Raven Shield question

[bussinrounds]

I got this guy in another forum telling me that Raven Shield is a product of Ubisoft and not Red Storm Entertainment.

The wiki lists both as developers - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Clancy%27s_Rainbow_Six_3:_Raven_Shield

I always tell ppl that once UBI started making the games, instead of Red Storm Entertainment, the series went down the tubes.

So what's the truth about Raven Shield and the whole series, in terms of the developers ? Was Raven Shield co-developed ? I find it hard to believe that UBIsuck had anything to do with this excellent game.

[Smurf]

In August 2000 Ubisoft purchased the studio
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Storm_Entertainment


Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six 3: Raven Shield is a computer game developed and published by Ubisoft and released on March 18, 2003.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Clancy%27s_Rainbow_Six_3:_Raven_Shield

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[Tonci87]

Basic rule: Ubi is making it->dumbed down piece of crap
Ubi buys a game studio with a innovative game series->turns it into dumbed down piece of crap

[Foxhound]

Ubi buys a game studio with a innovative game series->turns it into dumbed down piece of crap

I will never get over how they ruined my lovely GR :(

[Smurf]

I almost cried when they bought Massive, creators os Ground Control and WiC, knowing those facts.

[])rStrangelove]

Guess they didnt have the time to ruin RavenShield in 3 years. It was the best R6 imo.

But they surely did all they could afterwards.

[Jeza]

I thought along with others that raven shield was a brilliant r6, really not liking the others.

[Hans Ludwig]

I don't even know how Ubisoft is surviving in this bad economy. I mean, who honestly buys their games?

[Big Dawg KS]

I don't even know how Ubisoft is surviving in this bad economy. I mean, who honestly buys their games?

Consolers?

[])rStrangelove]

Only 10% of all their income comes from PC, the rest is console titles and casual gaming stuff.
Well, IMHO they still got the AC series on a good cause so far and SC Conviction wasnt bad either (totally different from the old ones though).


Personally i dont hold my breath for the next GRAW or R6 though. Seems that all titles are slowly drawn into the CoD run&gun style genre, with dumbed down features. From that view even the arcadish R6 Vegas2 becomes a simulation lol. :D

[solidsnake2384]

They shouldnt of even called it Conviction. More like Jason Bourne starring Sam Fisher.

[mrcash2009]

I always tell ppl that once UBI started making the games, instead of Red Storm Entertainment, the series went down the tubes.About sums it up, It was Ghost Recon 1 (original) that had the advertisement for RVS on the back of the manual book, this was the only reason I bought it and never really checked any reviews. Wasn't disappointed one bit ... then yes, it turned to crud.

The only thing I ever really wanted was RVS with maybe some updated eye candy, a few planning map improvements and features and the AI stacking ability/skill of SWAT4 .. the release of full SDK and we would have been happy for years.

EDIT ... haven't been looking for a long time but I see the RVS 2 mod does some improvements http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrmUhjHe-xg which is available contrary to the UBI stopping it reports. Well, I just gave in and ordered RVS Gold edition nice and cheap from Amazon, I miss some proper CQB ... my original copy took a walk when moving :(

[TimRiceSE]

EDIT ... haven't been looking for a long time but I see the RVS 2 mod does some improvements http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrmUhjHe-xg which is available contrary to the UBI stopping it reports.

Ubi never actually sent a cease and desist, it was just some troll who called one of the guys on the mod team pretending to be a lawyer from Ubi or something...

[Kernriver]

I didn't even know RVS 2.0 existed.

Downloading. :yay:

EDIT: Does it work with Athena sword and Iron wrath?

[])rStrangelove]

Hmmm ... wouldn't mind a Ravenshield MP session, even if just for trying out that RVS2.0 :)

[bussinrounds]

I thought UBI put an end to that RS 2.0 mod also. Anyone got a link for the download ?

[mrcash2009]

Ubi never actually sent a cease and desist, it was just some troll who called one of the guys on the mod team pretending to be a lawyer from Ubi or something... Yes that's what I meant about contrary to reports, how silly would that have been if it were true :butbut::)


EDIT: Does it work with Athena sword and Iron wrath? I downloaded the addon about 700mb or so and the read me specifically talks about gold edition and the file replacement list includes both the addons, so that's a yes.

Well, heres the readme .. its large so in spoiler:

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RavenShield 2.0

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by Ketsucorp Enterprises
original game by Red Storm Entertainment, Ubisoft

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1. Introduction
2. Installation
3. The 2.0 team
4. Upcoming features
5. Installation details

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-1- Introduction

Ravenshield 2.0 is the definitive community-designed patch for upgrading and also
improving Ravenshield's core gameplay and graphics. Over years of dedication and
extensively hard work, we are happy to present the following amazing new features:

-Improved RAINBOW Skins.
-Improved Hostile Skins.
-Improved Hostage Skins.
-Improved First Person Weaponry Skins.
-Improved Third Person Weaponry Skins.
-Improved HOSTILE Artificial Intelligence.
-Improved RAINBOW Artificial Intelligence.
-Improved Special Effects during Gameplay.
-Improved damage system on shotgun munition.
-Improved Map Templates, with Realistic AI.
-Improved Magazine Count, for added Realism.
-Unique Ironsights for individual weaponry.
-Unique Scope sights for individual weaponry.
-Unique Goggle HUD, with active damage display.
-Removed the ability to sight in during NVG use.
-Removed 90% of Frag Grenade Use by Terrorist AI.
-Removed Crosshair's on all weapons, gadgets, etc.
-Redesigned Menu, with a cleaner design for Raven Shield.
-Redesigned Menu, with a cleaner design for both add-ons.
-New Map Loading textures, with a matching cleaner design.
-Added the ability to use all add-on weapons at all times.
-Much, Much more.

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-2- Installation

STEP 01
LOCATE the folder your current RavenShield installation is in, usually within the
C:\Program Files\Red Storm Entertainment\ or C:\Steam\steamapps\common and find a
folder either named "RavenShield" for retail disc users, or "Rainbow Six 3 Gold".

STEP 02
COPY the folder "RavenShield" or "Rainbow Six 3 Gold" to a new location, preferably
in a new folder, this will become your backup folder, name it something appropriate.
This folder is important to keep, in case of an emergency or in the more unlikely of
events, dislikes Raven Shield 2.0 and wishes to copy the files back, after uninstall.

STEP 03
Run the installer provided, and ensure you specify the folder that your Raven Shield
is in, do NOT select RavenShield or Rainbow Six 3 Gold, merely specify the folder it
is installed in, in the case of regular disc it will be Red Storm Entertainment, the
steam version is within Steam\steamapps\common, select common. Usually the installer
will already have this specified, and you may automatically click next to run this.

STEP 04
CONGRATULATIONS! You should now have Raven Shield 2.0 installed into your file, if at
any point the installation did not complete, you may also elect to install this to an
alternative location and just simply copy the contents of these files over to RVS 1.6!
=============================ALTERNATIVE DUAL INSTALLATION=============================
STEP 01
LOCATE the folder your current RavenShield installation is in, usually within the
C:\Program Files\Red Storm Entertainment\ or C:\Steam\steamapps\common and find a
folder either named "RavenShield" for retail disc users, or "Rainbow Six 3 Gold".

STEP 02
COPY the folder "RavenShield" or "Rainbow Six 3 Gold" to a new location, preferably
in a new folder, this will become your second folder, name it something appropriate.
This folder is important to keep if you wish to have both a RavenShield 1.6 *AND* an
installation of RavenShield 2.0! Just ensure you name either one appropriately also.

STEP 03
Run the installer provided, and ensure you specify the folder you want a RavenShield
2.0 installation to be in, likely to be the new folder you created in STEP 02. Fully
installed onto the containing folder of the newly created RavenShield 2.0 folder will
ensure you have a clean version of RavenShield 1.6, and a clean version of 2.0 as well.
You may also create shortcuts from either one, and appropriately name these if needed!

STEP 04
CONGRATULATIONS! You should now have Raven Shield 2.0 installed into your file, if at
any point the installation did not complete, you may also elect to install this to an
alternative location and just simply copy the contents of these files over to folders!

NOTE: The installers are set up to install automatically into their "usual" location,
however if you have chosen a custom location, please ensure you install it correctly,
the installer *must* point to a location CONTAINING RavenShield, but do not install it
into RavenShield itself, as this will overwrite any of the previous 1.6 installations.

For assistance or to report problems, contact Masaketsu:

EMAIL: MASAKETSU@<hidden>
FORUM: MASAKETSU, RVSGAMING.COM ACCOUNT

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-3- The 2.0 team

The dev team:

[Masaketsu] Production Design & Management.
[Qa_Doom] Production Design & Management.
[Twilight] Programming, Modelling & Design.
[Kraken] Programming, Logistics & Design.

Big thanks to the following for all their amazing help and advice:

Vadim [Vadim]
Andrew Eaton [TF9 Johnson]
Alex Hobbs [TF9 Sanford]
Rupert Haynes [TF9 Chambers]
Michael Rouselle [TF9 Roberts]
Kyle McConnell [TF9 Ramirez]
Evan Braswell [TF9 Campbell]
Keith Singleton [TF9 Daniels]
Jamie Gordon [TF9 Gordon]
Bill Beck [TF9 Beckett]
Josh Schumaker [TF9 Richards]
Daniel Graham [TF9 Shephard]
Joy Synak [TF9 Krauser]
Tom Patterson [TF9 Kagesan]

Countless other Task Force 9 members were involved, but sadly too many to name now.

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-4- Upcoming features

Just because we've released the first official build of 2.0 doesn't mean the dev team is
done! Look forward to our upcoming patches in the new year which hopefully will include:

-Rainbow Six 3: Raven Shield 2.0 HD Maps for Raven Shield.
-Rainbow Six 3: Raven Shield 2.0 HD Maps for Athena's Sword.
-Rainbow Six 3: Raven Shield 2.0 HD Maps for Iron Wrath.
-Rainbow Six 3: Raven Shield 2.0 additional Arm Patch Packs.
-Rainbow Six 3: Raven Shield 2.0 additional Character Packs.
-Rainbow Six 3: Raven Shield 2.0 updated Gas Mask model, SF10.
and much more!

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-5- Installation details

NEW FILES
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-<installation folder>/mods/IronWrath/System/M_AImod_IW.u
-<installation folder>/system/M_AImod.u
-<installation folder>/system/ASDescription.u
-<installation folder>/system/ASGame.u
-<installation folder>/system/ASMenu.u
-<installation folder>/system/ASWeapons.u
-<installation folder>/system/ASWeapons.int
-<installation folder>/system/AthenaSword.ini
-<installation folder>/system/MP2Description.u
-<installation folder>/system/MP2Game.u
-<installation folder>/system/MP2Menu.u
-<installation folder>/system/MP2Weapons.u
-<installation folder>/system/MP21stWeapons.u
-<installation folder>/system/MP23rdWeapons.u
-<installation folder>/system/MP2Game.dll
-<installation folder>/system/IronWrath.ini
-<installation folder>/system/IronWrathAmmo.int
-<installation folder>/system/IronWrathWeapons.int
-<installation folder>/system/IronWrathMissionObjectives.int
-<installation folder>/system/IronWrathMnu.int
-<installation folder>/system/IronWrathGameInfo.int
-<installation folder>/system/IronWrathGameMode.int
-<installation folder>/system/IronWrathMission.int
-<installation folder>/system/IronWrathClassDefines.ini
-<installation folder>/system/IronWrathCredits.ini
-<installation folder>/textures/RVSComplete.utx
-<installation folder>/textures/Night_Vision.utx
-<installation folder>/textures/GHUD_T.utx
-<installation folder>/textures/R6_MP1_TextureMenuEquipment.utx
-<installation folder>/textures/R61stItalianWeapon_T.utx
-<installation folder>/textures/R63rdItalianWeapons_T.utx
-<installation folder>/textures/R6MenuBG_MP1.utx
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-<installation folder>/textures/MP2ActionIcons.utx
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-<installation folder>/animations/MP21stShotgun_UKX.ukx
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-<installation folder>/sounds/MP1_Assault_OTs_14_Silenced.uax
-<installation folder>/sounds/MP1_Assault_G3KA4.uax
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-<installation folder>/sounds/MP1_Mach_M240G.uax
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-<installation folder>/sounds/MP1_Pistol_93R.uax
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-<installation folder>/sounds/MP1_Shotgun_M4Super90_Reloads.uax
-<installation folder>/sounds/MP1_Sniper_SL8_2.uax
-<installation folder>/sounds/MP1_Sniper_SL8_2_Reloads.uax
-<installation folder>/sounds/MP1_Sniper_SL8_2_Silenced.uax
-<installation folder>/sounds/MP1_Sub_SpectreM4.uax
-<installation folder>/sounds/MP1_Sub_SpectreM4_Reloads.uax
-<installation folder>/sounds/MP1_Sub_SpectreM4_Silenced.uax
-<installation folder>/sounds/Assault_Type89F.uax
-<installation folder>/sounds/Assault_Type89F_Reloads.uax
-<installation folder>/sounds/Assault_Type89F_Silenced.uax
-<installation folder>/sounds/Mach_Ultimax.uax
-<installation folder>/sounds/Mach_Ultimax_Reloads.uax
-<installation folder>/sounds/Pistol_Model7.uax
-<installation folder>/sounds/Pistol_Model7_Reloads.uax
-<installation folder>/sounds/Pistol_Model7_Silenced.uax
-<installation folder>/sounds/Shotgun_Jackhammer.uax
-<installation folder>/sounds/Shotgun_Jackhammer_Reloads.uax
-<installation folder>/sounds/Sniper_SR25.uax
-<installation folder>/sounds/Sniper_SR25_Reloads.uax
-<installation folder>/sounds/Sniper_SR25_Silenced.uax
-<installation folder>/sounds/Sub_MP7PDW.uax
-<installation folder>/sounds/Sub_MP7PDW_Reloads.uax
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-<installation folder>/sounds/Assault_Type89F.SB0
-<installation folder>/sounds/Assault_Type89F_Reloads.SB0
-<installation folder>/sounds/Assault_Type89F_Silenced.SB0
-<installation folder>/sounds/Mach_Ultimax.SB0
-<installation folder>/sounds/Mach_Ultimax_Reloads.SB0
-<installation folder>/sounds/Pistol_Model7.SB0
-<installation folder>/sounds/Pistol_Model7_Reloads.SB0
-<installation folder>/sounds/Pistol_Model7_Silenced.SB0
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-<installation folder>/sounds/Shotgun_Jackhammer_Reloads.SB0
-<installation folder>/sounds/Sniper_SR25.SB0
-<installation folder>/sounds/Sniper_SR25_Reloads.SB0
-<installation folder>/sounds/Sniper_SR25_Silenced.SB0
-<installation folder>/sounds/Sub_MP7PDW.SB0
-<installation folder>/sounds/Sub_MP7PDW_Reloads.SB0
-<installation folder>/sounds/Sub_MP7PDW_Silenced.SB0
-<installation folder>/sounds/SFX_MdeGasAlrt.uax
-<installation folder>/sounds/SFX_MdeGazAlrt.SB0
-<installation folder>/sounds/Voices_1rstMP2PersonRainbow.uax
-<installation folder>/sounds/Voices_1rstMP2PersonRainbow.SB0
-<installation folder>/sounds/Voices_Control_MP2GameModes.uax
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-<installation folder>/sounds/Voices_MenuMissMP2_1.uax
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-<installation folder>/sounds/Voices_MenuMissMP2_3.uax
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-<installation folder>/sounds/high/MP1_Assault_OTs_14_Silenced.SB0
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-<installation folder>/sounds/high/MP1_Assault_G3KA4_Reloads.SB0
-<installation folder>/sounds/high/MP1_Assault_G3KA4_Silenced.SB0
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-<installation folder>/sounds/high/MP1_Sniper_SL8_2_Reloads.SB0
-<installation folder>/sounds/high/MP1_Sniper_SL8_2_Silenced.SB0
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-<installation folder>/sounds/high/MP1_Sub_SpectreM4_Reloads.SB0
-<installation folder>/sounds/high/MP1_Sub_SpectreM4_Silenced.SB0
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-<installation folder>/sounds/low/MP1_Assault_G3KA4.SB0
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-<installation folder>/sounds/low/MP1_Pistol_93R.SB0
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-<installation folder>/sounds/low/MP1_Sub_SpectreM4_Reloads.SB0
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CHANGED FILES
-<installation folder>/backgrounds/Main_Menu_01.TGA
-<installation folder>/backgrounds/Main_Menu_02.TGA
-<installation folder>/backgrounds/Main_Menu_03.TGA
-<installation folder>/backgrounds/Main_Menu_04.TGA
-<installation folder>/backgrounds/Main_Menu_05.TGA
-<installation folder>/backgrounds/Main_Menu_06.TGA
-<installation folder>/backgrounds/CampNew/CampNew_BG.TGA
-<installation folder>/backgrounds/CampResume/CampResume_BG.TGA
-<installation folder>/backgrounds/CreateGame/CreateGame_BG.TGA
-<installation folder>/backgrounds/Credits/Credits_BG.TGA
-<installation folder>/backgrounds/ModSelector/ModSelector_BG.TGA
-<installation folder>/backgrounds/Multiplayer/Multiplayer_BG.TGA
-<installation folder>/backgrounds/Options_BG.TGA
-<installation folder>/backgrounds/OtherMission_BG.TGA
-<installation folder>/backgrounds/PracticeMission_BG.TGA
-<installation folder>/backgrounds/training/training.TGA
-<installation folder>/mods/RavenShield.mod
-<installation folder>/animations/R6Terrorist_UKX.ukx
-<installation folder>/karmadata/MediumMesh.PSK
-<installation folder>/karmadata/r6skel.kaw
-<installation folder>/karmadata/R6Terrorist.psk
-<installation folder>/karmadata/ragdoll.ka
-<installation folder>/maps/Airport.ini
-<installation folder>/maps/Airport_Night.ini
-<installation folder>/maps/Alpines.ini
-<installation folder>/maps/Bank.ini
-<installation folder>/maps/Garage.ini
-<installation folder>/maps/Import_Export.ini
-<installation folder>/maps/Island.ini
-<installation folder>/maps/Island_Dawn.ini
-<installation folder>/maps/MeatPacking.ini
-<installation folder>/maps/MeatPacking_Day.ini
-<installation folder>/maps/Mountain_High.ini
-<installation folder>/maps/Oil_Refinery.ini
-<installation folder>/maps/Parade.ini
-<installation folder>/maps/Peaks.ini
-<installation folder>/maps/Penthouse.ini
-<installation folder>/maps/Presidio.ini
-<installation folder>/maps/Prison.ini
-<installation folder>/maps/RavenShieldCampaign.ini
-<installation folder>/maps/Shipyard.ini
-<installation folder>/maps/Streets.ini
-<installation folder>/maps/Training.ini
-<installation folder>/maps/Training_Basics.ini
-<installation folder>/maps/Training_Explosives.ini
-<installation folder>/maps/Training_Hostage1.ini
-<installation folder>/maps/Training_Hostage2.ini
-<installation folder>/maps/Training_Hostage3.ini
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-<installation folder>/mods/AthenaSword/Main_Menu_06.TGA
-<installation folder>/mods/AthenaSword/CampNew/CampNew_BG.TGA
-<installation folder>/mods/AthenaSword/CampResume/CampResume_BG.TGA
-<installation folder>/mods/AthenaSword/CreateGame/CreateGame_BG.TGA
-<installation folder>/mods/AthenaSword/Credits/Credits_BG.TGA
-<installation folder>/mods/AthenaSword/ModSelector/ModSelector_BG.TGA
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-<installation folder>/mods/AthenaSword/Options_BG.TGA
-<installation folder>/mods/AthenaSword/OtherMission_BG.TGA
-<installation folder>/mods/AthenaSword/PracticeMission_BG.TGA
-<installation folder>/mods/AthenaSword/training/training.TGA
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-<installation folder>/mods/AthenaSword/textures/R61stItalianWeapons_T.utx
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-<installation folder>/mods/IronWrath/backgrounds/Main_Menu_03.TGA
-<installation folder>/mods/IronWrath/backgrounds/Main_Menu_04.TGA
-<installation folder>/mods/IronWrath/backgrounds/Main_Menu_05.TGA
-<installation folder>/mods/IronWrath/backgrounds/Main_Menu_06.TGA
-<installation folder>/mods/IronWrath/backgrounds/CampNew/CampNew_BG.TGA
-<installation folder>/mods/IronWrath/backgrounds/CampResume/CampResume_BG.TGA
-<installation folder>/mods/IronWrath/backgrounds/CreateGame/CreateGame_BG.TGA
-<installation folder>/mods/IronWrath/backgrounds/Credits/Credits_BG.TGA
-<installation folder>/mods/IronWrath/backgrounds/ModSelector/ModSelector_BG.TGA
-<installation folder>/mods/IronWrath/backgrounds/Multiplayer/Multiplayer_BG.TGA
-<installation folder>/mods/IronWrath/backgrounds/Options_BG.TGA
-<installation folder>/mods/IronWrath/backgrounds/OtherMission_BG.TGA
-<installation folder>/mods/IronWrath/backgrounds/racticeMission_BG.TGA
-<installation folder>/mods/IronWrath/backgrounds/training/training.TGA
-<installation folder>/mods/IronWrath/textures/MP2MenuBG.utx
-<installation folder>/mods/IronWrath/textures/MP21stWeapons_T.utx

The files listed above are for reference purposes only, and give insight into the very
detailed aspects of the modification. Should you have an issue with an installation, a
quick check of this list to see if a file is missing should be made, this will help out.

Either way it adds allot more to the original, kind of what I wanted .. Gold edition for £4.99 incl delivery not bad, has been a while, back to planning again :)

BTW download links are found in this thread:

http://www.rvsgaming.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=18478#18478

[Smurf]

Thank you. Downloading RVS nao!

[mrcash2009]

NP :)

When I get the gold edition, first thing im doing is adding that mod, and play terrorist hunt on the first Oil Refinery map (loved that map to death). Get some kill box maps in too, should be fun playing all this again, always rated the audio (never shut up about it when I get a chance). Then see if anyone is in MP anymore.

Funny if it wasn't for this thread I dont think I would have looked to find any of it, a few hours later and I purchased it again :eek: :p

[Big Dawg KS]

I only watched one youtube video, but all it seems to do is add (2D) ironsights? Not sure it's worth reinstalling RVS...

[Smurf]

From 3 post above:


-Improved RAINBOW Skins.
-Improved Hostile Skins.
-Improved Hostage Skins.
-Improved First Person Weaponry Skins.
-Improved Third Person Weaponry Skins.
-Improved HOSTILE Artificial Intelligence.
-Improved RAINBOW Artificial Intelligence.
-Improved Special Effects during Gameplay.
-Improved damage system on shotgun munition.
-Improved Map Templates, with Realistic AI.
-Improved Magazine Count, for added Realism.
-Unique Ironsights for individual weaponry.
-Unique Scope sights for individual weaponry.
-Unique Goggle HUD, with active damage display.
-Removed the ability to sight in during NVG use.
-Removed 90% of Frag Grenade Use by Terrorist AI.
-Removed Crosshair's on all weapons, gadgets, etc.
-Redesigned Menu, with a cleaner design for Raven Shield.
-Redesigned Menu, with a cleaner design for both add-ons.
-New Map Loading textures, with a matching cleaner design.
-Added the ability to use all add-on weapons at all times.
-Much, Much more.

Its already worth it for me. Wanted to play RVS anyway.

[Tonci87]

Damn i think i need to dig this up again after my vacation

[JonPL]

Big Dawg - 2.0 is mainly a gfx improvement. It also gives You better friendly AI, more responsive enemy and Glock 19 [weeeee] and of course the mentioned 2d ironsights. It's great, tho it's still not a new game.

[Baff1]

I got this guy in another forum telling me that Raven Shield is a product of Ubisoft and not Red Storm Entertainment.

The wiki lists both as developers - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Clancy%27s_Rainbow_Six_3:_Raven_Shield

I always tell ppl that once UBI started making the games, instead of Red Storm Entertainment, the series went down the tubes.

So what's the truth about RavenShield and the whole series, in terms of the developers ? Was Raven Shield co-developed ? I find it hard to believe that UBIsuck had anything to do with this excellent game.
Red Storm Entertainment sold their company to Ubisoft.
Ravenshield is the first game that was made after this.

Some members of the old staff at Red Storm moved into Ubisofts games factory, but the core programmers retired. Hence the game changed to the Unreal engine, not their own.
The members that stayed with RedStorm after it became part of Ubisoft were nto however the brains of the outfit, they had been game testers etc at Redstorm during the development of R6 and Ghost Recon, not programmers.


The game series in my opinion also took a massive dive at this time. Looking back on it though, Ravenshield was still a pretty decent game. I still play R6 Vegas a bit.
It took me a while to stop flaming UBI. A few years of angry ranting in forums. But then I got over it.

[Kernriver]

...

I downloaded the addon about 700mb or so and the read me specifically talks about gold edition and the file replacement list includes both the addons, so that's a yes.

...



Great, thanks for the info!
Well I don't have RVS gold, I have RVS and Ahtena sword discs, and Iron Wrath free download, but I guess it's the same thing.

EDIT:

Offtopic, is it only Johnny Cash you like, or country music in general?
The reason I'm asking is I'm desperately in love with country music. :) (see my sig)

[***LeGeNDK1LLER***]

I will never get over how they ruined my lovely GR :(

mmm they were able to ruin GR too? didnt know that. seems like everything they touch become shit.



I always tell ppl that once UBI started making the games, instead of Red Storm Entertainment, the series went down the tubes.


that's the truth sir, pure and simple.
RS was my first fps and he was great. they fucked up the rainbow saga.
pretty much like CM tryed to do with the ofp brand, but with different result.

[Montanaro]

I loooove me some rouge spear and black thorn

Didn't care for raven shield at all

The Ghost Recons turned to utter sheeeeit. I mean seriously, they ha a great thing going. 1. Counter Terrorism and CQC 2. Special Forces Open Warfare with vehicles and cities.

Why they fucked with that combo I'll never know.

But I must say Rainbow Six Vegas 2 was brilliant

[JonPL]

Didn't care for raven shield at all this

I mean seriously, they ha a great thing going. 1. Counter Terrorism and CQC 2. Special Forces Open Warfare with vehicles and cities. this

Why they fucked with that combo I'll never know. this

But I must say Rainbow Six Vegas 2 was brilliant and this

doesn't go together man

and no, R6 Vegas 2 wasn't great and it wasn't even a true Rainbow Six, unlike Raven Shield, which was fantastic and true to the series.

And FYI guys, the rest of the old, real Red Storm Entertainment, the guys who made these games (R6, GR) great are now known as Black Foot Studios with project "Ground Branch". Google it up, support them.

[Montanaro]

this
this
this
and this

doesn't go together man

and no, R6 Vegas 2 wasn't great and it wasn't even a true Rainbow Six, unlike Raven Shield, which was fantastic and true to the series.

And FYI guys, the rest of the old, real Red Storm Entertainment, the guys who made these games (R6, GR) great are now known as Black Foot Studios with project "Ground Branch". Google it up, support them.

what are you on about? Quoting me made no sense. I stated I didn't like Raven Shield. I stated like I liked R6's and GR and that combo of games shouldn't have been messed with. I also stated that I personally enjoyed Vegas 2.

They were never suppose to "go together" hence the separate paragraphs...

and I never had any illusions of Vegas 2 being like the old R6's. Doesn't make the game any less fun playing with a buddy.

I will check out Ground Branch, I've been dieing for a new R6.

[Kernriver]

..............

And FYI guys, the rest of the old, real Red Storm Entertainment, the guys who made these games (R6, GR) great are now known as Black Foot Studios with project "Ground Branch". Google it up, support them.

NORG all the way mate! :)

[bussinrounds]

Idk, in my eyes, Raven Shield kicks the crap out of any of those R6 Vegas games. That whole going into 3rd person view, when in cover mode, totally kills it for me.

Your hiding behind a wall or whatever, but still able to see everything out there ? Gimmie a break ! If they wanted a cover mode, they should of just done it like Red Orchestra 2 is doing it. No 3rd person nonsense.

[Big Dawg KS]

Well for anyone who as ever read the R6 book or understand how counter-terror units are supposed to operate, Vegas (and its unjustified sequel) throws everything that was R6 out the window. I don't care whether the gameplay is good or not, it does not deserve the title of R6; no more than DR deserves the title of OFP.

Until the plannining phase is brought back and the abnoxious cover-system removed, none of them will ever pass as a proper R6 game in my eyes.

[Tonci87]

The R6 book was awesome. Really one of Clancys very best books

[SWAT_BigBear]

Well for anyone who as ever read the R6 book or understand how counter-terror units are supposed to operate, Vegas (and its unjustified sequel) throws everything that was R6 out the window. I don't care whether the gameplay is good or not, it does not deserve the title of R6; no more than DR deserves the title of OFP.

Until the plannining phase is brought back and the abnoxious cover-system removed, none of them will ever pass as a proper R6 game in my eyes.
^this^
Vegas release, is when I stopped playing the series.

[Tonci87]

^this

me too. It just wasn't a real R6 anymore

[BangTail]

Vegas (1 and 2) and Letdown were truly awful. Run and gun stupidity with yet another unrealistic and implausible story.

I have no doubt that the upcoming R6 will do nothing to 'return to it's roots' apart from mentioning that it will be 'returning to it's roots' right up until release day.

Ubisoft are not interested in any depth, like every other major publisher it's all about false advertising, box sales and endless DLC.

[Montanaro]

I've been playing R6's since original release on PS1.

Vegas certainly isn't "tactical"

But it was still fun as a game. I also loved the customization (which ground branch is also doing)

But I used to love setting up my team members and creating plans. I used to pride myself on not having any team members die throughout a campaign.

[CameronMcDonald]

I've been playing R6's since original release on PS1.

Vegas certainly isn't "tactical"

But it was still fun as a game. I also loved the customization (which ground branch is also doing)

But I used to love setting up my team members and creating plans. I used to pride myself on not having any team members die throughout a campaign.

Good man, I too am averse to losing anyone.

@<hidden> - have you read the Tom Clancy "sequel" to Rainbow Six? Was released in 07, not a bad read either.

Dead or Alive is its name. I use the term sequel loosely because it focuses on Jack Ryan as well as Clark.

[Tonci87]

Yeah I have read Dead or alive, but I think it is a sequel to claws of the Tiger (I think it is called like that in english)

[Krycek]

More maps with varied enviro,planning and good AI for terrorists and team,but noooooooo they had to give us that junk Vegas(Letdown was even worse).

How the fuck a zillion terrorists could escape notice and infiltrate Vegas,hmm maybe they were disguised as tourists playing blackjack and slot machines.Not only that but apparently they still had a million or two of terrorists for Vegas 2.

[sv5000]

The R6 book was awesome. Really one of Clancys very best books

quoted for truth.

[JonPL]

I have a questions for those who know:

Why Iron Wrath wasn't finished and ended up as a fileplanet subscriber bonus?

[])rStrangelove]

I guess it took too long to make and sales / MP players numbers were already going low for R6 mission disks so they thought might as well give it away for the fans.

IronWrath has some very big terrorist hunt levels, a lot to explore and sometimes you cant cover all arcs when navigating the places. Makes it really intense to clear. :)

[4 IN 1]

NORG all the way mate! :)
Well we are in NORG land already, but it wont hurt if there is more NORG anyway isn't it?;)

The only thing that I would complain about RvS is the pixel aiming that force me to stop playing it, all the rainbow six game till RvS have this problem, yet it somehow get more noticeable with the update gfx of RvS.


P.S. Letdown ~ Vegas are just console ports, which will never work right on a PC.

[Big Dawg KS]

Does anyone even play RVS anymore? I couldn't find any populated servers the other day.

[Montanaro]

What do you mean by pixel aiming?

[Jeza]

Does anyone even play RVS anymore? I couldn't find any populated servers the other day.

Yeah I give it a go now and again, but haven't seen any servers lately, normally use tungle and play through that however. :)

[SWAT_BigBear]

SWAT still keeps a server running that usually stays full on Tues & Thurs nites here in the US.
I personally do not admin it any longer as of last summer. PB stopped supporting it, so I gave it up.

IW?
IIRC, it was quickly released early, for free (since not completed) because BF's DLC's were coming out for their 1st time.. back then.

[])rStrangelove]

I would still play it, just msg me on xfire.

[Kernriver]

Well we are in NORG land already, but it wont hurt if there is more NORG anyway isn't it?;)

NORG didn't hurt anyone yet, as far as I know. :D

More NORG, I say! (in Arma too)

Odd thing:
Yesterday I installed RVS gold at my brother's, Iron wrath cd-key seems to be invalid. The same for my friend that bought RVS gold just yesterday.

Does anybody else have this problem?

[JonPL]

IW CD-Key authentication server is dead, no more IW online.


TBH Big Dawg, the really good and tactical coop game online in RvS was a rarity. Better catch up with some from here or with friends and play on your own, private server.

I do that with friends from time to time, yet RvS seems to be forgotten, everybody plays SWAT4 (around 10 or more people within our team), and sadly almost nobody got\play RvS (around 4 people), which surprised me a lot.

[4 IN 1]

What do you mean by pixel aiming?
Pixel aiming simply means the crosshair "jumping" from pixel(s) to pixel(s) when you move your mouse, wouldn't be so much problem when the target was only 50 feet away, it really matter when target goes pass that range.

[Kernriver]

IW CD-Key authentication server is dead, no more IW online.

Oh, ok. Thanks for the info, JonPL.

You saved me from some frustration. :D

[[GR]Operative]

The first Ghost Recon (I still play it, regularly, even mp in public servers, even it being 10 years old) and the first two Rainbow Six simply demolished everything. Both were out of the scope covered by OFP (large battle organization in large scenarios) and were pretty much more minimalistic.
After these titles, things started going down the drain... Guess why.

[4 IN 1]

Well there is a reason why we demand better CQB support from BI don't we? And lets face it, no matter how good ArmA 3 will be it still won't be the realistic CQB tactical shooter that old R6 used to be(we'd be luckly if ArmA3 can replace old GR once and for all if BI work hard enought on the AI CQB ability, be you know that is impossible...)

[solidsnake2384]

Yes itd be nice to have better CQB but Arma is for big battles and its not trying to compete with R6.

[4 IN 1]

Thats why I hope ArmA3 to have better CQB AI so that it could atless complete with(or even surpassing) GR1 in this area.

[Kernriver]

I installed RVS 2.0 and I like it.

There's a bug here and there but I'm used to it. :D


Operative;1993825']The first Ghost Recon (I still play it, regularly, even mp in public servers, even it being 10 years old) and the first two Rainbow Six simply demolished everything. Both were out of the scope covered by OFP (large battle organization in large scenarios) and were pretty much more minimalistic.
After these titles, things started going down the drain... Guess why.

Yeah, I always have these games on my HDD:

OFP
Original GR +expansions
Raven shield +expansions
SWAT 3/4
Hidden & dangerous 1/2

One would think that today developers would make more advanced games then those I mentioned (except original OFP),
both in realism and scope, but no, it's just about making more money.
It's an industry, I understand that.

Only hope is BIS, Tripwire Interactive, and Blackfoot studios (I hope that Ground branch is not vaporware.)

And there's RL too, if gaming goes down the drain. :p

[[GR]Operative]

I still have SWAT3 and GR +expansions installed and play them regularly. Must a get OFP ASAP.
Classics never die.

[BangTail]

I installed RVS 2.0 and I like it.

There's a bug here and there but I'm used to it. :D



Yeah, I always have these games on my HDD:

OFP
Original GR +expansions
Raven shield +expansions
SWAT 3/4
Hidden & dangerous 1/2

One would think that today developers would make more advanced games then those I mentioned (except original OFP),
both in realism and scope, but no, it's just about making more money.
It's an industry, I understand that.

Only hope is BIS, Tripwire Interactive, and Blackfoot studios (I hope that Ground branch is not vaporware.)

And there's RL too, if gaming goes down the drain. :p

We are going backwards in terms of innovation. The only two things that evolve are the graphics and the myriad ways to relieve people of their money.

If it wasn't for BIS, Tripwire, ED et al, I would have ditched PC gaming a long time ago.

[Kernriver]

Well said, guys.

If it wasn't for those older games, I'd use my PC just for watching movies and listening to music. And Arma.

[JonPL]

Don't forget Relic and 1C\Digital Mind Soft

[Big Dawg KS]

Don't forget Relic and 1C\Digital Mind Soft

Relic has been on the edge of my list for a while, but so far news about DoW III is sounding good. As for 1C\DMS, you have to give credit to BestWay as they're the original developers of the MoW series and the GEM engine.

Btw, wasn't this thread about Raven Shield? :j:

[])rStrangelove]

Btw, wasn't this thread about Raven Shield? :j:

Good call.


How about joining an Xfire R6 group for match scheduling? I spotted this one: http://www.xfire.com/communities/rvscommunity/

And here is a thread offering solutions to install IronWrath under Steam (i think): http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1710089

[froggyluv]

Recently installed RS version 2.0 mod -looks ok but how does the MP play out? All coop or is there real PvP? If second, I'm all over it.