos that I have in my channel, and only one was acepted, randomly by the way. Then I send the information and said "GO F* YOURSELF YOUTUBE AND PUT YOUR DIRTY SCAM IN YOUR *SSHOLE" nobody is going to read that anyway

I've also read that but in this specific case we have a clear answer from Youtube for MacScottie about the grounds.

Atleast if BIS renews the license with the information YT says that's missing or youtube sorts it out this will hopefully resolve.

[SneakyDuck]

Recently started monetizing my videos. After successfully monetizing 2 videos without having to do anything, 2 other ones were rejected after having to send the documentation. Well that's great, I'm missing some serious revenue here, I'm talking 42.000 views on one of them. Any word on what is causing this?

On a side note; it seems to be related to the length of the videos wether you need to document them or not, the 2 videos that were accepted are under a minute long, the ones that were rejected are over 5 minutes.

[SLiiDE]

Im uploading videos that are atleast 20 minutes each (sometimes 25-35 minutes). Can someone help me with the document on the OP post so i can atleast try and send it to Youtube.

[VIPER[CWW]]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a15bVDJwPtE&feature=plcp | https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC3B83CCB4163CEC2&feature=plcp

So what happens when big youtube partners make video's of ArmA 2 with mods involved? Surely it should be the same process, because for these guys, this is they're primary source of income. Tragic/Genius I know.

[Icewindo]

;2184921']https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a15bVDJwPtE&feature=plcp | https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC3B83CCB4163CEC2&feature=plcp

So what happens when big youtube partners make video's of ArmA 2 with mods involved? Surely it should be the same process, because for these guys, this is they're primary source of income. Tragic/Genius I know.

Well the YT partners who don't own a license justify this either by saying they do commentaries/reviews or just say they own all right to the content.

And small fish gets harassed by YT.

[VIPER[CWW]]

It can't be justified by saying its a review, they are simply playing together/alone while talking shite... that's all it is, meanwhile the people who have been playing arma and making video's of it for years don't get jack....

I would like to hear dwarden's stance on this.

[Icewindo]

;2185228']It can't be justified by saying its a review, they are simply playing together/alone while talking shite... that's all it is, meanwhile the people who have been playing arma and making video's of it for years don't get jack....

I would like to hear dwarden's stance on this.

I hear you... ArmA isn't the only game where this is happening.

YT usually plays ball though as their get their decent share of every adsense click (of YT partners- since they get alot more clicks). Only when a company would fill in a copyright note they'd take them down. I remember some dude getting his video channel locked for doing monetized "commentaries" on Assasins Creed when he got reported and Ubisoft got wind of it.

And judging from the FAQ commentaries still need a license



Can I monetize my video …

... if I am playing a video game, or doing a walkthrough?
Whether you can use video game content for monetization depends on the commercial use rights granted to you by licenses of video game publishers. Some video game publishers may allow you to use all video game content for commercial use and state that in their license agreements. Videos simply showing game play for extended periods of time may not be accepted for monetization.

... if I am doing a tutorial demonstrating use of a software?
You can monetize videos showing software user interface only if you have a contract with the publisher or you have paid a licensing fee. Otherwise, showing software user interface on your video has to be minimal unless providing instructional or educational value.


http://support.google.com/youtube/bin/www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2490020

[VIPER[CWW]]

I bet 'YT Partners' get to bypass these rules set. I can't see the likes of yogscast and/or paulsoaresjr making a licence for they're daily uploads. They are making a mint off A. Other peoples work B. Content not owned by them.

It's the same for all these so called Skyrim Mod reviewers, they just pic the hotspot mods and make a video which then gets franchised by the mod maker, thus giving the channel owner youtube partnership eventually. Oh so very angering. What happened to protecting peoples intellectual property.

[Icewindo]

;2185308']I bet 'YT Partners' get to bypass these rules set. I can't see the likes of yogscast and/or paulsoaresjr making a licence for they're daily uploads. They are making a mint off A. Other peoples work B. Content not owned by them.

It's the same for all these so called Skyrim Mod reviewers, they just pic the hotspot mods and make a video which then gets franchised by the mod maker, thus giving the channel owner youtube partnership eventually. Oh so very angering. What happened to protecting peoples intellectual property.

If you want to know how much money they actually make:

€ = [Video Clicks] * CTR * CPC / 100

The CTR (Click Through Rate) is usually 0.05 to 0.07.

CPC (Cents per click) varies between 3-6ct.

[Mr. Charles]

Holy sh*t. No wonder people can make a living from YT videos :butbut:

[VIPER[CWW]]

Just as I thought, different rules apply to those who are in partnership..........

[MacScottie]

Ok guys I'll explain from my PoV since I'm in the middle of this:

There are two different types of partnerships on youtube. One directly with youtube, and one through a third party.

I'm currently a youtube partner on my own, meaning that I have to get my OWN license agreements for any games I make videos for. BIS provides this for us, which is awesome of them, but youtube, being the schmucks they are, still won't accept it because of some sort of perceived "technicality". I've posted here and personally emailed Mr. Dwarden to get it resolved and not gotten any response. So I'm screwed from that end.

But, since my channel is doing well, I'm getting partnered with a "station" on youtube. Those include Machinima, TGN, TGS, etc, etc, etc. When you get partnered with one of them, THEY take care of all the licensing BS(and it is BS considering I HAVE a licensing agreement from BIS and they STILL won't accept it), and fortunately that means that once I get partnered with them, I cal make videos for all the games I want and not have to worry about licensing.

[Placebo]

So basically the biggest youtube channels are posting all these videos without permission and youtube are doing nothing yet for the average joe bloggs youtube are whining because they want a real signature from one of us on the document? Does it have to be a hand signed one as in we print it out and rescan it or just a digital one? Either way anyone who needs a signature Email me and I'll sign it for you: Placebo@<hidden>

[SpetS15]

This is unfair :s they rejected almost all my ArmA2 videos, I only made like 2 U$ so far LOL and I dont even know if they are going to pay me someday.. Im sad :(

Send and Email to you Mr Placebo!

[Mortireacas11]

He i filled out the form, but i cant find your email or the other email i need to send it to.

[PuFu]

He i filled out the form, but i cant find your email or the other email i need to send it to.
o'rlly?

Either way anyone who needs a signature Email me and I'll sign it for you: Placebo@<hidden>
and from first post:

5. send to following email(s) to me (yours lovely Community Manager )
David.Foltyn
and copy to our PR staff
Ota.Vrtatko
a.t. @<hidden> bistudio d.o.t. com

was that all that hard?

[MacScottie]

So basically the biggest youtube channels are posting all these videos without permission and youtube are doing nothing yet for the average joe bloggs youtube are whining because they want a real signature from one of us on the document? Does it have to be a hand signed one as in we print it out and rescan it or just a digital one? Either way anyone who needs a signature Email me and I'll sign it for you: Placebo@<hidden>

All they want is a "digital" signature on the bottom. So basically just a typed out name at the bottom stating that you're a BI representative. E-mail inbound, and thanks so much.

[Placebo]

Right, I've done a couple of those now that I received via email, I have a very nice jpeg scan of my real signature ;)

[Icewindo]

I don't know why or how but I've just checked my videos and YT enabled my vanilla ArmA2 videos that were previously disabled for monetization. Still I've send you an email Placebo and I'll sent YT the updated license then.

But ... yeah... really dunno what made them do it.

[ExVictor]

Hmm... I'm not sure if I filled the form and provide the information correctly. I mailed to Dwarden and also ask for acknowledge (in document format) in another mail but still don't get any reply :nervous:

Oh Wait!, I just found out that Youtube disable monetization feature in my country. Does it mean that I don't have to get approval from BIS? (or is it still better to get approval anyway?) Well, I don't really care about making money but I'm afraid that my ArmA videos will be claimed for copyright and be disabled -_-"

[Placebo]

Get permission anyway then you're covered :)

[Placebo]

Indeed, please refrain from spamming your YT channel, that is not the purpose of this thread.

[ExVictor]

Oh... OK... But since I still didn't get any reply although I ask for acknowledge in another mail I sent yesterday so I'm a bit worried that maybe I did something wrong -_-". Right now, I have just uploaded 2 videos of ArmA Resistance and will uploaded a bunch of them later. Now, I keep it private and going to make it public after I feel it is safe.

Sorry for my impatience.

[SneakyDuck]

E-mail sent. Hopefully this will suffice for the people at Youtube, I never thought getting monetised would be this difficult.

[Dwarden]

you need wait, we are working on global solution, it's humany impossible to solve each request separately

[ExVictor]

Great to hear that. Thank you so much :D

[SneakyDuck]

Even with the document signed by Placebo, they still refuse to monetize my videos.

Guess I'll wait some more then.

[Placebo]

What's their excuse?

[Dwarden]

Even with the document signed by Placebo, they still refuse to monetize my videos.

Guess I'll wait some more then.

now that's something from Absurdistan verse

[SpetS15]

I dont think its a person who decide if its good for monetizarion or not, it is probably some automatic program, I submited like 20 old Arma videos only 2 or 3 was acepted (randomly), the rest was rejected, I send them the signed document, but it will be never checked, and now those videos cant be monetized ever again. I have uploaded 5 DayZ videos and only one is monetized

[declan]

I have a question.. I make a significant amount of money from my DayZ videos and I was just shown this thread. Before I decide to continue making videos (that promote your game), I'd like to know what the cut is that you are seeking to take from any future content that I produce (a ballpark figure would be great). The reason I'm asking is because my primary income is not reliant on DayZ material, and I'd rather not be bothered with this attempt in what is essentially the garnishing of my wages.. instead I will just move on to another title and continue working.

[mikeon]

Even with the document signed by Placebo, they still refuse to monetize my videos.

Guess I'll wait some more then.


Wow, did they actually send you a reply?

I have about a dozen videos set to monetized, one with over 200k views and I've sent in the same license for each one. I never got a single reply back.

Apparently one was enabled again for monetization but then disabled the next day with the same request for proof.

[PirateTinman]

I have a question.. I make a significant amount of money from my DayZ videos and I was just shown this thread. Before I decide to continue making videos (that promote your game), I'd like to know what the cut is that you are seeking to take from any future content that I produce (a ballpark figure would be great). The reason I'm asking is because my primary income is not reliant on DayZ material, and I'd rather not be bothered with this attempt in what is essentially the garnishing of my wages.. instead I will just move on to another title and continue working.

From what I have read in the thread they have never mentioned anything about taking a cut out of anything.
You must provide the license with every monetized video containing content from BIS.
If you earn over a certain amount of money on the videos they want to set up a per-user license, one that is more specific for yourself, I do not know if they will take a cut in this, I guess they may or may not do so on their own leisure.

[SneakyDuck]

Wow, did they actually send you a reply?

I have about a dozen videos set to monetized, one with over 200k views and I've sent in the same license for each one. I never got a single reply back.

Apparently one was enabled again for monetization but then disabled the next day with the same request for proof.

More like an automated reply.


Thanks for submitting your video *video* for monetisation. We have disabled monetisation on this video because we were not able to verify that you have the appropriate commercial use rights for all content included.

Is part of the e-mail I got as a reply after I sent the .pdf WITH signature.


HOWEVER, ever since then, any new ARMA videos I upload get monetised instantly. Honestly, I don't get it.

[Messiah]

Dwarden,

Posting this here rather than in a PM as I felt it might be a query others in the community should be able to read, and after having a brief chat with Placebo about it. I have a question regarding addon makers rights/IP via this youtube monetisation scheme? We've seen over the years plenty of fan made videos using various addons in the community, addons that are sometimes quite 'essential' in telling the stories/plot of the videos in question, and therefore, in a roundabout way, there lies the possibility that they could profit, to some extent, off our work. Essentially the questions boiled down to:

- Are we within our rights to request that our content not be used on monetised videos on youtube, via our EULA?

I'm not looking to start any debate on should the addons in question be able to recoup 'royalties', should addon makers be able to sell their work, etc etc. I'm just questioning the concept of one branch of content makers who may only create free content, whereas another could use that same content and earn money off the back of it via youtube.

[Foxhound]

Quoted from the first post:


This doesn't cover anything from user-made content,
for that You need obtain approval from the respective IP owners.

So I say, yep you are in your rights when you do not want to see your work in monetized videos.
But of course I am not a legal BI spokesman or have any legal education.

[Messiah]

Quoted from the first post:



So I say, yep you are in your rights when you do not want to see your work in monetized videos.
But of course I am not a legal BI spokesman or have any legal education.

*Face palm*

Read that post several times, and seemed to have glossed ovet that part each and every time. Thanks foxhound.

[aRaven]

Youtube is currently asking me these questions to monetize the videos:
"In the public domain?
Primary source establishing public domain status:"

I don't fully understand what it means to be in the public domain. So I'm unsure what exactly to answer them? Is Arma 2 & OA considered to be public domain?

[SLiiDE]

Youtube is currently asking me these questions to monetize the videos:
"In the public domain?
Primary source establishing public domain status:"

I don't fully understand what it means to be in the public domain. So I'm unsure what exactly to answer them? Is Arma 2 & OA considered to be public domain?

Domain normally refers to a website. Public domain would mean a website where anyone can access it. I don't really understand why they would ask that, or what it is asking for.

[Xeno]

Domain normally refers to a website. Public domain would mean a website where anyone can access it. I don't really understand why they would ask that, or what it is asking for.
Amazing, you guys don't even know what "Public Domain" means but upload videos with content which is not your IP and monetarize them...

Xeno

[b00ce]

Domain normally refers to a website. Public domain would mean a website where anyone can access it.
Nope. Nope. Nope.

"Works in the public domain are those whose intellectual property rights have expired,[1] been forfeited,[2] or are inapplicable. Examples include the works of Shakespeare and Beethoven, most of the early silent films, the formulae of Newtonian physics, and the patents on powered flight."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain

[aRaven]

Amazing, you guys don't even know what "Public Domain" means but upload videos with content which is not your IP and monetarize them...

Xeno

Well yea, I ask because I care about other peoples IP. What is your point? There is nothing wrong with asking. What amazes me more is that you would rather reword what has just been said except turn it into something belittling rather than answering the question. Makes you wonder how much that person actually knows. Oh well.

And thanks b00ce.

[b00ce]

aRaven, I'm pretty sure he was referring to SLiiDE, seeing how he quoted him and all. :)

[SLiiDE]

Yeah, I really didn't have much of an idea so i just took a stab in the dark. Seems as though being wrong makes me some kind of idiot apparently. Thanks b00ce for correcting me nicely ;)

[MacScottie]

I just wanted to give an update and shout out to Placebo.

After I sent him the pdf and he sent it back with his real signature, youtube FINALLY accepted it and re-monetized most of my ArmA and DayZ videos.

Then a week later I was partnered with TGN and it all didn't matter anyways :p But I FINALLY won. That's what was important to me.

Thanks so much Placebo and BIS in general for taking care of this issue.

For those of you still having problems with youtube over this, I don't know what to say, and I'm sorry :/

-Drum

[Placebo]

You're welcome :)

[SLiiDE]

No-one has still really answered my question; What do i need to fill in on the PDF? Would be helpfull if someone posted a copy of theirs so i can see what i need to change.

Once i've filled it in, do i just send it to Placebo?

[thewalkthroughspros]

Whos email do i email to

[SpetS15]

They (Youtube) send me this now:


Hi,

Thanks for providing additional information about commercial use rights
for your video. Unfortunately, we were unable to accept the attachment in
the format you provided. Please try sending it again in a different format
such as a pdf or image file.

Can you elaborate more about all the background music in your video?

Thank you for your cooperation.

Sincerely,

Alice
The YouTube Team

I send them a Word File Document, already signed by Paul. I use the Word File because I dont know how to edit a PDF file. Can you please send me a signed PDF document, please?
Anyway, im still dont understand why some videos are acepted and others dont, even if I make a 3 part videos of the same mission and only 1 or 2 are ok to monetize for them :s

[Placebo]

Open in word, file, save as, choose pdf, save ;)

[SpetS15]

Oh ok! Thanks Very Much! :)
I hope this time they read it at least, %$&·" ¬¬

[galzohar]

Hmm how do I actually go about editing the PDF document without converting it into an image file?

Edit: Nevermind, some additional digging in acrobat reader let me find a way to add text to the document (under "sign")...

[Rallen]

Thank you for this!

[snowy1256]

So, I've emailed this off to the emails in the first post on two seperate emails, thinking the first might have gone to spam.

Youtube asked me for further proof so I emailed the address' (this is when I sent the entire thing again from a second email thinking I hadn't recieved a response due to spam) and still have yet to receive any response, any ideas?

[silentdevil]

i just wondered if someone could tell me if they got my e-mail, i have had an email from youtube enquiring for more proof for the use of the game?

[Placebo]

If you want to know who got your email and when you need to specify what Email address you sent to.

[snowy1256]

If you want to know who got your email and when you need to specify what Email address you sent to.

Well its the one my forum account is registered with, as not to put my email up in public, am I still able to email you for a signature Placebo?

[Placebo]

Of course :) And I meant which of us you emailed, not which email address you emailed from ;)

[Stewe231]

Can you confirm that you got my emails? They came from *myforumname*@<hidden> Youtube is giving me hell about not having the proper license, I sent them the pdf, but now they are asking for a "written document".

[Placebo]

I reply to every request usually within a couple of hours, there's none waiting so I can't have gotten it, try again: Placebo@<hidden>

[Stewe231]

I reply to every request usually within a couple of hours, there's none waiting so I can't have gotten it, try again: Placebo@<hidden>

Resent

[RedPhoenix]

I am going to send you this mail, BUT I am not going to make any money with that.

Why?

I just want to inform BI that I am going to upload vidoes of ArmA2 and I want their approval, thats all.

[Placebo]

That's fine :)

[RedPhoenix]

I'm going to send it to you & BI as well this day.

I'm going through this becasue I just read in this thread that also videos from small non-profit channels were taken down because of non-authorized use of the game.
I want to prevent that :)

[Placebo]

Even if you have no intention of monetising I'd go with a "better safe than sorry" attitude :)

[RedPhoenix]

That's how I roll :D

[DanielV]

Hi

If i've got a video with the ARMA 3 wallpaper only and self-composed music, will this be needed?

[Placebo]

Possibly not but doesn't hurt to play it safe ;)

[JerryK]

How do I edit the PDF so I can fill the needed areas? Adobe Reader doesn't let me edit the text :/

[Placebo]

Create a jpeg, edit that, send to me, I'll sign and convert to PDF for you :)

[JerryK]

Thanks, but I figured it out and sent it to the emails in the OP.

However, after trying to monetize my video and providing the quote in the PDF and a link to this thread, YouTube is still saying I need to send more information. What am I supposed to send?

[Placebo]

Do they not specify? Surely they don't just reply with "we need more information"?

[JerryK]

This is the exact message.

"We have reviewed your video and need more information. Please provide written documentation that you have all necessary commercial rights to make money from your content. Simply stating that you own the video content is not enough."

I gave them a link to this thread, to the quote in the PDF, and a link to BI's site. I'm not really sure what else they want.

[Placebo]

Did you send them a completed PDF signed by you and signed by someone from BIS? If not then that's what they need, as covered in this thread.

[MrFoley]

I've a question.


A PERSONAL, NON-EXCLUSIVE, NON-TRANSFERABLE LICENSE TO USE AND
DISPLAY GAME CONTENT (“THE CONTENT”)

AND TO CREATE DERIVATIVE WORKS BASED UPON AUDIO & VIDEO
CAPTURE/RECORDING (“THE WORK“) OF(“THE CONTENT”), (...)

Does being in possession of the license allowes to create a footage, which contains soundtrack from ARMA2, but doesn't contain actual gameplay?

[datroubler]

I asked you on 15.08.2012 for acceptance as descriped in the first post but I didn't receive any answer.
Is this waiting time usualy?

[Placebo]

"you" being? I certainly don't have any emails from you...

[noxturno]

under name on the pdf file should I put my youtube account name ? which its tartarusrealm or my account real name in it ?

---------- Post added at 21:29 ---------- Previous post was at 20:50 ----------

I hope I send the file to the right emails :/ so if you guys got more than one its cuz I wasnt sure . could you guys pm your emails ? idk why you dont put it all together xD

ps I found an old thread like from a year ago and Dwarden you said your email was that at @<hidden> but here its David.Foltyn at @<hidden> sorry thats why I am not sure I ssend it to both... sorry I didnt mean to spamm .

EDIT

I have send it to Placebo thanks in advance.

[JerryK]

I sent mine on the 22nd and I haven't received a response yet.

My email name is jken223.

[Placebo]

Sent yours to?

[JerryK]

I sent it to both emails in the OP.

[Placebo]

Should have sent it to me, I actually reply ;)

[JerryK]

Placebo could you please give me your email address so I can send it to you?

[Placebo]

Placebo@<hidden>

[SGHavoKCC]

@<hidden> I also sent mine to you just now, I sent it to the 2 emails in the OP but havent received a response yet.

[Placebo]

Signed and returned :)

[SGHavoKCC]

Signed and returned :)

Thank you! :)

[LiquidFlux]

pastebin(*)com/raw(*)php?i=VexrfYGt

Sorry for being a hassle, however YouTube now have me lost. The PDF linked in the OP I had sent your way, to both addresses, with the YT account name GodlikeAssassin. YT have given me no form of contacting them to further pursue the issue, of which I've lost as to what needs to be mentioned. Should I have received the PDF in the OP signed by you at a later date from when I had sent it to you? Is it that which I should respond to this monetization claim with? If so, how do I go about responding to them, as there's absolutely no useful information in the email, and to be frank, their Youtube Creator site doesn't look particularly legitimate.

Can post email headers via PM if best.

[XmarksTheScot]

So would we need this is we wanted to use screens from the game on custom products from zazzle.com? we are a clan and any funds generated this way go back into funding our game servers

[SpetS15]

what do you have chose when they ask for more information?
I have an Online License?

And what I have to write there?

and what link? this Topic?

[zSc0pe]

I recently sent the signed pdf included in this email to David.Foltyn Ota.Vrtatko as requested in the Bohemia Interactive forums.
I had to sign up to "EchoSign" electronic signature service to send the pdf officially thru the adobe pdf but now today I sent again to placebo email and it took me to an adobe service where I had to sign up so I am hell confused. What do I nee back from you guys exactly to give to youtube? What link do I refer them to or do I just send them the signed pdf once I get it back from you?
thanks for any help I appreciate it.

[SpetS15]

Anyway, I made so far $1,79 by now lol, and Im not sure if Im going to see that money anyday, because you also have to reach $100 minimum to get paid, and even worse, Im not sure if here, in my country, they are going to pay me, or steal all with taxes and other shit they invented recently to take your money :s

[mikeon]

So basically the biggest youtube channels are posting all these videos without permission and youtube are doing nothing yet for the average joe bloggs youtube are whining because they want a real signature from one of us on the document? Does it have to be a hand signed one as in we print it out and rescan it or just a digital one? Either way anyone who needs a signature Email me and I'll sign it for you: Placebo@<hidden>

And email sent. They finally replied to one request I sent 4 months ago and rejected my claim.

Now Placebo is my only hope.

[Koniving]

Note:
you make audio and/or video using our games content or our media content and then want get or get profit off it ?
you need to have or obtain license approval
any text related work (e.g. story set in ARMA's universum needs extra approval/changed license etc.)
You don't need re-edit and reupload already uploaded videos, you will lose Your YT view counts etc.
[/B][/SIZE][/I]

Additional approval and change license for text work. Alright, so using this DayZ video of mine as an example (Can't post a link) youtube . com /watch?v=r_78zuEXDy8 (Video title: Kon (DayZ) | Quest for Helicopters? Quest for survival! episode 4), what license would I need or approval to gain? The text work is intended to help develop the story and interest and to set it apart from other videos (as well as to give credit for music used). I'm also aware that I would need to get separate approval for the soundtrack (or get smart and use royalty free music... but finding good ones for horror is difficult at best).

[Rbit_Lsi]

@<hidden> Sent you an email as well as CC's to the two in the OP. :)

[Oksman]

I'm sorry but I have issues with editing the PDF. I believe Acrobat Reader needs to be paid version to allow editing. I'm not sure how I will send this email as a PDF, anyone mind helping me out with this issue?

OksmanTV

[Mr Burns]

How would one persue to get permission for commercial use of ingame assets (solely 2D, not models)?

I ask because we´ve got an idea for a kind of a joint-venture where Bohemia only gives assets and name, and i don´t know if this is even remotely possible from BI´s point of view.

[Rbit_Lsi]

I'm sorry but I have issues with editing the PDF. I believe Acrobat Reader needs to be paid version to allow editing. I'm not sure how I will send this email as a PDF, anyone mind helping me out with this issue?

OksmanTV

You can print it out, fill it out by hand, scan it to a .jpg/.png or something similar or to a .pdf (as a picture, OCR-ing it is pointless at this point) and send it with the email.
If you don't have a scanner you can get someone else to do it for you, like one of those copy/printing services. They usually offer such services and can give you the scanned document on a USB flash drive/memory card/etc. or via email.

[JuggernautOfWar]

I can't seem to edit the .pdf file to fill in the blank spaces. I downloaded it and I need to send it to you guys, but I can't fill out the form! Can I screenshot the .pdf and edit the text via MSpaint? Thank you for help. I do not have a scanner and I live in the country so there are no printing shops nearby.

EDIT: I uploaded the document to Google Drive and sent you guys the link to the filled out form. I think that should work just fine.

[Foxhound]

@<hidden> pressytcn
This thread is not to be used to discuss what people monetize. This thread is purely meant to be informative and helpfull to those wanting to accuire an official document to be able to monetize thier videos.
Anything other belongs in another thread.
Since this has been said in the past numerous times, infraction +1, your post has been removed.

[Macey]

I have been trying for hours to get around the pay-for Adobe issues when signing forms. I finally found this site: (Oh.. ok.. this forum wont let me post a link. Just Google search for 'Fill Any PDF Form' - which is the name of the site.

Basically, it lets you overwrite and sign a PDF document which is then available for download immediately. No sign up, or download required.. amazing really. I hope this helps.
Finger to the man!


Ps. Bloody hell! This forum has strict protocol! I nearly gave up trying to get this post up here for you.

[Oksman]

Macey thanks, I'm going to confirm if that works, in the meantime I believe I sent a e-mail to both adresses, I'm not sure if it actually reached them.

Is there a way of knowing wether or not you got denied?

[Chilaxe]

Gotta email them asking to confirm and wait.

[Oksman]

Ah indeed, I was not sure if the e-mail had gone through, sent another e-mail with a new "solid" pdf! :)

[alromani]

I sent an email more than 10 days ago and no one replied me
I sent to the following emails
david.foltyn@<hidden>
Ota.Vrtatko@<hidden>
placebo@<hidden>

Would you mind lettting me know if am ever get an answer because YouTube is asking me for proof

[seddrik]

Same as above poster. Sent in email, haven't heard back. Youtube continues to ask for confirmation of every detail, even though I document everything/credit it. Would be great to have a reply and get the liscence sent.

Greatly appreciated.

Seddrik Frost on YouTube

[Sakowski]

Just a question about the name: real ((given names)) or youtube account name?

as well where do we have to place the
Write email, include Your website, YT/Vimeo etc. channels (if You have more than 10k users and 100k/work views then mention it in bold)? and lastly the
hereby signed by "applicant" is that us signing it or is it the thing we gotta send to Placebo?

I want to make sure I do not screw this up badly xD

[seddrik]

Yeah, I received a reply and was told to sign the PDF.

So... do I just type my name in and convert to a PDF? Or do I need to physically sign a copy of the PDF and fax it/email a pdf copy?

[Oksman]

It's been three months since I last sent my application. No answer yet, did they drop this?

[TomDackery]

Unless you specifically request a response, don't expect a reply, is what I understood.

[Oksman]

Don't I need permission to upload videos and put ads on them? How will I know if I'm permitted.

Also I need a written confirmation that I can do it, how else will I prove it to google?

[Dwarden]

all You need do is download the file, file the stuff and sign and send to the emails ... it's one way trip, no confirmation from us needed ... if Google or else claims they need signature then it's just plain excuse ...

we will in future add separate web page with basically the same content as the first thread anyway ...

[Oksman]

Alright, thanks for the response.

[alromani]

Thank you guys
Keep up the amazing work

[galzohar]

This is still not really working for me. Youtube keeps disabling monetization on my many of my Arma videos. Sometimes claiming I don't have the rights (which I have to constnatly dispute, and not always getting it approved, and even sometimes not even having the option to dispute!), and sometimes claiming it's "not friendly to the advertiser".

Is there any way to deal with it better? Right now, monetizing Arma videos on youtube is just a nightmare for me, to the point where I'm about to give up unless someone has a bright idea of what I can do to deal with this better.

[SpetS15]

same for me, they are disabling almost all my monetization request, and asking for license all the time, wtf? I already send it like 100 times. You know, I dont have to much views and looks like im getting robbed by yt, coz I dont even make 1$ per month LOL. is not like CHKilroy or Dyslecyx channels they have thousand of views per video, im so jelly :s and I was subscribed to them way before this monetization sh*t
whatever, Im going to download the new PDF I have the old one, although they are the same, but, I dont know...

[galzohar]

I made 4 videos total for Diablo 3, each had thousands of views and I'm not even well-known in the community. Those few Diablo videos made me the grand majority of my income, even though I have many more Arma videos than Diablo 3 videos. In this case it's just a matter of popularity.

It would still be nice if there was an effective way for us to at least get the little we should be able to get from monetizing our Arma 2 videos.

[Placebo]

Youtube are morons, you can hardly expect common sense, they will constantly block legitimate videos from being monetized yet they're more than happy to have cracking, warez, cheat, trainer, videos about our games.

[Jsmuk]

This might have been mentioned before but I didn't find anything in the search, I (at the moment) am not monetizing any ArmA videos on my channel however WMG have decided to place ads on one of my ArmA videos due to a ContentID detected song.
Is this an issue?

[Cronik]

Ok can someone show me a filled out example of the PDF? I just don't know what exactly to put in all the "fill in the blank" spots. Additionally, how can I edit the PDF once I download it to fill the spots in? Are there any free PDF editing programs?


This^

It really isn't all that clear.

Nothing has been specific in this thread. Maybe I missed something. The directions are incredibly vague.

Do I have to print it out, sign it, then scan it back in to email it? Or do I just download it and sign it with Adobe reader?


Can somebody give me an example?

[Placebo]

Something like this http://www.solidfiles.com/d/63697618b9/ there's only like 3 things you need to fill in yourself, shouldn't be too complicated :)

For PDF editing I personally use http://www.iceni.com/ I got the Pro version free by writing a review of it, they still offer that apparently: http://www.iceni.com/infixLinkBack.htm

[DayZplanet]

"Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently: ..."

Neither of thoses addresses work for me, what do I do then? (I'm using gmail)

[Placebo]

We were doing some maintenance on various things over the weekend including the mail servers, try again :)

[DayZplanet]

We were doing some maintenance on various things over the weekend including the mail servers, try again :)

Okej!

"You don't need to wait for us to reply, the must key is fill the form and send it to us ...
so we are aware of Your existance"

Så fort mailet är iväg skickat kan jag sätta på monetizie på mina klipp? (lite otydligt då det är många som snackar om hur lång tid det tog för dem att få respons tillbaka).

[Placebo]

You should send it to me anyway as I actually sign them :) Placebo@<hidden>

You can monetise before you get the paperwork, they don't always ask for proof.

[pressytcn]

hi i have a little trouble figuring out this form i just got my channel open for Monetization i filled in the date and my name but the name i filled in is not my youtube account name should i add that aswell because you can't find my channel by my real name due to privacy settings

[Placebo]

If you looked at the example I posted 5 replies up you would see in my example I wrote "'BOHEMIA INTERACTIVE' GRANTS TO ' Paul Statham (Youtube ChannelGrimbarian33) ' (“THE APPLICANT“"

[Cronik]

Something like this http://www.solidfiles.com/d/63697618b9/ there's only like 3 things you need to fill in yourself, shouldn't be too complicated :)

For PDF editing I personally use http://www.iceni.com/ I got the Pro version free by writing a review of it, they still offer that apparently: http://www.iceni.com/infixLinkBack.htm

Thanks

Never filled out a form like this before.

[SpetS15]

Can I just edit that part "The Aplicant" and add my name and youtube channel, or I have to send you a new petition to sign? because the one I have I forgot to edit that part, añthough I dont think that is the reason they reject most of my videos for monetization anyway ¬¬

[Placebo]

I'm sure it's fine to just add your name into another one.

[Fachii]

Is there and age limit? If so what is that limit? Sorry if this has been answered already but I couldn't find anyone asking the same question.

[Placebo]

Well if you're over 120 and still making youtube videos then you will get Arma3 free if you send me your birth certificate.

[marioKarrion]

Well if you're over 120 and still making youtube videos then you will get Arma3 free if you send me your birth certificate.


The original PDF doesn't seem to include Arma 3, can I use the same for Arma 3 or where can I get the updated PDF including Arma 3?

Thanks

[Placebo]

If you see this thread: http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?146877-Arma-3-NDA&p=2304291&highlight=videos#post2304291 it shows there will be more to follow exactly on the issues of A3 content.

[Dwarden]

added Arma 3 and Memento Mori to the list , please realize there will be in future page to resolve some of the issues, also stop asking for us sending You documents, this is one way announce system (you to us) , when deciding about monetizing some channels YouTube ignored signed documents from us anyway ...

[TheNoobWar]

When will the pdf be updated for Arma 3 alpha monetization?

[Yorkie065]

Just sent my application. Hopefully it was the right addresses, so please let me know if it gets through and gets approved :)

Cheers,
Yorkie065

[Sir_MicksAlot]

I am curious as well as to when ARMA 3 will be added to the PDF.

[NakedViking]

This license doesn't cover Arma 3, as people already have asked, when will it be included?

[Placebo]

Please read Dwarden's last reply, if you have questions he's the one to ask :)

[Dwarden]

new PDF with actual titles , my previous posts still do apply ... we don't send anything back to You, it don't work , blame Youtube not us ...

[jimmythesquid12]

to anyone reading this end of the thread, go look at the start. new pdf ! see how youtube likes it

[emmodz]

I emailed all of them yesterday hopefully they can reply soon so Youtube can stop bothering me. :D

[emmodz]

I emailed all of them yesterday hopefully they can reply soon so Youtube can stop bothering me. :D

Still no reply, hopefully they are still doing this.

:(

[Placebo]

Read Dwarden's reply three posts up.

[Connorwarman]

Easy enough, just sent mine in.

[ArmaIInoobATM]

How do you edit the PDF file...?

[Placebo]

Just use a free PDF editor, there's loads out there, or just us MS Word and do save as PDF.

[Sgt-Chippuh]

I'm a little confused, who do we send the PDF to?
And do we also attach it to the email?

[Dwarden]

you just send the document to us, the emails are in point 5. of first post, we do not sent anything back

[PzVI]

...we do not sent anything back

YouTube requires a signed pdf.
What to do?

[Flam3_1990]

Just sent in my agreement, hopefully all is well!

[Mines_Skyline]

I just sent in my application. This is the best thing ever. I hope I can upload stuff to YouTube without them harassing me now :D Thank You BI Studios.