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Die Alive

Oct 26 2001, 19:00

If we can't have ***bombers, can we have swords? Or rocks and sticks?

What a silly idea. ***What is the point of having a bomber that does little damage? ***Daft idea keep bombers away.
Then why are there cesnas and civilian cars in the game when they don't do any damage? ***This is a military sim, isn't it? There's a big difference between the amount of damage a B-52 can do or a smaller bomber, like the OV-10 Bronco. ***And what's the problem with the Su25 or A-10? ***There are tanks in the game, isn't there. ***And isn't the A-10 known to be the Tank Killer?

And we're talking about free fall dumb bombs, not laser guided "smart" bombs. ***It still takes some skill on getting the bomb to hit on or near the target. ***You gotta know when to release the bomb, factoring in your speed, altitude, and dive. ***And it's not like you got 10 bombs to play with, the OV-10 Bronco can carry what, 4 bombs maximum. ***It's not as easy as just getting your chopper pointed in the right direction and unloading a bunch of rockets in the general area of your target.

I'll never want to see the fast moving jet bombers in this game, that's for sure. ***But I think a slow moving, prop driven bomber (i.e the Bronco) is a viable option for the game. ***At least give me a hang-glider and a box of grenades.

-=Die Alive=-

Eagle Eyez

Oct 26 2001, 21:28

If you have bombers you don't need infantry? Then why have infantry in Afgan and just not keep bombing? Because it's not effective. Plus you could set it up so the bombers arn't over powerful. Now look at helis. You can missle things on the groud just as well if not better then a bomber. I think a bomber is a GREAT idea. But everyone is entitled to their own opinions.

Slick

Oct 26 2001, 21:58

Yo RAMBO's

Did you ever hear of a thing called air support ??
ask your mommy and daddy about the vietnam war.
In that war they used a lot of infantry + bombers against the north vietnamese army.
or rent the movie hamburger hill you wil see infantry fighting along with the airforce against the V.C.

Air support is very important in modern warefare so they should put it in the game.

Oct 26 2001, 22:01

Man, have you just lost your bottle or something? this is an infantry simulator! You simply ain't getting your bomber!!

Eagle Eyez

Oct 27 2001, 00:49

Man if it's an infantry simulator take out the jeeps, tanks and heli's! I mean, many people have more fun using those on missions and while playing MP! Wait if they did that OFP wouldn't be that great anymore. Come on and stop being so close minded to the bomber idea, if you don't like it fine. Just don't use them. But don't keep trying discourge people from making an addon bomber so the majority of us can enjoy it.

(Edited by Eagle Eyez at 3:50 am on Oct. 27, 2001)

Slick

Oct 27 2001, 07:09

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Man, have you just lost your bottle or something? this is an infantry simulator! You simply ain't getting your bomber!!
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If it's an infanrty simulator it has to be as realistic as can be so we need bombers for close air support.

Why arent there mortars in the game?? a mortar is an infantry tool.

and why did you buy this game I think you wil have more fun playing the delta force series.
if you dont like the freedom of controling other vehicles
then dont play this game.

Supah

Oct 27 2001, 10:38

The OV-10 bronco, in my view is perfect, It fits the timeline, isnt fast , it isnt a game stopper like a b-52 would and it doesnt need gaint runways. Its less of a ludicrous suggestion than a c-130. AND it looks cool ... like some really mutated grasshopper on assorted Hard-drugs:)

Oct 27 2001, 15:40

Yea, now I'm going to whine about a nuclear bomb too! I mean, it doesn't travel fast, and it looks real MINT! Please...NO BOMBER!

OFPbugs

Oct 27 2001, 15:50

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from RedStorm on 6:40 pm on Oct. 27, 2001
Yea, now I'm going to whine about a nuclear bomb too! I mean, it doesn't travel fast, and it looks real MINT! Please...NO BOMBER![/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

A bomber would Rock s**t the A-10 could prob be converted to drop bombs instead of using missles thats a start atleast. RedStormarent you being a bit ohh uhmm ANAL about this whole thing? I mean comeon a bomber is a VALID AND GOOD IDEA!! I love running HUGE battles in OFP 100+ men and lots of Tanks Planes Helos whatever i can find http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif If you havent experienced a HUGE battle in OFP due to limitations by your PC you might want to upgrade your HW cause im sure i speak for all when i say LARGE OFP BATTLES ARE THE SHIZNIT IN OFP http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Oct 27 2001, 15:54

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from OFPbugs on 6:50 pm on Oct. 27, 2001
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Yea, now I'm going to whine about a nuclear bomb too! I mean, it doesn't travel fast, and it looks real MINT! Please...NO BOMBER![/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

A bomber would Rock s**t the A-10 could prob be converted to drop bombs instead of using missles thats a start atleast. RedStormarent you being a bit ohh uhmm ANAL about this whole thing? I mean comeon a bomber is a VALID AND GOOD IDEA!! I love running HUGE battles in OFP 100+ men and lots of Tanks Planes Helos whatever i can find http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif If you havent experienced a HUGE battle in OFP due to limitations by your PC you might want to upgrade your HW cause im sure i speak for all when i say LARGE OFP BATTLES ARE THE SHIZNIT IN OFP http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

Yea, battles with 100+ people are really good, especially when ur in a bomber. You drop 1 or 2 bombs and they're all dead...

Oct 27 2001, 15:55

And BTW, I'm running a AMD Athlon T-bird 1600. That's more than enough for OFP...

Oct 27 2001, 16:01

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Slick on 10:09 am on Oct. 27, 2001
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Man, have you just lost your bottle or something? this is an infantry simulator! You simply ain't getting your bomber!!
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If it's an infanrty simulator it has to be as realistic as can be so we need bombers for close air support.

Why arent there mortars in the game?? a mortar is an infantry tool.

and why did you buy this game I think you wil have more fun playing the delta force series.
if you dont like the freedom of controling other vehicles
then dont play this game.
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And if you like bombers, go play a flight sim.

(Edited by RedStorm at 7:02 pm on Oct. 27, 2001)

Eagle Eyez

Oct 27 2001, 17:33

Kill 100+ people with 1 or 2 bombs? We arn't talking about putting really big bombs into this game. There are plenty of bombs that do much less area damage then that. We never said bombers with nuclear warheads or the A bomb. Just smaller bombs for air cover for troops. I can think of plenty of new missions I could make if only we had a bomber in the game. I think this game would be even better with bombers, so much more things you could do with them in there. Don't worry RedStorm, we'll get you wanting bombers in the game too, just give us time http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Die Alive

Oct 27 2001, 17:43

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from RedStorm on 6:54 pm on Oct. 27, 2001Yea, battles with 100+ people are really good, especially when ur in a bomber. You drop 1 or 2 bombs and they're all dead...[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
They'll all be dead if you use one of these babies (http://www.safaridave.com/pics6.shtml). ***A fifteen thousand pound bomb, the BLU-82 "Daisy Cutter" (http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/dumb/blu-82.htm)is the biggest non-nuke bomb in the US inventory. ***They're dropped from C-130s via parachute, maily used to create LZs in dense forested areas.

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/dumb/blu-82-small_blu.jpg

-=Die Alive=-

Oct 27 2001, 18:21

yea, it would create a landing zone alright...

OFPbugs

Oct 27 2001, 19:55

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from RedStorm on 7:01 pm on Oct. 27, 2001
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Man, have you just lost your bottle or something? this is an infantry simulator! You simply ain't getting your bomber!!
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If it's an infanrty simulator it has to be as realistic as can be so we need bombers for close air support.

Why arent there mortars in the game?? a mortar is an infantry tool.

and why did you buy this game I think you wil have more fun playing the delta force series.
if you dont like the freedom of controling other vehicles
then dont play this game.
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And if you like bombers, go play a flight sim.

(Edited by RedStorm at 7:02 pm on Oct. 27, 2001)
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NOW I KNOW YOUR ANAL RETENTIVE! Man grow up lol spend some time outdoors and stop freeking over a game like its your child lmfao.

Oct 27 2001, 21:57

You talking to me? Here I have a gift that will make you feel better: http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard/images/pips5.gif

Slick

Oct 28 2001, 15:16

you are a real nerd Redstorm.

Do you ever go outside ? or see the news?

Oct 28 2001, 16:57

You are all pathetic...

Devildog815

Oct 28 2001, 17:26

stop saying the bronco is a bomber. give it some respect. the bronco was/is a FAC aircraft. it had some weapons to mark targets not for regular offence. plus its hard enough to fly the aircraft in this game without worrying about dropping bombs on targets you cant see.

Die Alive

Oct 28 2001, 20:50

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Devildog815 on 8:26 pm on Oct. 28, 2001
stop saying the bronco is a bomber. ***give it some respect. ***the bronco was/is a FAC aircraft. ***it had some weapons to mark targets not for regular offence.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>What do you suggest as a slow moving aircraft that can drop ordinance? ***I know it's not a real bomber, but I think it's one of the only aircraft that can keep the game from getting out of hand. ***I don't want aircrafts zooming buy over my heads at Mach 1+, so that's why I'm suggesting the Bronco as a substitute. ***Or how about this A-6E Intruder (http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/a-6.htm)? ***But then again, there's no aircraft carrier to launch them, nor should there be any. ***That's why I think the bronco would fit in nicely.

-=Die Alive=-

Devildog815

Oct 28 2001, 20:55

I dont suggest any bomber aircraft. Not because it wouldnt be cool but just because the concept of the bomber a/c is destroy as much as possible and if you did that then the game would not be any fun. I agree it would be a great thing to have but until they come up with a larger "battle area" (i didnt know what eles to call the islands) then they have no place in the game.

ran

Oct 28 2001, 20:59

there's a massive destruction weapon there :
www.operationflashpoint.cz

in the "neo offici addons" section
download a anti tank missile pack and the weapon will be in one , they ask it the TAR
it's an infantry portative weapon , but you must stay at 1 kilometer far from your target , or you'll be f**ked
it can destroy every thing on the land/air/sea (houses and vegetation included)

Devildog815

Oct 28 2001, 21:17

excuse me sorry but i cannot tell which one it is....could you possibly tell me the exact name for this missle pack?

Wolfman

Oct 28 2001, 23:53

I'm glad you have corrected everyone about the Bronco, Devildog815, cause the idea of describing the Bronco as a bomber was a bit ridiculous. (Although they were great air support in SEAL Team) I am against the bomber idea - ever think why the A-10 and SU 25 were armed with missiles instead of up to about 18 500 pound Snakeyes? Thats 9 tonnes of High Explosive! Massive overkill. Drop that many bombs on a base or treeline and everything within 400 metres is going to be having a seriously bad day. Its just too unbalancing and takes too much away from the game which, at its heart, is meant to be a infantry simulator. Still, I'm sure when enough tools come out, people will make a bomber model/ add-on, but I dont think I will be using it.

Seigfreid75

Oct 29 2001, 02:50

I see many valid reasons for not including bombers in the game. I was wondering if there was any desire to see any more planes implemented at all. I for one would like to see some more Liason/Army Co-op aircraft. I am reminded of the L-5's and Cessna 172's that were used in the bush fighting of Central Africa. The planes carried two 57mm Rocket pods, 1 under each wing. Could an airplane such as that find its way onto everyone's "acceptable" l st?

Devildog815

Oct 29 2001, 03:09

I think those would be acceptable as it would be the same as helos but they never stop moving forward.

Litvyak

Oct 29 2001, 03:42

The main problem with aircraft is the size of the maps. An F-111 would be pointless since it moves too fast tobe usable in such a small playing area. There's no real decent airfields for larger craft (lets see you get a B-52 or a B-1 in the air from Malden or Everon). Most of the smaller craft used as bombers are multi-role supersonic fighters like the F-16, which again are useless due to thier high speeds. Really, there's only a few aircraft that could even remotely be usable as tactical bombers in the game, the A-10 already included, and possably the A-6 or the A-7. Still, bombing's not an easy task, and the mavericks are infinitely easier to use and probably more deadly because of this. Now a Hind with bombs (yes, the Hind can really carry bombs) would be a different story, since it's d*amn hard to miss when you can just hover over the target in your flying tank that can survive a direct hit from a Stinger missile. If you're worried about the deadliness of bombs, maybe you should consider the fact that most aircraft can already spray a full auto barrage of explosive rockets, and some of the Russian aircraft carry ALOT of rockets.

mike romero

Oct 29 2001, 05:24

not on a small island it would no make the game fun "your unde fire your in a tank the fire stops and you hear a wistle that dreaded wistle BaNG your dead" not much fun is it?

Slick

Oct 29 2001, 09:36

Didn't they use hariers on the falklands island's.
those island's are small too but stil they bombed s**t with aicraft.

to hit a tank with one bomb is to difficult.
so i think you would be pretty save in a tank, cobra's and hind's are much more of a threat to a tank than a
plane with dumb bombs.

Devildog815

Oct 29 2001, 10:23

the problem with saying anything about the falklands or any other island campaign is they had the whole entire island chain to fly over to ine up. with this game you get one little island, and while technically you are right about hinds and cobras shooting a bunch of rockets its alot easier than modifying the game to make the avionic systems in new aircraft to be able to drop "dumb" bombs. they may be dumb but you still need a complex avoinics package to be able to identify the target, lock on said target, and get the computers to tell when to drop the bombs.

Remy

Oct 29 2001, 17:37

Ok some of you guys don't get what the f**k im talking about. All im saying is that it would be nice to have a small bomber that has like 4 or 5 bombs. not one that could destroy a whole base or take out a whole army. It would be nice because its hard enough trying to fire and fly su25 with out crashing in to the ground. And if you want to talk about cheap why don't you take out the chopers then. the mi17 f**k its got like 192 small rockets, d*amn that would take out a whole base, why don't you just add a bomber just for fun. and if you don't like it don't f**king fly it.

Oct 29 2001, 17:40

Dude, no offence but the OFP engine just isn't designed for aircraft.

Remy

Oct 29 2001, 17:57

yah I agree with you that this game isn't designed for aircrafts but sense they aready have them in the game you might as well put a bomber in it.

Oct 29 2001, 18:44

I have an idea. Just take away two mavericks on the A10 and replace em with bombs. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

ran

Oct 29 2001, 19:35

kegetys and armourdave have released a a10 and a su25 with some bombs under

Die Alive

Oct 29 2001, 19:43

I got those bomber addons, and they're alright. ***And bombing isn't as easy as pointing the aircraft and launching a bunch of rockets at the target. ***It's hard to dive at your target, know when to pull up and when to release the bombs. ***Plus these are fin-retarded bombs, meaning they slow down on release, so the trajectory is different if they were just dumb iron bombs. ***Still, it's well worth a look if you're interested in seeing how bombing could be added to the game in an official addon.

Get the A10 and Su 25 bombers in The Addon Collection 1.01 (by Kegetys and Armourdave) (http://www.ofpeditingcenter.com/addons_v.asp)

-=Die Alive=-

(Edited by Die Alive at 3:48 pm on Oct. 29, 2001)

Oct 29 2001, 20:11

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Die Alive on 10:43 pm on Oct. 29, 2001
I got those bomber addons, and they're alright. ***And bombing isn't as easy as pointing the aircraft and launching a bunch of rockets at the target. ***It's hard to dive at your target, know when to pull up and when to release the bombs. ***Plus these are fin-retarded bombs, meaning they slow down on release, so the trajectory is different if they were just dumb iron bombs. ***Still, it's well worth a look if you're interested in seeing how bombing could be added to the game in an official addon.

Get the A10 and Su 25 bombers in The Addon Collection 1.01 (by Kegetys and Armourdave) (http://www.ofpeditingcenter.com/addons_v.asp)

-=Die Alive=-

(Edited by Die Alive at 3:48 pm on Oct. 29, 2001)
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Yea, I have those too. The bombs have a very cool model though!

ran

Oct 29 2001, 20:29

i love having some bombing runs against scuds on kolgujev with this beautiful toy http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Thehamster

Oct 29 2001, 20:49

d*amn it i wanna to carpet bomb

Die Alive

Oct 29 2001, 21:34

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i love having some bombing runs against scuds on kolgujev with this beautiful toy http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

I do bombing runs at night with a couple shilkas shooting at me, man I love the rush I get when I'm flying away after a run and I got lots of tracers flying around me.

-=Die Alive=-

OFPbugs

Oct 29 2001, 21:40

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i love having some bombing runs against scuds on kolgujev with this beautiful toy http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

I do bombing runs at night with a couple shilkas shooting at me, man I love the rush I get when I'm flying away after a run and I got lots of tracers flying around me.

-=Die Alive=-[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

I SECOND THE #### OUT OF THAT!! Thats what people are talking about and OFP CAN offer that to US. Redstorm you no likey you no downloadey CAPICE? Night runs with night vision for the pilot wanting to hone in on that Ammo Depot or Shilka depot OHHH YEAH WHAT A RUSH!!! THousands of tracers running past you some putting holes in your wings as you fly thru the heart of enemy teritory SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEET.

ABN RGR SF

Oct 29 2001, 21:58

B52 Bomber + Cluster Bombs & 5,000lb bombs = Carpet bombing fun (FAE's would be nice too)

Bring on the bombers !

If its done in a realistic/semi-realistic manner then having a few missions with a bomber in it wouldn't be overkill

(btw a few more large/larger maps would be nice too, perhaps a winter map too)

(Edited by ABN RGR SF at 1:07 am on Oct. 30, 2001)

Wolfman

Oct 30 2001, 02:21

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I SECOND THE #### OUT OF THAT!! Thats what people are talking about and OFP CAN offer that to US. Redstorm you no likey you no downloadey CAPICE? Night runs with night vision for the pilot wanting to hone in on that Ammo Depot or Shilka depot OHHH YEAH WHAT A RUSH!!! THousands of tracers running past you some putting holes in your wings as you fly thru the heart of enemy teritory SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEET.
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They were trying to go for this idea a while ago by making Falcon 4, an A-10 Simulator, and a Tank - Sim all able to link up together, but I gather the idea died cause of hardware limitations.

Oct 30 2001, 13:02

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i love having some bombing runs against scuds on kolgujev with this beautiful toy http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

I do bombing runs at night with a couple shilkas shooting at me, man I love the rush I get when I'm flying away after a run and I got lots of tracers flying around me.

-=Die Alive=-[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

I SECOND THE #### OUT OF THAT!! Thats what people are talking about and OFP CAN offer that to US. Redstorm you no likey you no downloadey CAPICE? Night runs with night vision for the pilot wanting to hone in on that Ammo Depot or Shilka depot OHHH YEAH WHAT A RUSH!!! THousands of tracers running past you some putting holes in your wings as you fly thru the heart of enemy teritory SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEET.
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Go play IL2 Sturmovik. And take your pills.

Oct 30 2001, 13:04

Don't you get it?! If you want a bomber go play a flight sim. You simply wont get a bomber in this game. But why am I still replying to this post. It's impossible to reason with you children (no offence, not all of you, just a few)

(Edited by RedStorm at 4:04 pm on Oct. 30, 2001)

Die Alive

Oct 30 2001, 14:09

Why am I responding to this post?

-=Die Alive=-

YoungBob

Oct 30 2001, 14:36

:-)
Sometimes the OFP community brings a smile to my face.
One minute its "Wah! <something> in OFP isnt realistic!" and the next "Bombers would be crap because they could drop a big bomb on you and youll be dead - you wouldnt stand a chance!".

Sake, make up your minds whether you want OFP to be realistic or not. Bombers are real. Bombs are real. If youre in the wrong place at the wrong time, bad luck.

If you feel bombers would be unfair or upset the balance of the game, dont install them or play another mission. Dont go slagging the person off who wants them included in the game.
I wouldnt care if BIS put a rubber duck in to throw at the enemy. Its a feature. Use it or leave it.

WhoCares

Oct 30 2001, 15:26

I agree with those who say that we don't need bombers.
Bombers are usually used against strategical targets and quiet ineffective against infantry. (I doubt that one taliban fighter was killed per bomb dropped by US).
Furthermore, bombers often attack from high altitude (esp. if enemy radar capability is weak). Imagine you are gunner in a Shilka and the bomber attacks at 1500m - you can't see him due to the view_distance limitation - good luck http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

wkr

WhoCares

Remy

Oct 30 2001, 15:29

if you don't like the idea of bombers don't f**king post anything you little f**ks. you keeps on saying s**t about bombers. this is only a POSITIVE post no negative stuff about bombers, ok good. and im not saying this to everyone just a couple of people that stay on this board all day and reply to every post they see.(some poeple have posted over 1000 posts)(what life they have)

Oct 30 2001, 16:01

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:-)
Sometimes the OFP community brings a smile to my face.
One minute its "Wah! <something> in OFP isnt realistic!" and the next "Bombers would be crap because they could drop a big bomb on you and youll be dead - you wouldnt stand a chance!".

Sake, make up your minds whether you want OFP to be realistic or not. Bombers are real. Bombs are real. If youre in the wrong place at the wrong time, bad luck.

If you feel bombers would be unfair or upset the balance of the game, dont install them or play another mission. Dont go slagging the person off who wants them included in the game.
I wouldnt care if BIS put a rubber duck in to throw at the enemy. Its a feature. Use it or leave it.

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And I want a Nuke. It has to be able to blow the whole island up. If you don't lik eit, don't use it. d*amn, I wont reply to this stupid post anymore. You can figure the rest out for yourself.

Remy

Oct 30 2001, 16:11

then don't reply to this post. im d*amn surprised that 65 people have posted a reply to this post. it started out as just something that would be cool then you some of you guys turned it into a big argument.

Oct 30 2001, 16:57

I'm not replying.....BTW, we had this argument because the guys that have been hanging out on this forum for longer know that a bomber is stupid. It's sorta like: New ones against old timers. Trust me, a bomber is BAADDD for OFP. Check the "search". The thing has been asked for countless of times, but no one ever gav a d*amn!

Die Alive

Oct 30 2001, 18:21

Napalm.

-=Die Alive=-

Scooby

Oct 30 2001, 20:11

Napalm is sticky and its fumes smell bad.

Wouldnt work in OFP.

Slick

Oct 30 2001, 21:07

If you dont like bomber's start a new thread about it
and dont post here.

Go start a The redstorm and his whining b*tch ass friends dont like anything thread.

Scooby

Oct 30 2001, 21:38

Ofcourse I let my dislike of idea about bombers to be heard under this topic.

Who are you to moderate these boards? If BIS sees no opposition against idea of bombers they might be fool enough to listen idiots who want them to OFP.

Slick

Oct 30 2001, 21:52

They won't listen to you because you and redstorm and some other blokes always complain about every thing.

you are only on this board so you can whine about stuff
why don't you bring some nice idea's to this board for new addons. Be creative for a change.

Kegetys for example makes new stuff and has new idea's. I dont see him whining about other peoples thoughts.

Remy

Oct 30 2001, 22:48

I like you Slick, your right if your gonna b*tch and complain go and make a new tread and b*tch about it there, this was just an idea for me and my friends, i just wanted them to make it an option so that poeple that did want to fly a bomber could

Devildog815

Oct 30 2001, 23:03

Just want to say, cut it with the f**k this and f**k that. Not appropriate. Also if someone wants to make their opinions known who are you to stop them, this goes for both sides of the argument. Myself personally am opposed to the idea of a bomber. If you really must have one then make it yourself or talk to someone who can. Stop saying I WOULD LIKE THIS AND THAT and then complain when you run into someone who doesnt. Quit the bit*hin' and do something about it.

Die Alive

Oct 30 2001, 23:09

I want to see either mortars or bombers, one or the other or both. ***I don't want to see aircraft carriers like other's have asked for, I just want an aircraft that can drop bombs, not big f'in bombs, just maybe 250lbs or 500lbs bombs, maybe some cluster bombs.

I know some of you's don't want to see any bombers in the game as it is right now. ***I can see why with the AA rockets being as buggy as they are, and how hard it's to fly the aircrafts. ***But I think in time, with fixes and tweaks of the physics, with addional Anti-Aircraft Weapons, and some larger maps, bombers are a possibility. ***At this point and time of the game's development, bombers wouldn't be-shouldn't be a priority to the developers. ***I'd like them to fix lots of other aspects of the game first. ***I don't expect to see a bomber in the game for some time now, but eventually, there will be one.

"Who are you to moderate these boards? If BIS sees no opposition against idea of bombers they might be fool enough to listen idiots who want them to OFP."
I let the developers decide what goes in and what doesn't. I don't expect anything from them, nor do I b*tch or whine when something goes in or isn't in. I take what I get and play with what I got. ***Take the addition of the AUG in the next addon. I'm pretty sure someone suggested it, and they looked at the idea and went with it. ***Now there's quite a few people up in arms with that decision. ***One of the reasons I like posting here is because some of our suggestions may make it into the game, and I think that's cool. ***I feel there's a time and place for every addon, no matter what it is. ***Most of the suggested addons aren't do-able, but that's ok, because right now isn't the time for most of them anyway. ***But if we all keep our cool and let time do it's work, I'm sure the game will play out.

-=Die Alive=-

Devildog815

Oct 30 2001, 23:34

About time someone started making sense. I totally agree with you. When the other problems are fixed and when it is more appropriate for bombers then I agree they should be added but as the game is right now with the smaller islands and that the game is doing a infantry sim rather than everything sim then bombers will have to wait (this of course being my own opinion as to why they should not be included). Mortars on the other hand would be a great add-on at the moment, good thinking.

Scooby

Oct 31 2001, 00:52

I used to try to write some actual positive suggestions and ideas what could be added into game and what could be changed in order to make it more realistic.

I noted that BIS really didnt seem to be very interestied about it since the biggest group of people are the 14 year old ones who want to get every "cool" piece of equipment or special forces unit they happen to see in TV without thinking how it is used and why it should or should not be in OFP.

I though that it would be better stop wasting my time and rather just to focus my aim to get idiot population out of these boards and atleast get some negative feedback to their ideas which go along the line of MRLS, Aircraft carriers, Fighters, Bombers, Nukes, etc.

My main focus earlier on was to get BIS to realize that infantry has alot of work to do and that infantry is seriously handicapped at the moment. Result being that infantry gets worthless eye candy to use such as rotating grenade launchers, G36 and steyr aug.

GFX707

Oct 31 2001, 01:32

Well said Scooby http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

YoungBob

Oct 31 2001, 09:17

I agree with you scooby but there is nothing wrong with people - whatever age - posting their opinion on this board. (Im much more than 14 years old BTW :-)
I just dislike when someone who's gone and purchased OFP posts 'I want a flamethrower' only to get a reply by some realist gun-nut calling him a 'retard'.

Suddy

Oct 31 2001, 12:14

Ok S-T-U-P-I-D Kidies! Not everybody! A Bomber is very usefull thats for sure! But now to the others who says ´for example: A bomber in an infatry simulator.... WHO DA #### SAID OFP IS AN INFANTRY SIM??? OFP IS A REALISTIC WAR SIMULATION AND IF YOU WANT TO SIMULATE WAR YOU NEED AIRSUPPOT, INFANTRY, TANKS AND MAY MORE!!! SO WHAT???

Iam German hit me if you can http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Oct 31 2001, 16:37

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Suddy on 3:14 pm on Oct. 31, 2001
Ok S-T-U-P-I-D Kidies! Not everybody! A Bomber is very usefull thats for sure! But now to the others who says ´for example: A bomber in an infatry simulator.... WHO DA #### SAID OFP IS AN INFANTRY SIM??? OFP IS A REALISTIC WAR SIMULATION AND IF YOU WANT TO SIMULATE WAR YOU NEED AIRSUPPOT, INFANTRY, TANKS AND MAY MORE!!! SO WHAT???

Iam German hit me if you can http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

Fly your plane any higher than 200 feet. Than you'll see why it isn't a fly sim...

Propain

Oct 31 2001, 16:52

right on...im with scoob..

Nov 1 2001, 13:53

Hey why do you think it is lame to have bombers in the game
I think it is a good idea to have bombers and Scud missils in the game.
No one says that they have to be in every mission
But, They would be great in coop missions,
(save the world from Atomic Destruction!!
or save a city from being bombed in to pices!!.

That Would be Great!!!

Remy

Nov 1 2001, 16:44

Yah, i like the last guys comment. And I really liked Suddy because he is telling the truth about ofp. The bomber was apart of war. mostly in ww2. But since this is a cold war and it is more in the further in the future than ww2 Im pretty d*amn shure they would use bombers in the war again. Dont you think so?

Nov 1 2001, 16:50

You don't even want to know how many of these topics I have discussed. It always ends in an 'NO' so don't even bother. Do a search in the forum. You'll come up with tens of bomber request. It's just a plain srupid request. It would be cool to have in cutscenes, but NOT as a flyable plane.

Ruskie

Nov 1 2001, 17:08

yeah, i agree. it shouldn't be anyway, but if it is then it should be strickly for show. it'll probably be crap and hard get right if its put in the game, and even then it'd be overkill.

Remy

Nov 2 2001, 04:44

Ok this thread is officaly closed now, way to many f**king replys to it. It was just a joke
hahahahha

The Jub Jub Bird

Nov 2 2001, 22:03

What do you mean officically closed?

I am ith the veterans on this one, bombers have no stratigic value in this game, nor could they be implamented.

Nov 2 2001, 22:11

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Ok this thread is officaly closed now, way to many f**king replys to it. It was just a joke
hahahahha
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Wow, we sure had a great time...

drewb99

Nov 3 2001, 03:07

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from The Jub Jub Bird on 1:03 am on Nov. 3, 2001
What do you mean officically closed?

I am ith the veterans on this one, bombers have no stratigic value in this game, nor could they be implamented.
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Haven't you paid attention for the last 2 weeks? Kegetys made a rather nice bomber from the A10, it's in the game, it works. It's not the incredibly powerful superplane you somehow see it as, it makes an excelent low altitude bomber and seems to snap right into place in OFP.

The Jub Jub Bird

Nov 3 2001, 21:25

Thats not a bomber in the true sense of the word "bomber", the A-10 is a close-support attack aircraft. A bomber is like a B-52 for example, which drops its payload from an altitude far outside the games engines capability and any weapon range of the game. The payload dropped by these types is also far, far more than is neccessary for this game, or an conflict like this in general. They could flatten the island in one fly over.

Tactical bombers were also spoke of. Now tactical bombers, I am thinking of planes like an F-16 for example (is infact a multirole air-combat fighter with advance ground attack capabilities) would be useless on islands of this scale. The maps in this game are 14km square, thats less than 4km either way, which means that at full cruising speed these planes could pass the island in less thna a second. With it hard enough to see things as it is try hitting a target at that speed. You need, smart guided bombs, which it'll please you to here are being added into the game with the next patch as a part of the A-10 load-out and guided by a black op laser which was added in patch number 1.29.

Anything else?

Oh, I nearly forgot, I wouldn't mind seeing a Bronco, those things rock.

(Edited by The Jub Jub Bird at 11:29 pm on Nov. 3, 2001)

Nov 3 2001, 21:38

OMG, next their gonna be asking for a B-17 or a B-29 or maybe even a PE-8 :biggrin:

The Jub Jub Bird

Nov 3 2001, 21:41

I don't think BIS is stupid enough to add them into the game.

Devildog815

Nov 3 2001, 21:57

all i have to say is d*amn skippy. i would love to see a Bronco in the game but in its normal role not the one that some people who can think straight are trying to say. and also i agree with both the large bombers and fighter-bombers would be usless in the game. thanks for the help in telling these people how stupid this idea is at the moment.

Nov 3 2001, 21:59

Say, I was the one starting the counter bomber thing http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif I should get all the credit (and chicks) :biggrin:

The Jub Jub Bird

Nov 3 2001, 22:29

Yeah, but I sure as #### put up the best resistance and argument. Ok ok, a little late but I've been away, give us a break.

Nov 3 2001, 22:53

I've had the hardest time. I've been arguing with these guys for 6 pagas!

Die Alive

Nov 3 2001, 22:57

I think the fact that this topic as gone as long as it has is because we all agree to disagree. ***But ***I still want my BOMBER (http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/dumb/cbu-tmd_38.jpg).

-=Die Alive=-

Ruskie

Nov 3 2001, 23:08

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Ruskie on 8:08 pm on Nov. 1, 2001
yeah, i agree. it shouldn't be anyway, but if it is then it should be strickly for show. it'll probably be crap and hard get right if its put in the game, and even then it'd be overkill.
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this statement pretty much killed all the arguing, at least for while. so i deserve a few chicks and maybe some money too.....

Die Alive

Nov 3 2001, 23:15

WooHoo! 100th reply

I think we all made our arguments, stated what we felt, and that's about it, there's not much more left to argue over. ***Maybe now we can get a BIS member to read over all the arguments and come up with a verdict on who has won, that be nice.

-=Die Alive=-

The Jub Jub Bird

Nov 3 2001, 23:23

Well I still think I put the winnning plug in the argument. Send me the ladies!

Nov 3 2001, 23:24

RedStorm did ofcourse. But that's just by the shear beauty and intelligence he emits. :biggrin:

Supah

Nov 4 2001, 19:15

The US experimented with mini-gun ships in vietnam. I believe they used a turbo-porter or something similar with a minigun in it. That might prove cool too. As for the ppl saying it is stupid of remy to request a b-52 (which he didnt i believe) DUH. Like it or not CAS is a important part of US Strategy and if u say its a soldier sim and it needs to be realistic aircraft NEED to be in the game.

Devildog815

Nov 4 2001, 19:38

that is what the A-10 is for....it is a low-speed aircraft more suitable to the islands than a supersonic fighter-bomber that would fly the entire island before you could find the target and drop the payload. as for the large bombers as it was said before they fly well above visual range and drop too large of a payload for them to be included. then people say to lower the amount of bombs they drop.....how would you like to see a large bomber drop 5 bombs instead of 30 or whatnot? kinda silly.

Remy

Nov 5 2001, 05:46

HOLY f**kING s**t!!! d*amn i thought most of you guys hated the idea of this thread even beening up. i mean some of you have been replying to everyone of the pages on this thread. And for The Jub Jub Bird I don't f**king care if your a veteran. this is my thread not yours. I poasted this thread like 3 weeks ago and its still going strong. d*amn. How many people can say there thread got 7 pages added on to it. I can. well i just like replying to my thread so please keep on fighting on if there should be bomber or not. I still think there should be because it would make the game more fun. well there my $1000 cya.

Remy

Nov 5 2001, 05:49

Oh yah. I just have to say thank you to all you who replied for what ever side you where on. You made my dream come true I got over 100 replys to my thread thanks alot.

Nov 5 2001, 07:45

Wow, now you must feel so cool huh? You probably feel like "da man" now.

Remy

Nov 5 2001, 17:51

I do feel like the man. Thanks alot

The Jub Jub Bird

Nov 5 2001, 19:11

Hey some are easily impressed, oh and Remy, I wasn't trying to impress noone by suggesting that I am a veteran to the forums, only that having read god knows how many threads I kinda know what alot of people think and how things would work in the game. I think the information I posted was invaluable in making alot of peoples minds up on this one.

Slick

Nov 5 2001, 23:59

Jub Jub end His Gay friend redstorm are a bunch of whinning old woman.

probably a couple of poindexters in real life.
mommie the people on the flashpoint forum are teasing me http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

Remy

Nov 6 2001, 01:45

Well I have nothing to say.......

Devildog815

Nov 6 2001, 02:43

Well its about time with you and your friends b*t*hing all the time. Anyways NO BOMBERS till the make bigger maps.

Remy

Nov 6 2001, 05:50

i can agree with that.

Slick

Nov 6 2001, 16:43

I dont want a stinking B-52 Give me a turbo prop that drops bomb's or an official A-10 with bomb's.

Rockets suck d**k
.

Die Alive

Nov 6 2001, 17:14

The problem is that in 1985, there weren't too many prop-driven aircraft that were also ground attack aircrafts. ***####, even in Vietnam war, it was either a fast mover jet dropping bombs, or a slow prop-driven, WWII era, Skyraider ground attack aircraft, that were used as air support. ***In 1985, the only prob-driven aircraft that could be used as a "bomber", that would be the OV-10 Bronco. ***Even then, the Bronco is really a recon aircraft/Forward Air Controler, not a true bomber that some of us want. ***The Bronco, in Vietnam, carried WP marking rockets pods, HE rocket pods, and sometimes a centerline mini-gun. Latter in 1980s, there were fitted with bombs and other stuff, and were flown until after the Gulf war. ***But that doesn't make them "bombers." It's just that I'd like to see an aircraft that's slow enough that can allow us to see any targets on the ground when flying low. ***You don't spot soldiers at 15 thousand feet and at Mach 1.5

I don't see how a ground attack aircraft that is faster than the A-10, could be added to the game as it is right now. ***In order for any bombers to be added, there should be:<ul>
Larger playing enviroments
More air bases in those enviroments, not just one, but one for each side, with runways long enough for these aircrafts
More Anti-Aircraft systems; such as stationary AA guns, better AA missiles and such. ***I'd stay way from large SAM systems because those are ususlly radar guided and can cover the entire playing area.
Better flight controls and flight physics[/list]

I never expected "bombers" to be added in the next update, maybe not even in the update after that, but I could see "bombers" added to a sequal or possibly to a Mod or something.

-=Die Alive=-

The Jub Jub Bird

Nov 6 2001, 19:09

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Slick on 1:59 am on Nov. 6, 2001
Jub Jub end His Gay friend redstorm are a bunch of whinning old woman.

probably a couple of poindexters in real life.
mommie the people on the flashpoint forum are teasing me http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
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I was never whinning. I was just stating that they couldn't fit into the game and gave proven facts to back up and support my case.

I only posted on this thread a few times and it seems to have worked. There have been no more requests for bombers and the only support for the uneducated has been to b*tch about me putting their idea down.

I'm sorry, but it wouldn't work guys.

The new A-10 with 1.30 has guided bombs, and I wouldn't mind a Bronco, that would work.

Nov 6 2001, 20:07

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Slick on 2:59 am on Nov. 6, 2001
Jub Jub end His Gay friend redstorm are a bunch of whinning old woman.

probably a couple of poindexters in real life.
mommie the people on the flashpoint forum are teasing me http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
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You're REALLY pathetic. Just because someone doesn't agree with you were are a bunch of whining gays? That's so childish dude.

Slick

Nov 7 2001, 01:03

Redstorm go suck some d**k
.

I dont like you because you whine ***all the time
and when someone makes a mod you say yeah you are a god man i'll suck your d**k
etc.

I like it when people make mods but i didnt put my tongue in keyget's ####### like you did.

Ps: you are not the only ass kisser on this board.

(Edited by Slick at 4:06 am on Nov. 7, 2001)

Devildog815

Nov 7 2001, 01:14

Hey there Slick.....I wonder who you are trying impress with all that language? You 8 year old girlfriend? Such comments are uncalled for and unwarranted as RedStorm is just giving his honest opinion abiout topics on this forum....just like Remy was when he started this thing. I agree with the idea that a bomber would be nice to have to I disagree that it would be good for the game at THIS period of time. I would give it some time let the space get bigger than I'd be glad to have bombers. I dont think Remy is a bod person or sucking someone's *&$% just cause he wants something that I dont think I would want. Hey if he wants it and can get someone to make a bomber for him....more power to him. Keep any harsh and uncalled for language out of here please. SEMPER FI

Loki e

Nov 7 2001, 06:39

d*amn i cant believe i just read that whole thread man u guys just need to chill out and smoke some tree and if u dont smoke drink some herbal tea or somethin hey im all about bombers which carry a small ordinance or anything else anyone wants aslong as they dont include it in thier official upgrades and make it an optional addon like the rotational grenade launcher currently is then when u play online you will know if the host is playin a mission with the bomber addon cuz im sure they will put it in the room name or everyone who doesnt have the addon will be dropped when launched and all this talk about this being an infintry sim i dont know who says that that is what this is or even if bis describes the game this way but this is a war sim u have tanks helis jeeps and all kinds of s**te (no im not scottish i just like to say s**t that way cuz its cool) oh and good job remy i commend u on the ammount of responce this post has gotten obviosly it is an issue some peeps feel strongly bout and good argument has been a result

Casto

Nov 7 2001, 12:02

the are planning to releas a bomber check it out.
http://www.3dactionplanet.com/flashpoint

Die Alive

Nov 7 2001, 15:59

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Loki e on 1:39 am on Nov. 7, 2001
d*amn i cant believe i just read that whole thread man u guys just need to chill out and smoke some tree and if u dont smoke drink some herbal tea or somethin hey im all about bombers which carry a small ordinance or anything else anyone wants aslong as they dont include it in thier official upgrades and make it an optional addon like the rotational grenade launcher currently is then when u play online you will know if the host is playin a mission with the bomber addon cuz im sure they will put it in the room name or everyone who doesnt have the addon will be dropped when launched and all this talk about this being an infintry sim i dont know who says that that is what this is or even if bis describes the game this way but this is a war sim u have tanks helis jeeps and all kinds of s**te (no im not scottish i just like to say s**t that way cuz its cool) oh and good job remy i commend u on the ammount of responce this post has gotten obviosly it is an issue some peeps feel strongly bout and good argument has been a result
[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>I'll add these for you ..........................,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

-=Die Alive=-

jepuskar

Nov 7 2001, 20:14

Hello children! I just got done reading this entire thread...not every post but the majority of them. This is my first and last post on this thread so I will make my case and then move back to the Beta thread where i belong.

1)As mentioned before, there is no airfield large enough to handle a bomber takeoff/landing..so bombers are not going to be added to OFP unless they do some modifications to the maps. I don't see that happening.

2)If bombers could be used I do not think it would ruin the game. I think it is pretty hard to spot troops while in a chopper and d*amn near impossible while in a plane. A bomber dropping dumb bombs would not ruin this game.

3)If bombers would be added to the game obviously some more defensive equipment would be needed on the ground to fend them off. The posts on here act like the bombers would roam freely and bomb at will. Not the case.

My final point to the people who do not want bombers. That HIND with the 192 rockets is IMO more deadly than any bomber BI could implement. It is low flying and can essentially 'carpet bomb' an area with its rockets. I think that is capable of destroying as much as any bomber.

I don't foresee BI adding bombers to the game, but I would be in favor of it. Why not? You don't like em, don't us em. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

The Jub Jub Bird

Nov 7 2001, 20:36

ignore this post. (duplicate)

(Edited by The Jub Jub Bird at 10:50 pm on Nov. 7, 2001)

The Jub Jub Bird

Nov 7 2001, 20:38

Why not? Well for a start the game engine doesn't support flight at the hights that bombers, such as B-52s fly at. At that hight, the islands are even more of a spec to look at from a distance. There is no tactical reason to use them in this conflict.

But should new whole, large islands, be created where bombers would hold strategic value, then I would welcome them, untill then BIS won't add any for the game.

Operation Vietnam will be, and I can't wait for it.

skaghead

Nov 7 2001, 20:40

won't operation vietnam have the 'Sandy' (skyraider)?
If only that was still in service in '85.

The Jub Jub Bird

Nov 7 2001, 20:47

Actually looking at the site the Skyraider is one of only two planes promised. The other one is a C-130, oh maybe we could push fuel-air bombs outta the back ramp!?

OFPbugs

Nov 7 2001, 23:04

Redstorm slowly put the crack pipe down there buddy! You have got to be IMHO one of the lamest mofos i have EVER been privelaged to see posts of why you ask? Simple Someone posts a topic of bombers in OFP great idea! Now your allowed to disagree with what he thinks BUT dont be a 2 year old about it!! How many times did you say you weren't going to reply anymore? Thats what made me laugh alot http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif ***Secondly with ALL the Mods being pumped out nowadays for OFP I can promise you there will be a bomber addon. If you dont like the idea of a bomber DONT INSTALL THE F UCKER CUNT RAG! And as far as you being an old timer along with you other so called "old timers" HAHAHAHA The mere sight of some Vietnam vet playing OFP and chatting with a younger generation on how incorrect they are about there ideas on what OFP should be! Its like a 50 year old Vet Trying to fit in in high school again hahahahahha. I myself am 24 i have a wife and a 1 year old son I speak from what i know and its just a shame and disgracefull period that you CLAIM to be someone your not OR you are that someone and you bi tch at a younger generation ABOUT A GAME!!!! How laughable is that? I learned along time ago to not "pretend i know everything" and Redstorm Jub Jub you dont either so get off the high horse you ride and your seriously obsessive attitudes TOWARDS A VIDEO GAME and come back to earth for a bit! I enjoy my life to the fullest its sad when people waste there lives bi tching on the internet http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

/me ends rant

(Edited by OFPbugs at 2:13 am on Nov. 8, 2001)

OFPbugs

Nov 7 2001, 23:26

I couldnt resist this so i gotta let it out

I joined the board on July 17, 2001
Member Title: Member
Last Post: Last posted in Bomber are a mint idea on Nov. 8, 2001
Total Posts: 98

You joined the Board on
ug. 1, 2001
Member Title: Member
Last Post: Last posted in Mouse Balls on Nov. 7, 2001
Total Posts: 1863

Do you see how truly lame you are with the amount of posting you do?? You are either a Sad Unemployed mommas boy STILL living at home Or a retired ####### who collects unemployment and SS checks who has nothing better to do with there time!!! So what is it and dont tell me some off the wall story either like your a LT Col in your army over there in holland!! Lame bro just Lame lameness surrounds you like an white on rice!

I still stand by what i said earlier with you taking a trip or 2 outside "go buy a hooker over there i know its legal" smoke some of that fine hashish you have as well l4m3r

RedRogue

Nov 8 2001, 01:01

You might want to consider one thing however.

And this might also be a reason why a model plugin or SDK for people to make their own weapons/vechiles hasn't been released yet.

We all know that you tend to spend more time trying to get into a game due to the unforgiving lack of a join in progress feature, than we actually spend playing the game. (MP time only.)

Now you say if you don't like a mod/addon if it where available don't install it. Well without control of official addons of large nature it would be difficult to find a game that you have all the nessasary mods for if modding was freely available for import.

There isn't much room to describe what is need in the mission description anyway, and nor is there room for you to find out before game.

So however I would think it would be nice for people to addon and make all sorts of new stuff, I would think it would be great when/if BIS or CS or whoever releases a SDK that they would collect and review third party addons submitted to them and then package them up for a official addon.

Them retaining control of what can or cannot be added does have this benifit for me, as I would not want to spend 90% of my MP time looking and getting dropped from games cause I didn't have this addon or that addon, since I spend 60% just looking for a good game as it currently is.

Everyone has an opinion, we might like it, we might hate it but they have the right to one anyway.

Remy

Nov 8 2001, 06:09

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
i Like you OFPbugs you tell it like it is. this is my lame thread i don't know why people reply to it they really don't like the idea of bomber and they said it manny manny times. And i don't care what there opion is. but only state it once no more than that. I still think bombers would be mint. but i just like to have the last word sense it is my thread

The Jub Jub Bird

Nov 8 2001, 20:53

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from OFPbugs on 1:04 am on Nov. 8, 2001
Redstorm slowly put the crack pipe down there buddy! You have got to be IMHO one of the lamest mofos i have EVER been privelaged to see posts of why you ask? Simple Someone posts a topic of bombers in OFP great idea! Now your allowed to disagree with what he thinks BUT dont be a 2 year old about it!! How many times did you say you weren't going to reply anymore? Thats what made me laugh alot http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif ***Secondly with ALL the Mods being pumped out nowadays for OFP I can promise you there will be a bomber addon. If you dont like the idea of a bomber DONT INSTALL THE F UCKER CUNT RAG! And as far as you being an old timer along with you other so called "old timers" HAHAHAHA The mere sight of some Vietnam vet playing OFP and chatting with a younger generation on how incorrect they are about there ideas on what OFP should be! Its like a 50 year old Vet Trying to fit in in high school again hahahahahha. I myself am 24 i have a ***wife and ***a 1 year old son I speak from what i know and its just a shame and disgracefull period that you CLAIM to be someone your not OR you are that someone and you bi tch at a younger generation ABOUT A GAME!!!! How laughable is that? I learned along time ago to not "pretend i know everything" and Redstorm Jub Jub you dont either so get off the high horse you ride and your seriously obsessive attitudes TOWARDS A VIDEO GAME and come back to earth for a bit! I enjoy my life to the fullest its sad when people waste there lives bi tching on the internet http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

/me ends rant

(Edited by OFPbugs at 2:13 am on Nov. 8, 2001)
[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

OFPBugs, I never got on my "high horse", I never got shirty, angry or pushy on this thread (which is more than I can say about others - namely those defending the initial idea). All I ever did was state that I didn't like the idea (I am intitled to my opinion) and stated why with evidence and facts, just like in any other good debate.

Who in the entire thread said that they were an "old timer"? I couldn't find it. I said that I was a veteran to the forum. But by that I only meant that I have read tonnes of these requests and read their outcomes and seen both sides.

Then just 22 minutes after you finished your post you send a new one directed at Redstorm. This post was totally unneccessary, particularly as the offensive, abusive and juvinile tone of langauge was partly what you were standing against in the last post.

And Remy, why can't people opposed to you idea post on this thread? Can't quite understand your argument there, could you please explain it?

Remy

Nov 9 2001, 18:40

they can oppose it on this thread just don't say it more that once. that all.

RedRogue

Nov 9 2001, 18:54

If they can only argue against the idea of bombers, then you can only defend it once, otherwise you are just being a hipocrit. (spelling?)

Personally I don't see a small bomber being that bad at all, But maybe an old AC-47 Spooky would be fun, 3 7.62mm Minigatlings and a sight on the left side of the cockpit to target them loosely.

The guns where fixed so there would be no targeting of vechiles (like you could hurt them with 7.62mm) anyway.

Hmmm to bad though i just realised that even though all the guns would be fixed an controlled by the pilot, you couldn't have 3 of them firing at the same time anyway cause the OFP game engine doesn't allow for it. so It wouldn't be much better than the UH-60 MG with manual fire on.

The Jub Jub Bird

Nov 9 2001, 20:50

You could have all three guns firing as long as they are apart of one weapon. eg, FFARs, tow pods on all US choppers in game.

Nov 9 2001, 21:59

I'd concider bombers if BIS would totally re-do the flight physics and make the islands viewable from higher than 200 feet, make the islands bigger, put some SAM sites in, create a new anti-lag system that wouldn't lag everybody out when 2 bombers drop their bomb load, the bombers would be small and only capable of carrying 5 bombs or so, made a limit of three useable per team and increase the runway length. Seeing as I hardly doubt BIS will EVER re-do any of the islands, I think you'll have to wait for OV. Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see bombers, but it's just impossible in OFP the way it is.

Nov 9 2001, 22:08

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from OFPbugs on 2:26 am on Nov. 8, 2001
I couldnt resist this so i gotta let it out

I joined the board on July 17, 2001
Member Title: Member
Last Post: Last posted in Bomber are a mint idea on Nov. 8, 2001
Total Posts: 98

You joined the Board on
ug. 1, 2001
Member Title: Member
Last Post: Last posted in Mouse Balls on Nov. 7, 2001
Total Posts: 1863

Do you see how truly lame you are with the amount of posting you do?? You are either a Sad Unemployed mommas boy STILL living at home Or a retired ####### who collects unemployment and SS checks who has nothing better to do with there time!!! So what is it and dont tell me some off the wall story either like your a LT Col in your army over there in holland!! Lame bro just Lame lameness surrounds you like an white on rice!

I still stand by what i said earlier with you taking a trip or 2 outside "go buy a hooker over there i know its legal" smoke some of that fine hashish you have as well l4m3r

[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

HAHA! I truly had fun reading that. You seemed very curious to what I was actually doing in my spare time. Now, I don't want to dissapoint you, but I'm still living at home with my "momma". And yes, lameness surrounds me doesn't it? Smells good eh? Or are you just jealous that I wasn't wanking while writing my posts and thus being able to make more posts than you did? Again, thanks for the nice read. I really don't care what you think about me. But wait!...That wasn't it all just yet! I have one more thing for you!:

http://www.theunholytrinity.org/cracks_smileys/contrib/anym/behead.gif
http://contrabandent.com/pez/contrib/geno/asshole2.gif

OFPbugs

Nov 9 2001, 22:31

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from RedStorm on 1:08 am on Nov. 10, 2001
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from OFPbugs on 2:26 am on Nov. 8, 2001
I couldnt resist this so i gotta let it out

I joined the board on July 17, 2001
Member Title: Member
Last Post: Last posted in Bomber are a mint idea on Nov. 8, 2001
Total Posts: 98

You joined the Board on
ug. 1, 2001
Member Title: Member
Last Post: Last posted in Mouse Balls on Nov. 7, 2001
Total Posts: 1863

Do you see how truly lame you are with the amount of posting you do?? You are either a Sad Unemployed mommas boy STILL living at home Or a retired ####### who collects unemployment and SS checks who has nothing better to do with there time!!! So what is it and dont tell me some off the wall story either like your a LT Col in your army over there in holland!! Lame bro just Lame lameness surrounds you like an white on rice!

I still stand by what i said earlier with you taking a trip or 2 outside "go buy a hooker over there i know its legal" smoke some of that fine hashish you have as well l4m3r

[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

HAHA! I truly had fun reading that. You seemed very curious to what I was actually doing in my spare time. Now, I don't want to dissapoint you, but I'm still living at home with my "momma". And yes, lameness surrounds me doesn't it? Smells good eh? Or are you just jealous that I wasn't wanking while writing my posts and thus being able to make more posts than you did? Again, thanks for the nice read. I really don't care what you think about me. But wait!...That wasn't it all just yet! I have one more thing for you!:

http://www.theunholytrinity.org/cracks_smileys/contrib/anym/behead.gif
http://contrabandent.com/pez/contrib/geno/asshole2.gif

[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA You take everything so seriously dont you http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif All you did in your last post was confirm exactly how gay and how much of a true wanker you really are. Why dont you go back to sheep fuc king and playing OFP at the same time as you truly are one of the most dillusional crotchety morons i have ever seen. Ohhh btw thanks for the GIF's ill add that to my collection. Now go post some more unintelligable unintersting opinions about how your "momma" should let you play more online since you are only 12 years old.

Bye Bye toddler boy

Nov 9 2001, 22:41

hmm...no actually, I'm 16, and btw, no problem, I hope you're happy with your new smilies I think you'll use em allot. And no, I fu*cked my sheep before I went posting on these boards, so there's no need to fu*ck em again. That would make them tired and that would mean I can't use them tomorrow, thanks for the care though!

(Edited by RedStorm at 1:43 am on Nov. 10, 2001)

OFPbugs

Nov 9 2001, 22:56

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha i had you pegged all along huh hahahahahahahahhaahha http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Nov 9 2001, 23:00

Yea! [stupid beavis laugh]hehehehe...hehehehehe...huhuhuhuhuh....[/stupid beavis laugh] :biggrin:

The Blind Sniper

Nov 11 2001, 11:04

If you wanna bomb use the bombs on the resistance plane

Die Alive

Nov 11 2001, 15:10

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from The Blind Sniper on 2:04 pm on Nov. 11, 2001
If you wanna bomb use the bombs on the resistance plane[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>Nah, I'll just wait for the new A-10 bomber to come out with 1.30

-=Die Alive=-

The Blind Sniper

Nov 11 2001, 15:31

Thats fun too

Personally I think the resistance plane is more fun

I bombed a hind while it was flying.. dive bombed at it and pulled up at the last second, blowing it out of the sky... laff

Black Op

Nov 11 2001, 16:07

RedStorm got flamed by a junior n00b member

:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

Ruskie

Nov 11 2001, 16:56

:biggrin: a dumbass noob as well

(waits for the predictable, laughable ''you don't have a life'' 'insults')

The Jub Jub Bird

Nov 11 2001, 20:01

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from The Blind Sniper on 1:04 pm on Nov. 11, 2001
If you wanna bomb use the bombs on the resistance plane
[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

...mmm...what resistance plane would that be?...

Remy

Nov 12 2001, 03:40

i love reading my thread....
it give me an insperation to do another one....
but i will wait tell eveyone is done replying to this thread then i will make another one....
is that ok with you?http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif and if it isn't i don't give d*amn...
hehehehehehe

Oversoul

Nov 12 2001, 07:45

oh please Remy not again

9 pages? sheesh...

Die Alive

Nov 13 2001, 14:24

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Remy on 10:40 pm on Nov. 11, 2001
i love reading my thread....
it give me an insperation to do another one....
but i will wait tell eveyone is done replying to this thread then i will make another one....
is that ok with you?http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif and if it isn't i don't give d*amn...
hehehehehehe [/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'> But I think that since there's the LGB A-10 Bomber in 1.30, it's more or less a non-issue now. ***Sure some of you still want those F-16 jets or B-52 carpet bombers, but this A-10 bomber is more or less all I wanted. ***

-=Die Alive=-

Remy

Nov 13 2001, 16:30

I just want the last word

The Jub Jub Bird

Nov 13 2001, 20:37

Remy, I have never known anybody to be so proud of his thread before. Its just a descussion on a games forum!

...besides I've seen 15 pagers before. Not that it matters.

Thehamster

Nov 13 2001, 20:42

I have seen over 40 pages on how to make a bowl of cereal the off topics biggest ever achievement. Now that was big probaly the biggest thread ever on the forums.

The Jub Jub Bird

Nov 13 2001, 20:57

Impressive.

Nov 13 2001, 22:06

Yea, and I made it! http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif And I'll bump it up tonight again for all of you who want to see it and ask my autograph on it :biggrin:

Slick

Nov 14 2001, 01:27

you didn't make s**t redstorm.

you got dissed Cris Rock meets Eddy Murphy style
and you still keep posting.

And you still live with your mom ... how weak man.

Slick

Nov 14 2001, 01:33

Remember you said i wouldn't get my bomber http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

30 days later I got it hahahahahahaha. and it's an official add on.

by the way do you ever have time to play Flashpoint
because when you make so many post's you hardly have anytime playing the game.

Nov 14 2001, 13:48

That A10 isn't a bomber, it's a ground assault aicraft. A bomber has the ability to carpet bomb cities. And when I was posting all these messages, I already knew that there would be an A10 with bombs. So did the rest of the community. You're the exception.

Nov 14 2001, 13:49

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Slick on 4:27 am on Nov. 14, 2001
you didn't make s**t redstorm.

you got dissed Cris Rock meets Eddy Murphy style
and you still keep posting.

And you still live with your mom ... how weak man.
[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

Oh, you want to say you've never lived with your mom? You must be a street kid then...that figures...

Slick

Nov 14 2001, 14:20

you can also live with you dad or in your case youre uncle_dad you stupid inbread.

i bet you have 6 fingers on every hand

Remy

Nov 14 2001, 17:56

d*amn right im proud about my thread. I never got such a reply on one topic in my life. and that im very proud of.

Miles

Nov 14 2001, 20:07

hi im new here but not on the flaspoin1985.co.uk forums

I am against the use of bombers in the game-they would be impossible to control, aim, take off etc.

Also ofp is meant to be realistic, so by saying 'oh but we can make the bombs less powerful' destroys the point of the game

....but this doesnt mean that we cant have bombing runs because there are plenty of scripts to simulate this.

one last point, this is an army simulator, not air force. Bombers are flown by the airforce.

Thehamster

Nov 14 2001, 21:27

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from RedStorm on 10:06 pm on Nov. 13, 2001
Yea, and I made it! http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif And I'll bump it up tonight again for all of you who want to see it and ask my autograph on it :biggrin:
[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

you did't make it. It was made by the hrad workers off the offtopic forum. :biggrin:

Bergmania

Nov 14 2001, 23:03

Bombers like any other flying craft can't hold ground, thats why we still have tanks and grunts.

Die Alive

Nov 15 2001, 13:46

I just found this thread on page 3 of the Addons Forum. Guess it was trying to get away from us.

-=Die Alive=-

Remy

Nov 15 2001, 15:29

Well if you want to make this game realalistic (spelling?) then make the maps bigger..... then you can add bombers.

I just wanted to know what do you guys think about 1.30??

Die Alive

Nov 15 2001, 18:10

I like 1.30, anytime we get more units, "bug fixes" (even though new bugs appeared after 1.3, but at least BIS is trying), and new missions, I don't see how it could hurt the game (unless the bugs are let loose to take over the game).

The A-10 bomber, I like it, it's something that I wanted. ***I was hopping for a variety of ordinance, such as cluster bombs or even napalm?. ***The new A-10 is alot more dangerous than the unofficial addon bomber that uses high-drag bombs, that fall slower to the earth than these new smart bombs. ***High drag, or fin retarded bombs are used when bombing at low level, this way the bomb hits it's mark alot later and it gives the aircraft a chance to get away from the bomb explosion. ***I've seen a couple new AI controlled A-10 bombers blow them selves up when bombing at very low altitude, and I've done it a couple times myself at the begining. ***It would be nice if the new A-10s flew a lot higher, maybe at an altitude of 100 to 150 when bombing, then lower for straffing runs (which I've never seen any of these new bombers do, I've get a bomber to drop all it's bombs on a target, then I want it to strafe it, but it only fltys over the target).

As for the OH-58 Kiowa, I'd like it, but I think it's not used the way it's supposed to be used in the game. ***The laser designator on top of the rotars should be the only thing exposed to the enemy when being targeted by the laser designator. ***The rest of the helicoptor should be hovering behind cover, such as behind a hill/ridge, or behind trees. ***It's alot harder to fly and have the gunner designate the target while moving. *** Also I'd would of like to see some WP marking rockets on the Kiowa. ***I know, That's why there's the laser designator, but it would be cool to have other helicoptors, (especially in MP) to see where exactly you need the ordinance put, and with only 14 rockets, you go through them pretty fast. ***If they were WP marking rockets (they'e hit, and explode in a ball of smoke, someting like a smoke grenade, but larger), then I could just place one rocket and get a cobra or AH-64 to "hit my smoke." ***Just a thought.

-=Die Alive=-

The Jub Jub Bird

Nov 15 2001, 19:43

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Slick on 3:27 am on Nov. 14, 2001
you didn't make s**t redstorm.

you got dissed Cris Rock meets Eddy Murphy style
and you still keep posting.

And you still live with your mom ... how weak man.
[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

What is up your ass man! Dude! All I ever read from you on this forum is abuse to other users! What is the point, its so weak! Try doing something constructive for the community like try your effrots at creating new missions or addons.

And so what if Redstorm still lives with his parents, he is only 16, I am sure you did when you were his age, unless you are some homeless street kid or fool who left school early.

And Slick...everybody knew there was going to be a A-10 with bombs well before this topic started. The thing is that not a bomber. What people have been standing against in this thread is bombers (eg B-52s) and tactical bombers (eg F-16). You fool. BIS didn't include it because of this thread.

(Edited by The Jub Jub Bird at 9:49 pm on Nov. 15, 2001)

The Jub Jub Bird

Nov 15 2001, 19:47

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Slick on 4:20 pm on Nov. 14, 2001
you can also live with you ***dad or in your case youre uncle_dad you stupid inbread.

i bet you have 6 fingers on every hand
[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

What the f**k! I think what he meant was when he said he lived with his mum, was that he was just a school kid and he still lives at home with his parents. So you live with your dad huh?

Whos the stupid inbread again?

Die Alive

Nov 15 2001, 22:23

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from The Jub Jub Bird on 2:43 pm on Nov. 15, 2001
BIS didn't include it because of this thread.
[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>I don't think they didn't include those aircrafts because of this thread, I think they didn't include them for the obvious reasons, ie: poor flight physics, small maps, short runways, etc... ***I'd would of been surprised if they did add a F-16 or any other jet aircraft, the game isn't ready for one yet, and possibly won't ever be ready for one. ***All I wanted was a slow moving plane to drop bombs from, not a jet that's I'd whiz by the soldier at 12 o'clock and when turning around to attack again, ram into a mountain or a tree.

-=Die Alive=-

Slick

Nov 15 2001, 22:43

The Jub Jub Bird

you ass licking ####### I would really like to meet you in real life you spineless piece of s**t.

I would put A knife right in your eye chicken s**t big mouth.

you wouldn't be talking like that if standing in front of me.

how many missions have you made anyway ?? I didnt see em. I bet you dont even have the legal version of the game.
I do ....... wanne touch me ?

Slick

Nov 15 2001, 23:56

Jub Jub Bird

It's nice too see that you are helping your boyfriend
Redstorm.

We should be supporting gay couples like you and redstorm more on these forums...

it's toughf being gay and a ####### at the same time wilst your uncle-dad is humping your bum these days.

so keep up the good work girls..... ehh I mean Boys.. I guess

fixOPFsoundsplease

Nov 16 2001, 03:03

Bomber are a mint idea ; All your base are belong to us.

fixOPFsoundsplease

Nov 16 2001, 03:08

Heya Slick.

Lifes too short to waste time on anyone but ones self.

Go light a candle and watch the sunset fade bro!

(Edited by fixOPFsoundsplease at 6:10 am on Nov. 16, 2001)

(Edited by fixOPFsoundsplease at 6:14 am on Nov. 16, 2001)

Slick

Nov 16 2001, 11:21

Okay cool thought..... but can my girlfriend join me ?

I love to waste time with her. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

fixOPFsoundsplease

Nov 16 2001, 12:28

Your girl is yourself.... you are getting something from her!

These people you dont get along with are obviously not a part of your life, so dont make them a part by attacking them...you know.

(Edited by fixOPFsoundsplease at 3:38 pm on Nov. 16, 2001)

Remy

Nov 16 2001, 15:38

Hey.... what up. AHAHHAHAHHAHA i love the way this thread is going. i love to read your argument.. i never new that a thread on a bomber or telling people how 1.30 is could get so violent. And die alive thank you for you inpute on 1.30.

so if anyone else would like to comment on 1.30 or bombers(or feel like you have to get something off your chest like some of you do.) then go right ahead.

Nov 16 2001, 22:58

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Slick on 2:56 am on Nov. 16, 2001
Jub Jub Bird

It's nice too see that you are helping your boyfriend
Redstorm.

We should be supporting gay couples like you and redstorm more on these forums...

it's toughf being gay and a ####### at the same time wilst your uncle-dad is humping your bum these days.

so keep up the good work girls..... ehh I mean Boys.. I guess
[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

http://www.ofpeditingcenter.com/YaBB/YaBBImages/iamwithstupid.gif

Nov 16 2001, 23:06

Oh yeah, and furthermore: http://contrabandent.com/pez/contrib/geno/asshole2.gifhttp://www.ofpeditingcenter.com/YaBB/YaBBImages/smilie20.gifhttp://www.ofpeditingcenter.com/YaBB/YaBBImages/2up.gifhttp://www.ofpeditingcenter.com/YaBB/YaBBImages/flipa.gifhttp://www.ofpeditingcenter.com/YaBB/YaBBImages/fecku.gif

(Edited by RedStorm at 1:10 pm on Nov. 17, 2001)

Nov 16 2001, 23:07

me --->http://www.ofpeditingcenter.com/YaBB/YaBBImages/gunman.gifhttp://www.ofpeditingcenter.com/YaBB/YaBBImages/gamefreak.gif<--- you

Die Alive

Nov 17 2001, 01:37

Never a dull moment in this thread...

-=Die Alive=-

Aaron Kane

Nov 17 2001, 03:10

Hey! Dont make me come in there! Keep it down, you're making the other topics cry!

Remy

Nov 17 2001, 05:12

d*amn right i love this thread. d*amn all this from a bomber. And read storm i don't belive in you ideas of haven no bomber but that you for your feelings towarads (spelling?) this guy i got a good laugh out it.

Nov 17 2001, 08:14

No, actually I just wanted to test my new smilies.

The Jub Jub Bird

Nov 17 2001, 14:18

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Die Alive on 12:23 am on Nov. 16, 2001
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from The Jub Jub Bird on 2:43 pm on Nov. 15, 2001
BIS didn't include it because of this thread.
[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>I don't think they didn't include those aircrafts because of this thread, I think they didn't include them for the obvious reasons, ie: poor flight physics, small maps, short runways, etc... ***I'd would of been surprised if they did add a F-16 or any other jet aircraft, the game isn't ready for one yet, and possibly won't ever be ready for one. ***All I wanted was a slow moving plane to drop bombs from, not a jet that's I'd whiz by the soldier at 12 o'clock and when turning around to attack again, ram into a mountain or a tree.

-=Die Alive=-
[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

No, you misread. I meant they didn't include the LGB A-10 becasue the thread asked for a bomber.

The Jub Jub Bird

Nov 17 2001, 14:42

Slick you are such a d**k
! What is it worth being so God d*amned abusive?! Its serves no purpose but to make you look like a complete twat!

The only reason you are having a go at me now is becasue I have made valid points before that you can't stand up to.

Chill out man seriously, all the stress will give you a stomach ulcer or something. ***

You remind me of an abusive school kid, bully style, like talking the talk. You know what I mean? Talking all tough and offensive, but only digging himself further into the dirt. I fact, thinking of it that way I rekon you probably are just a kid. Probably just some greasy geek who needs to vent some anger on the net, because its the only place he can do it without getting the absolute s**t kicked into him.

Stop being such an #######, get a life, chill out a bit, and live life to the max...ok? Or of course you could keep being an ####### and we'll all laugh at you a little more, you are quite funny.

Oh and by the way I do have a legal version of the game (you have to you dumbass due to FADE) and I have made plenty of missions (my campaign will be out when its done) and the addons are coming along nicely (one at OFPEC, more to come in time). So it might serve you to think and research abit before you open your gob in the future.

No doubt you are going to reply with some more pointless and offensive, probably threating wrods again. But if I were you I'd keep shut, your only moving yourslef one step closer to being banned and making yourselve look like a complete...what's the correct phrase...d**k
head.

(Edited by The Jub Jub Bird at 4:44 pm on Nov. 17, 2001)

Nov 17 2001, 14:51

Better not reply to thig guy anymore Jub Jub, it;s no use he wont listen to us anyway.

The Jub Jub Bird

Nov 17 2001, 15:04

But its soooo d*amned tempting. And how do I do those cool emoticons? They look like the ones from the Operation Flashpoint Editing Center forum. Could you message me?

Die Alive

Nov 17 2001, 15:27

Smiley Face thread here in Off Topic (http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/topic.cgi?forum=12&topic=820) ***I really like Stealt Eagle's smilies http://www.ofpeditingcenter.com/YaBB/YaBBImages/kiss.gif

-=Die Alive=-

The Jub Jub Bird

Nov 17 2001, 15:37

Cheers DA... :biggrin:

Cyberdwarf

Nov 17 2001, 23:17

I've made my views clear on aircraft before.
"No" to bombers or F14s.
I flew a Su25 up to over 40,000 feet yesterday (wow) but what was the point. All I could see were clouds and I was off the map. So, what purpose is there in having a bomber?
Keep this thread going. I find it amusing reading rantings from kids who think its tough to swear and call everything they can't argue against as gay.

Nov 18 2001, 08:26

lol, :biggrin: btw, if you fly your plane over 500.000 meters high, you pass the third layer of clouds :biggrin: the first is at 10.000, the second at 250.000 and the third at 500.000. I never got any higher though http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

Slick

Nov 18 2001, 10:37

The Jub Jub Bird

you should get a life your the one with a million posts

(Edited by Slick at 2:15 pm on Nov. 18, 2001)

ran

Nov 18 2001, 10:51

delete him from the forum

Slick

Nov 18 2001, 11:15

delete him from the forum !!!

Slick

Nov 18 2001, 11:18

what's the matter ran your eyes hurt http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

Nov 18 2001, 11:22

Why can't we all just....get along! :biggrin:

Slick

Nov 18 2001, 11:32

Okay http://www.abcme.com/imagesredone1/049pclr.gif

http://www.abcme.com/imagesredone1/001peacetwist.gif

ran

Nov 18 2001, 12:26

my eyes don't hurt , but there are some limits , don't forget , these pics can hurt the sensibility of some young people , there's not only old teenagers on this forum
personnaly ,,if i want to watch some porns or things like that i go on special sites , i think THE pic didn't have aynthing to do here

Slick

Nov 18 2001, 13:22

what is your age dude ?? 40 ... 50 maybe huh.

go play some cards with your senior friends at the retirement home.

Cane

Nov 18 2001, 13:28

Yeah, great total thermo-nuclear destruction of an entire islands with one shot. or just throwing about 250 bombs at once. it's madness

ran

Nov 18 2001, 13:32

slick , i'm 35 years old , have you ever heard of the word "law" ?
some LAW say that you can't place special pictures , text , or anything else in public places

ran

Nov 18 2001, 13:34

and i think you've found this pic after many long nights on your favourite bookmarked sites , it was very difficult for you i think , to find the good pic , but it was the occasion to have personnal pleisure

The Jub Jub Bird

Nov 18 2001, 13:44

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Slick on 12:37 pm on Nov. 18, 2001
The Jub Jub Bird

you should get a life your the one with a million posts

(Edited by Slick at 2:15 pm on Nov. 18, 2001)
[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

No Slick, I don't have a million posts. I have about 700 carefully thought out and decent posts designed to help others and make usefull comments. Except this one...what am I doing replying to this jerk?

The Jub Jub Bird

Nov 18 2001, 13:44

bloody double posts - please ignore this.

(Edited by The Jub Jub Bird at 3:46 pm on Nov. 18, 2001)

Die Alive

Nov 18 2001, 15:55

"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here. This is the war room." *** Dr. Strangelove

-=Die Alive=-

Slick

Nov 18 2001, 16:25

700 !!!!!!! jezus christ !!!!!!

where do you get the time dude http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif?

oh yeah Ran ........ f**k the law http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif you old fart

Slick

Nov 18 2001, 17:16

Jub jub's mother & ran on the opf forum

http://home.wanadoo.nl/funniest/computers/chatter.jpg

The Jub Jub Bird

Nov 18 2001, 18:30

As funny as that picture is that is an insult to my mother. To which I feel obliged to tell to go f**k yourself.
And slick, never f**k the law.

Peace man, out.

Slick

Nov 18 2001, 20:13

The law sucks

Look I'am not an American so I dont care for your stupid laws over there.

Every state has it's on law pfff what's up with that huh?

You can buy an carry a gun in texas but you cant drink alcohol till your 21.

you can sew people for milions of dollars because they serve coffee that is to hot.
bunch of stupid double moral assholes

In my country I can do everytghing I want on the internet except post child porn.

so if your country forbids you to post stuff that's your problem.

(Edited by Slick at 11:17 pm on Nov. 18, 2001)

Remy

Nov 19 2001, 00:28

d*amn MAN!!! You guys have got to keep this thread going. It has some of the most funny sh-it in it ever, slick love the picture. And d*amn i never new some of you were so old. 35 years old..... d*amn!!!!! well keep up the work guys i will look at this again tommorow when i turn on my computer again.

BlindDeath

Nov 19 2001, 00:39

Jesus Christ stop posting on this TOPIC!!!

make a new one in OFFTOPIC so no one will read it!

Remy

Nov 19 2001, 17:00

I agree with the angree man.

Nov 19 2001, 17:06

This thread has lost it's funnyness (I'd like to see a huge bomber as soon as the Islands get like, 20 times as big as they are now). Now this thread is just a mixure of gay, threats, angry people and me.

The Jub Jub Bird

Nov 19 2001, 17:23

totally, I said all I wanted to say, it may not have been popualr but the arguements have been expressed. I am going to leave this thread be now, its long lost its amusement.

Nov 19 2001, 17:54

Agreed.

Black Op

Nov 19 2001, 17:57

Agreed

Die Alive

Nov 19 2001, 18:55

This thread started on Oct. 25, 2001 at 10:57 am. ***Let's keep it alive so we could sing it a one month birthday song! Then after we could take this thread into the back yard and put a bullet into it's head.

-=Die Alive=-

Slick

Nov 19 2001, 19:41

look Redstorm your Mother & Uncle dad

http://home.wanadoo.nl/funniest/sexcartoons/old_3.jpg

Remy

Nov 19 2001, 22:49

d*amn I DIDN'T KNOW IT ALMOST MY THREAD BIRTHDAY. I CANT WAIT TELL IT IS!!!!

Hasharajima

Nov 19 2001, 23:38

man, this is no more fun. Happy Birthday

Remy

Nov 20 2001, 15:18

Thank you!!!!

Shabadu

Nov 20 2001, 15:25

Why is it that those funless people who don't want to see interesting additions (such as the bomber or new firearms) want to spoil it for the rest of us. They moan that these shouldn't be added because they wouldn't like it. What about those that would? Don't spoil it by making BIS or whoever think it would be unpopular to add these units. Keep your miserable wys to yourselves. ITS ONLY A GAME!

Nov 20 2001, 16:48

Why is it that people like you always want to spoil the fun for the players who play the game seriously and not on a l337 CS way?

Gilroyg2001

Nov 20 2001, 18:01

Stop asking for bombers, BIS included one in v1.30, now we got what we wanted so lets just leave them alone.

Slick

Nov 20 2001, 18:55

Redstorm you know what your problem is?

you've got your head up your ass !!

http://home.wanadoo.nl/funniest/shockin/proble1.jpg

chuanren

Nov 21 2001, 01:51

errrr..........

Die Alive

Nov 21 2001, 15:47

5 more days to this thread's birthday. ***Remy, you should start sending out invitations to all that participated to it (Redstorm, Slick, Jub Jub Bird etc) so we can gather around a birthday cake and remember about all the fun times we had on it.

-=Die Alive=-

(Edited by Die Alive at 10:48 am on Nov. 21, 2001)

Remy

Nov 21 2001, 16:43

OK... everyone that has poasted on this thread is invited to my threads b-day... so come and enjoy the party!!!! =)

fixOPFsoundsplease

Nov 22 2001, 01:12

Okay cya at the condo - party ppl in th'house

Die Alive

Nov 22 2001, 12:47

I'll bring a Keg-o-beer http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif ***http://www.ofpeditingcenter.com/YaBB/YaBBImages/cheers.gif

-=Die Alive=-

Shabadu

Nov 22 2001, 13:29

How is it spoiling it for those who play it seriously(which I do also love the campaign mode) just to have some extra units added? You don't have to use them just because they're there. I don't usualy include the LST(usually because it doesn't work) and that's in the game.

Remy

Nov 22 2001, 15:26

If there is any one who has a problem with the thread.... go f**k your self. this thread will be closed in 4 days. so only talk about happy stuff. or if you feel like you really have to then you can talk about flashpoint then make it a good one...
well i hope to see you all there at the party =)

Die Alive

Nov 25 2001, 14:22

<span style='font-size:15pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:red'><span style='font-family:arial'>H</span><span style='color:blue'>A</span><span style='color:green'>P</span><span style='color:yellow'>P</span><span style='color:orange'>Y</span> <span style='color:pink'>B</span><span style='color:purple'>I</span><span style='color:black'>R</span><span style='color:green'>T</span><span style='color:blue'>H</span><span style='color:red'>D</span><span style='color:yellow'>A</span><span style='color:pink'>Y</span><span style='color:black'>!</span></span>[/color]</span>
Now hurry up and get this thread executed.

-=Die Alive=-

Remy

Nov 26 2001, 16:44

YYYYAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

This form is closed.

Die Alive

Nov 26 2001, 18:02

I'll write one of the moderator and ask him to close this thread, or better yet, ask him to delete it for good.

One day this thread will end.

-=Die Alive=-

Nov 26 2001, 18:56

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Remy on 7:43 pm on Nov. 21, 2001
OK... everyone that has poasted on this thread is invited to my threads b-day... so come and enjoy the party!!!! =)
[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

I'll walk the way you just showed me. That should be funny...

Remy

Nov 27 2001, 16:04

Heres the deal. I will not reply to this thread if no one else reply to it anymore. All i want is to be the last person on this thread, since im the one who started it. so let this thread die out and don't reply to it.... or this thread will never die i can promise that.

Remy

Nov 27 2001, 16:16

Nov 27 2001, 16:38

ok :biggrin:

Remy

Nov 29 2001, 17:36

d*amn right ok......

don't reply to this any, don't even say ok.....
ok???

BlindDeath

Nov 29 2001, 22:37

alright

quakergamer

Nov 29 2001, 23:10

DoubleTap5thSFG

Nov 30 2001, 06:16

I want to see one of those Daisy Cutters, plink it out the back of a C-130 and never look back. I been watching outbreak alot lately =)

Die Alive

Nov 30 2001, 13:03

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from DoubleTap5thSFG on 1:16 am on Nov. 30, 2001
I want to see one of those Daisy Cutters, plink it out the ***back of a C-130 and never look back. I been watching outbreak alot lately =)[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>Like the one I posted on page 2 of this thread?

-=Die Alive=-

DoubleTap5thSFG

Nov 30 2001, 15:37

thats the one

Eviscerator

Dec 1 2001, 02:09

ok i only read the first 6 pages so i dont know if this has already been said, but if there were bombers wouldnt there have to be interceptors? and then bomber escorts

Remy

Dec 2 2001, 23:57

god d*amn.... it doesnt have to be that realalisitic...

they aready have a bomber but you have to be d*amn low to the ground for it to be affective. so you don't need f**king escorts and that all that other bull sh.it

Die Alive

Dec 3 2001, 01:05

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Eviscerator on 5:09 am on Dec. 1, 2001
ok i only read the first 6 pages so i dont know if this has already been said, but if there were bombers wouldnt there have to be interceptors? and then bomber escorts[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'> OK, this is where the ground air defence comes to play. ***Right now, it's lacking almost everything. ***Yes the vulcan and shilka are ADA, but it's not real enough. ***I'd like to see some more stationary AA guns sites, maybe another mobile one for the russians (since the US has so much more aircraft).

Now you might want to see fighter/interceptors in the game. ***It's not necessary if there's enough ground based anti-aircraft weapons. ***Take for example the Vietnam war. ***The US had the overwhelming air-superiority. ***How many US aircraft got shot down? ***Over 3000 from combat, and around 300 from operational accidents. ***Losses from Migs were 76. ***The US lost aircraft to all sorts of AA guns and SAMs, but mostly AA guns.

I'm not in favor of adding large scale SAM sites, they'd cover the whole island and would control the skies unfarely. ***I'd like to see more AA guns, just to make stuff more interesting than these shilkas and vulcans. ***But's it's up to the mission makers to make the sides ballanced. ***If bombers were added, and one side had bombers, then the other side should have alot more AA guns to shoot them down. ***If one side has all the firepower, then yes, the game will be more or less unfairly one-sided.

-=Die Alive=-