Confusion regarding the "Reinforcements" DVD rom

[Stefos71]

Hi all,

I've bought Arma II: CO and I've downloaded the British Forces & Private Military Company DLC's.

My question: Is the "Reinforcements" standalone the BAF & PMC DLC's together as one OR is this a new game which expands on the BAF & PMC Downloadable content for Arma II?

Thanks everyone...:yay: Crazy Banana

[Leon86]

reinforcements=baf+pmc

[Stefos71]

@<hidden>,

Essentially it's just the 2 DLC's on disc? Why?

Weird, especially when you could only get them via Steam.

Thanks, I think........

[Steakslim]

Because a lot of people wanted a hardcopy.

[shezan74]

i still have some doubts... if you read marek words here: http://www.arma2.com/latest-news/arma-2-reinforcements-retail-news_en.html it seems that the package will be standalone...

[DM]

Jay smells

[.kju [PvPscene]]

It is said to be some form of OA lite + (full) BAF and PMC DLC.
I suspect it means it does not contain the SP content of OA like the campaign and missions.
It should be compatible to OA just fine in MP.

That said a CO lite + DLC or DLC only pack would have sounded more appealing to me.
A2R will introduce again the MP issues vs CO play..

[RoyaltyinExile]

Its just the DLCs on DVD.
Why must everyone always read more than is actually quoted?



Why can't trolls read what is actually quoted (http://www.arma2.com/latest-news/arma-2-reinforcements-retail-news_en.html)? :p



We´re always trying to deliver something more and here it is, new campaigns, dozens of units all completely standalone to be played solo or to be combined with our other great military simulators into one ultimate pack.



Best,
RiE

[Moricky]

Its just the DLCs on DVD.

Whats so hard to understand about that?
Why must everyone always read more than is actually quoted?

What part of the following statement did you not understand? :P

Standalone expansion to the original Arma 2.
http://www.bistudio.com/index.php/english/games/arma-2-series/reinforcements

[DM]

Shouldn't you two be fixing bugs rather than playing with the trolls? :cool:


So we'll get the DLC's + some exe version on disk. I'm assuming that anyone who already owns OA can use the disk version to install just the DLC?

But you probably wont answer that, because you're not interested in actually being useful :P

[vohk]

Don't mean to be a tool, but if there is one thing BI has some serious issues with it's communication. For example, I can't count the number of times I've had to explain 'Combined Operations' to people because the proper explanation really isn't readily available.

I've read plenty of posts about Reinforcements, including that release, and my understanding was that it was just the DLCs, no additional content. That quote (Marek Španěl's) could mean it's a way to run the DLCs standalone (without OA), that it includes OA, or some combination of the above + content that hasn't been released at all. I realize that it isn't out yet, but providing more comprehensive explanations would prevent a lot of the misinformation.

[Beagle]

The DLC campaigns are not working without "Operation Arrohead" content that means it must be in the package as a standalone without a campaign is not really a game at all.

[Flattermann]

yeah you probably get standard arma2+oa kit with low-res textures just like baf+pmc if you haven't bought it ^^

[pettka]

The DLC campaigns are not working without "Operation Arrohead" content that means it must be in the package as a standalone without a campaign is not really a game at all.

Imagine You don't have A2 nor OA. You buy Reinfercements. Its standalone, that means you are able to play both campaigns and missions (BAF and PMC) from it even without buying A2 or OA. I hope its clear now :icon_twisted:

[Undeceived]

Yes, it is. :) Thanks!

[twisted1in7]

Will ARMA 2: Reinforcements come with the previous ARMA 2 base (like combined ops does) or the Arrowhead Expansion?

I have ARMA 2 already and I want to get Arrrowhead, PMC and BAF. Should I just buy combined ops and then PMC and BAF? Don't want to make a huge investment and then find out that everything previous comes with the Reinforcements Standalone Expansion.

Also there is mention of improvements to the game engine in Arma 2: Reinforcements. Will these same engine improvements be released for ARMA2 (original game) and also for Combined Operations with a downloadable patch or update?

Thank you.

[Smurf]

Reinforcements = BAF + PMC only.
You will need Arrowhead to run them.

[PuFu]

reinforcements includes only the DLC content for Operation Arrowhead.
If you already own ArmA2, then you don't need to buy CO, just OA and the DLC.

If you have Steam A2, i suggest you get OA the same way. For instance if you have retail|DVD A2 version, you can get the OA retail, or via sprocket (i have A2 on dvd and OA + PMC + BAF from sprocket, and was able to combine A2+OA when i installed )

[Concurssi]

No, you don't need OA for Reinforcements. It's standalone.

[chicago]

Will ARMA 2: Reinforcements come with the previous ARMA 2 base (like combined ops does) or the Arrowhead Expansion?

I have ARMA 2 already and I want to get Arrrowhead, PMC and BAF. Should I just buy combined ops and then PMC and BAF? Don't want to make a huge investment and then find out that everything previous comes with the Reinforcements Standalone Expansion.

Also there is mention of improvements to the game engine in Arma 2: Reinforcements. Will these same engine improvements be released for ARMA2 (original game) and also for Combined Operations with a downloadable patch or update?

Thank you.

I read somewhere that ARMA 2: Reinforcements will include Arrowhead (little version), BAF and PMC.

The improvements are usually released in the updates. But Arrowhead has new improvements than ARMA 2 (original game). As example new units, functions, equipments, etc.

[Concurssi]

Reinforcements only comes with BAF and PMC. OA is not included.

I strongly suggest you also buy OA though.

[Lonestar]

http://www.bistudio.com/index.php/english/games/arma-2-series/reinforcements


Standalone expansion to the original Arma 2.

[twisted1in7]

Hi Lonestar! I had assumed that "Standalone" meant that it could be installed and played with no previous Bohemia Interactive software on your system. Which then led to my other questions.

[.kju [PvPscene]]

http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?t=116039

It is BAF+PMC+OA "lite" (probably means no SP content of OA).

[Concurssi]

What other content did OA have besides SP content?

[twisted1in7]

What part of the following statement did you not understand? :P

Quote:Originally Posted by Official web
Standalone expansion to the original Arma 2.

http://www.bistudio.com/index.php/english/games/arma-2-series/reinforcements

Just that the words "Standalone" and "Expansion" mean 2 different things. "Standalone" implies that is runs without any other Bohemia Interactive software required (i.e. previous versions) and "Expansion" implies that it expands on the functionality of a previously installed version of ARMA 2.

[twisted1in7]

Can someone from Bohemia Interactive please chime in on this thread?

The confusion stems from the wording of the pre-release annoucements because "Standalone" implies that is runs without any other Bohemia Interactive software required (i.e. previous versions) and "Expansion" implies that it expands on the functionality of a previously installed version of ARMA 2.

Which then leads to the question: how would a standalone version run without the original ARMA2 or Operation Arrowhead game included?

Which then leads to the question: if Reinforcements contains an updated engine and does not contain the original ARMA2 or Operation Arrowhead then what exactly is that engine and will previous versions of ARMA2 receive that updated engine as well?

[Concurssi]

OA is a standalone expansion. Reinforcements works the same way.

[Jezuro]

Can someone from Bohemia Interactive please chime in on this thread?
There is one like this already... http://forums.bistudio.com/showpost.php?p=1874615&postcount=14

[Flattermann]

There are no single "Standalones" or single "Expansions" for this game. OA was a "Standalone Expansion", meaning it adds content to ArmA2 (creating a new "game" called Combined Operations) but can also be installed without owning ArmA2. There is only one engine - ArmA2 has recently been patched to 1.09, there is a OA 1.59 patch underway, probably being released simultaneoulsy with Reinforcements.

It works standalone and uses the same engine as OA / CO. There is no information available whether it will contain a Lite version of ArmA2:CO content. If Reinforcements is the only version of the game you own, then you will probably not be able to play on most MP servers (unless there is Lite content).

[Moricky]

And it does both. If you're owner of Operation Arrowhead, it will expand it; if you're not, you'll get completely new game without need to buy anything else. Standalone expansion ;)

BTW: Operation Arrowhead was standalone expansion as well.

[RoyaltyinExile]

We should totally have gone with expandalone... whatever sexual undertones that expression may or may not have. :cool:

/usefulinput

RiE

[stk2008]

"expandalone"

Hehehe nice.

And any ways I all ready have BAF VIA Sprocket but I want BAF and PMC on disk and will get it in 8 days time now in the UK :)

[Beagle]

We should totally have gone with expandalone... whatever sexual undertones that expression may or may not have. :cool:

/usefulinput

RiEI think the main confusion and the main question is...does Reinforcements contain the full OA content or not...last time I checked both campaigns had OA units in it. So it must be OA+BAF+PMC or it can't work right or BI made fully new campaigns or only deliver the AO units needed for campaigns to work..or use the "light" approach.

I think this points in question make the confusion, not the term standalone addon.

Is this a repackage of OA including PMC and BAF or not?
Is there anything new in it for users of OA+BAF+PMC?

[twisted1in7]

There are no single "Standalones" or single "Expansions" for this game. OA was a "Standalone Expansion", meaning it adds content to ArmA2 (creating a new "game" called Combined Operations) but can also be installed without owning ArmA2. There is only one engine - ArmA2 has recently been patched to 1.09, there is a OA 1.59 patch underway, probably being released simultaneoulsy with Reinforcements.

It works standalone and uses the same engine as OA / CO. There is no information available whether it will contain a Lite version of ArmA2:CO content. If Reinforcements is the only version of the game you own, then you will probably not be able to play on most MP servers (unless there is Lite content).

Thanks everyone for your replies!

Special thanks to Flattermann for the thorough response!

Time to purchase Combined Ops, which is only $5 more than Arrowhead alone and then get the DLC equal to reinforcements. I'm hoping Combined Ops will go on sale soon as we approach the Reinforcements launch date.

[Concurssi]

Why buy the DLC equal to reinforcements? Isn't Reinforcements cheaper by itself?

[twisted1in7]

Why buy the DLC equal to reinforcements? Isn't Reinforcements cheaper by itself?

I think the DLC for BAF and PMC adds up to $20 on Steam. I'm not sure what the launch price will be for Reinforcements standalone. I guess I should wait to see.

[Thats_Life 2.0]

I will buy it: But there need to be more landvehicles. There are three :confused:

[Undeceived]

The devs said that you don't need A2 nor A2OA to play Arma 2: Reinforcements. Do you think that even so the RFT-campaigns won't work? :rolleyes: Why is this so confusing for some people?

Read this: http://forums.bistudio.com/showpost.php?p=1874615&postcount=14
This: http://forums.bistudio.com/showpost.php?p=1881711&postcount=17
And this (the yellow part): http://www.arma2.com/rft

...and you're done, the confusion should be removed. :yay:

[.kju [PvPscene]]

A2R is a hard copy (DVD version) for those who don't want to buy DLC.

BI decided to make it standalone (means it must have some/most OA content to work)
rather to put only BAF and PMC on the DVD and make an OA copy a requirement.

[MissionCreep]

For me, Arma2 is about community content. So I wonder how much of the existing OA/BAF/PMC community missions/campaigns will run on this standalone. Probably very few, if any. And how many mod and mission makers will cater specifically to Reinforcements? Also is co-op gameplay restricted to 2 players? Anyway, how many multiplay sites would support the sandalone? For me, these concerns would make me not buy it simply as a standalone (mind you, I already have CO+BAF+PMC, so in reality it is a non-issue). But if you want to get the most out of Community content, for a novice I would recommend CO, plus BAF (if you are a Brit! - or just plain Anglophile) and if you don't mind spending the extra $$, PMC (which I think is the least value for money of the 4 packages).

[Dwarden]

the A2: RFT is PMC full, BAF full and OA full (visual/audio) minus missions&campaigns ...
(it's not exactly OA lite per say)

[Smurf]

Well, should Sticky a thread with all that detailed, will save some time next time.

I didn´t know that.....

[Darkhorse 1-6]

And how many mod and mission makers will cater specifically to Reinforcements?

None that I can think of. Not that many addonmakers really cater specifically to OA these days anyways, and if Reinforcements is even less of OA than OA is, the people who buy it will probably never get to use any of the addons currently available.

[.kju [PvPscene]]

There seems to be no need to cater for A2R in a specific way.
It is said to contain the same units, vehicles, weapons and terrains as OA.

But yeah .. the information about A2R is very much lacking..

[ziiip]

What's the point of not including the OA campaign/missions?:confused:

[Lonestar]

Well, because players who want to enjoy them must buy OA.

Which is more expensive.

[Concurssi]

Did Lord of Destruction include the Diablo II "campaign"?

Did Broodwar include the original Starcraft campaigns?

Did Shivering Isles contain the Oblivion "campaign"?

---------- Post added at 10:47 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:43 AM ----------

Another, more apt comparison:

Did the Guild Wars expansions include the campaigns that came before them?

[twisted1in7]

It seems like the way the these standalone versions of ARMA 2 are being released causes the online community to become fragmented in the games and servers they can play on.

There should probably be some option for original ARMA2 owners to keep adding on to the original ARMA 2 with lower cost addons, rather than offering only these higher priced standalone expansion versions that could end up costing original ARMA 2 owners over $100 to keep current with.

The price for existing customers to upgrade should not be the same as the price for new customers buying fully playable standalone versions.

So how should BIS package ARMA 2 and subsequent expansions so that:

1. The entire ARMA 2 community can play together online
AND
2. The original owners of ARMA 2 are not bearing the highest cost of all players.

[.kju [PvPscene]]

The only reason I can think of the BAF+PMC+OA combo is the prize.

Just BAF+PMC on DVD most likely would be losing bargain for BI - let alone to find
business partners to realize this.
As said before personally I would have voted for BAF+PMC+CO - yet surely there are
some good reasons that made this impossible, like the size leading to two DVDs for example.

My suggestion for the situation at hand would be a CO lite for every OA/A2R user.
So Utes, Chernarus and the missing units, vehicles and weapons to make sure everyone
can play together in MP.

[Dwarden]

It seems like the way the these standalone versions of ARMA 2 are being released causes the online community to become fragmented in the games and servers they can play on.

There should probably be some option for original ARMA2 owners to keep adding on to the original ARMA 2 with lower cost addons, rather than offering only these higher priced standalone expansion versions that could end up costing original ARMA 2 owners over $100 to keep current with.

The price for existing customers to upgrade should not be the same as the price for new customers buying fully playable standalone versions.

So how should BIS package ARMA 2 and subsequent expansions so that:

1. The entire ARMA 2 community can play together online
AND
2. The original owners of ARMA 2 are not bearing the highest cost of all players.


fail, did you noticed it's OA and completely compatible with any other OA (not A2:CO - for that You need A2 content) ?
technically for default content the only fragmentation atm. is
A2, OA (+DLCs by default), A2: CO (+DLCs by default)

as A2 owner You can buy RFT to turn it into A2:CO (+DLCs in Full variant and w/o the OA Campaig/Missions)
as A2 owner You can buy OA and turn it into A2:CO (+DLCs in Lite variant and with the OA Campaign/Missions)

[NoQuarter]

^
Herding cats in your resumé yet?

[Dwarden]

^
Herding cats in your resumé yet?

{looks dumb} i fail to understood really .. :confused:

[twisted1in7]

fail, did you noticed it's OA and completely compatible with any other OA (not A2:CO - for that You need A2 content) ?
technically for default content the only fragmentation atm. is
A2, OA (+DLCs by default), A2: CO (+DLCs by default)

as A2 owner You can buy RFT to turn it into A2:CO (+DLCs in Full variant and w/o the OA Campaig/Missions)
as A2 owner You can buy OA and turn it into A2:CO (+DLCs in Lite variant and with the OA Campaign/Missions)

Hi Dwarden!

Thank you for breaking this down and explaining.

I just want to say right off the top that you guys have created the best game/military sim EVER and I have been a huge fan since the original Operation Flashpoint. Many thanks to the development team for the amazing job they have done in creating this game and supporting this series for so many years.

With respect to the original fragmentation question, I think the easiest way to say it is that a split was formed by creating a separate OA standalone expansion disconnecting these users from the original A2 mutliplayer community. I think an A2:CO only option for new users and a non standalone OA expansion for original A2 users would have held the community together better.

[jblackrupert]

{looks dumb} i fail to understood really .. :confused:

It means trying to do a next to impossible task.

Like trying to get a cat to walk on a leash like a dog.

[Jsmuk]

I am slightly confused by one aspect of this, and I think its been cleared up already but I am still confused.

If I was to purchase this and install it on top of my already existing ArmA2 and OA install would it install the DLC as if I had downloaded it?

Iv been looking at the DLC for a while and this seems to be an ideal way to get it.

[eggbeast]

i was very disappointed when OA came out as a standalone game.

I can see why this could happen in terms of licensing, sales impact, etc and see why BIS would do it.

However I think it's a bit of an amateur distribution strategy that has genuinely impacted on the multiplayer experience in my opinion - we have a lot of gamers who won't get this game because
a) they don't understand what games to buy
b) the patching logic is hard to follow
c) the mod content creates a "hard to connect" online MP experience
d) the steam version is really hard to handle alongside other DLC/ DVD versions
e) different versions are available in different countries
f) there are too many keys/controls to master (and you need a special keyboard)
g) the graphics card/ CPU/ RAM setup is really hard to get right - sometimes a great rig performs awfully on arma, whereas a not so great rig with jus tthe right graphics card is just fine...
h) the AI's we recruit in a mission talk rreeeealllllyyyyy slloooowwwwllllyyyyy liiiikkkkke a deeeeeeeemmmmmoooooooonnnnnnnn taaalkkinnnnnggggg arrrrraaaaammmaaaaaiiiccc.... because we have the low res DLC in game - it RUINS the experience totally (pushing us to buy the content etc - and is just an awful strategy - alienating newcomers who come and look over your shoulder when you're playing, and think "well that sucks") - itappears that anyonewho has the actual bought DLC also gets this when somone without the bought DLC joins the server - i mean that is truly terrible!


if BIS concentrated on harmonising the playing community, making the online experience better, then when they brought out Arma 3 they'd have a growing not dwindling fanbase.

I, for one am a total arma addict and a passionate advocate of the game series. It's just a shame that the distribution strategy compounds the problems with the online experience (which let's face it, keep thegamealive long after the SP campaign is over)

I have 2 gamers in my clan who have recently turned up to play (we play CO) - one has arma 2 DVD and the other has steam OA and they're both peed offthat they can't join our server after spending £20 each...

you can imagine that NONE of us will be buying the reinforcement pack.

[MissionCreep]

There seems to be no need to cater for A2R in a specific way.
It is said to contain the same units, vehicles, weapons and terrains as OA.


Seriously? I thought it only contained BAF and PMC content. What about USMC, Takistanis, Insurgents etc? By inference it seems USMC units would NOT be included. If it did contain the same units, vehicles, weapons and terrains as OA, then it would essentially be OA+BAF+PMC minus OA missions, making it a great bargain since the official mission content for OA seems pretty restricted anyway.

[Joe98]

If I was to purchase this and install it on top of my already existing ArmA2 and OA install would it install the DLC as if I had downloaded it?




I think the answer is "Yes"!
-

[PuFu]

It is interesting to see how your first A2 purchase impacts your total cost of ownership.

Now If we could just get a non-standalone OA DLC for A2 owners and a non-standalone A2 DLC for A2:OA owners, then the playing field would be leveled on pricing.
I can't really believe that someone actually brought up the financials in the question.

Ok, let me break it down this way: an average game (insert name if you please) costs about 40-50EUs a piece (that is 50-60$). The average play time from a game is about 10 hours for FPS/action game and most like in the range of 30-40 for a RPG/RTS .(not talking about MP focused games such as COD, BF etc). Now, what is the lifespan of a game BIS produces? I would say a lot longer...The price for each installment is less though than the average game out there though.

I do understand your POV regarding long time players that already own one or the other, and the cost is higher than for a new player, who can pick CO and BAF, and be done with. Still, that happens with anything else in the world, where buying slices of an object might be in fact more expensive than buying the object in itself (IE: for computers this does apply to a certain degree).


However I think it's a bit of an amateur distribution strategy that has genuinely impacted on the multiplayer experience in my opinion - we have a lot of gamers who won't get this game because
a) they don't understand what games to buy
b) the patching logic is hard to follow
c) the mod content creates a "hard to connect" online MP experience
d) the steam version is really hard to handle alongside other DLC/ DVD versions
e) different versions are available in different countries
f) there are too many keys/controls to master (and you need a special keyboard)
g) the graphics card/ CPU/ RAM setup is really hard to get right - sometimes a great rig performs awfully on arma, whereas a not so great rig with jus tthe right graphics card is just fine...
h) the AI's we recruit in a mission talk rreeeealllllyyyyy slloooowwwwllllyyyyy liiiikkkkke a deeeeeeeemmmmmoooooooonnnnnnnn taaalkkinnnnnggggg arrrrraaaaammmaaaaaiiiccc.... because we have the low res DLC in game - it RUINS the experience totally (pushing us to buy the content etc - and is just an awful strategy - alienating newcomers who come and look over your shoulder when you're playing, and think "well that sucks") - itappears that anyonewho has the actual bought DLC also gets this when somone without the bought DLC joins the server - i mean that is truly terrible!
a) i sort of agree, but i for one prefer being able to use my previous game content with the new one, rather than seeing BIS adopt the average developer market strategy: release a new game each year, where the new game is most likely the same as previous, with a slightly different content and story, but all in all pretty much the same.

b) i certainly disagree - the latest patch gets the game from point A to point B(latest), no matter the version at point A. Can't be easier. For steam users for instance steam does all the job for you.

c) so now it is the SDK fault and the ones using it to bring more free content and features? people are to lazy to setup their servers correctly, and use any of the existing community syncing solutions (untill BIS comes up which its own, which afaik will happen not that far off)? Really?

d) yep i agree that there should be a lot more done in order to get steam and retailt to "hug" better, but why would you want to get one retail and the other steam when there is also the sprocket DL version that works just like a retail version?

e) i am not aware of such thing. Care to give the source of that affirmation?

f) i prefer having more keys than less. And you don't need a special keyboard, i've been playing since OFP, and never had any sort of special/gaming keyboard, but used the default 104 US key layout without any sort of issues! Guess people are getting used to the console ports that other developers are releasing, where you are lucky to be able to customize your keys in any sort of way. Should be the other way around.

g) yes, that is something BIS is working on, but i certainly agree that there are issues that needs a lot of time to optimize and get it right from a player perspective.

h) i prefer the lite version of the DLC over not being able to play together at all due to missing content. I actually think it was a smart move from BIS perspective.

[twisted1in7]

I can't really believe that someone actually brought up the financials in the question.

Ok, let me break it down this way: an average game (insert name if you please) costs about 40-50EUs a piece (that is 50-60$). The average play time from a game is about 10 hours for FPS/action game and most like in the range of 30-40 for a RPG/RTS .(not talking about MP focused games such as COD, BF etc). Now, what is the lifespan of a game BIS produces? I would say a lot longer...The price for each installment is less though than the average game out there though.

I do understand your POV regarding long time players that already own one or the other, and the cost is higher than for a new player, who can pick CO and BAF, and be done with. Still, that happens with anything else in the world, where buying slices of an object might be in fact more expensive than buying the object in itself (IE: for computers this does apply to a certain degree).


a) i sort of agree, but i for one prefer being able to use my previous game content with the new one, rather than seeing BIS adopt the average developer market strategy: release a new game each year, where the new game is most likely the same as previous, with a slightly different content and story, but all in all pretty much the same.

b) i certainly disagree - the latest patch gets the game from point A to point B(latest), no matter the version at point A. Can't be easier. For steam users for instance steam does all the job for you.

c) so now it is the SDK fault and the ones using it to bring more free content and features? people are to lazy to setup their servers correctly, and use any of the existing community syncing solutions (untill BIS comes up which its own, which afaik will happen not that far off)? Really?

d) yep i agree that there should be a lot more done in order to get steam and retailt to "hug" better, but why would you want to get one retail and the other steam when there is also the sprocket DL version that works just like a retail version?

e) i am not aware of such thing. Care to give the source of that affirmation?

f) i prefer having more keys than less. And you don't need a special keyboard, i've been playing since OFP, and never had any sort of special/gaming keyboard, but used the default 104 US key layout without any sort of issues! Guess people are getting used to the console ports that other developers are releasing, where you are lucky to be able to customize your keys in any sort of way. Should be the other way around.

g) yes, that is something BIS is working on, but i certainly agree that there are issues that needs a lot of time to optimize and get it right from a player perspective.

h) i prefer the lite version of the DLC over not being able to play together at all due to missing content. I actually think it was a smart move from BIS perspective.

Good points on the financial aspects -- I have retracted my previous comments.

I'll just hold out for a little while and wait for the next A2:OA / A2:CO sale.

[ziiip]

Did the Guild Wars expansions include the campaigns that came before them?

I wonder how many people would have bought the GW expansions if they shipped without campaign and quests.

[Concurssi]

I have every songle one of them , and I can tell you that Eye of the North did not come with the campaigns and quests of Prophecies, Nightfall or Factions, and vice versa.

[ziiip]

I meant if expansions came without their own campaigns.


Did Lord of Destruction include the Diablo II "campaign"?

Did Broodwar include the original Starcraft campaigns?

Did Shivering Isles contain the Oblivion "campaign"?


They all came with new campaigns.

Not that I care and not that I played any of the campaigns because of my crappy pc, just you know, trying to figure out the reasons.

I doubt someone who has bought Reinforcements will buy OA just to have the campaign.

[Concurssi]

I believe BAF and PMC both come with campaigns and possibly missions.

As far as them not buying OA, that's fine.

[Zipper5]

Unless more have been added specifically for Reinforcements, you will at least be getting two campaigns, Operation Crimson Lance (BAF) & Operation Black Gauntlet (PMC), as well as 9 SP missions and 1 showcase from BAF, and 3 SP missions and 1 showcase from PMC. ;)

[Rough Knight]

I just pre-ordered my A2: Reinforcements disk today. I had already purchased PMC, is it possible to donate that to my brother if I have already installed it on my machine? It was a sprocket purchase from memory.

I would think it should be ok as a new cd-key will be implemented when I install A@<hidden>:Reinforcments leaving the other free?

Seriously though: For $15Au the cheap ass should go buy it himself : P

Thanks

Frosty

[Narsil]

I am slightly confused by one aspect of this, and I think its been cleared up already but I am still confused.

If I was to purchase this and install it on top of my already existing ArmA2 and OA install would it install the DLC as if I had downloaded it?

Iv been looking at the DLC for a while and this seems to be an ideal way to get it.

Excellent question. I also would like to know what happens with this. If the full DVD versions of A2 and OA are already installed, will the Reinforcements DVD ONLY install basically the BAF & PMC files ? Any "official" answer would be greatly appreciated by alot of us potential buyers. Thanks!

[NinetyThird]

Excellent question. I also would like to know what happens with this. If the full DVD versions of A2 and OA are already installed, will the Reinforcements DVD ONLY install basically the BAF & PMC files ? Any "official" answer would be greatly appreciated by alot of us potential buyers. Thanks!
join issue.
Im A2 DVD and OA DVD and A2 RFT DVD
all together is not installed. I wasted money? I need only DLC? plz reply:confused:
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/6839/f2png.png
get
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/5931/a22t.jpg
http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/8158/assfp.jpg

russian version ARMA 2 Combined Operations 1.59 (a2 DVD+OA DVD)

p.s if you put separately, then everything works fine. not compatible with Combined Operations?
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/8670/arma2rft201104011441380.th.jpg (http://img145.imageshack.us/i/arma2rft201104011441380.jpg/)

I waited for so long a Russian version of DLC. why do so? I'm disappointed

[XZARES]

I have exactly the same problem. I demand an explanation! (google translator is cool)

[NinetyThird]

:mad:some one of the officials we respond? or again to the Russian 4 months new expectations?
http://www.arma2.ru/forums/showpost.php?p=975958&postcount=30

[Dwarden]

can You exactly write steps what you do?

what version installing over what version and what distribution ?

e,g, i'm not sure if you installing RFT over 1.59 or what

[NinetyThird]

can You exactly write steps what you do?

what version installing over what version and what distribution ?

e,g, i'm not sure if you installing RFT over 1.59 or what

tell only one ARMA 2 Combined Operations + RFT compatible? I get the supplement? Then I describe how to install :(
I have a disc version
http://ru.akella.com/Game.aspx?id=1877
http://games.1c.ru/arma2_oa/
http://games.1c.ru/arma2_rf/

RFT refused to install the version 1.57 Combined
RFT refused to install the version 1.59 Combined

problem is with the Russian distribution of 1С http://www.arma2.ru/forums/showthread.php?p=976068&posted=1#post976068

[XZARES]

First I had my favorite Arma 2 + arma 2 OA to the 1.57 patch. Even the beta did not stand. And then, I spent nine hour his worthless life so that would download arma 2 reforsments and buy a key (and it is - 30 minutes of my life). Decided to put on my favorite Arma 2 CO. but when you install the above error appears.
what did I do wrong? (I like Google translator)

[Dwarden]

ok,
i wanted to be sure you don't have installed PMC / BAF and trying over-install it ...

if You want help me track the problem, please try following:

1. have installed A2/OA/A2:CO
2. place A2: RFT into DVD
3. copy the content of the DVD onto HDD
4. keep A2: RFT in bay
5. goto your HDD copy of the install and erase all SETUP.CRC files
6. start AUTORUN.EXE
7. wait till it installs

and share results with us, thanks in advance

[NinetyThird]

ok,
i wanted to be sure you don't have installed PMC / BAF and trying over-install it ...

if You want help me track the problem, please try following:

1. have installed A2/OA/A2:CO
2. place A2: RFT into DVD
3. copy the content of the DVD onto HDD
4. keep A2: RFT in bay
5. goto your HDD copy of the install and erase all SETUP.CRC files
6. start AUTORUN.EXE
7. wait till it installs

and share results with us, thanks in advance

Thank you) I'm running to try and get back with the results :bounce3:

[Maruk]

First I had my favorite Arma 2 + arma 2 OA to the 1.57 patch. Even the beta did not stand. And then, I spent nine hour his worthless life so that would download arma 2 reforsments and buy a key (and it is - 30 minutes of my life). Decided to put on my favorite Arma 2 CO. but when you install the above error appears.
what did I do wrong? (I like Google translator)

Where is reinforcements available from as a download?

[Smurf]

http://dobrochan.ru/src/jpg/1102/oh-boy-here-we-go%5B1%5D.jpg

[Bomba]

Where is reinforcements available from as a download?

torrents
link removed

[Acelondoner]

torrents
link removed

Wow... Are you thick? I think you are.:rolleyes:

[Cole]

torrents
link removed
http://i572.photobucket.com/albums/ss164/Cocoreccho/NOT-SURE-IF-TROLL-OR-JUST-VERY-STUPID.jpg

[Zipper5]

Not very smart to admit to pirating a game on its official forum. :rolleyes:

User suspended until proof of purchase is made.

[Concurssi]

I lol'd. That's pretty hilarious.

[NinetyThird]

guys let the topic did not go away! I repeat! I have a disc version!

[XZARES]

Where is reinforcements available from as a download?
I do not have shops with games on proximity (it is Russian, do not forget) and I buy games through the Internet.

[Maruk]

Certainly for those with legitimate Russian DVD version we are prepared to help. Just considering nature of the product there release is NO legitimate download version as far as I can tell...

[NinetyThird]

ok
1 - installed A2
2 - installed OA
3 - OA patching A2 to version 1.06 {patch is on the disk ARMA2Patch_1_06.exe}
4 - received version of the game ARMA 2 Combined Operations 1.51 bild 71083
5 - disk RFT is in drive
6 - copy disk HDD
7 - delete 2 files setup.crc
8 - start AVTORUN.EXE
9 - http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/6839/f2png.png
Installation does not even begin
there is a check and
http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/298/stringt.jpg

A2RFT installed properly
BAF PMC not installed

ps tech support 1C sends.... --->
but the key is a code of technical support

[MadDogX]

6 - copy disk HDD
7 - delete 2 files setup.crc and \DLCs\setup.crc

Why?
Why?

[Macadam Cow]

f) there are too many keys/controls to master (and you need a special keyboard)
:rofl:
You mean something like this ?
http://conceptrends.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/keyboard_bag2.jpg

A special keyboard...seriously...

[Dwarden]

I just pre-ordered my A2: Reinforcements disk today. I had already purchased PMC, is it possible to donate that to my brother if I have already installed it on my machine? It was a sprocket purchase from memory.

I would think it should be ok as a new cd-key will be implemented when I install A@<hidden>:Reinforcments leaving the other free?

Seriously though: For $15Au the cheap ass should go buy it himself : P

Thanks

Frosty

the keys should be overwritten but i strogly recommend to uninstall the PMC first

then you can give it to Your brother and use your RFT for upgrade

[Kernriver]

Because of all the excitement in April fools day thread I forgot to order :eek:, but I've just ordered two copies. :)

Though I bought DLC from Sprocket too, I guess you can't have too many BIS products, right? :bounce3:

[NinetyThird]

Hello! I realized I now ignore. and recorded to the pirates? Who can I show proof of purchase? NOT ALL ON ONE Compares Combs!

look at the output of your release in Europe 4 numbers

[Dwarden]

@<hidden>
Your issue is followed but atm.
i don't have better solution (than my previous try on the crc) at hand
please wait till i get confirmed other possible solution

[NinetyThird]

@<hidden>
Your issue is followed but atm.
i don't have better solution (than my previous try on the crc) at hand
please wait till i get confirmed other possible solution
helped the other way
copy only folder DLCs
delete setup.crc
instal
again run the patch 1.59 final
http://img816.imageshack.us/img816/2940/1111uy.jpg
get the full version ARMA 2 Combined Operations + BAF+PMC
http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/6977/arma2oa2011040300514910.png
And now the question!
Who is to blame for this negligence?
Thank you tolerate me. issue closed
And please fix the DVD version

[Dwarden]

helped the other way
copy only folder DLCs
delete setup.crc
instal
again run the patch 1.59 final

get the full version ARMA 2 Combined Operations + BAF+PMC

And now the question!
Who is to blame for this negligence?
Thank you tolerate me. issue closed
And please fix the DVD version

well done and THANKS for sharing this with us! :yay:

if there are any problem please feel free to contact us/post again
tho i'm not sure how we going to fix the DVD (except this workaround)
will see next week

[Dwarden]

we released utility to resolve the problem with installing DLCs from ARMA 2: Reinforcements DVD

read sticky: http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?t=117164

[Stefos71]

Hi all,

The reason I brought this up initially was because I have the BAF & PMC DLC's which cost me $9.99 each.

I just wanted to finalize that what I own which is the following IS what is now released:
Arma 2
Arma 2 OA
I bought both when I bought the Combined Operations Disc from Best Buy here in the U.S.

Arma 2 BAF DLC $9.99
Arma 3 PMC DLC $9.99
These were bought separately.

Reinforcements standalone is my BAF & PMC DLC on disk. Right?
So in conclusion: I own the entire set and don't need to buy "Reinforcements"
Correct everyone? BI peeps please?

Thanks again! I want to be a happy banana, tell me I'm right :yay:

[Lonestar]

No, what you own is not what has been released.

You can be even happier because you have A2 + OA missions and campaigns, which are not included in Reinforcements.

Happy banana to you! :yay:

[@ST]

When will the reinforcements DVD be available in shops in germany?
My local dealer wanted to charge me €36.95 for an imported version (is it available anywhere yet :confused:) which seems a little high priced to me!?

[RoyaltyinExile]

Hi all,
Correct everyone? BI peeps please?

Thanks again! I want to be a happy banana, tell me I'm right :yay:


Please, please do excuse my inherent laziness:
http://forums.bistudio.com/showpost.php?p=1893412&postcount=6

Have thyself banana! :yay:


Best,
RiE

[Flattermann]

When will the reinforcements DVD be available in shops in germany?
My local dealer wanted to charge me €36.95 for an imported version (is it available anywhere yet :confused:) which seems a little high priced to me!?

Definitely overpriced. Somehow the release date in Germany seems to be 4 May. Buggers. Some company on Amazon is apparently trying to sell it for 60 € (http://www.amazon.de/gp/offer-listing/B004Q4EFLQ/ref=dp_olp_new_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=new). Maybe translating the subtitles is taking a little longer, there might be some problems rendering the British slang / argot into proper German ;). I could make a small fortune by crossing the border to the Czech Republic, grab a ton of retail copies there and sell them via ebay.de ^^

[Mr Burns]

I could make a small fortune by crossing the border to the Czech Republic, grab a ton of retail copies there and sell them via ebay.de ^^

You won´t. ArmA 1 times are over :p

[doveman]

If I've already got an updated OA installed, how do I install and update Reinforcements?

I actually only want to install the BAF and PMC content and campaigns to my OA folder, but I see there's a 1.03 update which is supposed to be installed by running the Arma2OARFT_1.6 update. Can I just run that again after installing the BAF and PMC DLC to update those without messing up my OA install?

[Leon86]

When will the reinforcements DVD be available in shops in germany?
My local dealer wanted to charge me €36.95 for an imported version (is it available anywhere yet :confused:) which seems a little high priced to me!?

reinforcements is pmc and baf + the operation arrowhead map right? if you already have arrowhead the 2 dlc's are 9,- each, so yeah, quite expensive. Why dont you just buy them on https://store.bistudio.com/action-fps-games

[andersson]

I will buy it. I like to have my games on hard copy (you never know when you end up without internet and your hd has crashed..). I also want it on my shelf next to the other BIS games :)