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Muahaha
Dec 17 2010, 07:29
Just couldn't believe the level of details was given to the facial expression of this game after watching this video. I bet this would bring the meaning of animation to a whole new level.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTOlEUAtGog&feature=player_embedded
Tonci87
Dec 17 2010, 11:02
Is his going to be on PC or on consoles only?
Zipper5
Dec 17 2010, 12:04
So far it's only coming out for consoles, like most Rockstar games, unfortunately. I agree with the OP, that's one of the most impressive feats of technology I've seen in a long time.
It will be console only at first, then maybe PC, like they usually do for GTA. It's probably the only console game I see buying between now and then. Console games are just shit lately.
Great video.... amazing what they can do now.
STALKERGB
Dec 17 2010, 13:02
I remember seeing a preview of this ages ago and being really excited, sort of forgot about it till now. Looks really good the facial animation, give it an extra year and it will be on PC.
Saying that, didn't GTA4 come out quite soon after the console version?
Saying that, didn't GTA4 come out quite soon after the console version?
GTA IV Release date(s)
PlayStation 3, Xbox 360
29 April 2008
Microsoft Windows
2 December 2008
Yeah, it wasn't too far apart, 6 months or so... it was worth the wait, although I ended up buying it used for XBOX eventually the following year.
Tonci87
Dec 17 2010, 13:16
Oh man I hate this consoles first shit....
11aTony
Dec 17 2010, 13:22
It is what it is, I dont like it either. Anyway, this is very impressive indeed.
sparks50
Dec 17 2010, 13:25
It will be console only at first, then maybe PC, like they usually do for GTA. It's probably the only console game I see buying between now and then. Console games are just shit lately.
This is what people said about Red Dead Redemption. So I wouldn't get my hopes too high.
This is what people said about Red Dead Redemption. So I wouldn't get my hopes too high.
Yep, I have no hopes anyways when it comes to PC gaming anymore... :)
Red Dead was a really good game, I finished about 75% of it before I got bored. I haven't bought any DCLs or expansions though... If I have to buy LA Noire on XBOX then so be it. Rockstar is on my list (very short list) of game companies I'd still like to support.
sparks50
Dec 17 2010, 13:48
RDR PC may still come, its not impossible, but the so far six months of complete silence is very different from how the GTA 4 PC release went down.
It definitely feels like Rockstar has thrown PC gamers off the boat.
On the other hand, a 360 only costs roughly the same as a high end graphics card. It has a lot of good games on it,
most of which you could probably buy cheap near the end of its life cycle.
])rStrangelove
Dec 17 2010, 13:55
As much as i'd love to see RDR on pc, i'd only buy it for SP.
GTA4 was cheated & hacked to death on PC. Ppl shooting RPGs out of pistols, spawning enemy police officers around you, teleporting you 2km up into the air, spawning ships and ramps on the road in front of you so you couldnt win a race anymore.
The best races i had were on a console. MP on PC was complete chaos.
Thomas C
Dec 17 2010, 16:25
I will ask a friend and find out what the PC release status is, if there is one at all.
Flash Thunder
Dec 17 2010, 21:46
I was blown away at the end
"you've got the wrong guy!" That was almost too real
Imagine this in arma 2 with your squad, amazing Immersion.
MadRussian
Dec 17 2010, 23:53
RDR PC may still come, its not impossible, but the so far six months of complete silence is very different from how the GTA 4 PC release went down.
It definitely feels like Rockstar has thrown PC gamers off the boat.
My guess is Rockstar moves forward with PC release once some financial condition is met. They lock their actuaries together in a room and make them come up with some arcane formula.
If I were to bet, we'll see an announcement for RDR on PC, as ultimately its another revenue stream for Rockstar. But not until the point they can squeeze it for all the money they can get! :D
SgtH3nry3
Dec 18 2010, 08:21
I was blown away at the end
"you've got the wrong guy!" That was almost too real
Imagine this in arma 2 with your squad, amazing Immersion.But these are all prebuilt animations.
Real Virtuality is centered on dynamic animations. Everything ought to be dynamic and not prebuilt or scripted in any way.
Although a Facial Action Coding System like used in Half-Life 2 which could also autogenerate facial expressions on the fly would be a nice addition to the already great lipsyncing feature.
Maddmatt
Dec 18 2010, 08:36
Real Virtuality is centered on dynamic animations. Everything ought to be dynamic and not prebuilt or scripted in any way.
Voices still need to be recorded in advance, the facial animations could go with the voice sampls just the the game does/did (maybe this has changed at some point) with lip-sync.
Plus a bunch of facial animations to cover a bunch of other common situations and you'll have something as dynamic as the game is now.
])rStrangelove
Dec 18 2010, 09:22
I remember even Halflife 1 (1998) had some sort of lip-sync. Models opened their mouth wider the louder the wavesound was that was played.
You could throw any wavesound at them and yet the mouth animation was pretty believable.
Binkowski
Dec 19 2010, 04:15
that's pretty fucking amazing.
Muahaha
Dec 19 2010, 07:52
Yep, I have no hopes anyways when it comes to PC gaming anymore... :)
Red Dead was a really good game, I finished about 75% of it before I got bored. I haven't bought any DCLs or expansions though... If I have to buy LA Noire on XBOX then so be it. Rockstar is on my list (very short list) of game companies I'd still like to support.
The numbers of games developers that are still producing PC games are dwindling.... mainly due to the age old story of piracy.
Zipper5
Dec 19 2010, 08:04
The numbers of games developers that are still producing PC games are dwindling.... mainly due to the age old story of piracy.
The piracy excuse is nothing more than that, a story. Sure, it plays a part, but the real reason for most is that the PC is not as profitable as consoles and is a more "difficult" target market. Funny how they still believe that after BFBC2, one of those so-called AAA titles, sold better on the PC than on each individual console.
Tonci87
Dec 19 2010, 10:29
The Piracy.....yeah, because there isn´t any on consoles. Some of my Friends on the University are XBox players and they don´t buy a single game!
Piracy on PC is just a very lame excuse. The real reason is that you have lower development costs because you don´t have to make sure that the game runs on multiple systems but you can still sale the game for a higher Price. (Germany New PC Game 50€, new console game over 60€)
Management political bullshit aside, the technology is incredible.
I'm looking forward to the next generation of games that will use this - we're slowly climbing our way out of uncanny valley...
Muahaha
Dec 19 2010, 11:23
True to say that consoles games are pirate-able, yet publishers still have much control over it, 1 feature in particular : the online/multiplayer feature and that itself might make console players choose unmod-ed console over mod-ed console... At least over the net and not via Lan play.
Anyway back to topic. The technology feat of the game still require great cast to make the facial expression believable, getting non-prof to create the expression will just be like watching a B grade movie.
My God...that blew me away. It almost made me consider buying a console.
Abs
Flash Thunder
Dec 19 2010, 19:33
I do hope that Rockstar will make a good port of RDR to PC and this game aswell.
Rockstar is an amazing developer
])rStrangelove
Mar 10 2011, 06:12
New video: Interrogations & Investigations:
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gameplay-series-l-a-noire/711460?type=flv
Again, the best face animations ever!
VanhA-ICON
Mar 10 2011, 07:03
I will get this for my PS3 for sure.
The atmosphere feels a bit similar as in Mafia2 which I've been playing on pc recently.
(I still don't understand the hostility towards consoles with some people.. maybe it changes when you have kids)
:rolleyes:
Zipper5
Mar 10 2011, 07:36
It's mainly because titles going multiplatform never brings anything good to the PC version. In fact, I cannot recall off the top of my head one instance where a title went multiplatform that didn't make the PC version worse. Heck, if you want a recent example check out what's happened to Crysis 2.
It's mainly because titles going multiplatform never brings anything good to the PC version. In fact, I cannot recall off the top of my head one instance where a title went multiplatform that didn't make the PC version worse. Heck, if you want a recent example check out what's happened to Crysis 2.
Oh hohohoho
Theres this little game called "Operation Flashpoint: Elite" you might wanna look up.
Quite a few of the performance enhancements, terrain streaming and that kind of tech came out of moving OFP to console ;)
Zipper5
Mar 10 2011, 07:52
Oh hohohoho
Theres this little game called "Operation Flashpoint: Elite" you might wanna look up.
Quite a few of the performance enhancements, terrain streaming and that kind of tech came out of moving OFP to console ;)
Guess one slipped my mind. :D
Still, that's only one out of god knows how many multiplatform titles lately, and it was from a known-to-be-reliable developer.
VanhA-ICON
Mar 10 2011, 08:12
It's mainly because titles going multiplatform never brings anything good to the PC version. In fact, I cannot recall off the top of my head one instance where a title went multiplatform that didn't make the PC version worse. Heck, if you want a recent example check out what's happened to Crysis 2.
I agree fully. I mainly purchase "PS3 exclusive" ones for my console.
(Uncharted 1&2 etc..)
PC is my favorite platform but I just meant bashing consoles just because they exist, is silly.
Muahaha
Mar 10 2011, 09:27
multiplatform releases are meant to only milk money out of the players. While exclusives are to really showcase their works... to a certain degree...
And I'm for sure going to get this game, solely on the acting alone makes the game worthwhile to keep.
If it's freeroaming, and not a scripted sequence. It could be a brilliant idea for a game.
I just wish it was for PC.
bonchie
Mar 21 2011, 00:03
If it's freeroaming, and not a scripted sequence. It could be a brilliant idea for a game.
I just wish it was for PC.
It is free-roaming, but everything I've read is that it isn't a sandbox type gameplay.
I'd venture it's more like the original Mafia (with a little more freedom and open gameplay) where the narrative has to be more scripted to reach it's pinnacle.
This very much looks like the other side of Mafia...
Funny to see all those actors from Mad men, Heroes...
It looks great, but it shows how rigid the system is : you have to scan the actors 1:1 with even the exact haircut.
Katipo66
May 18 2011, 01:57
Some game play (http://ca.kotaku.com/5802203/14-minutes-of-la-noires-unexpected-thrills)
Rockstar get my vote everytime... this looks to be a different direction, still the big open worlds etc, but no more GTA style "F**K this town up" game/gun play... i like it, and i like the Mafia feel to it.
i recently got a PS3 :D what a great all round entertainment system! look forward to playing this game on it.
])rStrangelove
May 19 2011, 06:08
I watched about an hour of gameplay stream on justin.tv, it looked pretty decent.
One thing i didnt know: there are garages with secret bonus cars (experimental / extreme sport types) which you can find hidden all over the city, so there is a bit of free roaming that makes a bit sense. :)
Can't wait.
i might ask my brother for his PS3...damn how i hate that, but this games looks like some good fun as it is indeed something else...i still remember the police quests games, which i actually enjoyed a lot back in the day
JamesF1
May 19 2011, 09:35
This is the one title tempting me to find the money to pick up an X360 - but I wonder if Rockstar will play the usual game of porting it to PC a year down the line? Decisions, decisions :D
Soul_Assassin
May 19 2011, 09:49
24 hours till its in my mailbox :)
BangTail
May 19 2011, 10:55
I still remember the police quests games, which i actually enjoyed a lot back in the day
I loved the PQ series - pure excellence.
Might dust off the 360 for LA Noire. It looks very interesting :D
Tonci87
May 19 2011, 11:09
This is the one title tempting me to find the money to pick up an X360 - but I wonder if Rockstar will play the usual game of porting it to PC a year down the line? Decisions, decisions :D
Did they do that with Red Dead Redemption?
I really hate them for that... (and for the really bad PC Port of GTA4)
Mr. Charles
May 19 2011, 13:19
Nope, RDR will definetly not come to PC.
Jakerod
May 19 2011, 14:01
Ctrl-Alt-Del LA Noire Comic (http://v.cdn.cad-comic.com/comics/cad-20110518-8cc03.png)
JamesF1
May 19 2011, 14:26
Did they do that with Red Dead Redemption?
I really hate them for that... (and for the really bad PC Port of GTA4)
No, they didn't. The GTA4 port wasn't brilliant, I'll give you that, but it was fine with an X360 controller (at least, that's how I played it on my PC). I'd just rather have LA Noire on PC than fork out £160 for an X360, plus the game price... just for the one game. :rolleyes:
Placebo
May 19 2011, 14:31
The Police Quest series (up to PQ4) is easily my favourite series of games to date, can't wait for this and had it pre-ordered for some time on 360, will arrive here next week, shame my Mum's visiting for the week from England ;)
The Police Quest series (up to PQ4) is easily my favourite series of games to date, can't wait for this and had it pre-ordered for some time on 360, will arrive here next week, shame my Mum's visiting for the week from England ;)
and i was thinking i was the only one who enjoyed the PQ series. seems not
No, they didn't. The GTA4 port wasn't brilliant, I'll give you that, but it was fine with an X360 controller (at least, that's how I played it on my PC). I'd just rather have LA Noire on PC than fork out £160 for an X360, plus the game price... just for the one game. :rolleyes:
You surely have a friend who owns a Xbox/PS3, and i am sure you own a Tv or a monitor for the box. You buy the game, he lends you the button box, you both get to play it ;) At least that is what i will do. It is not like you can play it more than once anyways :P
JamesF1
May 19 2011, 14:52
You surely have a friend who owns a Xbox/PS3, and i am sure you own a Tv or a monitor for the box. You buy the game, he lends you the button box, you both get to play it ;) At least that is what i will do. It is not like you can play it more than once anyways :P
Friends?! What are those? :p In all seriousness... that's not a bad idea. Now I just need to find one of these 'friends' you speak of :icon_mrgreen:
Placebo
May 19 2011, 15:05
La Noire + Xbox 360 Slim + 5.1 stereo system + 120" projector screen = Awesomeness, can't wait!
La Noire + Xbox 360 Slim + 5.1 stereo system + 120" projector screen = Awesomeness, can't wait!
sometimes i wonder how you got to work for the only PC exclusive developer left :P
Placebo
May 19 2011, 15:30
By starting each working day hoping and praying for a 360 version of Arma one day ;)
JamesF1
May 19 2011, 15:31
By starting each working day hoping and praying for a 360 version of Arma one day ;)
You'll be needing this:
http://www.aeropause.com/wordpress/archives/images/2008/07/360controllerbuttons.jpg
Placebo
May 19 2011, 15:38
Operation Flashpoint: Elite worked just fine with a controller ;)
JamesF1
May 19 2011, 15:44
Operation Flashpoint: Elite worked just fine with a controller ;)
Wouldn't know :p I value my keyboard too highly :D I'll take your word for it... just this once :eek:
Tonci87
May 20 2011, 14:15
No, they didn't. The GTA4 port wasn't brilliant, I'll give you that, but it was fine with an X360 controller (at least, that's how I played it on my PC). I'd just rather have LA Noire on PC than fork out £160 for an X360, plus the game price... just for the one game. :rolleyes:
No, the controls were just fine, it was the really bad optimisation. Oh and the huge load of bugs, ohh and the really bad netcode (you think warping in Arma is bad?)
Zipper5
May 20 2011, 15:09
^ This x1,000.
Oh, and don't forget SecuROM and Games for Windows Live and Rockstar Social Club (and Steam DRM if you have it on Steam). :rolleyes:
Frankly, with crap like that, I'm happy Rockstar aren't putting games on the PC. I'd rather not have the option than deal with that stuff.
sparks50
May 20 2011, 15:34
Id love LAN and RDR on the PC. Perhaps ill buy a cheap 360 with some used games when the Xbox 720 comes out.
Maddmatt
May 20 2011, 15:48
^ This x1,000.
Oh, and don't forget SecuROM and Games for Windows Live and Rockstar Social Club (and Steam DRM if you have it on Steam). :rolleyes:
Frankly, with crap like that, I'm happy Rockstar aren't putting games on the PC. I'd rather not have the option than deal with that stuff.
After pre-ordering GTA4 for PC... Rockstar can stick to consoles :rolleyes:
I hate buying a game and then finding out I have to use other crap software with it. Do PC versions right. Otherwise don't blame piracy for the PC version being a flop when developers like BIS can succeed on PC.
Heatseeker
May 20 2011, 21:27
I watched some gameplay today, i think this game can just be watched and its not really diferent from playing? It could be due to how it was being captured but the performance seemed really awfull and there was late texture loading and "lod morphing", ala gta iv.
TBH i would rather have RDR for the PC than this.. more gameplay and freedom i think.
GossamerSolid
May 20 2011, 22:06
Operation Flashpoint: Elite worked just fine with a controller ;)
Well the "game" worked great, but the limitations with the editor and no easy way to get custom missions/content built from the pc versions over made it not as fun.
Only reason I bought Elite was because I didn't have pc capable of playing Resistance/CWC at the time, but I had an xbox.
I missed not having CTI on it though.
Mr. Charles
May 21 2011, 00:00
Having played a few cases i think that Noire is really a nice game. The mimics are wellmade and sometimes i forget that it is a game and not a movie.
Soul_Assassin
May 21 2011, 01:41
Fantastic game. Keeps you glued for hours.
Tonci87
May 21 2011, 19:20
I had bought GTA4 on PC right on Release day...I was simply shocked. I had a PC that had way better hardware then an XBox 360 and still the game looked even more awfull then GTA San Andreas! I was happy to have an NVidia card, ATI Users couldn´t play at all. MP was a complete desaster with warping all over the place. But stil I think that GTA4 is a really great game (if you have the hardware to run it decently). I would love to see LAN on PC
])rStrangelove
May 23 2011, 09:32
Played whole saturday & sunday, what a great game! :)
Only things i'd improve:
- cockpit view for cars
- more reactions from bystanders
- values for health, so paying for hot dogs & coffee would actually make sense
- going undercover in a group would be awesome. just before a big coup is going down you phone your police buddies and help arresting on the scene.
- i miss random cars full of hit men trying to kill me while driving around
- a better ordering of all clues connected to locations, events and people. some more complicated cases would be awesome, but with this currently simplistic truth/doubt/lie & proof stuff it would be a bit harsh.
All in all, i had a great time. Looking forward to more cases via DLC. :)
LA Noire coming to PC this Fall (http://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/17161/la-noire-is-coming-for-pc-this-fall.html)
Interesting. I think I'll wait till just after release to decide on when to buy this. I almost certainly will I just want to see what state it's in upon release first.
And hopefully no GFWL this time, that was such a pain in the ass with GTA 4.
Muahaha
Jun 24 2011, 06:17
good news for those who hated or not bothered with console. True that ^
good news not bothered with console.
That would proberly be me. Good news indeed though, seems rather impressive believe i shall buy this.
mrcash2009
Jun 24 2011, 10:47
If anything to come to PC from R* I would much rather see Red Dead than this, well, I would rather see both. I think Red Dead would be a purchase if they both came out on PC before this.
Bit off topic, but it was just seeing a R* game coming to pc that got me thinking :)
And hopefully no GFWL
Seeing as they are in bed together with the massive release of GTAIV I dont think they will miss out contract wise for this, so I would think it will be.
Tonci87
Jun 24 2011, 11:06
They should really bring on Red Dead Redemption..... Maybe they have some weird contracts with MS and Sony to kep it console exclusive....
If anything to come to PC from R* I would much rather see Red Dead than this, well, I would rather see both. I think Red Dead would be a purchase if they both came out on PC before this.
I agree. I would prefer red dead, but I am happy with this. Another game to kill time before Arma 3 is released. :D
And unless the box art is just a place holder, there's no GFWL on it. Reading comments on various sites seems people don't think it will be, but without an official announcement that kinda means bugger all.
davidhaunte
Jun 26 2011, 03:46
La Noire looks awesome just can't wait to play it :) !!!
])rStrangelove
Jun 26 2011, 09:46
If anything to come to PC from R* I would much rather see Red Dead than this, well, I would rather see both. I think Red Dead would be a purchase if they both came out on PC before this.
+ 1.000.000.000.000.000
Gonna buy LA Noire PC anyway, just to send a small signal a pc version is appreciated.
RobertHammer
Jun 26 2011, 09:56
I bet there will be RDR for PC later - nice to see LA Noire PC
So excited for LA Noire to be on PC, but would of really loved it if RDR came to PC. I think it's because RDR sold enough on console they didn't see the need for it on PC. Rockstar is kind of known for their PC cash grabs, especially after GTAIV PC.
])rStrangelove
Jun 28 2011, 00:34
So excited for LA Noire to be on PC, but would of really loved it if RDR came to PC. I think it's because RDR sold enough on console they didn't see the need for it on PC. Rockstar is kind of known for their PC cash grabs, especially after GTAIV PC.
Why did they do it with GTA4 PC then? Saying 'it sold pretty well on consoles' is a blunt understatement. ;)
Tonci87
Jun 28 2011, 10:43
Well I don´t belive that the GTA4 PC port was very expensive. It was an desaster, they could have sold many more copies on PC if they didn´t deliver an unplaable Bugfest
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