The weapon I want...

[9mm]

Let's do it this way: point few thingies you'd like to have in the next official addon. And if something you want has been already mentioned, then do it again so support for this very weapon shall get stronger.
Here are my types:

- M249 SAW
- M4 Carabine with M203 and Scope
- FN-FAL
- RPK 74
- OC-14 "Groza"

[Joseph Stalin]

I agree, someone with taste in weaponry, I like it.
Dont forget you would be lost without a recoiless!!

[Aaron Kane]

I agree, they all look great, especially the M4A1, which is my favorite gun http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

However, I've never heard of the OC-14. Can you post any info or links for this gun?

[Goldeneye]

yeah imlost

[9mm]

Grooza is  a new russian assault rifle
Check this site (http://world.guns.ru/assault/as09-e.htm) for more info on that gun.

C'mon people, what abaut your ideas?

[AndyZ]

I like this selection http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

On my side I would like more sniper weapons. There is nice sniper rifle (I don't remember name http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif ) build around Brwoning M2 construction, working on .50 cal ammo.

AndyZ

[AndyZ]

I think, that I've found it

- Barrett M82

But not for sure http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

AndyZ

[Lucidity]

A mini gun for commando teams would be nice, like Ventura's in Preditor. A saw would be nice too, but I prefer something a little heavier for laying down a #### of a lot of cover fire on those stupid guys that go prone in a bush & start firing.

[Maverick101st]

id like to see:
NATO:
HK OICW
M4 Carbine
PSG-1 Sniper Rifle
SIG SG552 Commando
Walther WA2000
SR25k Widowmaker
Pancor Jackhammer 12 ga
Z-M LR300 M/L
FN-P90
FA-MAS
Colt M4a1

[Crazed Killa]

Mav some of those guns weren't around in the 1980s like the oicw but I defintly think there sould be a shotgun added and another silenced rifle or sub machine gun.

[Red Oct]

that Grooza looks alot like a Famas, are they related?

[Marcus Crassus]

Let's remember that we want weapons, circa 1985.

In my humble opinion, BIS blew it when they Added-On the HKG36, which, correct me if wrong did not come out until the late '90s.

And what' s with the Sausage Shooter Super Soaker/Grenade Launcher? ...Bleeeeech!!

[residuum]

Potato guns for the civs.

[Lucidity]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from residuum on 9:22 am on Nov. 18, 2001
Potato guns for the civs.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Yeah, I can see it now, a bunch of soldiers standing around "that's one strange lookin bird................ OH MY GOD...INCOMING!!!!!!!"

[Pete]

the most wanted and most usefull weapons would be.

1# 80 or 60 mm Mortar

2# AP-mines, claymores and tripwire mines.

3# heavy AT weapon.


you can add as many rifles and other weapons you want, but it changes nothing in the gameplay, its only a new skin and a new sound to the already existing weapons..nothing more.

[ran]

i agree with pete for his last words
after it's just a question of personal preference , it's only a game and 3 or 4 assault rifles are enough , same thing for the other weapons , a rifle is a rifles and the modern caracteristics of the rifles are the same (not exactly but thy are almost the same)
it won't change the gameplay
we need more different weapons (like the pete's mortars , real heavy machine guns , artillery etc etc ...)

[sn1per]

What I miss most, are the basic AA guns.

[ran]

yes i would like to see a crew served 20mm gun

Well, I like any add-on, even new weps (although I don't really see the point for adding another assault rifle, an M249 would be great and I'd love to see an M-4 with LAM and Acog.

[Satchel]

The one gun i really don´t like to see is the OICW, bad enough almost every 2nd player uses it Ghost Recon, it´s the absolute Overkill-weapon there.
Doesn´t make much fun if you get sniped away by the OICW because of it´s outstanding optics, or catch 6 grenade rounds in quick succession, they better had left it outside, the only situation where you have an advantage to the OICW is CQB, but as this doesn´t normally take part.......

[Cane]

cool weapons

[The Jub-Jub Bird]

Lots of nice guns and weapons selected that I ould love to muck about with. But in my opinion I don't think BIS should make anything that doesn't fit into the 1985 campaign. I liked the new weapons from the weapon pack, but 2 weren't around in 1985 and 1 wasn't in use by either the US or USSR, so only one could fit into the camapaign (oh of course there is the H. grenade launchers too). I rekon we should have lots new weapons, for choice and such, but I think BIS should put thought into whether it fit first. I like the M249 for example, but it didn't enter production until 1990.

[the nutcracker]

Morters would be cool as well as usable artillery, like the stuff on everon, but with crew and stuff. Aswell as anti tank guns

[the nutcracker]

Morters would be cool as well as usable artillery, like the stuff on everon, but with crew and stuff. Aswell as anti tank guns

[Slick]

they should also make the scope for the m14 adjusteble
for windage & elevation.

A heavy wire guided anti tank weapon would be nice
and ofcourse mortars.

[9mm]

I could agree with ran and Pete when it comes to multiplayer aspect of OFP. But don't forget that OFP is great single player experience and here many assault riflles (even with basically the same characteristics) would play much gerater role than in multiplayer game.
So why M4 when we have m16 with m203?
Simply becouce most of special forces in the use that gun. Let's say we want to create a mission where Seal team attacks guerrillas' camp. M4 with M203 is a MUST for that kind of mission.
Why FN-FAL?
Simply becouse it's a Kalashnikov of free world!
However, the reason why i mentioned "Groza" is much more practical. Western forces have 3 scoped assault rifles, and Russians don't have any. Think that would improve even multiplayer games.

Sure I agree that OFP needs more heavy MGs and AT/AA guns or even large caliber sniper rifles, but I'm kind of assault weapons freak and that's my view.

[Rogue]

Here are the real tools of warfare- everyone is begging for and have those sleepness nightz about:
Dew the Dew Mountain Dew 12 oz. can Shotgun
http://www.birdman.org/images/DewGunLarge.jpg
In an attempt to once again remain the "Cutting Edge" weapons designer of the world, Birdman Weapons Systems now introduces the latest in shotgun technology. Our contract with Pepsi has now expired and we are legally able to sell out Mountain Dew ":Do The Dew" Street Sweeper type Shotgun to the general public!

This "Six Pack" model of the "Dew the Dew Mountain Dew 12 oz. can Shotgun Style delivery system allows the user to "rapid fire" 12. oz unopened Mountain cans at incredible velocities! This unit was used in the making of the many Mountain Dew commercials you see each day!

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Weight: 14.5 Lbs.
Size: 33.4" long (47" with stock)
Calibers: Will work with any 12 oz. Pepsi product.
Magazine Capacity: 6 pack and 12 pack models only
Colors: Unfinished Prototypes
Availability: Three Week Turnaround
Accessories: BWS Dedicated Laser Site / Hard Case / Manual / Video / Cleaning Kit
Operation: Rotating Shotgun Chamber
Accuracy: Deadly!

BWS Barrett M82B1-P
http://www.birdman.org/images/m82pistbig.jpg
BWS easily becomes the industry leader in "Front Door Target Acquisition" with the introduction of our Barrett Semi-auto .50 BMG modified weaponry. BWS selects only the finest of .50 BMG weaponry to mutate into our ENTRY line thus placing the user in complete control.

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BWS Barrett M82B1-P Information:

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Weight: 15.2 Lbs.
Size: 16.4" (including recoil tube)
Calibers: Currently available in .50BMG
20MM Models currently being tested
Magazine Capacity: 10 Round Box Magazine (one in chamber)
Colors: Black, Gray, Desert Camo, Desert Tan, Magenta
Availability: Three Week Turnaround
Accessories: BWS Dedicated Laser Site / Red Dote Scope /
Hard Case / Manual / Video / Cleaning Kit
Operation: Semi-Auto Blow Back
Accuracy: 3 MOA at 30 yards (Just come close!)

Jaded 0.50
http://www.birdman.org/images/jaded2.jpg
Birdman Weapons Systems refuses to be left out of the .50 BMG Home-built Single Shot .50 BMG Rifle Kit category with the introduction of our latest product, the JADED.50! With the ATF senselessly attacking many high-end .50 BMG kit manufacturers, "you better get JADED before you get RAIDED"! By the way ...We, at BWS, will stand behind our kits just as much as the ATF will stand behind the ones they confiscate!

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How does BWS fit in?

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Birdman Weapons Systems Barrett M82B1K-PDW .50 BMG Entry Weapon
http://www.birdman.org/images/m82b1kpdwbig.jpg
BWS once again demonstrates its market positional power with yet another .50 BMG Entry Line weapon. Birdman Weapons Systems commands the position of the industry leader in "Front Door Target Acquisition" with the introduction of our Barrett Semi-auto .50 BMG modified weaponry. BWS selects only the finest of .50 BMG weaponry to mutate into our ENTRY line thus placing the user in complete control.

The new Birdman Weapons Systems Barrett M82B1K-PDW .50 BMG Entry Weapon began life as a standard Barrett M82A1 .60 BMG sniper rifle. through a painstaking process of assembly and disassembly, our highly skilled technicians were able to drastically modify the standard rifle into a fully functional, double-hand-held Entry Weapon. Many improvements were added along the way such as a free-floating, independent and fully adjustable recoil spring tube, shortened, ported barrel, elongated sight rail and, of course, the "patented" BWS .50 BMG adjustable A#-style Stock. Add a new BWS M82B dedicated laser site and you are ready for ANY front door confrontation!

BWS Barrett M82B1K-PDW
Entry Weapon Information:

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Weight: 21.44 Lbs.
Size: 23.4" (Stock Fully Extended)
Calibers: Currently available in .50BMG
20MM Models currently being tested
Magazine Capacity: 10 Round Box Magazine (one in chamber)
Colors: Black, Gray, Desert Camo, Desert Tan, Magenta
Availability: Two WeekTurnaround
Accessories: BWS Dedicated Laser Site / Red Dote Scope /
Hard Case / Manual / Video / Cleaning Kit
Operation: Semi-Auto Blow Back
Accuracy: 1.8 MOA at 70 yards (Just come close!)

"Sure, it's all fun and games ...until someone loses a major metropolitan city."

[Denwad]

I want the ZPU-1, ZPU-2, ZPU-4, ZU-23 and the ZSU-57-2

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/index.html

[Shabadu]

I don't see why there isn't an SA80.

[Scooby]

I can clearly see it.

There is no point of adding worthless equipment to please some people who want to have eye candy in game untill they have made two existing sides at even somewhat acceptable condition.

[BaMBaM]

OK,sounds kewl,what about these...
GALIL SAR 5.56
NEGEV LMG 5.56
R4 7.62
SA80 5.56
Definitely a M249..maybe the SPW version (5.56)
FN MAG commonly known as a JIMPY(GPMG) 7.62
M4/M203+reflex sights
TAVOR 5.56
SAIGA 12 AUTO SHOTGUN W/box mags
HK G36 SHORT W/40mm GRENADE LAUNCHER
HK 4.5mm PDW
SIDE ARMS + KNIFE pleeeeeease !
SPUD GUN ?
MK 19 BELTFED 40mm NADER FOR THE HUMVEE
and while were at it may as well chuck in some cruise missiles.

[BaMBaM]

OOOH ALMOST 4GOT...CLAYS!!!!!! just love them mines

[Havelock]

I can see all the point in the world for adding further small arms, etc.

Firstly all comments are from the point of view of someone who plays single-player only. The lifeblood of single player gaming is interesting, well-written and VARIED scenarios.

Therefor the ability to vary nationality, army, etc with the use of accurately modelled and interesting uniforms, small-arms, armoured units, etc., can only add to the possibilities available.

Please note that, all that said, I would rather see fewer systems modelled well than many done badly. Can't have it both ways I suppose.

[Havelock]

Oh forgot to say ..... I loved the BIRDMAN stuff.
"Unpleasant products for an unpleasant world" indeed.

Almost tempted to use one of those stupid internet abbreviations (rofl or lol or whatever piece of illiteracy is being thought of next).


Not that tempted though.

[Supah]

Jub Jub bird man..... with all due respect why does it need to fit the campaigns time line if it isnt gonna be in the campaign? i never have and never will understand that reasoning.

[WebDog]

Some pistols, a glock or a desert eagle. As a last resort weapon. A third weapon. Also something like a knife...

[Diniter]

Rogue, my God that is funny.

[Joseph Stalin]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Aaron Kane on 3:07 am on Nov. 18, 2001
I agree, they all look great, especially the M4A1, which is my favorite gun http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

 However, I've never heard of the OC-14.  Can you post any info or links for this gun?
[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

Rifle my friend not gun!!! if you want a gun try a 150mm artillery piece, just friendly advice...... http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Rasa]

Artillery, please. Well, At least a real mortar, 81 mm or similar, as well as possibility for calling in artillery support from non-playable guns.

Rasa

[Gustav]

I want the M4 masterkey to the game

[mads bahrt]

Ppl seems to overlook the HK G3. I was actually one of the most widely used military assault rifles in 1985. I do agree though that work should focus on making more US/USSR weapons as they were in 1985. The last thing i want to see in the game is all the "miniguns with grenade launchers and shotgun" some ppl keep asking for. The ccol thing about the game is that it focuses more on the "regular grunt" side of the war than seen in any game before (maybe in NAM - but that game sucked). Since the game shoud focus on "regular warfare" (non-special) there is no reason for making handguns for the game. the sole purpose i would see for them would be as the single weapon of higher ranking officers. You would want the player to feel very fragile while beeing on the battlefield with nothing but his M16A1 for protection - not to feel godlike.

I would like to se this bug fixed:
The rear door of the M113 is portrayed in the wrong side when looking from witin the vehicle.

[Crazed Killa]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from mads bahrt on 4:56 pm on Nov. 20, 2001
Since the game shoud focus on "regular warfare" (non-special) there is no reason for making handguns for the game. the sole purpose i would see for them would  be as the single weapon of higher ranking officers.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

But what about the special ops soldiers adding a silenced handgun could come in very handy if you run outta 9mm bullets for your mp5-sd.

[Devastator75]

All I have to say is the M134 Mingun. If you don't know what it is look it up. You won't be disappointed.

[Renagade]

First off ill start with the simple,

A few more shotuns for the civilians maybe a side by sidewith the ability to load and fire both barrels at once,each mouse button fires a barrel, or a pump-action kind.

Artillery that could get towed on the back of towed on the back of vehicles or on fixed points and a mortar.
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A</a> british army unit,hey the UK guys always tag along when the US go off in military operations, and with them some guns like the sa80 or SLR.

[charles]

i want a real sniper rifle like M40A1, i am tired of that M21, give me a M82A1!

[the nothing]

Hmmmm... about Shotguns... how bout a Mossberg for civies... well maybe not... it's not a hunting rifle... a Benelli M3 for NATO... no, thats for Counter Terr. units... maybe a Saiga for Russia? Yeah, thats good! As for timelines.. who cares? The CAMPAIGN was set in 1985!

[the nothing]

Huh, about that OICW... i'd like it in! Gotta find a Russian equivalent for it though... which ain't likely...

[Cucuma]

M4 #### yah!

[Rogue]

OICW/ Minigun

[sn1per]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Rogue on 2:03 pm on Dec. 13, 2001
OICW/ Minigun[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
+portable nuke launcher and laser rifle.

Ok, then back to this world....

Russian AN-94 Abakan would be great, sadly it does not fit into the timeline.
Maybe:

MG42 for resistance
Mortar (real thing, not rifle grenades)
Shovel/bayonet for close combat

[Erex]

What about G-3, is widely used in "free world" as opositon to AK.
And i pray for handguns, just as backup when i run out of ammo (maby just with 1 magazine).

[Captain Kickass]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from 9mm on 3:50 am on Nov. 18, 2001
Grooza is  a new russian assault rifle
Check this site (http://world.guns.ru/assault/as09-e.htm) for more info on that gun.

C'mon people, what abaut your ideas?
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     It looks like a British made L85A1 bullpup. Compare them. Not really a difference is there?

(Edited by Captain Kickass at 7:36 pm on Dec. 13, 2001)

[Cucuma]

Check out the thread "Stories" to find some good stuff. Funny stories. Good times. Whatever. Post it. And see what happens.

[King Kong]

The only weapon i would love to see in ofp is the H&K G3A3 or M24 (the M21 is a wee bit outdated don't you think?)

[Crispy129]

I would like to see the oicw which HK only did PART of(they did do an excellent job on it as always though)! It would be fairly difficult if you wished to gte it realistic and do it any justice, unlike delta force landwarrior. You have to have a laser range finder on the scope, an IR scope, the air bursting controls(there are quite a few of them, which I could help anyone with), and no-recoil caseless rounds, otherwise you would do it no justice and people would never get a good picture of actually how good an OICW is, and have all of the russian buttholes still thinking their AK is better.


Thanks,
Crispy

[Mister Frag]

The OICW is not recoilless, it fires standard 5.56mm rounds.

You are thinking of the caseless G11, which is still not recoilless, but has such as high cyclic rate (2000 RPM) in burst mode that the last round of the burst leaves the barrel before the recoil impulse is felt.