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KriegMarine
Nov 18 2001, 13:19
Is it just me, or do the tracers look more like laser beams? We'll when they acctualy work that is.

Cane
Nov 18 2001, 13:20
be happoy that we've got such a cool feature

KriegMarine
Nov 18 2001, 13:29
Im happy, Im a happy person. You see this face? This is a happy face (Exit Wounds for you dumb people). But Of course Im happy. It just think that tracers can be fixed

Cucuma
Dec 26 2001, 21:21
yeah they look f*cked up like something from Star Wars or somthin!

Thehamster
Dec 26 2001, 21:32
Tracers are quite funny at night you get your very own laser quest games going.

I think they look sort of cool at night In quite a large fight say about 12+ squads each per side of men.

PV
Dec 26 2001, 23:04
Has any game ever done tracers right? We need a reference http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Dec 27 2001, 14:14
IL-2 has really realistic and kick ass tracer (every three bullets) It's a flight sim though...

Damage Inc
Dec 27 2001, 15:39
If you don't like the tracers, turn them off.

Black Hawk Down
Dec 27 2001, 18:39
DamageInc has made a good point (maybe without knowing it) http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

I'm in the Irish Army Ranger Wing (ARW),
and we NEVER, EVER use tracer rounds, because we believe it is more advatageous to the enemy rather then us, because it allows them to find where we are shooting from (duh).

However, when I was in the regulars, (for 2 + 1/2 yrs) we used tracer rnds all d time, mainly one tracer every 3 or 5 bullets, depending on whether the weapon had a "Burst" mode or only "Auto".

The tracers DO suck though, they should wobble the further they fly.

madmike
Dec 27 2001, 23:40
Has anyone seen tracers of 1 in 1, they look like unbroken laser beams. They are better than any fireworks or laser show I have ever seen

Captain Kickass
Dec 28 2001, 00:06
What we need is that flash that you see when you fire the gun. I don't really give a S*IT about the tracers!

Crispy129
Dec 28 2001, 03:12
those tracers are realistic, that is what real ones look like. I do wish that only one out of every 3-10 shots was aa tracer instead of every shot being one(I'm not sure I may be mistaken).


Crispy

Hindhunter
Dec 28 2001, 11:45
Tracers look really cool at night, they almost look like laserbeams because the light exposed to the eye receptors expires slower than the bullet travels.

FCATrooper
Dec 28 2001, 18:25
BHD,seriously,not to be a d**k
head or anything,but how does someone in the ARW find the time to post on this forum every day

The Jub Jub Bird
Dec 28 2001, 19:10
I have a picture here of real tracer fire during a night time fire fight. Unfortunatly this forum doesn't support attachments...so you'll have to take my word for it...unless someone else can host it somewhere and put it up for me...

The Jub-Jub Bird

PV
Dec 28 2001, 19:21
I have fired tracers at night, and have seen it from the side. They do look like long laser beams, except you'll notice thme deflecting off into the sky or or to the side if you are firing into woods or into fields with lots of objects. I think I have a video of it from a 1/4 angle. ill see if i can find it.

FCATrooper
Dec 28 2001, 19:47
i dont think the gunfire in OFP is meant to be tracer,its just meant to show you where your rounds are goin. real tracer glows,so if it IS meant to be tracer then its not very good.
what would be good tho,was if you could have the option to load up tracer on the gear screen.
and when tracer is used in AAA,i think its every 7th round.

Scooby
Dec 28 2001, 21:59
First time I got to see tracers I was correcting fire of my friend who was firing LMG. I just amazingly stared at how rounds bounced and forgot what I was supposed to do http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Satchel
Dec 28 2001, 22:21
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I have fired tracers at night, and have seen it from the side. ***They do look like long laser beams, ***except you'll notice thme deflecting off into the sky or or to the side if you are firing into woods or into fields with lots of objects. I think I have a video of it from a 1/4 angle. ill see if i can find it.
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It´s an optical illusion that you see tracers as a continuous stream at night, as your eye takes longer to react to sudden lighting conditions and contrast changes. You can try it with a sparkler in the dark; move it rapidly up and down - it will look like stream....you can actually paint numbers or alphabets with it in the air. Now try the same thing at daylight conditions, doesn´t work.
Same thing goes for vehicle lights in motion that blend you for a split second- they appear to "smear".
In daylight conditions tracers look like very short light ***streams, or no stream at all but like glow that travels very fast.


(Edited by Satchel at 2:29 am on Dec. 29, 2001)

The Jub Jub Bird
Dec 29 2001, 13:59
I want to post my picture here to show people what it really looks like so people can make more educated opinions as to whether OFP tracers are realistic or not.

It's an excellent picture looking over a valley during desert storm with bullets flying around everywhere...looks like some quasar battle all focused on this road running through the middle (or more likely someone on the road).

Can anyone host it for me so I can link it please?

Scooby
Dec 29 2001, 14:21
I'll post couple of pictures taken on a longer, whatever that is in english. Just to show how bullets flight paths can go.

http://www.mil.fi/kuvia/galleria-yo/kuvaa/yov0022.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/kuvia/galleria-yo/kuvaa/yov0014.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/kuvia/galleria-yo/kuvaa/yov0011.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/kuvia/galleria-yo/kuvaa/yov0007.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/kuvia/galleria-yo/kuvaa/yov0006.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/kuvia/galleria-yo/kuvaa/yov0023.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/kuvia/galleria-yo/kuvaa/yov0029.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/kuvia/galleria-yo/kuvaa/yov0032.jpg

The Jub Jub Bird
Dec 29 2001, 15:25
Yeah, my picture looks like that one three pictures down...only better.

Satchel
Dec 29 2001, 15:43
Nice pics,
but they give a wrong impression on how tracerfire actually looks from the firers position, or when seen live.
The pictures make believe that you will see tracer as a line from the muzzle break to the target impact point- which couldn´t be more wrong, because the tracer is nothing other than a bullet with phosphor attached to the rear which travels downrange, there is no other lightsource that shines out of the gunbarrel illuminating the whole flightpath of the bullet.
You will never see a continuous line (laser), but more very short lines or streams.
They don´t look like lasers we got in OFP, my bet is that BIS took photos as reference instead of doing proper research on tracer fire, or visiting the shooting range, that is why they got them wrong.

The Jub Jub Bird
Dec 29 2001, 16:35
The picture I have is taken from just above a machine gunner, so you see the spread of he 'full metal jacket', but since its from a still camera the shutter causes the picture to look like the laser fire in the pictures above.

Soon2B 2nd LT
Dec 29 2001, 16:55
Yeah the laser effect is do to camera shutter speeds. Didn't the final night battle in the movie "Platoon" have some good tracers flying around? If any of you want a reference you might want to check that.

PV
Dec 29 2001, 17:07
how about this?

http://1919a4.com/gca/kcr-nightshoot-first20sec.mpg